>> THAT DOES IT FOR US HOW THE JACKSON STARTS RIGHT NOW.
>> WE'RE COMING ON THE AIR
WITH UKRAINE'S CAPITAL STILL
VERY MUCH UNDER THREAT IN THIS
WAR. THAT'S THE WORD FROM THE
PENTAGON. EVEN THOUGH RUSSIA
SAYS IT'S PULLING BACK FROM
KIEV UP AHEAD, WHETHER US
THANKS, HOOTEN IS BEING LIED
TO BY HIS OWN ADVISORS. AND A
LOOK AT MY CONVERSATION WITH
THE PARENTS OF MARINE TRAPPED
IN RUSSIA HERE IN DC TO TRY TO
CONVINCE THE PRESIDENT TO MEET
THEIR MESSAGE AS THEY FIGHT TO
GET THEIR SON HOME. PLUS THE
WEATHER IS GOING FROM BAD TO
WORSE DOWN SOUTH WITH A
TORNADO TOUCHING DOWN IN
ARKANSAS. GOT A LOOK AT WHO
ELSE IS IN THE STORM'S PATH
TONIGHT AND WITH HUNDREDS OF
AMERICANS DYING FROM
ACCIDENTAL SHOOTINGS. ONE
COMPANY IS TRYING TO MAKE A
SO-CALLED SMART GUY. WE'RE
GOING TO SHOW YOU THIS TECH
THAT'S BEEN YEARS IN THE
MAKING. IN TONIGHT'S ORIGINAL.
PLUS SOME NEW HOPE FOR
IMMIGRANTS TONIGHT WITH THE
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION.
ACCORDING TO SOURCES SET TO
END THE PANDEMIC POLICY THAT'S
KEPT PEOPLE SEEKING ASYLUM OUT
AND IT'S COMING JUST IN TIME
FOR SOME UKRAINIAN FAMILIES
COMING TO THE U.S. THE BAD
KIND. THE SCENES STORY OF HOW
NBC NEWS GOT AN EXCLUSIVE
CONVERSATION WITH ONE OF THOSE
FAMILIES IN TONIGHT'S BACK
STORY AND A STUNNING DIAGNOSIS
FOR ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS
ACTORS IN THE WORLD TO BE
HEARD ABOUT THIS. BRUCE WILLIS
STEPPING AWAY FROM ACTING
AFTER LEARNING HE HAS A
FACIAL. WE'RE TAKING A CLOSER LOOK AT THAT LATER ON IN THE
LOOK AT THAT LATER ON IN THE
SHOW. HEY, I'M HALLE.
>> AND A DAY AFTER THE U.S.
WAS SAYING, HEY, DON'T TRUST
RUSSIA BECAUSE THEY'RE LYING
ABOUT PULLING BACK FROM
UKRAINIAN CITIES. TURNS OUT
LOOKS LIKE THERE, RIGHT WITH
UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS REPORTING
DOZENS OF NEW ATTACKS NOW IN
KIEV AND LIKE WHAT YOU'RE
ABOUT TO SEE HERE AND SHARING
HE'S THE GOVERNOR OF THAT AREA
SAYS RUSSIA HAS SPENT HOURS
HOURS TODAY HITTING CIVILIAN
TARGETS AND THE PENTAGON
CALLING THIS SO NOT A
WITHDRAWAL. LISTEN.
>> IF THE RUSSIANS ARE SERIOUS
ABOUT DE-ESCALATING BECAUSE
THAT'S THEIR CLAIM HERE. THEN
THEY SHOULD SEND THEM HOME.
BUT THEY'RE NOT DOING AIR
STRIKES HAVE NOT STOPPED, NOT
AT ALL. SO KEITH, AS I SAID
YESTERDAY, STILL VERY MUCH
UNDER THREAT.
>> AND YOU KNOW WHO ELSE IS
APPARENTLY BEING LIED TO THIS
GUY. LATIMER PUT HIMSELF WITH
THE PENTAGON CONFIRMING THAT
THE U.S. THANKS. THE RUSSIAN
PRESIDENT'S GETTING BAD INFO
ABOUT THE WAR FROM HIS
ADVISORS. WHY? BECAUSE THEY'RE
WORRIED THAT PUTIN'S GOING
RETALIATE AGAINST THEM IF HE
FINDS OUT ABOUT THE POOR
PERFORMANCE OF HIS MILITARY.
AND AT THIS MOMENT OF
EXTRAORDINARY TENSION WITH
RUSSIA. NEW QUESTIONS NOW
ABOUT AMERICANS DETAINED THERE
LIKE WNBA SUPERSTAR BRITNEY
GRINER. AND LOOK, FORMER
MARINE TREVOR REED IN A
SECOND. WE'LL SHOW YOU MY
CONVERSATION WITH HIS PARENTS
WHO SPENT THEIR DAY TO DAY
OUTSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE HOPING
TO TALK WITH PRESIDENT BIDEN
ABOUT THEIR SON WHO IS ON A
HUNGER STRIKE IN A RUSSIAN
PRISON. BUT I WANT TO GET
RIGHT TO ALI AROUZI IN LVIV
UKRAINE TO ALLIE, YOU'VE GOT
TO STOP UKRAINIAN GENERAL
SAYING SOME RUSSIAN UNITS ARE
MOVING AWAY FROM KIEV AWAY
FROM SHARON EVE. BUT THE
SITUATION, THE E SEEMS TO BE
MAYBE GETTING WORSE BECAUSE OF
THAT. TALK US THROUGH WHAT'S
HAPPENING ON THE GROUND.
>> HI, HOW THEY THAT'S RIGHT.
WELL, FIRST, DOESN'T LOOK LIKE
THAT MAKING ANY DRAMATIC
WITHDRAWALS AROUND. KYIV MAY
BE VERY SMALL DEPLOYMENTS OF
TROOPS POSSIBLY ON A ROTATION
JUST TO GET A REST BECAUSE A
LOT OF THOSE GUYS BEING HERE
FIGHTING FOR OVER A MONTH AND
THEY'VE BEEN GETTING BATTERED.
BUT AS YOU POINTED OUT, THE
FOCUS MAY SHIFT TO THE TO THE
DONBASS REGION WHICH THEY'VE
BEEN SAYING THAT THEY WERE NOW
EMPHASIZE OF THEIR ATTACKS ON.
AND JUST NOW, WE HEARD FROM
PRESIDENT ZELENSKY SAYING THAT
THE THIS COUNTRY IS PREPARING
TO SEEN. LARGE TROOP MOVEMENTS
OF RUSSIANS HEADING TO THE
DONBASS AREA. SO THAT'S
PROBABLY GOING TO BE A SHIFT.
THE FOCUS IS GOING TO SEE A
LOT MORE SHELLING AND MISS
ISLAND IN THAT AREA FOR THE
RUSSIANS TO TRY TAKE CONTROL
OF. BUT EVEN IN THE NORTH OF
THE COUNTRY. I MEAN, THEY'VE
THERE THAT POUNDING CHURN AND
EVERY DAY. LAST NIGHT THEY
SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO
LEAVE THE CHAIR IN A THEY
DIDN'T LEAVE THE CHAIRMAN
AREA. THEY JUST SENT MORE
MISSILES INTO THAT PLACE.
THEY'RE TRYING TO AND
CIRCULATE AND PER-SHARE.
SHARES A BORDER WITH RUSSIA
AND BELARUS. SO THEY THEIR
PROPERTY. AND FOR A REALLY
HARD TIME IN THE COMING DAYS
AND WEEKS. YOU ALSO HAVE THE
DIPLOMATIC EFFORT OR AT LEAST
THE BEAST. THE RESUPPLY
EFFORT, IF YOU WILL, FROM THE
U.S. TO UKRAINE WITH PRESIDENT
BIDEN TALKING WITH.
>> PRESIDENT ZELENSKY OF
UKRAINE FOR ALMOST AN HOUR
TODAY, RIGHT ABOUT THIS IDEA
OF HANDING OVER ANOTHER HALF
BILLION DOLLARS IN MONEY AND
AID MONEY THAT WOULD GO
DIRECTLY TO UKRAINIANS. WHEN
YOU TALK TO PEOPLE ON THE
GROUND RIGHT NOW. HOW PLUGGED
INTO WHAT THEY ARE AND ARE NOT
GETTING FROM THE WEST. ARE
THEY.
>> THEIR EXTRAORDINARY
PLUGGED. AND AS I MENTIONED,
ZELENSKY JUST PUT OUT A VIDEO
ADDRESS A FEW MINUTES BEFORE
WE CAME ON AIR AND I'M SURE
OLDER UKRAINIANS ARE WATCHING
THAT. THEY'RE LISTENING VERY
CLOSELY TO EVERYTHING HE HAS
TO SAY. AND YOU HEAR THEM
REITERATE EVERYTHING HE SAYS
TO THE U.S. PRESIDENT TO NATO
THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED OUR
SPACE BECAUSE WE NEED THOSE AS
300 OF DEFENSIVE SYSTEMS. WE
NEED THOSE THAT ARE THAT ARE
IN POLAND. WE NEED TO TANKS TO
BE GIVEN TO US AND THEY
REITERATE EXACTLY WHAT
SUNDANCE KID SAYS. THIS
PRESIDENT SAID THAT SAID THOSE
DOES TIME SAID GIVING JUST
WHAT WE'RE WILLING TO PAY FOR
THEM. SO THE EXTREMELY PLUGGED
INTO WHAT THIS EVENT'S GUEST
THE SAME TIME YOU HAVE A LOT
OF THE PEOPLE YOU SPOKE TO
HERE. THEY THEY TELL ME THAT
THEY DIDN'T VOTE FOR LANSKY.
THE FIRST TIME THEY DIDN'T
TAKE HIM SERIOUSLY AS AN
ACTOR, BUT NOW HE'S A NATIONAL
HERO TO THEM. I MAY HANG ON
EVERY WORD THAT HE SAYS. SO
THEY'RE VERY, VERY IN WITH
EVERYTHING HE HAS TO SAY AND
THAT'S WHERE THEY GET A LOT OF
THEIR INFORMATION FROM AT THIS
MOMENT. EXTRAORDINARY TENSION.
RIGHT BETWEEN THE U.S. AND
RUSSIA. YOU HAVE THE SPOTLIGHT
NOW BEING PUT ON AMERICANS WHO
ARE DETAINED IN THAT COUNTRY.
>> A COUPLE OF HOURS AGO. NOT
EVEN I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO
TALK WITH THE PARENTS OF
TREVOR THEY WANT TO MEETING
WITH PRESIDENT BIDEN THERE
HERE IN WASHINGTON. THEY WERE
DEMONSTRATING OUTSIDE THE
WHITE HOUSE TODAY. THEY WANT
TO TRY TO GET THEIR SON HOME.
AND I TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT
THEY'D LIKE TO ASK THE
PRESIDENT. TAKE A LISTEN.
>> WE BELIEVE THAT THIS
ADMINISTRATION TO START
SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING A TRADE
FOR THESE AMERICANS AND GET
THEM OUT OF THERE BEFORE THEY
EITHER DIE FROM THE HORRID
CONDITIONS OR THEY HAVE
ADDITIONAL CHARGES PUT ON THEM
AND THEY'RE THERE FOREVER. AND
THAT WILL BE YOUR DIRECT ASKED
PRESIDENT BIDEN IF AND WHEN
YOU MEET WITH SOME OF THE AND
NOT JUST FOR FOR TREVOR AND
PAUL AND BRITNEY. BUT 50 OTHER
FAMILIES THAT HAVE OF LOVED
ONES BEING HELD OVERSEAS IN
OTHER COUNTRIES WHO ALSO HAVE
PRISONERS. THEY WANT BACK.
