ON IN THE SHOW.
>> HEY, I'M HALLE AND WE'RE
COMING ON THE AIR WITH NEWS
FIRST REPORTED BY NBC ON HOW
EXACTLY PRESIDENT BIDEN AND
ALLIES ARE GOING TO PUNISH
RUSSIA FOR HIS APPARENT WAR
CRIMES IN BLUE CHIP. WE'RE
STILL TRYING TO GET A GOOD
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT EXACTLY
HAPPENED IN THAT SUBURB OF
KYIV ON YOUR SCREEN. YOU CAN
SEE WHAT'S LEFT OF IT HERE.
BEACHES. MAYOR SAYING JUST
3700 PEOPLE ARE LEFT IN A CITY
THAT TYPICALLY HAS 37,000.
THINK ABOUT THOSE NUMBERS. AND
THAT IN SOME BIT OF A SILVER
LINING MEDICAL CARE WILL
RETURN TO THAT CITY TOMORROW.
NEW SATELLITE IMAGES JUST
COMING IN ARE IN DIRECT
CONTRADICTION TO CLAIMS BY
MOSCOW THAT THESE ATROCITIES
BODIES IN THE STREETS OF
APPARENT CIVILIANS. SOME SHOT
EXECUTION STYLE HAPPENED
BEFORE. AFTER RATHER THEY
PULLED OUT. BECAUSE OF ALL OF
US. EVERYTHING YOU'RE SEEING 3
SOURCES TELL NBC NEWS THE U.S.
AND EUROPEAN ALLIES ARE GOING
TO SLAP NEW SANCTIONS ON
RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS,
BANKS AND STATE OWNED
COMPANIES AND THE FAMILIES OF
RUSSIAN ELITES TOMORROW AND
IT'S HAPPENING AS PRESIDENT
ZELENSKY IS MAKING HIS
STRONGEST AND MOST DIRECT
APPEAL YET TO THE REST OF THE
WORLD DEMANDING MORE FROM THE
WEST IN HIS FIRST EVER SPEECH
TO THE UN SECURITY COUNCIL.
LISTEN.
>> YET TO SEE WHAT THEY HAVE
DONE IN A THAT I'D USE. IT
DOES NOT REGIONS OF OUR TO
CLOSE YOU AND DO YOU THINK
THAT THE TIME INTERNATIONAL
LAW IS THE YOUR ANSWER IS NO,
THEN YOU NEED TO ACT
IMMEDIATELY.
>> ALI AROUZI IS JOINING US
NOW FROM LVIV IN AL, YOU HEARD
IT THERE. PRESIDENT ZELENSKY
JUST LAYING IT OUT ACCUSING
RUSSIA BASICALLY THE WORST WAR
CRIMES SINCE THE NAZIS IN
WORLD WAR 2.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. HOW TALKING
ABOUT WHOLESALE REFORM AT THE
U N HE SAYING THAT THE
RUSSIANS ARE USING THAT VETO
POWER ON THE UN SECURITY
COUNCIL TO CAUSE DEATH IN THE
SAYING THAT UNDERMINES THE
WHOLE ARCHITECTURE OF THE
GLOBAL SECURITY SYSTEM AND
ALLOWS EVIL TO GO UNPUNISHED.
I MEAN, A VERY PASSIONATE
SPEECH AND THEN HE ALSO SPOKE
ABOUT WHAT WOULD WHAT WE JUST
HEARD. HE SAYING THAT SOME OF
THE WORST WAR CRIMES THEY'VE
SEEN IN EUROPE AND THAT NOT
ONLY COULD TO BE PUNISHED FOR
THIS BUT THE COME ON THOSE
THAT WERE IN BREACH OF THE LOW
LEVEL. SOLDIERS ALSO HAVE TO
BE PUNISHED FOR IT. FOR
PERPETRATING THESE CRIMES AND
HE REFERRED TO THE NUREMBERG
TRIALS WHERE WHERE THE NAZIS
WERE BOUGHT IT RIGHT AFTER
THOSE ATROCITIES IN GERMANY
DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR.
