Sadhguru: How come you came alive just now?
What happened yesterday (Laughter)?
Kangana Ranaut: Sadhguruji, (Sadhguru laughs), congratulations, congratulations for super
success of the Rally of, for Rally for Cauvery and…
Sadhguru: Than…
Thanks to you and many many other people who supported this and made this happen.
Thanks for your contribution and also the… inspiring all your fans to be supportive.
Kangana Ranaut: Sadhguruji I want to, I’ve seen a lot of videos and pictures of yours,
you’re just riding through the rain, through the heat, through the, through hundred miles
and you’re, you’re camping, you’re in the tents, so you’re sleeping in the rain,
how, how do you manage to do this?
And what drives you to do this?
Sadhguru: Ah…
I (Laughs) I, I you know like… like (Laughs) I am on mercury diet ah that’s why I am
like this.
Kangana Ranaut: (Laughs) You’re, you’re you’re eating mercury with your food?
Sadhguru: Ahh… in a way (Laughter).
Kangana Ranaut: I, we we we really need to give one caution alert here that please guys
do not try mercury diet to be like Sadhguruji, because I, I assume there is a way of consuming
it.
I, I really want to ask you a question which is maybe I’ve, I never understood it or
not got it right but everything that I’ve learned from you about spirituality and being
in a, you know being just what is, like whether you’ve taught me Shambhavi or Samyama or
whatever practice you’ve done is everything emphasizes on just just making… it is just
being with what it is you know, like making peace with what is, but now…
Sadhguru: No, no, no, no, no, no, you just making peace with things ah…?
Kangana Ranaut: No, but you let me finish please.
Sadhguru: (Laughs)
Kanagana Ranaut: So Sadhguruji you’ve you know, we’ve seen how people are consuming
resources and how irresponsible they are with and of course the disasters are hitting us.
Don’t you think it is in their karma to be now paying for what they’ve done to our
earth and isn’t it her way of taking back what is essentially hers?
But here you jump to their rescue, to save them from from what they should be anyway
going through, I mean I don’t get it, why is that?
This, this whatever disaster that what Cauvery has depleted and what we’re facing is our
own doing, whether it is plastic in the sewer, whether it is the air pollution, it is the,
it is the reaction to what we have done.
So it is the time for us to pay but when, why are you trying to save us from this?
Where you say that humans are the biggest nuisance on this planet?
Sadhguru: (Laughs) I didn’t say that (Laughs).
Kangana Ranaut: You, you said that.
You said that humans… if there is only a problem it is humans, and I do agree with
you.
Sadhguru: Yes, I said there’s only one problem, human beings.
Kangana Ranaut: Yeah.
Sadhguru: That’s all
Kanagana Ranaut: Yeah.
So why are you trying to save us (Laughs)?
Sadhguru: (Laughs) See, you just used the word karma.
The word karma (Laughs)… karma means responsibility okay?
Never use the word karma and responsibility with reference to somebody else.
These are words you use only with reference to yourself.
You say my karma, my responsibility, you never talk about somebody else’s karma.
There is a wonderful saying in Kannada which says (Speaks in Kannada – not transcribed)
what it means is whatever evil things that somebody may do, by just talking about it
it’ll become yours.
So you never ever refer to other people’s karma, you only talk about your karma.
Right now this is our karma.
All we’re trying to do is our karma because in our lives if we do not do what we cannot
do that’s not a issue, but if we do not do what we can do, we are disaster.
So for me, for myself, for yourself, for everybody else on the planet right now I don’t want
this generation to go down as a disastrous generation.
I want to make sure that this is a responsible generation, this is a generation which will
do everything that it can do.
That’s every important for me.
Kangana Ranaut: Okay and and there is tremendous…
Sadhguru: Hey, what are all these love signs floating on your face huh?
What’s happening huh?
Kangana Ranaut: That’s people love me.
Of course it’s obvious (Laughter).
You can see that.