>> PAULA REID, THEY'RE TRYING
TO WNBA STAR BRITTNEY GRINER,
OF COURSE, AND THE DETAINED
AMERICAN PAUL WHELAN, WHO HAS
BEEN ACCUSED BY RUSSIA OF
SPYING. YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS
CLEARLY CUP PRESIDENT BIDEN'S
ATTENTION BECAUSE YOU
REFERENCE THIS TODAY SAYING HE
KNOWS THEY'RE IN TOWN LOOKING
TO TRY TO HAVE A MEETING WITH
THEM SOMETIME VERY SOON IN THE
NEXT MAYBE DAY OR SO. IT IS
YET ANOTHER SORT OF LAYER ON
TOP OF THESE DISCUSSIONS AT
THE U.S. IS IS HAVING IS
THINKING ABOUT AS IT RELATES
TO RUSSIA.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. AND IT'S ALSO
STRAIGHT OUT OF AN
AUTHORITARIAN THEY WILL TAKE
PEOPLE IN THEIR COUNTRY THAT
ARE THAT THAT ARE HAVING
PROBLEMS WITH ANOTHER COUNTRY
AND THEY'LL PUT ON PRESSURE ON
THEM. THEY'LL PUT TRUMPED UP
CHARGES AGAINST THEM. USUALLY
THEY KEEP THEM IN TERRIBLE
CONDITIONS. THAT AND GET
MEDICAL ATTENTION THAT KEPT IN
SOLITARY CONFINEMENT UNTIL
THEY CAN EXTRACT SOMETHING
FROM THE COUNTRY THAT THEY'RE
AT WITH WHETHER IT'S, YOU
KNOW, MONEY OR OR OR A HIGH
VALUE ASSETS THAT'S BEEN TAKEN
AND HOW THE COUNTRY STRAIGHT
OUT OF AN AUTHORITARIAN
PLAYBOOK TO TRY AND GAIN
LEVERAGE AGAINST THE COUNTRY
THAT YOU'RE NOT GETTING ON
VERY WELL WITH.
>> ALI AROUZI LIVE FOR US IN
VALLEY. GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANK
YOU. BACK HERE AT HOME IN JUST
THE LAST HOUR WE LEARNED AT
LEAST 7 PEOPLE WERE HURT AFTER
A TORNADO RIPPED THROUGH A
TOWN IN NORTHWEST ARKANSAS.
CHECK THIS OUT ABOUT TO SEE
IT. IT'S FROM SPRINGDALE US.
LOOK AT THAT DRONE VIDEO. YOU
CAN SEE POWER LINES ARE DOWN
THE ROOF OF THAT AND THAT IS
TORN TO SHREDS. STORES ARE
DAMAGED PRETTY BADLY. LOOKS
LIKE THAT USED TO BE A BRIDGE.
THE CITY'S MAYOR SAYS A LOT OF
PEOPLE WERE FORCED OUT OF
THEIR HOUSES. THOUSANDS OF
THEM STILL DON'T HAVE POWER.
AND THIS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING
AT. THAT'S JUST A SNAPSHOT OF
THE KIND OF SEVERE WEATHER
WE'RE SEEING ALL ACROSS THE
COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. MORE THAN
29 MILLION OF US ARE IN THE
PATH OF POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS
THUNDERSTORMS WITH OUR WEATHER
TEAM MONITORING A STRING OF
THEM THREATENING CITIES LIKE
MEMPHIS, NASHVILLE,
BIRMINGHAM, ATLANTA JUST
TONIGHT IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS.
WANT TO BRING OUR OQUIRRH, HIS
BREAKING EVERYTHING DOWN FOR
US THIS TORNADO TOUCHDOWN
REPORT IN NORTHEAST LOUISIANA
THIS AFTERNOON HE'S COME IN.
YOU'VE GOT NEW ORLEANS, YOU'VE
GOT BATON ROUGE, BOTH OF THE
PATH OF SEVERE CONDITIONS
AFTER THEY'VE BEEN HIT BADLY
TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE
EXPECTING TO SEE TONIGHT.
>> YEAH. UNFORTUNATELY, ALI,
WHEN WE JOINED YOU, 24 HOURS
AGO WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT THIS
SCENARIO. UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS
COMING TO PASS IT. IN FACT,
YOU CAN SEE THIS AREA IN PINK
OUTLINE. THAT'S THE TORNADO
WATCH. BUT THESE AREAS IN RED
TO LIGHT. RIGHT. RIGHT ALONG
THE ILLINOIS BORDER ALSO ALONG
THE MISSOURI AND ARKANSAS
BORDERS AND COMING DOWN IN 2
PARTS MISSISSIPPI. WE ARE
LOOKING AT TORNADO WARNINGS
NOW FIRING UP AS THIS SYSTEM
MAKES ITS WAY TO THE EAST.
29 MILLION PEOPLE AT RISK
RIGHT NOW. WIDESPREAD DAMAGE
FROM WIND LIKELY STRONG
TORNADOES ARE LIKELY
ESPECIALLY THE SOUTHERN END OF
THIS SYSTEM. HAIL TO ONE INCH
OR MORE. THE STORM'S IMPACT
THERE COULD BE WIND GUSTS OF
80 MILES PER HOUR HALEIGH IN
THIS AREA. BLUE THAT INCLUDES
MEMPHIS HUNTSVILLE, BIRMINGHAM
HARRISBURG. NEW ORLEANS MOBILE
AND MONTGOMERY THIS DAMAGE
FROM THESE WINDS COULD EXTEND
HUNDREDS OF MILES AND
EXTENSIVE POWER OUTAGES
POSSIBLE. WE ARE LIKELY SEEING
E F 2 OR STRONGER TORNADOES
DEVELOPING IN THIS REGION
LONG-TRACK TORNADOES. AND
THESE WOULD BE APP INNING
TONIGHT AS WELL AS WE'VE
MENTIONED, NIGHTTIME NOCTURNAL
TORNADOES TWICE AS DEADLY AS
THEIR DAYTIME COUNTERPART AND
THE OTHER PROBLEM HAS BEEN
THESE ARE THE SAME AREAS THAT
GOT HIT LAST WEEK. LAST
TUESDAY WITH THOSE TORNADOES
AND THOSE SAYING SEVERE WIND.
SO THESE FOLKS HAVE ALREADY
BEEN TAKEN. THE BRUNT OF THIS.
THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE ON
THE WAY FOR TONIGHT. THE LINE
THAT WILL STRETCH FROM
CLEVELAND ALL THE WAY DOWN
INTO THE PANHANDLE. FLORIDA
MAKING ITS WAY TO THE EAST.
THE OHIO RIVER VALLEY INTO THE
GULF COAST TOMORROW. IT MAKES
ITS WAY ALONG THE EASTERN
SEABOARD FROM NEW YORK ALL THE
WAY DOWN TO TALLAHASSEE. WE'RE
TALKING 33 MILLION PEOPLE AT
RISK, ALI FOR DAMAGING WINDS,
HAIL AND TORNADOES POSSIBLE.
THEN IT PUSHES THROUGH. AND AS
IT DOES, WE LOOK FOR THAT
AFTERNOON RISK MAKING ITS WAY
THROUGH HERE. HEAVY IS THE
HEAVIEST RAIN IS GOING TO BE
SITUATED IN THE LOWER
MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY ALI,
WE'RE TALKING 3 INCHES OR
MORE. SO BESIDES THE WINDS
BESIDES TORNADOES. THERE COULD
ALSO BE FLASH FLOODING AS
WELL. AND LOT OF PEOPLE
GETTING READY FOR POTENTIALLY
SCARY NIGHT TONIGHT. AL, THANK
YOU FOR BEING ON TOP OF THAT.
LOOK FOR MORE FOR US TOMORROW
>> SO FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP
SEEMS TO BE AT IT AGAIN TODAY.
LEANING INTO HIS EXPLOSIVE
CALL FOR VLADIMIR PUTIN TO
RELEASE DIRT ON HUNTER BIDEN
IN A NEW STATEMENT JUST THIS
AFTERNOON SAYING RUSSIA IN
TIME MIGHT BE WILLING TO PLAY
BALL ON JUST THAT. THAT'S
AFTER HE MADE THAT REQUEST UP.
YOU GOT A TV SHOW YESTERDAY
AND NOW WE'RE GETTING NEW
REACTION TODAY FROM DEMOCRATS
LIKE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE CHAIR
ADAM SCHIFF. HE'S TELLING OUR
OWN GARRETT HAKE, THE FORMER
PRESIDENT IS IN THE
CONGRESSMAN'S WORDS
CONSISTENTLY IMMORAL AND
UNPATRIOTIC WAS. DONALD TRUMP.
>> CANNOT CHANGE HE CHANGE. HE
IS WHO HE IS. HE WILL ALWAYS
SEEK TO CHEAT. HE WILL ALWAYS
SEEM TO GET FOREIGN HELP.
>> SO WHAT EXACTLY IS THIS
DIRT AT THE FORMER PRESIDENT
WANTS VLADIMIR PUTIN TO HAND
OVER. IT HAS TO DO WITH
UNPROVEN CLAIMS OF PRESIDENT
BIDEN'S SON GOT 3 AND A HALF
MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE WIDOW
OF THE LATE MAYOR OF MOSCOW.
THERE'S NO PROOF THAT ACTUALLY
HAPPENED OR THAT THE KREMLIN
WOULD EVEN HAVE THAT
INFORMATION. HUNTER BIDEN'S
LEGAL TEAM TOLD NBC NEWS IN
2020, THE CLAIM HE WAS PAID
3.5 MILLION DOLLARS WAS FALSE.
GARRETT HAKE, WHO YOU JUST SAW
IN THAT INTERVIEW WITH ADAM
SCHIFF IS JOINING US NOW TO
TALK MORE ABOUT GARRETT, HELP
US UNDERSTAND IF YOU CAN. WHY
DONALD TRUMP IS RIGHT NOW AT
THIS VERY SENSITIVE DIPLOMATIC
MOMENT WITH PUTIN WHO IS
PERPETRATING A WAR IN UKRAINE
TUESDAY TO TRY TO INJECT
HIMSELF INTO THE CONVERSATION
THIS WAY.
>> IT'S ALWAYS DANGEROUS TO
TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE MIND OF
DONALD TRUMP ON SOME OF THESE
ISSUES. BUT HUNTER BIDEN AND
HIS LAPTOP HAVE TO BACK IN THE
NEWS RECENTLY AND MISTER TRUMP
AND A LOT OF FOLKS AROUND HIM
STILL REMAIN UPSET THAT THE
MEDIA, THE REST OF THE COUNTRY
DIDN'T TAKE THEIR CLAIMS ABOUT
HUNTER BIDEN SERIOUSLY IN THE
LEAD UP TO THE 2020 ELECTION.
AND SO HERE YOU HAVE A SERIES
YOU KNOW, LITTLE BITS OF NEWS
THAT HAVE COME OUT. HE GETS
ASKED IN AN INTERVIEW AND IT'S
AN OPPORTUNITY TO LINK
TOGETHER 2 OF THE TOPICS THAT
HE'S BEEN VERY FOCUSED ON
HUNTER BIDEN IN HIS VIEW THAT
THERE'S SOME KIND OF
CORRUPTION THERE AND THE
QUESTIONS THAT HAVE ALWAYS
SWIRLED AROUND TRUMP AND HIS
RELATIONSHIP WITH VLADIMIR
PUTIN IN A STATEMENT THAT HE
PUT OUT AFTER THE FACT TODAY
TRYING TO CLEAN THOSE THINGS
BUT THIS IS KIND OF PAR FOR
THE COURSE WHEN HE GETS HUNG
UP ON AN IDEA LIKE THIS. IT'S
GOING TO COME OUT IN ANY
CONTEXT REGARDLESS OF WHAT'S
GOING ON IN THE REST OF THE
WORLD. YOU MENTIONED HUNTER
BIDEN AND YOU KNOW, BACK IN
THE NEWS BASICALLY WITH SOME
HEADLINES OVER THE LAST COUPLE
WEEKS. TALK US THROUGH THIS
FEDERAL INVESTIGATION INTO
SOME OF.
>> HUNTER BIDEN'S BUSINESS
ACTIVITIES. IT'S STILL
HAPPENING. WHERE DOES THE
STATE? WE DON'T KNOW A LOT
ABOUT IT. ALI IS THE BOTTOM
LINE. THIS IS A DOJ
INVESTIGATION THAT COULD
INCLUDE THINGS LIKE TAX FRAUD.