AND HE'S BASICALLY SAYING, YOU
KNOW, THOSE EXCUSES WE HEARD
IN NUREMBERG HAVE TO COUNT
HERE. A LOW LEVEL SOLDIER CON
SAY I WAS JUST A BANG ORDERS
AND EXPECT TO GET A LET OFF
THE HOOK. HE SAYS ALL OF THESE
PEOPLE HAVE TO BE FOR WHAT
THEY DID AND AND THIS HAS TO
BE ENFORCED VERY STRONGLY WITH
HAVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS. AND
IF THEY WILL. BUT IT CERTAINLY
WAS A PASSIONATE SPEECH BY HIM
AND HE ALSO HIT ALL THE RIGHT
NOTES LIKE HE DOES EVERY TIME
HE GIVES US VERY PERSONAL AND
DIRECTED SPECIFICALLY TO THE
AUDIENCE THAT HE WAS TALKING
TO ALLIE. YOU'RE RIGHT AND
IT'S COMING AGAINST THE
BACKDROP.
>> OF THESE NEW WARNINGS NOW
COMING OUT OF, YOU KNOW, US
DEFENSE OFFICIALS.
>> THAT THIS COULD GO FOR A
WHILE, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY NOT
WITH THE UKRAINIANS. WANT TO
HEAR. LET ME TELL LET ME PLAY
FOR YOU RATHER, WITH THE JOINT
CHIEFS OF STAFF CHAIR TOLD
LAWMAKERS JUST A COUPLE OF
HOURS AGO ABOUT THIS.
>> I DO THINK THIS IS A VERY
PROTRACTED CONFLICT. AND I
THINK IT'S AT LEAST MEASURED
IN YEARS. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT
DECADE, BUT AT LEAST.
>> YEARS FOR SURE.
>> I MEAN, YEARS. VERSUS, YOU
KNOW, DAYS OR WEEKS WHEN YOU
TALK WITH UKRAINIANS ON THE
GROUND THERE. HOW ARE THEY
MENTALLY PREPARING FOR THAT
POSSIBILITY.
>> INTERESTING. I JUST TALKED
TO A WHOLE BUNCH OF UKRAINE IS
IN THE SQUARE BEHIND ME THAT
THERE ARE HOLDING A VIGIL THAT
WHAT HAPPENED IN BRIDGEND
THESE GUYS ARE BACK TO THEIR
BREWS. BUT THAT ANYTHING BUT
BEAT THE IF ANYTHING, THE WHAT
HAPPENED IN HAS STIFFENED
THEIR RESULTS HERE IN THIS
COUNTRY. THEY ARE DETERMINED
TO GET THEIR COUNTRY BACK AND
IT'S ENTIRETY TO PUSH THE
RUSSIANS OUT AND YOU HEAR THAT
FROM EVERYBODY, FROM CHILDREN,
FROM WOMEN, FROM AD, FROM
FIGHTERS, FROM OLD MAN.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BACK
DOWN. AND OF COURSE, IF THIS
IS A WAR OF ATTRITION. IT'S
REALLY GOING TO BE VERY HARD
FOR THEM. BUT, YOU KNOW, FROM
EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD FROM
EVERYBODY I'VE SPOKEN TO HERE.
THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO GIVE UP
UNTIL THE VERY, VERY BITTER.
ONE WOMAN WE SPOKE TO SAID,
YOU KNOW, SHE HAD A FLAT A
SUBURB OF KYIV. SHE SAYS SHE
MISSES HER HOME. SHE WANTS TO
GO BACK THERE WITH HER
HUSBAND, HER DOGS CATS AND
THEN EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW IT'S
NOT IMPORTANT. WE'VE JUST GOT
TO GET OUR LAND BACK AT MY
HOME DOESN'T MATTER. MY
COUNTRY TO ME AND WE'RE NOT
GOING TO GIVE UP. WE SPOKE TO
ANOTHER LADY IN THE SQUARE.
SHE WAS A TEACHER FROM OUR
PENN. SHE HAD A LOT OF
STUDENTS AND LET'S TAKE A
LISTEN TO WHAT SHE HAD TO SAY.
>> I WAS LITERALLY A POLL BY
WHAT I SAW AND I COULDN'T PUT
IT INTO WORDS LIKE WHAT IT WAS
FOR ME. AND STILL WHEN I THOSE
MEMORIES TEARS TO MY EYES IT'S
JUST IT'S THE PLACE WHERE I
WHERE I WAS BORN AND WHERE I
GREW AND WHERE I HAD BEEN
LIVING.