Sadhguruji also I want to know are you happy with the response?
Are you content with the response or we, we need to…
I mean it’s nothing in the scheme of things what you’ve planned is a humongous task.
We’ve you know together gathered millions of trees but still we have a long way to go.
In twelve years’ plan that you’ve established how should we like, I was not there in the
rally with you and I wanted to be there and may be in coming year I could participate
in that journey with you, but how… going forward what should we do?
Sadhguru: See, right now for just fourteen days or fifteen days of the rally started,
now we have, if we ah…we are still working on the numbers, I think we have crossed five-crore
trees right now in fifteen days’ time or nearly that number, somewhere around that.
So we will know the number by today evening when we get to Coimbatore.
In that event also people are making contributions.
Well, five-crores is not a big number compared to the goals that we have, but in fifteen
days’ time this is a phenomenal number.
Kangana Ranaut: Yes.
Sadhguru: Now what is it that each citizen or each individual can do?
I was just enquiring in Chennai and I found out that many beggars in Chennai earn three
and half to four lakhs per year.
So now I’ve told the volunteers to make all these beggars who are earning enough,
the rich beggars in Chennai city (Laughs) – I am sure the Mumbai beggars are even
richer – I’ve made this and we will get this commitment from them, all these beggars
will be contributing one sapling per week.
So if a beggar on the street who sits there and begs, he is doing one sapling per week,
everybody else should decide what they should do because I am not that kind of a person
who takes the liberty with anybody and says “You spend your money like this,” that’s
not for me to say, I think that’s too gross for me to say, I will never say that.
So as human beings, as humanity because what I am telling you is the nation, we’re killing
the nation.
This may sound too dramatic but let me explain, when you kill the soil, which we have killed
in many ways.
Not totally dead, but rapidly moving in this direction that forty-two percent of Tamil
Nadu for example has been declared fallow, seventeen percent of Karnataka has been declared
fallow.
This number gets worse as you get north actually.
So most fertile land in the world we have made it like this and 47,000 farmers have
committed suicide in Cauvery belt in the last twelve, fifteen years’ time.
Over three lakh people have committed suicide in the last twenty years in the whole country.
So if this doesn’t move you, I think you don’t have a heart, you have a stone for
a heart.
If you have a beating heart the… if you want to qualify for the term human this is
my definition of human, if you want to qualify for the term human, you must be concerned
about every life, otherwise you may be able to do something, you may not be able to do
something but you must be concerned.
So this is all I am asking, every human being wherever they are they must be concerned…
Kanagana Ranaut: So is this, is this the essence of spirituality that we should be more concerned
about each other.
Is that what…
Sadhguru: No, that’s not the…
Kangana Ranaut: That’s not the essence of it.
Sadhguru: That is not the essence of spirituality.
I am just saying if you want to qualify as a human being, if you qualify as a human being
then we can talk about spirituality.
If you don’t even qualify as a human being, how to talk to you about spirituality?
Kangana Ranaut: Okay that makes sense (Laughter).
Sadhguru: Did I ever not make sense to you huh… what is this (Laughter)?
Kanagana Ranaut: No you’ve always made sense to me Sadhguruji and that’s why I am an
ardent follower of yours and you’ve never left any question of mine unanswered and you’ve
always given me hundred percent satisfying answers and solutions and a path to follow
and I will always be grateful to you, and I will soon see you in Kashi and I am so looking
forward to that trip with you where we are going to go and discover hidden energy points
in that amazing city (Sadhguru laughs).
So that I, I look forward to that, (Overlapping conversation) and I am so sorry, I am so sorry
about the Insta today because I am a technically challenged person.
I never use these things and I am so sorry.
Sadhguru: Low tech, low tech, low tech (Laughter).
Kangana Ranaut: Low tech, I am so sorry about that.
But it was wonderful, wonderful speaking to you Sadhguruji.
Sadhguru: Okay, thank you very much.
Kangana Ranaut: Thank you, Thank you.