IT COULD INCLUDE VARIOUS
ELEMENTS OF HUNTER BIDEN'S
BUSINESS DEALINGS EITHER IN
UKRAINE OR OTHER FOREIGN
COUNTRIES. IT DOVETAILS WITH
REPORTING THAT'S BEEN COMING
OUT RECENTLY FROM THE
WASHINGTON POST FROM CNN. AND
THE POST STORY TODAY TALKING
ABOUT THEIR EFFORTS TO VERIFY
ELEMENTS ON THAT LAPTOP. WE
FROM THE OUTSIDE. DON'T KNOW
WHICH OF THESE ARE GOING TO BE
PART OF THE DOJ INVESTIGATION
THAT WE DO KNOW IS HAPPENING
AND WHICH ARE JUST KIND OF
CHEST THAT HAS BEEN PUT OUT
HERE AND KIND OF THE POLITICAL
DISCUSSION ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN,
HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS
FATHER. IT FEELS LIKE PART OF
THE REASON, GARRETT. AND YOU
DID THE INTERVIEWS. YOU TELL
ME THAT WE SAW CONGRESSMAN
SCHIFF SO FAR ABOUT THIS
BECAUSE THIS ISN'T THE FIRST
TIME THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS
CALLED ON PUTIN.
>> TO TO LIKE DO SOMETHING TO
A POLITICAL RIVAL RIGHT IN
WHAT I THINK SOME POLITICAL
OBSERVERS SAW WAS ABSOLUTELY
EXTRAORDINARY MOMENT BACK IN
2016 WHEN THE FORMER PRESIDENT
THAT A CANDIDATE VERY
INFAMOUSLY SAID, YOU KNOW,
VLADIMIR PUTIN. IF YOU HAVE
INFO ON HILLARY CLINTON'S
HACKED EMAILS. YOU KNOW,
RUSSIA SHOULD RELEASE ITS A
LITTLE BIT OF
>> NOT ONLY IS IT DEJA VU OF
THAT INCIDENT FROM THE 2016
CAMPAIGN FOCUSING ON HILLARY
CLINTON, WHICH BY THE WAY, WE
DID LEARN AFTER THE FACT THAT
THE RUSSIANS DID START SOME OF
THEIR HACKING OPERATION ON
THAT VERY SAME DAY BUT THERE
WAS ALSO AN ENTIRE IMPEACHMENT
ABOUT THIS KIND OF THING BACK
IN 2019 WHEN IT WAS FLAT HERE
A LOT OF LYNSKEY WHO WE ALL
NOW THIS IS SORT OF HIS FIRST
MOMENT ON THE WORLD STAGE.
WHEN WE LEARNED THAT PRESIDENT
TRUMP HAD CALLED HIM ASKING
FOR INFORMATION ABOUT HUNTER
BIDEN IN EXCHANGE FOR SOME OF
THE VERY SAME MILITARY
EQUIPMENT THAT IS NOW PROVEN
CRITICAL TO THE DEFENSE OF
UKRAINE EVERYTHING OLD IS NEW
AGAIN. HERE, ALI. AND I THINK
THAT WAS SOME OF THE
FRUSTRATION FROM ADAM SCHIFF
WHO HAS THE LEAD IMPEACHMENT
MANAGER IN THAT IMPEACHMENT IN
2019 WAS TRYING TO MAKE
EXACTLY THE ARGUMENT THAT
DONALD TRUMP WOULD DO THIS
KIND OF THING. AGAIN. AND HERE
WE ARE.
>> IS THIS GETTING ANY
TRACTION WITH THE REPUBLICANS
ARE TALKING TO. THERE ARE NOT
SO MUCH.
>> NOT A LOT. I MEAN, THERE'S
THERE'S ALWAYS THE CASE IN THE
TRUMP YEARS. MOST OF THEM
PREFER NOT TO TALK ABOUT THIS
KIND OF THING TO GENERAL
REACTIONS. ONE FROM SOME
REPUBLICANS SAYING WE SHOULD
NOT BE ASKING COULDN'T FOR
ANYTHING RIGHT NOW. OTHER
SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE
CURIOUS ABOUT THIS HUNTER
BIDEN INVESTIGATION AND WE
WANT TO KNOW MORE. NOT A TON
OF TRACTION ON THIS. GARRETT
HAKE LIVE FOR US ON HEALTH
CARE. GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANKS
FOR BEING ON. CREATE IT.
>> OTHER BIG NEWS COMING OUT
OF WASHINGTON TODAY. JUDGE
KETANJI BROWN JACKSON WILL
HAVE AT LEAST ONE REPUBLICAN
ON HER SIDE WHEN HER
CONFIRMATION VOTE TO BECOME A
SUPREME COURT JUSTICE HAPPENS.
MAINE SENATOR SUSAN COLLINS
SAYING JUDGE JACKSON'S
EXPERIENCE AND CREDENTIALS
HAVE EARNED HER SUPPORT. SHE
IS THE ONLY REPUBLICAN SO FAR
THAT WE KNOW OF TO JOIN WHAT
WE EXPECT TO BE ALL DEMOCRATS
IN SUPPORTING JUDGE JACKSON
FOR THAT SUPREME COURT SLOT.
BUT YOU MADE THIS ANNOUNCEMENT
TODAY. SHE ALSO KIND OF TOOK A
DIG AT HER COLLEAGUES SAYING
THE SENATE'S ROLE IS IN HER
WORDS NOT TO ASSESS WHETHER A
NOMINEE REFLECTS THE IDEOLOGY
OF AN INDIVIDUAL SENATOR OR
WOULD RULE EXACTLY AS AN
INDIVIDUAL SENATOR WOULD WATE.
BUT MORE ABOUT WHETHER THEY
COULD BE RIGHT FOR THE COURT.
THE SENATE HOPES TO VOTE ON
JUDGE JACKSON'S CONFIRMATION
BY APRIL 8TH, YOU KNOW, BE
WATCHING THAT WHEN THAT
HAPPENS. NOT TOO LONG AGO.
ACTUALLY JUST A COUPLE HOURS
AGO, A JUDGE CONNECTICUT JUDGE
GUNN CONSPIRACY THEORIST ALEX
JONES IN CONTEMPT OF COURT.
WHY FOR NOT SHOWING UP FOR
DEPOSITIONS. 2 DAYS IN A ROW
LAST WEEK OVER THIS LAWSUIT
FILED BY SANDY HOOK FAMILIES
THAT MEANS STARTING THIS
FRIDAY. HE'S GOING TO BE FINED
$25,000 AND THAT NUMBER KEEPS
GOING UP FOR EVERY DAY. HE
DOES NOT SIT FOR A DEPOSITION.
JONES IS BEING SUED BY THESE
FAMILIES OVER HIS TOTALLY
FALSE. TOTALLY, TOTALLY MADE
UP CLAIMS THAT THE SHOOTING
THAT KILLED 21ST GRADERS WAS
A, QUOTE, GIANT HOAX.
OBVIOUSLY IT WAS NOT JONES.
TRY TO SETTLE WITH THE
FAMILIES JUST YESTERDAY BY
OFFERING THEM $120,000 EACH.
BUT. THEY REJECTED THAT PRETTY
QUICK. HIS EXCUSE FOR NOT
ATTENDING THE DEPOSITIONS.
LAST WEEK, JONES SAID HE WAS
FOLLOWING DOCTORS ORDERS
BECAUSE HE WASN'T FEELING VERY
WELL VERTIGO A SINUS
INFECTION. HE STILL TAPE TO
SHOW THE DAY AFTER HE WAS
SUPPOSED TO BE IN COURT,
THOUGH. KATE SNOW IS JOINING
US NOW ON THE STORY. KATE,
BRING US UP TO SPEED ON WHERE
THIS GOES FROM HERE. RIGHT.
BECAUSE THESE ARE THESE ARE SO
THIS IS BIG MONEY. THE JONES
IS GOING TO FACE FOR NOT
SHOWING UP FOR THE DEPOSITION
SANDY HOOK FAMILIES. THIS IS
VERY EMOTIONAL IMPORTANT TO
THEM.
>> YEAH. AND HOW YOU LAID IT
OUT THERE. SO THE JUDGE TODAY
IN THIS THIS HEARING THAT WAS
LESS THAN AN HOUR. IT WAS
VIRTUAL SHE WAS IMPATIENTLY TO
JONES'S ATTORNEY, BUT SHE WAS
CLEARLY FRUSTRATED AND SHE
BASICALLY SAID, LOOK, YOU HAVE
TRIED TO THE KIND OF PUT ONE
OVER ON THIS COURT. SHE SAID
IN HER WORDS, SHE WAS PUTTING
ALEX JONES ON NOTICE SAYING
THAT HE INTENTIONALLY FAILED
TO JUSTIFY WHY HE DIDN'T SHOW
UP LAST WEEK FOR THOSE
DEPOSITIONS THAT WAS SUPPOSED
TO BE ON WEDNESDAY. THEY
PUSHED TO THURSDAY BECAUSE HE
SAID HE WASN'T FEELING WELL.
HE DIDN'T SHOW UP THURSDAY
EITHER. HE WAS UNDER COURT
ORDER HALEIGH TO SHOW UP AND
HE DIDN'T. SO AGAIN, THIS IS
SOMETHING WHERE HE'S NOW GOING
TO FACE STARTING FRIDAY
$25,000 AND EACH DAY IT GOES
UP. EACH WORKDAY. IT GOES UP
ANOTHER 25,000. SO IF HE
DOESN'T SIT BY NEXT WEEK. YOU
KNOW, IT'S GOING TO START
ADDING UP 50,075 AND SO ON.
THE JUDGE BASICALLY SAID YOU
NEED TO DO THIS BEFORE APRIL
15TH HIS OWN LAWYER SAID,
WELL, HE'S REALLY BUSY NEXT
WEEK. MAYBE HE COULD SET THE
WEEK OF THE 11TH HALEIGH.
>> SO KATE, THE ONE OF THE
REASONS WHY THIS IS IS SO
IMPACTFUL FOR THESE FAMILIES
WHO ARE STILL GRIEVING THE
LOSS OF THEIR OF THEIR LOVED
ONES OF THEIR KIDS RIGHT IS
BECAUSE THEY SAY THEY'VE BEEN
HARASSED. SOME OF THEM SAY
THEY'VE GOTTEN DEATH THREATS
OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE OF THE
ABSOLUTELY CRAZY STUFF THAT
ALEX JONES I'M SHOCKED ABOUT
THE SHOOTING. YEAH.
>> YEAH. I KEPT IN TOUCH WITH
A LOT OF THOSE I WAS ACTUALLY
THERE ON THE DAY OF THE
SHOOTING ALMOST 10 YEARS AGO.
I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S BEEN THAT
LONG. BUT YEAH, HOLLY, YOU'RE
ABSOLUTELY IT HAD TO HIDE
THEIR ADDRESSES. THEY HAVE TO
BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT GOING ON
VACATION. NOW ONE FAMILY SAID
I THINK HE SAID THEY MOVED 10
TIMES BECAUSE THEIR ADDRESS
KEPT GETTING PUBLISHED BY
FOLKS ASSOCIATED WITH INFO
WARS. SO THAT IS AT THE HEART
OF THIS CLAIM. IT'S A
DEFAMATION SUIT THAT THESE
FAMILIES HAVE FILED IN
CONNECTICUT AND BY THE WAY,
THERE ARE OTHER SUITS IN TEXAS
FROM OTHER FAMILIES THAT WERE
FILED THERE THAT ARE SORT OF
THE SAME IDEA. SO BOTH OF
THESE CASES ARE SET TO HEAD
TOWARD TRIAL AS EARLY AS THIS
SUMMER IN CONNECTICUT. THE
JUDGE SAID TODAY SHE BASICALLY
SAID, LOOK, IF YOU THINK WE'RE
MOVING THIS CASE WE'RE NOT.
WE'RE STARTING IN AUGUST. SO
IF YOU DON'T GET THE
DEPOSITION DONE. THERE MIGHT
BE OTHER REPERCUSSIONS FOR
ALEX JONES AND HIS DEFENSE IF
THEY DON'T MOVE QUICKLY TO GET
THE DEPOSITION. DON. WE
MENTIONED HOW JONES IS SAID,
OKAY. YEAH, THE SINUS
INFECTION, ETCETERA. BUT THEN
HE WAS YOU KNOW, DOCTORS HAD
SAID THIS WAS PRETTY SERIOUS
STUFF. ACCORDING TO JONES'S
ATTORNEYS.
>> HE STILL TAPED THE SHOW,
RIGHT. LIKE HE STILL SHOWED UP
TO DO THAT AND THEN YOU HAVE
THE THE FAMILIES ARE SAYING,
YOU KNOW, WE ACTUALLY WANT HIM
ARRESTED. WHAT IS THAT GOING
TO HAPPEN. IT'S I MEAN, THE
JUDGE DIDN'T DO THAT TODAY.
