THE FEMALE SWIM TEAM AT STANFORD IS COMING FORWARD AND TALK ABOUT
ñ TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED WITH
BROCK TURNER.
BROCK TURNER WAS THE FORMER STANFORD SWIMMER WHO WAS
CAUGHT RAPING A WOMAN WHO WAS UNCONSCIOUS BEHIND THE DUMPSTER.
HE WAS SENTENCED TO A MEASLY SIX MONTHS IN JAIL, NOT PRISON,
AND AS A RESULT OF THAT STORY MADE INTERNATIONAL HEADLINES.
NOW THE WOMEN OF THE SWIM TEAM DEAL CAPITAL, FORWARD AND
TALKING ABOUT THEIR OWN EXPERIENCES, AND THEY SPOKE TO
INTOUCH.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THEY ARE STILL GOING TO
STANFORD, AND ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY SAY, THE UNIVERSITY TRIED
TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO NOT SPEAK OUT, SO THEY DID NOT REVEAL
THEIR IDENTITY BUT WE DO KNOW THEY ARE PART OF THE SWIM TEAM.
ONE OF THE SWIMMERS SAID, "BROCK'S ARREST WASN'T
SURPRISING TO ANYONE ON THE TEAM."
"FROM THE BEGINNING, THE WOMEN SWIMMERS HAD FOUND HIM TO
BE VERY, VERY ODD.
BROCK WOULD MAKE, TO THE WOMEN SUCH AS, I CAN SEE YOUR
KIDS IN THAT SWIMSUIT."
THE SOURCE SAID SOME MEMBERS OF THE WOMEN'S SWIM TEAM
CONSIDERED WRITING LETTERS TO THE JUDGE DESCRIBING THEIR
UNEASE WITH TURNER, BUT THOSE STATEMENTS WERE NEVER FILED.
THEY ARE SAYING THEY WERE FILED BECAUSE THE UNIVERSITY
ENCOURAGED THEM NOT TO DO SO.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CHARACTER LETTERS, PEOPLE
WRITE IN TO THE JUDGE BEFORE THE SENTENCE.
DOZENS OF BROCK TURNER'S FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS WROTE
GLOWING LETTERS ABOUT HIM, AND THAT MIGHT HAVE INFLUENCED
THE JUDGES DECISION.
BUT THESE FEMALE SWIMMERS WERE DISCOURAGED FROM DOING SO.
SHE ALSO SAYS, "THERE WERE RUMBLINGS OF THE WOMEN WERE
PRESSURED BY STANFORD OFFICIALS TO NOT DO IT SINCE THEY HAD
NOT WITNESSED ANY CRIME THAT BROCK HAD COMMITTED."
THAT IS THE REASONING STANFORD ALLEGEDLY USED.
YOU DIDN'T SEE HIM RAPE SOMEONE, SO EVEN IF HE SEXUALLY HARASSED
YOU IN ANY WAY, DOESN'T MATTER DON'T WRITE THESE LETTERS.
39.
39 IS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO CAME OUT AND SPOKE ON
BEHALF OF BROCK TURNER.
39 DIFFERENT LETTERS WERE REVIEWED BY THE JUDGE
BEFORE HE GAVE THAT LENIENT SENTENCE.
I CAN'T, LIKE, I CAN'T HELP BUT FEEL LIKE STANFORD, AS THE
INSTITUTION, IF THIS IS TRUE, IS ALMOST ñ IS DEFINITELY SO
RESPONSIBLE.
I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'S MORE WOMEN IN THE U.S.
THAT GO TO COLLEGE RIGHT NOW.
WE SHOULD BE OUTRAGED.
PEOPLE SHOULD BE OUTRAGED BECAUSE THESE CASES KEEP
POPPING UP ON VARIOUS COLLEGE CAMPUSES AND IT SEEMS LIKE
EITHER THE ADMINISTRATION AT THESE ADVERSITIES ARE SO
AFRAID ABOUT THEIR REPUTATION THAT THEY JUST WANT TO
BRUSH IT UNDER THE RUG AND NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
EVERY ALLEGATION OF SEXUAL ASSAULT OR RAPE IS MET WITH
HUGE SKEPTICISM, AND THAT DETERS A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM COMING
FORWARD AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY'VE EXPERIENCED.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S THIS WEIRD EPIDEMIC OF FEMALE COLLEGE
STUDENTS LYING ABOUT GETTING RAPED ON CAMPUS.
HOW RIDICULOUS IS THAT?
IF WE ACTUALLY GENUINELY CARE ABOUT CREATING A SAFE
ENVIRONMENT FOR STUDENTS ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES THROUGHOUT
THE COUNTRY, WE NEED TO TAKE THESE ALLEGATIONS SERIOUSLY.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE ACCUSES SOMEONE OF
RAPE THAT YOU IMMEDIATELY TAKE THAT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH
AND THEN YOU GO AHEAD AND KICK SOMEONE OUT OF THE SCHOOL.
NO, I DON'T WANT KNEE-JERK REACTIONS.
I'M SAYING THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A SYSTEM IN PLACE THAT
FULLY INVESTIGATES ALLEGATIONS AND THEN FIGURES OUT WHAT
REALLY WENT ON.
AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING SOMEONE IS GUILTY AS SOON AS THEY ARE
ACCUSED, BUT THE FACT THAT THESE SCHOOLS REFUSE TO DO PROPER
INVESTIGATIONS ñ AND THEY EVEN GO FURTHER, THEY DETER AND
DISCOURAGE STUDENTS FROM COMING FORWARD ñ IT'S CRAZY TO ME.
