COOK SWUNG BACK BIG SHOW.
STILL NO SETH WITH THE GRUESOME
WING OF FORT UNIVERSITY OF IDAHO
STUDENTS WHO WERE STABBED IN
THEIR SLEEP.
ALSO ON FRIDAY INVESTORS TO THE
CRIME SCENE, LEAVING WITH BAGS
OF EVIDENCE RAISING MANY
QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE THIS
INVESTIGATION STANDS NEARLY TWO
WEEKS LATER.
FORMER FBI ASSISTANT DIRECTOR
CHRIS WALKER EXPLAINING HOW
IMPORTANT THE EVIDENCE
COLLECTORS ARE IN SOLVING THIS
CASE.
>> IT MAY HAVE BROUGHT A
SPECIALIST ON THE SCENE FOR
EXAMPLE SEROLOGY OR HAIRS AND
FIBERS JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE
IS NOTHING THAT WAS UNCOLLECTED.
THE EVIDENCE IS ONLY AS GOOD AS
THE COLLECTOR OF THE EVIDENCE
FOR THE EXPERTISE OF THE
COLLECTOR.
>> PUBLIC POLICE HAVE SAID IT
WAS A TARGETED ATTACK BUT WHAT
REVEALED WHO WAS SPECIFICALLY
TARGETED?
LEAVING MANY CAN CONFUSE
INTEREST INCLUDING STEVE THE
FATHER ONE OF THE VICTIMS.
>> DO YOU KNOW OF POLICE
BELIEVED A ONE PERSON BUT IN
THIS ARE ALL FOR QUESTION.
>> HAVE BEEN TOLD IT’S ONE.
IT’S LIKE PURPOSELY VAGUE I AM
HOPING.
BUT IT CONFUSES EVERYONE.
BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THAT
REALLY MEANS OTHER THAN MAYBE
SOMEBODY HAD A DIFFERENT KIND OF
ATTACK FOOTPRINT?
>> CHARLIE, I’VE GOT TO BE
HONEST FOR YOU HAVE KIDS, I HAVE
KIDS.
I’M NOT SURE I WOULD SEND MY KID
BACK THERE.
>> CAN YOU IMAGINE?
QUICK SUSPECT ON THE LOOSE THEY
DON’T HAVE ANY DEFINITIVE LEAVES
OR AT LEAST NOT SHARING THEM.
IN A PLACE LIKE THAT COULD BE SO
ISOLATED IF YOU’RE OFF-CAMPUS
I’M SORRY I’M THINKING TO
TRANSFORM DOING REMOTE LEARNING
WHICH THE UNIVERSITY’S DOING
RIGHT NOW.
>> CAN YOU IMAGINE A KID
ENROLLED IN THE PLACE HAVING TO
FACE THIS IS IF THEY DO NOT HAVE
ENOUGH PROBLEMS IN THEIR LIFE
ANYWAY GOING BACK TO SITUATION
LIKE THIS.
I WAS REALLY STRUCK BY THE
FATHER’S COMMENT ABOUT PURPOSELY
VAGUE.
YOU HOPE MAYBE THE POLICE YOU
PRAY THE POLICE NO MORE THAN
THEY ARE SHARING.
CLEARLY THEY DO NO MORE THAN
THEY ARE SHARING.
AND YOU HOPE THAT THEY ARE
INDEED BEING PURPOSEFULLY VAGUE
TO HOPEFULLY KEEP WHOEVER IT IS
THEY HAVE IN THEIR CROSSHAIRS ON
AWARE THEY ARE ON TO THEM.
BUT IT IS SUCH A GRUESOME THING.
THE THING THAT PUZZLES ME IS
THAT IT IS SUCH -- MAKE THE
MANNER IN WHICH THESE KIDS WERE
MURDERED IS SUCH AN INTIMATE
WAY.
IT’S DONE IN SUCH AN INTIMATE
MANNER THAT YOU WOULD THINK IT
WAS SOMEBODY THAT KNEW SOMEBODY.
THAT THE PERPETRATOR KNEW THE
VICTIMS.
BUT THEN IT RAISES THE QUESTION,
HOW DOES SOMEONE LIKE THIS AND
MANAGED TO KILL FOUR PEOPLE?
IT IS APPALLING.
>> RIGHT YOU THINK AFTER THE
FIRST VICTIM WAS ATTACKED
OBVIOUSLY THERE BE SOMETHING
THAT WASTES THE OTHER FOLKS UP
TO EITHER GET OUT OF THERE OR
ATTACK.
>> THE AMOUNT OF HATRED REQUIRED
TO DO THIS TO ONE PERSON.
HOW DOES A PERSON HAVE THAT KIND
OF HATRED IN THEIR HEART FOR
FOUR PEOPLE?
>> LET’S HEAR FROM JAMES HE IS A
RETIRED FBI CRIMINAL PROFILER.
HE ANALYZES WHO THE KILLER COULD
BE AND THE LEVEL OF
SOPHISTICATION TO CHARLIE’S
POINT, BEHIND IT.
>> WOUNDING WITH AN EYE FOR
KILLING WITH A KNIFE AS A WHOLE
DIFFERENT SET OF PHYSICAL AND
EMOTIONAL REACTIONS.