BUT LIKE THAT. AND IT'S STILL
ON THE TABLE.
>> YEAH. BY THE WAY, ALEX
JONES WAS ON THE AIR AGAIN
THIS MORNING AND THE JUDGE
CRITICIZED THE DOCTOR'S NOTE
THAT WAS WRITTEN LAST WEEK.
IT'S UNCLEAR. LOOK, HE'S HE'S
HIS ATTORNEYS ARE ARGUING THAT
HE DOES HAVE ONGOING HEALTH
ISSUES AND THAT THERE SHOULD
BE SOME LENIENCY HERE.
OBVIOUSLY TODAY THE JUDGE DID
NOT DECIDE TO GO WITH
ARRESTING HIM FAVORING THE THE
FINES THAT WE'VE LAID OUT. BUT
I THINK EVERYTHING'S ON THE
TABLE IF HE DOESN'T SET.
>> FOR A DEPOSITION SOON. HOW
THIS. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S
EVERYWHERE TODAY.
>> HE IS STEPPING AWAY FROM
ACTING AFTER BEING DIAGNOSED
WITH A FACE IF YOU'RE NOT
FAMILIAR WITH US, IT'S A
CONDITION THAT AFFECTS THE
BRAIN AND CAN ROB A PERSON OF
THEIR ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE,
TO SPEAK TO WRITE TO
UNDERSTAND LANGUAGE. WELL, AS
HIS DAUGHTER RUMER ANNOUNCED
THIS NEWS ON INSTAGRAM SAYING
THAT THE FHA HAS AFFECTED HER
DAD'S COGNITIVE ABILITIES. BUT
SHE ADDED, AS BRUCE ALWAYS
SAYS LIVE IT UP AND TOGETHER.
WE PLAN TO DO JUST THAT. YOU
KNOW, LIVING IT UP AS AS HE'S
DONE IN HIS CAREER. HE'S THE
AND YET THE BIG STAR BEHIND
MOVIES LIKE THE 6TH SENSE PULP
FICTION. AND OF COURSE, IS THE
DETECTIVE JOHN MCCLANE IN THE
DIE HARD SERIES WHOSE MOST
FAMOUS QUOTE, IT'S NOT
SOMETHING I CAN SAY ON TV, NOT
EVEN ON STREAMING. WE BRING IN
DOCTOR JOHN TORRES WHO IS WITH
US NOW. BRUCE WILLIS WAS IN A
BUNCH OF MOVIES LIKE HE'S GOT
MORE STUFF COMING OUT THIS
FEELS I THINK LOT A LITTLE BIT
SUDDEN. TALK TO US ABOUT THIS
CONDITION. WHAT?
>> IS IT HOW QUICKLY CAN IT
CAN IT COME ON.
>> AND HOW WE LIKE YOU
MENTIONED THERE. APHASIA IS A
COMMUNICATION ISSUE WHERE YOU
HAVE PROBLEMS UNDERSTANDING
WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE SAYING
TRYING TO COMMUNICATE TO YOUR
YOU HAVE PROBLEMS
COMMUNICATING WITH OTHER
PEOPLE. YOU SOMETIMES CAN FORM
THE WORDS BUT YOU CAN'T GET
THEM OUT. YOU CAN'T GET THEM
THAT PERSON OR SOMETIMES IT'S
A COMBINATION OF THE 2. IT CAN
ACTUALLY HAPPEN IN 2 DIFFERENT
AREAS. ONE IS THE ACUTE PHASE
MEANING IT HAPPENS WITHIN A
COUPLE MINUTES OR A FEW HOURS
AND THAT YOU SEE FROM BRAIN
DAMAGE BECAUSE OF A STROKE OR
SEVERE HEAD INJURY. THOSE
TYPES OF CONDITIONS. THEN
THERE'S THE SLOW TYPE OF
APHASIA MORE PROGRESSIVE
APHASIA AND THAT CAN BE FROM
INFECTIONS THAT DEGENERATIVE
PROCESS THINK TO MENTION WHEN
I MENTION THAT OR TUMORS TO
GROW AND SLOWLY GIVE YOU THAT
INABILITY TO COMMUNICATE. BUT
THEY MENTION HERE, YOU KNOW,
IT CAN BE A COGNITIVE ISSUE,
MEANING HE COULD BE HAVING A
DIMENSION TYPE ISSUES THAT'S
CAUSING ATROPHY OF THE BRAIN
WHICH CAN CAUSE THIS TYPE OF
CONDITION AS WELL AS APHASIA
AND OBVIOUSLY BEING AN ACTOR
COMMUNICATION IS A BIG DEAL.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE
WORD IS GETTING OUT. HIS
DAUGHTER'S PUTTING THE WORD
OUT THERE AND TRYING TO HELP
PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS IS BEST
AS POSSIBLE. THAT'S RIGHT. I
MEAN SPEECH AND COMMUNICATION
IS SO IMPORTANT TO WHAT BRUCE
WILLIS DIES IS IT RECOVERABLE.
DOCTOR JOHN, LIKE.
>> IS IT POSSIBLE THAT DOWN
THE ROAD. WE COULD SEE BRUCE
WILLIS AND AGAIN KNOWING
YOU'RE NOT HIS DOCTOR,
OBVIOUSLY. RIGHT. WE ONLY KNOW
WHAT WE HEARD FROM HIS
DAUGHTER. BUT AS A POSSIBLE WE
COULD SEE HIM RECOVER FROM
THIS AND GET BACK ON THE STAGE
AND BACK ON THE SCREEN.
>> YOU KNOW, IT'S POSSIBLE,
BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING
TO SEE BRUCE WILSON WE SAW 10
YEARS AGO OR EVEN 5 YEARS AGO
BECAUSE THE WAY YOU RECOVER
FROM THIS IS THROUGH THERAPY.
THERE'S NO CURE FOR IT, BUT
IT'S BASICALLY SPEECH TYPE
THERAPY RECOVER FROM. AND THAT
HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE THE STROKE
TYPE WITH A TYPE FROM A BRAIN
INJURY THAT COULD HAPPEN
FAIRLY RAPIDLY AND YOU CAN
GAIN SOME OF THAT, IF NOT ALL
THE FUNCTION BACK, BUT IT'S
MORE OF A PROGRESSIVE ONE
WHICH IS SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S
WHAT BRUCE WILLIS HAS,
ESPECIALLY ITS ASSOCIATE WITH
THE COGNITIVE ISSUES SHE'S
TALKING ABOUT THE DIMENSION
TYPE ISSUES THAN THAT TENDS TO
PROGRESS. THERE'S NO CURE FOR
IT. BUT YOU CAN IMPROVE THINGS
TO A CERTAIN EXTENT BUT NOT
NEARLY TO THE EXTENT IT WAS
BEFORE. SO YOU COULD GO BACK
TO ACTING. DEFINITELY BECAUSE
OF THE WAY THEY PUT THOSE
PIECES TOGETHER, YOU MIGHT BE
ABLE TO DO SOMETHING ON A
LIMITED BASIS BUT PROBABLY NOT
LIKE HE WAS DOING. LIKE I
MENTIONED, 5 OR 10 YEARS AGO.
ALI DOCTOR JOHN TORRES, THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING US
THAT PERSPECTIVE AND THAT
EXPERTISE. APPRECIATE IT.
>> IS FACEBOOK PAYING A
REPUBLICAN FROM TO TRY TO TAKE
DOWN TIKTOK. WELL, THAT'S
EXACTLY WHAT A NEW REPORT SAYS
AND THEY GOT THE RECEIPTS ARE
GOING TO TALK ABOUT MORE ON
WHAT WE KNOW AFTER THE BREAK.
AND TURBOTAX SUED OVER ITS ADS
BY THE SEC SAYS THE COMPANY'S
QUOTE, UNQUOTE FREE SOFTWARE
IS ACTUALLY A BAIT AND SWITCH.
THAT'S NEXT. IN THE 5 THINGS.
♪
>> THESE DAYS. IT FEELS LIKE
THIS SOCIAL ON SOCIAL SCHEME
INVOLVING THE PARENT COMPANY
OF FACEBOOK META AND THIS
WASHINGTON POST REPORTING THAT
THE COMPANY IS PAYING A
REPUBLICAN FROM TO BASICALLY
DIG UP DIRT OR TRY TO SPREAD
BAD INFO ABOUT COMPETITOR
TIKTOK THE POST HAS BEEN
WORKING WITH TARGETED VICTORY
THIS GOP FROM TO SHOW IN THEIR
VIEW THAT TIKTOK A HUGE DANGER
FOR KIDS. ONE CAMPAIGN
DIRECTOR SAY TO QUOTE DREAM
WOULD BE TO GET STORIES WITH
HEADLINES LIKE FROM DANCES TO
DANGER. THERE'S MORE. THEY'RE
ASKING LOCAL REPORTERS TO PUSH
ANTI TIKTOK STORIES PUTTING
LETTERS TO THE EDITOR AND SOME
OF THESE REGIONAL OUTLETS. ONE
RAN IN THE DENVER POST FROM A,
QUOTE, NEW PARENTS SAYING MANY
PEOPLE SUSPECT CHINA IS
DELIBERATELY COLLECTING
BEHAVIORAL DATA ON OUR KIDS.
ADDING WE SHOULD ALL BE
ALARMED LAST YEAR. FACEBOOK
RESEARCHERS SAY TEENS ARE
SPENDING 2 TO 3 TIMES MORE
TIME ON TIKTOK AND INSTAGRAM
AND FACEBOOK'S POPULARITY
AMONG THE USE AMONG THE YOUNG
PEOPLE HAS PLUMMETED. CNBC'S
JULIA BOORSTIN JOINS ME NOW ON
THIS STORY.
>> SO, YOU KNOW, I LIVE IN
WASHINGTON. I COVER WASHINGTON
POLITICS. I GOT USED TO SEEING
OPPO, RIGHT. UNLIKE OPPO
RESEARCH ON CANDIDATES.
>> IT'S INTERESTING HERE TO
SEE A TECH COMPANY. IT SEEMS
DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR AND
PARTICULARLY TECH COMPANY THAT
HAS BEEN PLAGUED BY
MISINFORMATION ALL OVER ITS
PLATFORM NOW TRYING TO SPREAD
INFORMATION ABOUT A
COMPETITOR.
>> WELL, WHAT FACEBOOK AND THE
FIRM THAT THEY WERE WORKING
WITH WOULD SAY IS THAT THIS
WAS NOT MISINFORMATION. THEY
WERE SPREADING. BUT THEN THEY
WERE DOING WHAT WAS NECESSARY
TRAILER THE PUBLIC TO ALERT
THE MEDIA OF SOME CHALLENGES
THAT THE RIVAL. I DO HAVE TO
MENTION A QUOTE, TWEET FROM
THE HEAD OF THE PR FIRM THAT
THEY WERE WORKING WITH. HE
SAYS TODAY'S WASHINGTON POST
STORY NOT ONLY MISS
CHARACTERIZE THE WORK WE DO.
BUT KEY POINTS ARE SIMPLY
FALLS. WE TRIED TO REACH OUT
TO THE WASHINGTON POST, A
FURTHER TALK THROUGH THEM BUT
NEVER GOT A RESPONSE AND HE
TALKS ABOUT THESE CONCERNS. SO
SOME COURSE THE PR WORTH
NOTING THAT THEY ARE DENYING
THAT ANYTHING THEY DID WASN'T
TOWARD.
>> THIS SEEMS TO BE STEMMING
TO AND YOU COVER BUSINESS.
JULIA. SO WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE
YOU ON THIS ON THE BUSINESS OF
SOCIAL MEDIA BECAUSE TIKTOK IS
HUMUNGOUS. IT'S THE MOST
DOWNLOADED APP IN THE WORLD
RIGHT. SECOND INSTAGRAM. LOOK,
YOU HAVE TO WONDER, I MEAN, AT
LEAST I WONDER HOW MUCH DOES
THE BUSINESS COMPETITION PEACE
PLAY INTO WHY MEADOW WAS SO IS
BEING SO AGGRESSIVE ON THIS
FRONT.
>> I THINK IT TOTALLY PLAYS
INTO IT. I MEAN, YOU HAVE
INSTAGRAM, WHICH THOUGH VERY
POPULAR IS FACING GROWING
COMPETITION AND OVER AGAIN.