>> YOU KNOW, SHE SHE WAS FROM
THAT AREA. SHE HAS JUST MISSES
TIME. SHE GOES. I MISS THE
PARK AND BUTCH I MISS MY
STUDENTS AND SHE SPOKE TO SOME
OF COMMON IS THAT SHE TOLD
THAT SHE SAID ONE FAMILY SHE
KNOWS VERY WELL. WE'RE HIDING
IN A BASEMENT FOR 2 AND A HALF
WEEKS JUST TO, YOU KNOW, OUT
OF FEAR OF WHAT THE RUSSIANS
MAY DO TO THEM. BUT IT STILL
HASN'T BROKEN THAT RESULT. SHE
WANTS TO GET BACK THERE AS
SOON AS SHE SHE'S JUST SAYING.
AUTHORITIES SAYING, LISTEN,
THIS HOLD ON TO ITS ENTIRELY
SAFE UNTIL THE TRAPS AND MINES
AND TAKEN AWAY. AND THEN THEN
YOU CAN GO ALI AROUZI, THANK
YOU SO MUCH. WE'LL LOOK AHEAD
OF COURSE, TO THE SANCTIONS.
WE EXPECT TO SEE ROLLED OUT
TOMORROW WITH THIS BIG
QUESTION, OF COURSE, EUROPE
RELIES ON THIS. RUSSIAN
ENERGY.
>> AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO
NAVIGATE THAT. ALI, THANK YOU.
BACK HERE AT HOME TONIGHT IN
WASHINGTON WITH FINALLY
GETTING NEED TO NEW DETAILS
RATHER NEWS WAS FIRST TO
REPORT TODAY THAT IVANKA
TRUMP, ONE OF FORMER PRESIDENT
TRUMP'S CLOSEST CONFIDANTS.
HIS DAUGHTER, A FORMER WHITE
HOUSE OFFICIAL IS TESTIFYING
TODAY AND FOR THE HOUSE
JANUARY 6 COMMITTEE. ACCORDING
TO MULTIPLE SOURCES, THE
CHAIRMAN OF THAT COMMITTEE IS
TELLING US SHE SHOWING UP
VIRTUALLY RIGHT. THIS IS VIA
ZOOM OR SOMETHING SIMILAR AND
SHE IS ANSWERING QUESTIONS.
SHE'S TALKING. SHE'S A KEY
WITNESS IN THIS INVESTIGATION
BECAUSE SHE WAS THERE ON
JANUARY 6TH AT THE ELLIPSE FOR
THE RALLY INSIDE THE OVAL
OFFICE THAT DAY LISTENING TO
ONE END OF THE PHONE CALL
BETWEEN HER FATHER AND FORMER
VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PETS. AND
I'M SURE REMEMBER, HER
TESTIMONY IS COMING ONLY A
WEEK NOW AFTER THAT OF HER
HUSBAND'S JARED KUSHNER WHO
SPOKE VIRTUALLY FOR 6 HOURS
WITH THE COMMITTEE
REPRESENTATIVE FOR IVANKA
TRUMP DID NOT RESPOND TO A
REQUEST FOR COMMENT. BUT LET
ME BRING IN NOW GARRETT HAKE.
AND WHAT'S INTERESTING IS IN
YOUR CONVERSATION WITH THE
CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE JUST
IN THE LAST COUPLE HOURS OR
SO. HE SUGGESTED THAT TO HIS
KNOWLEDGE AND THAT'S AN
IMPORTANT CAVEAT. SHE HASN'T
BEEN ASSERTING, FOR EXAMPLE,
EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. AND HOW IS
THIS WE KNOW WE'RE PROBABLY ON
ABOUT OUR 7 OF THIS
DEPOSITION. IT'S A LITTLE BIT
HARD TO TRACK WHEN THE
WITNESSES ARE VIRTUAL THAT
THESE THINGS TEND TO PRETTY
EARLY IN THE DAY. AND SO
MEMBERS COME AND GO AS THEY'RE
ABLE TO STAY ON TOP OF THINGS.
THOMPSON HAD LEAVE TO GO TO A
VOTE SERIES THAT LASTED NEARLY
2 HOURS. SO, YOU KNOW, WE
DON'T KNOW WHAT HE DOESN'T
KNOW IF NOT DOUBT THAT EVEN ON
THINGS HE DOES NOW. HE WAS
PRETTY CLOSE. LIPSEY TOLD ME
THAT IVANKA TRUMP HAS NOT BEEN
ESPECIALLY CHATTING SO FAR.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE,
NEITHER WAS HE WAS SOME OF >> YOU CAN DRIVE OPERATE ING
>> YOU CAN DRIVE OPERATE ING
WHY SHE CAME IN THAT WE DID
NOT IT.