IN TIME SET BY FOUR AS WE HAVE
IN THIS CASE, HOW HE GOT INTO
THE SCENE, HOW HE PERHAPS
PRE-OFFENSE BEHAVIOR WAS HOW HE
EXPLORED PERHAPS THE INTERIOR OF
THE APARTMENT OR HAD SCHEMATICS
ABOUT OARS ACTUALLY IN THERE AT
OTHER TIMES.
THE POST OFFENSE BEHAVIOR
GETTING AWAY WITH THIS CRIME.
HE APPARENTLY LEFT NO
FINGERPRINTS BEHIND, NO BLOOD ON
HIS PART.
AND NOTE DNA.
THERE IS SOME SOPHISTICATION
BEFORE AND AFTER THE CRIME EVEN
IF THE VIOLENT CRIME ITSELF
LACKS SOME OF IT THERE IN.
>> JACKIE THAT IS WORTH
REPEATING THE KILLER APPARENTLY
LEFT NO FINGERPRINTS BEHIND, NO
BLOOD, NO DNA.
HE SOMEHOW KILLED FOUR PEOPLE
NOT WITH A GUN WHICH CAN BE DONE
FAIRLY QUICKLY.
BUT WITH A KNIFE.
THIS THING IS SO CRAZY, SO
DISTURBING.
THE THING IS IT FEELS LIKE WERE
NOT EVEN CLOSE TO FINDING OUT
WHO DID THIS FOR.
>> IS ACTUALLY THINKING THE DNA
ASPECT OF THIS TO BE FASCINATING
I WOULD CRACK THIS CASE OPEN.
AND PROBABLY PRETTY QUICKLY BY
THE FACT THIS PERSON WAS
EXPERIENCED ENOUGH NOT TO LEAVE
FINGERPRINTS OR AT LEAST WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT HAVING THE SKILL
AND PICKING UP THE EVIDENCE, AT
LEAST TO OUR KNOWLEDGE.
LEAVING A NOTE DNA BEHIND.
THERE IS EVIDENCE THESE VICTIMS
WERE DEFENSIVE IN SOME WAY THERE
WERE SOME DEFENSIVE WOUNDS THEY
DID FIGHT BACK.
I WONDERED TO MYSELF AS POSSIBLE
SOMEBODY DID NOT HAVE ANY DNA
FIBERS UNDER THEIR NAILS OR
HOWEVER THEY DID TRY TO FIGHT
BACK.
IT SEEMS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO ME
BUT THAT’S FOR THE SKILL LEVEL
COMES IN YOU SAY IT WAS THIS A
TEAM WHO KNEW WHAT THEY’RE DOING
ON TOP OF THAT MY UNDERSTANDING
IS THAT MORNING BEFORE THE
AUTHORITIES CAME, THAT WAS A
CRIME SCENE.
OTHER PEOPLE ARE ENTERING THAT
CRIME SCENE.
IT WAS NOT COMPLETELY INTACT BY
THE TIME THEY GOT THERE.
THESE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
BUT IMAGINE FOR PARENTS OF
CHILDREN THAT GO TO NOT ONLY
THIS UNIVERSITY OR OTHER
UNIVERSITIES AS WELL.
THIS IS A TERRIFYING BEHAVIOR IT
IS REALLY SCARY SO MUCH TIME HAS
PASSED WITHOUT ANY LEAD BEING
RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC AT THIS
POINT.
>> I’VE SEEN OTHER REPORTS THAT
APPARENTLY WAS SLOPPY.
THE MORE INFORMATION WE FIND OUT
THE MORE CONTRADICTIONS AND
CONFLICTING INFORMATION SEEMS TO
BE OUT THERE HOW DO YOU NOT
LEAVE DNA BEHIND WITH DIFFERENT
VICTIMS?
IF SOME OF THE VICTIMS WE HEARD
HAD DEFENSIVE LOANS YOU HAVE TO
IMAGINE THEY SCREAMED.
HOW DID THE VICTIMS NOT HEAR
THAT?
AND HOW DID TWO PEOPLE IN THE
HOUSE SEPARATELY NOT WAKE UP
DURING ALL OF THIS?
I’M SORRY BEEN IN COLLEGE SORRY
MOM DEVON TRUMP TURNED DRUNK AS
A SKUNK YOU THINK YOU WOULD
STILL WAKE UP IF YOU HEAR THIS
GOING ON FOR THIS TO DIFFERENT
FLOORS THIS TOOK PLACE IN
DIFFERENT ROOMS.
IT IS HARD TO IMAGINE SOMEONE
COULD GET IN, NOT WAKE ANYONE UP
AND COMMIT FOR MURDERS IN THE
HOUSE OF THAT TIME SPAN.
NONE OF THIS IT MAKES SENSE
WHATSOEVER I MAKE GUN OWNER
THINK EVERY AMERICAN THAT LIVES
IN THE STATE WHERE THEY CAN OWN
A GUN, YOU SHOULD.
I’VE GOT TO TELL YOU SHOWING UP
TO MY APARTMENT IS GOING TO GO
DOWN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
I THINK EVERY AMERICAN DESERVES