FACEBOOK HAS BEEN STRUGGLING,
ESPECIALLY WITH THOSE YOUNGER
USERS. AND A LOT OF THAT IS
BECAUSE OF THE SUCCESS OF
TIKTOK. THE OTHER KEY THING
THAT TIKTOK IS IT'S OWNED BY A
CHINESE COMPANY HAS ALL THE
TECH GIANTS FACE INCREASED
REGULATION, INCREASED SCRUTINY
IN WASHINGTON. THEY ALL POINT
TO THE FACT THAT, HEY, YOU'RE
GOING TO BE DISADVANTAGE IN
THE U.S. BASED COMPANIES. IF
YOU DON'T APPLY THE SAME RULES
TO THE CHINESE BASED COMPANIES
SUCH AS TIKTOK WHO KNOWS WHAT
KIND OF DATA THEY'RE
COLLECTING AND CENTER. THERE'S
BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION
ABOUT THAT. AND OF COURSE,
TIKTOK HAS DEFENDED ITSELF.
BUT THERE IS THIS BIG THIS BIG
RED FLAG THAT'S GONE UP ABOUT
THE PARENT COMPANY OF TIKTOK
BEING BASED IN CHINA. YOU READ
THE STATEMENT FROM TARGETED
VICTORY. LET ME READ WHAT WE
HEARD FROM ED A SPOKESPERSON
THE WASHINGTON POST DEFENDING
THIS CAMPAIGN SAYING WE
BELIEVE ALL PLATFORMS,
INCLUDING TIKTOK SHOULD FACE A
LEVEL OF SCRUTINY CONSISTENT
WITH THEIR GROWING SUCCESS.
JOE. THEY'RE PRETTY
UNAPOLOGETIC ABOUT THIS. IS
PRETTY UNAPOLOGETIC ABOUT THIS
AND I THINK IT'S BEEN SO
INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT'S
GOING ON HERE WITH THESE
RIVALS LOOK. AND YOU'VE SEEN
TIKTOK CONTINUED GROWTH.
YOU'VE SEEN INSTAGRAM HOLD ON
STRONG BUT NOT BE AS FAST
GROWING TIKTOK. AND THEN YOU
SEE FACEBOOK STRUGGLING AND
THEN AMID ALL OF THIS, YOU
HAVE THE FACT THAT TIKTOK IS
OWNED BY CHINESE COMPANY IN
BACKING THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION REMEMBER WHEN
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WAS
TRYING TO GET TIKTOK PARENT TO
SELL THE COMPANY BECAUSE THEY
WERE CONCERNED, BUT ALL THE
DATA, THOSE GETTING SENT BACK
TO CHINA. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE
AT FACEBOOK THAT WOULD BE
HAPPY IF THOSE CONVERSATIONS
EMERGED AGAIN BECAUSE THERE IS
THIS QUESTION LIKE A WERE YOU
LOOKING AT THESE GUYS AS
CLOSELY AS ARE LOOKING AT US.
AND BY THE WAY, THERE IS THIS
CONCERN RIGHT. I'VE REPORTING
ON THIS AND TALK WITH PARENTS
IN EXPERTS ON THIS ABOUT
GENERALLY SOCIAL MEDIA.
DANGEROUS FOR KIDS RIGHT LIKE
THAT THERE THERE IS SOMETHING
FUNDAMENTAL ABOUT ANY SOCIAL
MEDIA PLATFORM AND ITS
YOUNGEST USERS. ABSOLUTELY.
THERE IS THIS EXPOS A THAT
CAME OUT FROM THE FACEBOOK
WHISTLEBLOWER IN THE FALL AND
SHE REVEALED INTERNAL
DOCUMENTS THAT SHOWED THAT
PEOPLE INSIDE MEADOW WERE
CONCERNED ABOUT THE
IMPLICATIONS OF SOCIAL MEDIA
ON CHILDREN. THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT HAS REALLY BEEN TRYING TO
ADDRESS AND THEY KNOW THAT
PARENTS ARE CONCERNED THEY'RE
FACING SCRUTINY ABOUT
POTENTIALLY LAUNCHING AN
INSTAGRAM FOR KIDS. THEY KNOW
THAT THEY'RE ALL OF THESE
QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT
JUST BEING IN A ON SOCIAL
PLATFORMS IS JUST BAD FOR
TEENS I'M, OF COURSE, CHILDREN
ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ON IT,
ALTHOUGH THERE'S SOME QUESTION
ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE
ACCESS. SO THE QUESTION REALLY
I THINK IS HOW MUCH IS TIKTOK
ADDRESSING.
>> THESE ISSUES AND WE'VE READ
AND SEEN A LOT ABOUT BUT META
AND FACEBOOK ARE DOING. BUT
THERE'S A LOT LESS
TRANSPARENCY INTO A TIKTOK IS
DOING TOO LITTLE FORCE AND
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
APPRECIATE IT.
>> LET'S GET OVER THE 5 THINGS
OUR TEAM THINKS YOU SHOULD
KNOW ABOUT TONIGHT. NUMBER
ONE, A UNITED NATIONS
PEACEKEEPERS WERE KILLED AFTER
A HELICOPTER CRASH IN THE
DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO.
THEY WERE OUT THERE ON A
MILITARY MISSION WHEN THE
CHOPPER WENT DOWN IN AN AREA
WHERE THERE'S BEEN REBEL
FIGHTING OFFICIALS ARE STILL
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY
EXACTLY THAT HAPPENED. 2
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE BEEN
FORCED OUT OF THEIR HOMES.
LOOK AT THIS AS FLOODS RIPPED
THROUGH AUSTRALIA'S EAST
COAST. IT'S THE SECOND TIME IN
JUST A FEW WEEKS. THAT FLOODS
FORCED PEOPLE TO LEAVE.
OFFICIALS SAY THIS. CURRENT IS
A REALLY STRONG IT'S BURSTING
RIVERBANKS. IT'S BREAKING OVER
LEVEES. ETCETERA. NUMBER 3.21,
STATES ARE SUING THE CDC.
ANOTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES OVER
MASK MANDATES ON PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION LIKE PLANES.
YOU FLY ON. IT'S A LAWSUIT
THAT WAS FILED IN FLORIDA AND
IT SAYS PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE THE
RIGHT TO DO THINGS LIKE FLY
WITHOUT MASKS. THE CDC SAYS NO
COMMENT ON THAT SUIT JUST YET.
BEFORE THE FEDERAL TRADE
COMMISSION IS SUING THE
TURBOTAX OWNER INTO IT FOR ITS
ADVERTISING OF ITS OFFER AS
FREE. HERE'S THE DEAL. THE FTC
SAYS THE FREE VERSION OF THIS
TAX SOFTWARE IS ACTUALLY A
BAIT AND SWITCH BECAUSE MOST
PEOPLE WHO USE IT ARE ACTUALLY
CHARGED. WHEN YOU GO TO FILE
YOUR RETURN.
>> INTO IT SAYS THE AGENCY'S
CLAIMS ARE NOT CREDIBLE, BUT
BOY, IS THIS TIMELY THAT THE
TAX DEADLINE JUST A FEW WEEKS
AWAY. NUMBER 3, IF YOU'RE A
FAN OF GUACAMOLE AND WHO IS
AND I EXPECT ALL OF YOU TO BE
RIVETED BY THIS. A NEW STUDY
SAYS 2 SERVINGS A WEEK ABOUT A
CONDO CAN ACTUALLY CUT YOUR
RISK OF HEART ATTACK. 21%.
THAT'S COMPARED TO PEOPLE WHO
DON'T EAT AT ALL. TO BE CLEAR
THAT IF YOU EAT THEM INSTEAD
OF FATS LIKE BUTTER OR CHEESE.
SO MAYBE WITH UP A LITTLE
AVOCADO TOAST FOR BREAKFAST
TOMORROW. SOME UKRAINIANS ARE
HOPING TO FIND SAFETY HERE IN
THE U.S. WE'RE TALKING WITH
THE FAMILY WHO GOT ASYLUM AT
THE MEXICO BORDER AND
TONIGHT'S BACK. STUART. PLUS
IN AN NBC NEWS EXCLUSIVE WILL
BRING YOU A BEHIND THE SCENES
LOOK AT THE COUNTRY'S SPACE
FORCE. TOM COSTELLO JOINS ME
NEXT WITH MORE ON WHAT HE SAW
BEHIND THE SCENES AND THE RACE
TO WEAPONIZE SPACE.
♪
>> HOLD ONTO YOUR SEATS. THE
>> NASA TODAY WELCOMING ONE OF
ITS ASTRONAUTS BACK TO EARTH.
MARK VANDEHEI WHO NOW HOLDS
THE RECORD FOR THE LONGEST US
SPACEFLIGHT JUST SHY OF A
YEAR, 355 DAYS ON THE
INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION.
HE AND 2 FELLOW CREWMATES
RUSSIAN COSMONAUTS LANDED IN
KAZAKHSTAN.
>> AND WHAT WAS INTERESTING A
RARE MOMENT OF UNITY DURING
THIS WAR IN UKRAINE. THEY WERE
MET BY BOTH AMERICAN AND
RUSSIAN PERSONNEL SPACE, AT
LEAST IN THIS MOMENT PROVING
TO BE A TOPIC THEY CAN AGREE
ON HERE. BUT EVEN WITH THAT
DIPLOMACY, THE U.S. IS REALLY
WORRIED ABOUT POTENTIAL
RUSSIAN ATTACKS IN SPACE OR
ATTACKS FROM CHINA, TOO. NBC
NEWS GOT AN EXCLUSIVE BEHIND
THE SCENES LOOK AT AMERICA'S
SPACE FORCE. THE NEWEST BRANCH
OF THE ARMED FORCES AND A
PLACE THAT VERY FEW PEOPLE
HAVE EVER SEEN DURING A TIME
WHEN THE RACE TO WEAPONIZE
SPACE IS SPEEDING UP AND
VLADIMIR PUTIN IS PUTTING HIS
NUCLEAR FORCES ON HIGH ALERT.
THE U.S. MILITARY SAYS THE
STAKES COULD NOT BE HIGHER.
YOU SEE TOM COSTELLO AND THAT
SHOT YOU SEE TOM COSTELLO HERE
BECAUSE HE IS JOINING US NOW
FOR MORE ON THIS EXCLUSIVE.
IT'S SO INTERESTING TIME
BECAUSE AGAIN SPACE FORCE WAS
JUST CREATED UNDER THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION. OUR CAMERAS
WERE AMONG THE FIRST TO GO
INSIDE THIS LIKE SATELLITE OPS
CENTER. ANY TALKS WITH SOME OF
THESE GUARDIANS, WHICH IS WHAT
THEIR MEMBERS ARE CALLED. TELL
US ABOUT.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. I MEAN, AS
THE NAVY CALL SAILORS SAILORS,
A SPACE FORCE CALLS THEIR
PERSONNEL GUARDIANS. BOTH
ENLISTED PERSONNEL AND
OFFICERS. WE WERE INVITED TO
THE SPACE FORCE SATELLITE
COMMAND CENTER IN SIN,
COLORADO SPRINGS AND ALSO TO
THE ADJACENT GPS COMMAND
CENTER THERE WHERE THEY WATCH
OVER EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE
MILITARY SATELLITES ORBITING
AS WELL AS EVERY SINGLE ONE OF
THE U.S. MILITARY GPS
SATELLITES. AS YOU PROBABLY
KNOW, THE MILITARY IS WHO PUT
UP OUR GPS NETWORK ABOUT 25
YEARS AGO OR SO. THEIR JOB IS
TO WATCH EVERY SINGLE
SATELLITE FOR ANY CHANCE OR
ANY ANY, ANY OBSERVATION OF
INTERFERENCE. AND WHAT'S
WHAT'S STAGGERING HERE IS THAT
THE COMMANDING GENERALS OF
SPACE FORCE AND THEY INCLUDE,
BY THE WAY, PHD'S IN
ASTROPHYSICS AND AERONAUTICAL
ENGINEERING. I MEAN, THESE ARE
REAL BRILLIANT PEOPLE THEY ARE
CONVINCED AND THEY TELL ME.