>> ON THAT QUESTION OF NEW
INSIGHT. I CAUGHT UP WITH
THOMPSON AGAIN AS HE WAS
LEAVING VOTES. HE TOLD ME THAT
HE HAD HEARD HIM WHILE HE WAS
IN THE ROOM. NOTHING
REGULATORY AS HE DESCRIBED IT.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE PUTTING
TOGETHER BITS AND PIECES OF
THE CONVERSATION THAT LAST 7
HOURS ALISO WILL THIS WAS
VOLUNTARY, RIGHT. SHE WAS NOT
THERE UNDER THREAT OF
SUBPOENA. THERE WAS LIKE A
VERY POLITE REQUEST MADE.
>> MONTHS AGO, THOUGH, GARRETT
BACK IN JANUARY.
>> IS IT TYPICAL THAT IT WOULD
TAKE THIS LONG FOR SOMEBODY TO
WORK OUT THE KINKS OF SHOWING
UP IN FRONT OF A COMMITTEE.
>> YES SHORT GETTING PEOPLE TO
SHOW UP IN A TIMELY FASHION
HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE ALL ALONG
THE WAY, WHETHER THEY BE LOWER
LEVEL AIDES, MANY OF WHOM YOU
KNOW, DIDN'T HAVE LAWYERS TO
HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.
DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO
PROCEED WITH EVEN SHOWING UP
BUT ALSO I'VE HAD I'VE
REPORTED AND WE HEARD FROM A
NUMBER OF THE WITNESSES ALONG
THE WAY THAT IN SOME CASES WE
MIGHT REPORT THAT A SUBPOENA
HAVE GONE OUT OF PARTICULAR
WITNESS HAD RECEIVED A
SUBPOENA AND THEY NATION
RECEIVED A SUBPOENA FOR
ANOTHER WEEK OR 2 OR PERHAPS
EVEN LONGER AFTER THAT I DON'T
MEAN MUCH OF ANYTHING THE ON
LOGISTICAL CHALLENGES INTO THE
DELAY FROM LATE JUST SHOWING
UP TODAY. BUT I DO THINK IT IS
VERY IMPORTANT THAT SHE SHOWED
UP VOLUNTARILY. IT'S A WAY TO
GET AROUND A SUBPOENA. IT'S A
WAY TO GET AROUND THE
POSSIBILITY OF BEING HELD IN
CONTEMPT LATER. EVEN YOU DON'T
ANSWER THE QUESTIONS JUST A
YEAR OF COOPERATE. CAN BOTH
PROTECT THESE WITNESSES AND,
YOU KNOW, KIND OF.
>> PERHAPS SIGNAL SOME DEGREE
OF IT.
>> COOPERATION THAT THEY'RE
REALLY GETTING ENGAGED TO THE
COMMITTEE IN SOME WAY, EVEN IF
WHAT THEY SAY ULTIMATELY ISN'T
AND WE DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S
DONE YET WITH THE DEAL IS YET
RECORD. I KNOW THE STATUS OF
PEOPLE NOW, IT HAPPENS BY
CYBER LOT IN THE ROOM. IT'S
BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WERE
STAKING OUT THE HALLWAYS, BUT
WE DON'T SEE MUCH.
>> BEHIND CLOSED DOORS LOCKED
OUT OF THE ROOM THEY'RE EVEN
USING NOISE MACHINES TO MAKE
SURE THE REPORTERS WHO DO GET
CLOSE CAN'T HEAR WHAT'S GOING
ON. BUT HALLE, AS SOON AS WE
NOW.
>> LET YOU GARRETT HAKE, THANK
YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE IT. IT'S
BEEN A MINUTE SINCE FORMER
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA HAS
BEEN AT THE WHITE HOUSE, BUT
HE WAS THERE JUST A COUPLE
HOURS AGO FOR THE VERY FIRST
TIME SINCE LEAVING OFFICE. YOU
SEE HIM THERE WALKING INTO THE
EAST ROOM AS YOU MIGHT
IMAGINE, VERY LOUD CHEERS. HE
WAS THERE PROMOTE SOME
EXPANSIONS TO THE AFFORDABLE
CARE ACT, THE LEGISLATION THAT
IS BASICALLY NAMED AFTER HIM.