I AGREE WITH ALMOST EVERYTHING YOU ARE SAYING.
I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT FOR BOTH OF US, I WANT TO
BELIEVE THIS ACCOUNT FROM THE SOURCE.
THE UNNAMED SOURCE.
I UNDERSTAND SHE'S IN SCHOOL RIGHT NOW SO THERE'S A
REASON NOT TO GIVE HER NAME.
HOWEVER, IF THIS IS PERHAPS IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM
FABRICATED, IT WOULD NOT BE THE FIRST STORY BY INTOUCH THAT I
HAVE READ, AS A BIG FAN OF THE BACHELOR, THAT HAS BEEN
FABRICATED.
I BELIEVE THIS IS PROBABLY TRUE, BECAUSE FROM ALL ACCOUNTS THAT
HAVE BEEN VERY MUCH CORROBORATED AND BY NAMED PEOPLE, BROCK
TURNER IS A HUGE PIECE OF ñ WELL, HE'S A SKINNY PIECE OF
SHIT, BUT HE'S A PIECE OF SHIT, AND I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY
WORTH LOOKING INTO IT AS IF IT'S TRUE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHO
THIS SOURCES.
I'VE JUST BEEN BURNED BY INTOUCH BEFORE, SO I'M HESITANT ñ
I FEEL YOU, AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU GUYS THERE ARE
USUALLY A FEW STRIKES IN AN ARTICLE THAT WILL ñ
THAT WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE ASTERIX THAT THIS IS A
LITTLE FISHY, AND IT SEEMS ALL TOO EASY ñ
RIGHT, SOMETIMES YOU GET A GUT FEELING THAT SOMETHING
DOESN'T QUITE MAKE SENSE.
1ST STRIKE IS WHEN THEY DON'T NAME THE SOURCE, SECOND
STRIKE IS WHAT IT'S FROM A PUBLICATION LIKE INTOUCH.
BUT SOMETIMES INTOUCH DOES GREAT WORK.
IT'S UNNAMED SOURCE, BUT THE GUY HAS ALREADY BEEN CONVICTED
OF RAPE.
THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY IS THAT THERE ARE THEN VERY
REPUTABLE NEWS SOURCES LIKE ROLLING STONE THAT WRITE
PIECES LIKE THE ñ
VIRGINIA ñ
THE VIRGINIA UNIVERSITY ñ UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA
STUDENT WHO WENT BY JACKIE AND SHE PUT ME FABRICATED HER STORY,
AND THEY DIDN'T CROSS-REFERENCE OR TALK TO OTHER SOURCES.
SO YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL AND DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE REGARDLESS.
BUT I THINK BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT BROCK TURNER SO FAR ñ
WE KNOW HE RAPED SOMEONE, HE WAS CONVICTED.
WE KNOW HE RAPE SOMEONE, SO WE KNOW HE'S A HUGE PIECE OF SHIT.
WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING NOW IS WHETHER THE SENTENCE WAS TOO
LENIENT, AND I THINK IT'S BEEN TALKED UP AND DOWN OVER AND OVER
AGAIN FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, RIGHTFULLY SO BY THE
WAY, THAT THE SENTENCING WAS TOO LENIENT, AND THE FACT THAT
A LOT OF OUTLETS DIDN'T FEATURE HIS MUG SHOT BECAUSE THE
POLICE WOULDN'T RELEASE IT.
THE FACT THAT HE WAS VIEWED AS THE STANFORD STAR SWIMMER, THE
BEAUTIFUL WHITE BLONDE MALE WHO WAS A GREAT STUDENT.
THEY ARE ALMOST AS RESPONSIBLE AS STANFORD, IF THIS STORY IS
TRUE, THAT THEY STOPPED STUDENTS FROM COMING OUT AND SPEAKING
AGAINST BROCK TURNER AND A WAY TO EXPLAIN ñ
GIVE MORE BACKGROUND DETAIL ON HIS CHARACTER.
AND JUST PART OF A LARGER ISSUE THAT YOU WERE TALKING
ABOUT BEFORE ANA, WHERE COLLEGES CAN'T DISCOURAGE STUDENTS FROM
COMING FORWARD, THEY NEED TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO
FEEL COMFORTABLE IF THEY'VE HAD AN EXPERIENCE, IF THEY'RE BEING
HARASSED OR ASSAULTED.
COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES ALL ACROSS AMERICA NEED TO WORK TO
HAVE SOME SORT OF A SYSTEM IN PLACE SO THAT STUDENTS FEEL
SAFE, THAT THEY COME ñ THAT THEY CAN COME FORWARD AND FEEL
LIKE THEY ARE GOING TO BE HEARD, AND THAT THESE CASES WILL
BE INVESTIGATED, AND THAT THEY MATTER.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE ISSUE IS, STUDENTS ARE BEING
ASSAULTED AND STUDENTS ARE HAVING THESE EXPERIENCES AND
THEY ARE NOT BEING VALIDATED.
PEOPLE ARE JUST WRITING IT OFF, KIDS DO THAT WHEN THEY DRINK.
NO, IT'S NOT ABOUT SEXUAL PROMISCUITY LIKE THE
SURVIVOR SAID IN HER LETTER.
IT'S ABOUT SEXUAL ASSAULT, AND COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES CAN'T
DANCE AROUND IT ANYMORE.
I'M GLAD THIS CASE HAS BEEN SUCH A HEADLINE BECAUSE WE'RE
FINALLY TALKING ABOUT IT IN A MEANINGFUL WAY.