BUT THEY ARE DEALING EVERY
SINGLE DAY WITH HARASSING
BEHAVIOR BY RUSSIAN AND
CHINESE SATELLITES. OBVIOUSLY
DIRECTIVE FROM THE GROUND
HARASSING OUR SATELLITES AND
WHAT WHAT REALLY WORRIES THEM
IS THE MILITARIZATION OF
SPACE. WE'VE ALREADY SEEN
RUSSIA AND CHINA DETONATE.
MISSILE SHOOT A MISSILE AND
DETONATE AND DESTROY THEIR OWN
SATELLITES IN SPACE. CREATING
MASSIVE DEBRIS FIELDS. AND WHY
WOULD YOU DO THAT IF YOU'RE
NOT TRYING TO TEST YOUR
OFFENSIVE CAPABILITY IN SPACE
AND SEND A MESSAGE AND THEY'RE
WORRIED ABOUT THAT. THEY'RE
ALSO WORRIED THAT THE CHINESE
APPEAR TO BE SETTING UP SOME
SORT OF A ROBOTIC MILITARY
POST ON THE FAR SIDE OF THE
MOON, THE DARK SIDE OF THE
MOON. BUT WE CAN'T SEE FROM
HERE. THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED
ABOUT THE PACE WITH WHICH THE
CHINESE ARE IN FACT
MILITARIZING SPACE IN TERMS OF
SATELLITE OPERATIONS AND
THEY'RE VERY WORRIED THAT AT
THIS PACE, THE CHINESE WILL
OVERTAKE THE U.S. IN LESS THAN
8 YEARS YOU LAID OUT THE
CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE ARE
VERY CLEAR. THEY ALSO FEEL, I
THINK TO SOME PEOPLE A LITTLE
INTANGIBLE BECAUSE WE'RE
TALKING QUITE LITERALLY ABOUT
THINGS THAT ARE VERY, VERY FAR
AWAY.
>> HOW WHAT IS THEIR MESSAGE
TO AMERICANS WHO MIGHT BE
LOOKING AT THIS GOING LIKE ITS
SPACE LIKE THIS. FEEL STAR
TREK FEEL STARS.
>> WELL, I THINK THAT'S WHY
THEY INVITED US AND THEY WANT
TO UNDERSCORE WHAT THEY
BELIEVE IS A VERY REAL ONGOING
THREAT AND THAT ALREADY SPACE
HAS BECOME THE NEW DOMAIN AND
POTENTIAL BATTLEFIELD. NOBODY
WANTS THAT. NOBODY WANTS TO
HAVE CONFLICT IN SPACE. BUT
BECAUSE OF THE OFFENSIVE
CAPABILITIES. ALL ALREADY
DEMONSTRATED BY THE RUSSIANS
AND THE CHINESE. THEY BELIEVE
THAT WE HAVE GOT TO BE VERY
MUCH AWARE OUR EYES WIDE OPEN
AND AND I THINK ALSO THEY NEED
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE
SAME KIND OF CAPABILITY EASILY
AT LEAST IN TERMS OF
OBSERVATION AND MONITORING.
AND LISTEN, YOU KNOW, THEY
ALSO MAKE THE POINT THAT IT IS
TO SOME EXTENT, YOU KNOW, THE
STEVE CARRELL COMEDY SPACE
FORCE HASN'T DONE THEM ANY
FAVORS BECAUSE PEOPLE
IMMEDIATELY THINK OF SPACE
FORCE AS A JOKE. I GOT TO SAY
WE SPENT 2 YEAR STARTED 2 DAYS
THERE ABOUT 2, 3, WEEKS AGO.
YEAH, IT IS ANYTHING BUT A
JOKE. THEIR DEADLY, DEADLY
SERIOUS AND VERY CONCERNED
THAT IN FACT THIS COULD BE A
BATTLEFIELD IN THE FUTURE.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SPENDING
TIME THAT ONE OF THE THINGS
YOU SAW WAS THIS MOBILE
SATELLITE CONTROL CENTER WHICH
I'M GOING TO PUT IT IN IN
SUPER LAYMAN'S TERMS. SO SO
GOT CHECKMATE. IT'S WRONG, BUT
IT KIND OF FEELS LIKE THE
BACKUP GENERATOR. IF
EVERYTHING GOES DOWN FOR THE
U.S. AFTER TRAILER. YEAH, IT'S
AN 18 WHEELER. IT'S ONE OF
MANY THAT ARE POISED TO ROLL
OUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND
IMMEDIATELY REESTABLISH COM
SATELLITE COMS.
>> WITH THE PRESIDENT WITH A
NUCLEAR CHAIN OF COMMAND WITH
AIR FORCE ONE WITH THE ENTIRE
MILITARY NETWORK WORLDWIDE.
EVERYBODY FROM THE PRESIDENT
DOWN TO THE UNIT. THAT'S ON
THE GROUND IN SOME REMOTE
LOCATION. THEY'VE GOT TO
MAINTAIN THOSE CALM. SO IN THE
EVENT OF A DOOMSDAY ATTACK.
THE SATELLITE COMMAND CENTER,
THEN THEY WOULD ROLL THE
SATELLITE A MOBILE OFFICE
CENTERS OUT WORLDWIDE. SO THEY
CAN MAINTAIN THAT CHAIN OF
COMMAND. IT IS A FASCINATING
LOOK AT SOMETHING NOT A LOT OF
PEOPLE GET TO SEE TOM COSTELLO
ARE SO GLAD THAT YOU HAVE THAT
STORY FOR US TONIGHT. THANK
YOU. HE'S GOING TO HAVE MORE,
BY THE WAY, AT THIS EXCLUSIVE
LOOK INTO THE SPACE FORCE
TONIGHT ON NBC NIGHTLY NEWS.
TIME NOW FOR A BACK STORY
BEHIND THE SCENES LOOK AT HOW
STORY COMES TOGETHER AND HOW
IT FITS INTO A BIGGER PICTURE
AND TONIGHT YOU'VE GOT
FAMILIES FROM UKRAINE TRYING
TO GET INTO THE U.S..
>> WITH NEWS NOW COMING INTO
US ACTUALLY RIGHT BEFORE WE
CAME ON THE AIR, THE CDC
SAYING THAT IN MAY IT WILL END
THE POLICY PUT IN PLACE BY THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION THAT KEPT
IMMIGRANTS FROM COMING INTO
THE U.S. ALL TO TRY TO STOP
THE SPREAD OF COVID. THIS WAS
A PANDEMIC POLICY. THIS NOW
COULD AFFECT UKRAINIAN
FAMILIES TO WHO ARE LOOKING TO
GET INTO THIS COUNTRY. ANTONIA
HYLTON MET ONE OF THEM, A
FAMILY WHO WAS TURNED AWAY
TWICE AT THE BORDER BETWEEN
THE U.S. AND MEXICO BEFORE
FINALLY BEING GRANTED ASYLUM.
THEY'RE NOW LIVING IN
CALIFORNIA WITH RELATIVES WHO
THEY HAVEN'T MET UNTIL JUST A
FEW WEEKS AGO AND TONY TALK
WITH MOM SOFIA LEFT HER
EXTENDED FAMILY BEHIND IN
UKRAINE AND THE LAWYER WHO
ACROSS THE BORDER. WATCH.
>> WE ALL HAD LIGHTS,
BEAUTIFUL LIFE'S FULL OF
HAPPINESS AND FRIENDS. IT
FEELS LIKE EVERYTHING'S
CHANGED IN THE MATTER OF A
COUPLE WEEKS.
>> YES, THEY FLED UKRAINE 3
DAYS AFTER THE BOMBINGS BEGAN
HEADING FOR MEXICO. I HAVE THE
FAMILY AND THE FRIENDS IN USA.
BUT SOPHIA WAS TURNED AWAY BY
BORDER PATROL TWICE. HOW DID THAT LEAVE YOU FEELING.
THAT LEAVE YOU FEELING.
>> THAT WAS REALLY. JUST TOYS.
>> DESTROYED COMES AS THE UN
TODAY SAYS NEARLY 10% OF
UKRAINIANS. THINK ABOUT THAT
ONE IN 10 PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN
UKRAINE HAVE LEFT 4 PLUS
MILLION PEOPLE OUT OF THE
COUNTRY SINCE THIS WAR
STARTED. WANT TO BRING IN NOW
IN 20 HILTON WHO WERE SO LUCKY
TO HAVE IN WASHINGTON. IT'S
GOOD TO SEE YOU. GET TO HAVING
AND YOU KNOW, THE BACK STORY
BEHIND THE SCENES LOOK AT HOW
THIS HAPPENS. TELL ME A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT HOW YOU GOT IN TOUCH
WITH THIS FAMILY. WHAT IT WAS
LIKE BE WITH THEM AS THEY WERE
EXPERIENCING THIS REALLY
INTENSE MOMENT.
>> WELL, IT REALLY WAS ALL UP
TO CHANCE. I HAPPENED TO REACH
OUT TO THE LAWYER WHO JUST
HAPPENED TO SEE THEM
DISTRAUGHT ON THE BORDER ONE
AFTERNOON WHILE SHE WAS THERE
WORKING WITH THE HAITIAN
FAMILY. SHE SAW THEM, HELP
THEM GET THIS EXEMPTION IN THE
OPPORTUNITY ACROSS AFTER THEIR
3RD ATTEMPT. AND THEN AFTER I
SPOKE TO ON THE PHONE JUST
TRYING TO GET A SENSE WHAT WAS
GOING ON WITH TITLE 42 AT THIS
POINT AND HOW THE GOVERNMENT
WAS JUSTIFYING THIS PANDEMIC
ERA POLICY AT A TIME WHEN
PEOPLE ARE TAKING OFF THEIR
MASKS AND CITIES ARE ROLLING
BACK MOST RESTRICTIONS AND
THEN SHE HAPPENED. TELL ME
ABOUT THIS FAMILY AND I SAID I
HAVE TO MEET THEM AND SO IS A
TRUST BUILDING PROCESS OF
LETTING THE LAWYER KNOW ABOUT
WHAT OUR INTENTIONS WERE WITH
THE STORY ABOUT LETTING THE
FAMILY UNDERSTAND WHO I AM. MY
HISTORY OF COVERING
IMMIGRATION AND TOOK A COUPLE
DAYS AND THEN WE WENT TO THEIR
HOME IN MET WITH THEM. DIDN'T
HAVE ANY HESITATION YOU KNOW,
THIS IS REALLY VULNERABLE, I
THINK FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
ANYBODY WHO DOES, YOU KNOW, IS
GOING TO BE INTERVIEWED BY
SOMEBODY ON TV.
>> ABSOLUTELY. AND IN FACT,
EVEN THE MORNING WHEN WE GOT
THERE TO THEIR HOME AND WE'RE
SET TO DO THE INTERVIEW. THERE
WAS STILL SOME MOM, SOFIA
SIDE. WE HAD A REALLY FRANK
CONVERSATION WHERE I LET HER
KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, YES, I'M
THE INTERVIEWER. BUT THIS IS
YOUR STORY SO IF YOU NEED TO
TAKE A. YOU WANT TO PAUSE FOR
A SECOND. GET A SIP OF WATER
THAT'S UNDER YOUR CONTROL. IT
WAS INTERESTING TO SEE HOW
THAT COMPLETELY SHIFTED
THINGS. I THINK OFTEN WHEN
PEOPLE SIT DOWN WITH
REPORTERS, THEY THINK THIS IS
LIVE IN THE AND NOT SO MUCH IS
AT STAKE IN THIS COUPLE
SECONDS THAT I HAVE. I WAS
LIKE, I'LL BE HERE ALL DAY. IF
THAT'S WHAT WOULD MAKE YOU
COMFORTABLE. AND SO EVERYTHING
SHIFTED IN THAT MOMENT WE
REALLY TOOK AT HER PACE. IT'S
SO INTERESTING WHAT YOU
DESCRIBE BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF
I THINK LIKE JOURNALISM IS
RIGHT WHEN YOU'RE REPORTING
THE FIELD, IT'S IT'S TRUST.
AND THEN IT'S SOMETIMES LITTLE
BIT OF LUCK, WHICH IS SORT OF
WHAT YOU LAY OUT, TOO, THAT
YOU HAPPEN UPON THEM. DID
ANYTHING YOU YOU MENTION YOU
COVERED IMMIGRATION A LOT.
MAKING SURPRISE YOU ABOUT
THIS. WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT
YOU ARE REPORTING YOU. WHAT
THAT'S WEIRD. I DIDN'T EXPECT
THAT TO HAPPEN. WELL, WHAT'S
MOST SURPRISING RIGHT NOW I
THINK IS REALLY GOING TO COME
INTO FOCUS NOW THAT TITLE 42
IS SET TO END IN A LITTLE
UNDER 2 MONTHS FROM NOW.
ACCORDING TO SOURCES FAMILIAR
WITH THAT. THIS IS YES. AND
FROM CNBC, AM AND I THINK
WHAT'S GOING TO BE CALLED INTO
QUESTION RIGHT NOW IS THE FACT
THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS
CURRENTLY EXPEDITING IN FAST
TRACKING PEOPLE LIKE SOPHIA
WHITE UKRAINIANS WHO ARE
ARRIVING RIGHT NOW ON THE
BORDER AND ARE STARTING TO
RESETTLE WITH THEIR FAMILIES.
AND ALTHOUGH THEY'VE HAD
REALLY TRAUMATIZING JOURNEYS
IN SOME WAYS OF THE LUCKY
ONES. THERE ARE HAITIAN
FAMILIES WHO WERE THERE THAT
DAY ON THE BORDER. STILL
WAITING FOR THEIR CHANCE TO
CROSS CAMEROONIAN FAMILIES, EL
SALVADORIAN FAMILIES AND ARE
IN FAMILIES WHO ARE ALSO
FLEEING VIOLENCE WHO HAVE
MEDICAL AILMENTS, WHO HAVE
WORRIES ABOUT POLITICAL
PERSECUTION AND THEY'RE GOING
TO START SAYING, HEY, AND KNOW
THAT WE HAVE THIS 2 MONTH
WINDOW. BUT WHAT'S GOING ON
HERE? WHAT'S SO DIFFERENT
ABOUT OUR CIRCUMSTANCES. I
THINK INCREASINGLY IT'S GOING
TO BE HARD FOR OFFICIALS WITH
THE CDC OR DHS. JUSTIFY THIS.
AND I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO
SEE THAT PART OF THE
CONVERSATION REALLY COME INTO
FOCUS. SO WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING
FOR OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF
MONTHS AS WE ANTICIPATE TITLE
42 ENDING. WELL, FIRST I WANT
TO TALK TO SOME OF THOSE
FOLKS. I'M HOPING TO GET TO
THE BORDER SOON TO TELL SOME
OF THEIR STORIES AND TO LOOK
AT WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING
BECAUSE I THINK SOME PEOPLE
DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE BORDERS.
HOW FINICKY THINGS CAN BE.
SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE AN
IMMIGRANT AND YOU SHOW UP AT
THE BORDER AND YOU TRY TO
EXERCISE YOUR RIGHT TO ASK FOR
ASYLUM. SOMETIMES IT'S JUST
ABOUT THE MOOD OF THE AGENT
THAT YOU GET THAT DAY. DOES
THAT PERSON WANT TO HELP YOU
IS THAT PERSON AWARE THAT THE
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION SENT THE
GUIDANCE TO GIVE AN EXEMPTION.
AND IF YOU JUST HAPPEN TO BE
UNLUCKY THAT DAY. YOU COULD BE
TURNED AWAY AND HAVE TO START
YOUR PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN.
AND SO GETTING SOME OF THOSE
DETAILS OUT THAT PEOPLE REALLY
UNDERSTAND THE CONDITIONS ON
THE BORDER ARE REALLY LIKE
RIGHT NOW. AND IT'S NOT JUST
ALL ABOUT THIS CRUSH OF
MIGRANTS WHO MIGHT BE COMING
IN THE HEADLINES THAT WE'RE
PROBABLY GOING TO SEE. BUT THE
REAL STORIES WHAT PEOPLE ARE
ENCOUNTERING AND WHAT MIGRANTS
RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR SYSTEM
REALLY LIKE THAT'S WHAT I WANT
TO COVER BRING THOSE STORIES
BACK. THE LOVE TO HAVE YOU
LOVE TO SHARE THEM.
HORSE-SHOE. THANK YOU. IT'S
GOOD TO SEE EACH.
>> NBC NEWS COMES HUNDREDS OF
STORIES EVERY DAY AND BECAUSE
YOU COULDN'T POSSIBLY READ OR
WATCH OR LISTEN TO THEM. ALL.
OUR BUREAU TEAMS HAVE DONE IT
FOR YOU. THIS IS WHAT THEY
TELL US IS GOING DOWN IN THEIR
REGIONS IN A SEGMENT WE CALL
THE LOCAL FROM OUR MIDWEST
BUREAU. PROSECUTORS RESTED
THEIR CASE TODAY AS EXPECTED
AGAINST THESE 4 MEN CHARGE OF
PLOTTING TO KIDNAP MICHIGAN
GOVERNOR GRETCHEN WHITMER. IT
COMES AFTER THE FBI RAIDED A
HOME IN DETROIT OVER ALLEGED
THREATS MADE TO THE JUDGE AND
2 DEFENSE ATTORNEYS ON THE
CASE. NO ARRESTS YET IN THAT.
BUT THE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
WHO'S BEHIND THOSE THREATS
FROM OUR NORTHEAST BUREAU
BECAUSE THE ROOF OF THE
PENNSYLVANIA BOWLING ALLEY
COLLAPSE AFTER THIS MASSIVE
FIRE RIPPED THROUGH IT
HAPPENED IN MY HOME COUNTY OF
BUCKS COUNTY PLACE WAS EMPTY
WHEN THE ROOF CAME DOWN. THANK
GOODNESS. SO NOBODY GOT HURT.
BUT OFFICIALS SAY THE WHOLE
THING STARTED IN A STORAGE
AREA IN THE BACK OF THE
BUILDING. AND FROM OUR
WASHINGTON BUREAU. THE COAST
GUARD IS STILL TRYING TO GET A
STRANDED SHIP UNSTUCK IN THE
CHESAPEAKE BAY. THE EVER
FORD'S BEEN THERE FOR 2 WEEKS
NOW. 2 WEEKS THEY HAVE 5 WILL
TUG BOATS. THEY'RE TRYING TO
USE TO PULL IT FREE. THAT
HASN'T WORKED YET. THE PLAN IS
TO TAKE SOME CARGO OFF THE
SHIP BEFORE THEY GO IN AND TRY
AGAIN. WANT TO BRING OUT
TONIGHT TO WITH IN-DEPTH
REPORTING ON A TOPIC WE'VE
BEEN KEEPING AN EYE ON, YOU
KNOW, GUN OWNERSHIP SPIKED
DURING THE PANDEMIC. SOME
20 MILLION GUNS IN THE U.S.
BOUGHT IN 2021 AND WITH THOSE
SALES CAME MORGAN ACCIDENTS.
ONE FIREARM SAFETY GROUP
COUNTED NEARLY 400
UNINTENTIONAL SHOOTINGS. MY
CHILDREN LAST YEAR. THE COLOR
163 PEOPLE. NOW ONE COMPANY IS
TRYING TO BRING WHAT IT CALLS
A SMART GUN TO THE MARKET WITH
THE PROMISE THAT THIS SMART
GUN. NEW TECHNOLOGY WILL MAKE
SURE THAT ONLY THE AUTHORIZED
USER CAN ACTUALLY FIRE IT.
>> THE CONCEPT ITSELF IS NOT
ALL THAT NEW, BUT THE TECH IS
RIGHT. THAT'S WHY NOBODY'S
BEEN ABLE TO ACTUALLY GET THIS
PRODUCT OUT TO PEOPLE YET. OUR
KEN DILANIAN HAS A CLOSER LOOK
AT THE PUSH TO TRY TO MAKE US
SAFER. GUN. WATCH.
>> YOUNG LIVES SNUFFED OUT IN
SECONDS. 15 YEAR-OLD ETHAN
SONG DIED AFTER ACCIDENTALLY
SHOOTING HIMSELF WITH A
NEIGHBOR'S HANDGUN STORED IN A
CLOSET SHOE BOX. HIS SHATTERED
PARENTS NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO
SAY GOODBYE. I WANT TO GO IN
AND SIT WITH HIM AND FOR SAW
APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I REALLY
FELT LIKE I LET THEM DOWN. I
FELT LIKE
>> SO IF MY JOB WAS TO PROTECT
MY CHILD AND THEM. AND I CAN
DO THAT.
>> AND WE DIDN'T GET THAT
CHANCE AT ALL. THE DOCTOR SAID
IT'S TOO GROTESQUE. YOU CAN'T
GO IN THERE.
>> THIS WEAPON IS DESIGNED TO
PREVENT SUCH TRAGEDIES. SO WE
DID OK GINGER CHANDLER IS THE
CHIEF TECHNOLOGY OFFICER AT
LODESTAR WORKS. ONE OF THE FEW
FIRMS DEVELOPING A SO-CALLED
SMART GUN. WE HAVE 3 METHODS.
WE USE.
>> BIOMETRICS. THERE'S A PAD
ON THE FRONT OF THE FIRE AND
THEN THE BLUE TOOTH
TECHNOLOGY. IT'S I SEE IT JUST
CONNECTS AND IT'S A BOND
CONNECTION WITH YOUR PHONE AND
IT GIVES YOU A WAY TO UNLOCK A
LOT.
>> GARETH GLASER IS LODESTAR
CEO. YOU DON'T HAVE TO THINK
ABOUT WEATHER. YOU PUT YOUR GOT IN THE SAFE. THE SAFE IS
GOT IN THE SAFE. THE SAFE IS
IN THE GUN. AND THAT'S OUR
TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES HAVE BEEN
PROMISING SMART GUNS FOR
YEARS. BUT IT TURNS OUT THE
TECHNOLOGY THAT WORKS ON OUR
PHONES DOESN'T WORK AS WELL ON
GUNS BUT LODESTAR SAYS IT WILL
BE READY. SO WHAT I HEAR
PEOPLE SAY I DON'T TRUST
ACKNOWLEDGE I SAY ABOUT OR
SOMEBODY TO WORK TODAY. NOW
YOU DROVE A CAR WHICH IS FULL
OF TECHNOLOGY. THAT'S ONE
ANSWER. IS THAT TECHNOLOGY,
ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT PERFECT IS
PRETTY DARNED LODESTAR IS ONE
OF AT LEAST 2 COMPANIES TRYING
TO BRING A SMART GUN TO MARKET
AFTER YEARS OF UNSUCCESSFUL
ATTEMPTS WHEN SMITH AND WESSON
FLOATED THE IDEA IN THE 1990'S
AS PART OF A LEGAL SETTLEMENT,
A BOYCOTT BY GUN RIGHTS GROUPS
NEARLY TOOK DOWN THE COMPANY.
A GERMAN FIRM TRIED AGAIN A
FEW YEARS AGO. BUT A HACKER
SHOWED HOW THE GUN COULD
EASILY BE UNLOCKED WITH
MAGNETS FIRST THE TECHNOLOGY
ISN'T THERE YET, LARRY KEANE
IS THE TOP LOBBYIST FOR THE
NATIONAL SHOOTING SPORTS
FOUNDATION.
>> HE SAYS HIS GROUP IS NOT
OPPOSED TO SMART GUNS, BUT
IT'S DUBIOUS THAT THEY ARE
WORKABLE. IF HIM THE BATTERY
FAILS.
>> AND YOU CANNOT USE THE
FIREMEN A TIME OF NEED.
SOMEONE IS BREAKING INTO YOUR
HOUSE TO COMMIT RAPE MURDER,
WHATEVER. THAT'S A THAT'S A
COMING FOR HAVE FIREARM FOR
SELF-PROTECTION.
>> BOTH STARS GUN CAN BE SENT
TO FIRE IF THE BATTERY FAILS,
THE COMPANY ACKNOWLEDGES ITS
TECH IS NOT QUITE READY FOR
MARKET BUT SAYS IT'S CLOSE.
LODESTAR SAYS IT'S SMART GUN
WOULD COST AROUND $900
COMPARED TO A TYPICAL $600
HANDGUN BUT POLLS SHOW MANY
GUN OWNERS MIGHT BE WILLING TO
PAY A PREMIUM FOR MORE SAFETY.
>> WE'RE PROVING THAT IT
WORKS. YOU HAVE A RIGHT AND A
RESPONSIBILITY TO CONTROL YOUR
FIREARMS. YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO
YOUR FIREARM. BUT NOBODY ELSE
HAS A RIGHT TO YOUR FIREARM
AND MISUSE OF FIREARMS IS. IS
THE MAJOR CAUSE. WHAT'S GOING
RIGHT NOW IN TERMS DEATHS, BUT
THAT THEIR STOLEN ILLEGALLY
OBTAINED.
>> OR MISUSED. EVEN BY
ACCIDENT. WHEN ETHAN SONGS
PARENTS HEARD ABOUT THE SMART
GUN. THEY HAD A HAUNTING
THOUGHT WAS LIKE, OH, MY GOD,
I WOULD THINK EVEN LIFE MY
UNDERSTANDING SMART GUN, IS IT
KNOWS THE OWNERS FINGERPRINT
AND ETHAN WOULD NOT HAVE HAD
THAT FINGERPRINT, THAT GUN
WOULD HAVE SIMPLY FROZE IN HIS
HAND AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN
AN AMAZING MOMENT. IT DIDN'T
HAPPEN FOR THEIR SON, BUT THEY
HOPE IT CAN HAPPEN FOR SOME
OTHER CHILD.
>> AND IS JOINING US HERE NOW
ON SAID I'M SO STRUCK BY WHAT
WE JUST HEARD FROM THE SONG
FAMILY THERE. RIGHT. AND IN A
TALK WITH ANOTHER MOM WHO IS
HOPEFUL THAT THIS TECH COULD
HELP THE FAMILY NOW.
>> YEAH. OUR COLLEAGUE JORDAN
WYNTER SAT DOWN WITH THE MOM
WHOSE 17 YEAR-OLD SON KILLED
HIMSELF HIS FATHER'S GUN.
STORED IN A HALLWAY CLOSET. IF
THAT ISN'T SAD ENOUGH. SHE'S
NOW WORRIED ABOUT HER OTHER 3
CHILDREN WHO SHE KNOWS ARE
SOMETIMES IN THE HOUSE WHERE
THERE'S A LOADED GUN AND SHE
FEELS LIKE IF THE IF IT WAS A
SMART GUN, SHE WOULDN'T WORRY.
AND YOU KNOW, THE MAKERS OF
THIS TECHNOLOGY IN THE PEOPLE
WHO ADVOCATE FOR THINK THAT IT
CAN SAVE A COUPLE OF DRIVES A
YEAR. IT WOULD BE WORTH 10
DELANEY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
BRINGING US THE STORY BANKS
>> JUST BEFORE WE CAME ON AIR.
THIS TASK FORCE OUT IN
CALIFORNIA ON REPARATIONS
DISCUSS WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK
LIKE FOR BLACK AMERICANS IN
THE STATE AFTER TAKING THE
UNPRECEDENTED STEP YESTERDAY
ON VOTING WHO EXACTLY WOULD BE
ELIGIBLE. LET ME JUST TELL YOU
THIS IS BEING LOOKED AT BY THE
ENTIRE COUNTRY ON THIS ISSUE
OF REPARATIONS. IT COULD SERVE
AS A MODEL FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO HERE'S WHAT THIS PANEL IN
CALIFORNIA DID THAT SHOWS TO
LIMIT COMPETITION JUST TO
CALIFORNIANS WHO ARE
DESCENDANTS OF FREE AND
ENSLAVED BLACK PEOPLE WHO WERE
IN THE U.S. IN THE 19TH
CENTURY IN A 5 TO 4 VOTE. THEY
NARROWLY REJECTED A PROPOSAL
TO INCLUDE ALL BLACK PEOPLE
REGARDLESS OF THEIR LINEAGE.
THIS IS A BIG DEAL, RIGHT. WE
TALKED ABOUT CALIFORNIA'S PUSH
IS THE FIRST AT THIS KIND OF
SCALE AFTER GOVERNOR GAVIN
NEWSOME, WHO YOU SEE HERE
SIGNED A BILL CREATING THIS TO
YOUR REPARATIONS TASK FORCE
BACK IN 2020 SEE PATTERSON IS
JOINING US NOW FROM LA TO TALK
ABOUT THIS. AND STEVE, I KNOW
THERE ARE SOME DEVELOPMENTS
THAT ARE HAPPENING EVEN AS
WE'VE BEEN ON THE AIR. AND AS
YOU'RE SORT OF REPORTING THIS
OUT. HOURS OF DEBATE. WE'RE
TALKING EMOTIONAL DEBATE TESTY
DEBATE ON SOME OF THESE
DECISIONS OF WHO WOULD GET
REPARATIONS. WHAT WAS THAT
LIKE WHEN THIS IS HAPPENING.
>> HE DID IT STILL HAS.
THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO
DESCRIBE IT. JUST AS YOU
DESCRIBED AND YOU KNOW, FOR
GOOD REASON. WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT DEFINING THE PARAMETERS
FOR GENERATIONS OF SYSTEMATIC
OPPRESSION. YOU CANNOT DEFINE
WHAT IN WITH THAT INCLUDES AND
WHO THAT INCLUDES. YEAH,
EXACTLY. WITHOUT, YOU KNOW,
REALLY INHERENTLY PAINFUL
DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS COUNTRY.
SO THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. THAT'S
WHAT IT STILL IS HOURS AND
HOURS OF DEBATE THAT INCLUDED
ARGUMENT AND DIRECT FEEDBACK
FROM THE PUBLIC WITH A LOT OF
LEGITIMATE CONCERNS BECAUSE IF
YOU DEFINE REPARATIONS
STRICTLY AS A RECKONING FOR
DESCENDANTS OF CHATTEL SLAVERY
AND YOU MIGHT BE INHERENTLY
IGNORING THE RIPPLE EFFECTS OF
RIGHT. SO RACISM ITSELF
SEGREGATION. JIM CROW MASS
INCARCERATION REDLINING,
EDUCATION, THINGS THAT HAVE
IMPACTED GENERATIONS OF BLACK
PEOPLE, WHETHER THEY CAME AND
AS 17TH CENTURY SLAVE SHIP OR
20TH CENTURY CRUISE SHIP. IF
YOU MAKE THOSE TOO WIDE.
THEY'RE GOING MAKE A LOT OF
FAMILIES ANGRY, INCLUDING
PEOPLE WHO HAD NO CHOICE ARE
DESCENDANTS OF PEOPLE HAD NO
CHOICE BUT. IT WAS MESSY. IT
CONTINUES TO BE MESSY BECAUSE
ULTIMATELY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
A QUESTION, NOT A QUESTION OF
PAYMENT FOR ONE OF JUSTICE.
AND THAT'S SO IMPORTANT TO THE
CENTRAL ARGUMENT. WHAT COULD
HAPPEN, AS YOU SAID IN THE
REST OF THE COUNTRY. AND TO BE
CLEAR, THIS ISN'T SOME
THEORETICAL DISCUSSION, RIGHT.
LIKE THAT WITH THE TASK FORCE
DECIDE AND WHO THEY LIMIT
ELIGIBILITY TO ITS CENTER IS
GOING TO LIKE THIS IS GOING TO
MOVE FORWARD RIGHT TO THE
CLEAR THIS FIRST HURDLE NOW.
>> TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS HOW
THEY GO ABOUT FINDING SOME OF
THESE PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE
ELIGIBLE FOR REPARATIONS IN
CALIFORNIA. WELL, THAT'S THE
BIG QUESTION RIGHT.
ALTERNATELY THEY WENT WITH THE
EXISTENTIAL SPIRIT OF WHY THE
PANEL WAS FORMED IN THE FIRST
LINEAGE IN GENIALITY
SPECIFICALLY LIMITING
COMPENSATION TO DESCENDANTS OF
FREE IN BLACK AND SLAVE BLACK
PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE U.S. IN
THE 19TH CENTURY. YOU LAY THAT
OUT.
>> THE ARGUMENT IS SIMPLY THAT
IT WOULD HOLD UP BETTER IN A
CONSERVATIVE SUPREME COURT OR
HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF
SURVIVING A LEGAL CHALLENGE.
ALL, OF COURSE, LEADING TO
THAT QUESTION OF WHAT HAPPENS
NEXT. AND WE SIMPLY DON'T
KNOW. SO NOW YOU'VE DECIDED
WHO DESERVES REPARATIONS BASED
ON THAT LINEAGE. HOW THEN DO
YOU DECIDE WHO PROVES IT. HOW
DO YOU PROVE IT'S NOT LIKE THE
RECORDS READILY AVAILABLE TO
FREED SLAVES ALONG WITH THIS
SYSTEM OF PRESERVATION. SO FOR
A LOT OF FAMILIES, MINE
INCLUDED OUR HISTORY IS LIKE A
BLURRY MESS OR MORE LIKELY
LIKE A BLACK HOLE. IF YOU GO
BACK FAR ENOUGH, WE'RE GOING
TO TELL ME THAT MILLIONS OF
BLACK FAMILY SHOULD HIRE A
GEOLOGIST OR TAKE TIME OUT OF
WHAT WE'RE DOING. RIGHT. YEAH,
I LIKE HE CAN. YOU TAKE TIME
OF WAR TO DIG THROUGH FEDERAL
DOCUMENTS WITH WHAT LIKE CROSS
REFERENCING OR SLAVE NAME IT.
IT'S A MESS. AND THEN YOU HAVE
TO DECIDE WHAT THE BEST SYSTEM
OF COMPENSATION LOOK LIKE. IS
IT A DIRECT PAYMENT TO
FAMILIES IN COLLEGE TUITION IS
ITS STUDENT LOAN FORGIVENESS
BUSINESS GRANTS HOMEBUYING
ASSISTANCE. WE JUST DON'T KNOW
YET. IT'S A QUESTION THAT'S
REALLY COMPLICATED AS
COMPLICATED AS DECIDING WHO IS
ELIGIBLE IN THE FIRST PLACE
BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS ABOUT
JUSTICE AND NOT JUST
COMPENSATION. SO IT'S A LOT OF
ASPECTS. ALL BLENDING INTO
THIS ONE BIG AND I THINK THE
PANEL HAS A LOT MORE WORK TO
DO AS THEY CONTINUE TALK ABOUT
WHAT A BIG DEAL THIS IS
BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE
COUNTRY ARE WATCHING THIS.
THIS HASN'T HAPPENED AT THIS
SCALE BEFORE. YOU KNOW, I I
LIVE IN WASHINGTON THE FEDERAL
LEVEL. THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT
REPARATIONS HAS HAS KIND OF
GONE NOWHERE. BUT YOU DO HAVE
MAYBE NOT STATE CALIFORNIA BUT
CITIES UNIVERSITIES TAKING
THIS UP. RIGHT. TALK ABOUT
SOME OF THOSE MOVES THAT WE'RE
SEEING IN THE MINUTE WE HAVE
LEFT HERE GEORGETOWN
UNIVERSITY BOSTON CONSIDERING
A PROPOSAL TO FORMER
REPARATIONS COMMISSION, RHODE
ISLAND FORMED ITS OWN
COMMISSION DETROIT WHERE MY
FAMILY IS FORMED A TASK FORCE
EVANSTON, ILLINOIS ACTUALLY
BECOME THE FIRST CITY TO MAKE
REPARATIONS AVAILABLE TO BLACK
RESIDENTS LAST YEAR. BUT NOT
MANY PEOPLE ARE HAPPY WITH
WHAT THEY DID. SO CALIFORNIA
IS REALLY THIS FIRST AND ONLY
STATE TO MOVE AHEAD WITH A
PLAN LIKE THIS. AND AS YOU
SAID, A LOT OF OTHER LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS STATES THE WHOLE
COUNTRY LOOKING AT WHAT
HAPPENS HERE TO SEE WHAT THEY
NEED TO DO MOVING FORWARD. HOW
STEVE PATTERSON SO GLAD TO
HAVE YOU ON THE STORY FOR US.
KEEP US POSTED BECAUSE WE KNOW
THERE'S A LOT MORE
DEVELOPMENTS, AS YOU LAID OUT
ON THIS ONE. APPRECIATE IT.
STEVE, THANKS. APPRECIATE YOU
JOINING US FOR THIS HOUR.
ANOTHER BUSY ONE WHO KNEW OR
HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE FOR YOU
HERE TOMORROW. SAME TIME, SAME
PLACE. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR
JOINING US. COVERAGE PICKS UP
RIGHT NOW.
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