RIGHT. A LOT OF PEOPLE CALL IT
OBAMACARE. HE WORKED ON THAT
WITH THE PRESIDENT BIDEN, THEN
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN 12 YEARS
AGO.
>> THROUGHOUT HISTORY. WHAT
YOU SEE IS. AND IT'S IMPORTANT
TO GET SOMETHING START THE
PLAN TO FLY TO LAY A
FOUNDATION FOR FURTHER
PROGRESS.
>> AND HE WAS THERE WHEN
PRESIDENT BIDEN, YOU'RE
LOOKING AT HERE SIGNED AN
EXECUTIVE ORDER TELLING
FEDERAL AGENCIES TO DO
EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO
GIVE MORE PEOPLE MORE ACCESS
TO AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE
ALITALIA'S. JOINING US NOW
ALI. THIS WAS LIKE A BIG WHITE
HOUSE MOMENT BECAUSE WE DON'T
SEE FORMER PRESIDENT OBAMA TOO
MUCH. HE DOESN'T SHOW UP FOR
ANYTHING AND WE KNOW IS REALLY
POPULAR WHEN NBC NEWS POLL
FROM TWENTY-TWENTY A 54%
POSITIVITY RATING. YOU HAVE TO
THINK THAT THE WHITE HOUSE
SAYS THE POLICY PIECE OF THIS
ON THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
BUT THERE'S THE POLITICAL BEES
ARE REALLY POPULAR. FORMER
PRESIDENT STANDING SHOULDER TO
SHOULDER WITH JOE BIDEN.
>> YEAH. I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU
BROUGHT IT UP THAT WAY BECAUSE
IT TRULY IS THE POLITICAL AND
THE POLICY HERE, YOU SAY IT'S
BEEN A MINUTE SINCE OBAMA HAS
BEEN AT THE WHITE HOUSE IT'S
BEEN YEARS. HE HAS NOT BEEN
BACK SINCE HE LEFT IN 2017. SO
THIS WAS IN MANY WAYS A
HOMECOMING. MANY OF THE STAFF
OR IN THIS WHITE HOUSE. ARE
PEOPLE WHO WORKED IN THE OBAMA
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION NOW
WORKING IN THE BIDEN HARRIS
ADMINISTRATION AND THAT
FAMILIARITY WAS PALPABLE
THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE EVENT.
IT WAS BOOKENDED WITH JOKES
AND OBAMA COMING IN AND RIGHT
FROM THE GETGO SAYING VICE
PRESIDENT BIDEN MAKING CLEAR
THAT THAT WAS PLANNED AND
STAGED BUT ALSO NOT INTO THE
FACT THAT THIS IS THEIR
SIGNATURE ACHIEVEMENT FROM
THEIR 8 YEARS IN OFFICE
TOGETHER. HE MADE OTHER JOKES
AT DIFFERENT POINTS ABOUT,
WELL, NOW ALL THE SECRET
SERVICE MEMBERS HAVE TO WEAR
AVIATORS. THE JOKES ALSO WENT
BOTH WAYS BECAUSE BIDEN
CONSISTENTLY MADE JOKES WITH
HIS FORMER PRESIDENT. AT ONE
POINT ENDING THE SPEECH
HARKENING BACK TO ONE OF THE
SOME HEADLINES FROM OVER 10
YEARS AGO WHEN VICE PRESIDENT
BIDEN SAID THAT PASSING
OBAMACARE WAS A BIG SOMETHING
DEAL. HE THEN SAID AT THE END
OF THE EVENT TODAY. HEY, JUST
SO YOU KNOW, MISTER, FORMER
PRESIDENT. THIS IS A HOT MIC
REFERENCING THAT. SO IT WAS
POLITICS AND POLICY, BUT IT
WAS ALSO LEVITY. AND I CAN
TELL YOU FROM WATCHING TWITTER
AND TALKING WITH SOURCES IN
MIND FOR DEMOCRATIC OPERATIVES
WHO SERVE IN THIS
ADMINISTRATION OR WHO WERE
AROUND WASHINGTON DURING IT.
THEY ALL TUNED IN SOME OF THEM
SAID, YOU KNOW, NEW DID MY TV
FOR THIS. SO IT FELT LIKE IT
WAS A HARKENING BACK AS MUCH
AS YOU KNOW, FOR THIS
ADMINISTRATION, IT SOME ON A
MORE SERIOUS NOTE HARKEN BACK
SO THAT THEY COULD TALK ABOUT
MAKING HEALTH CARE AFFORDABLE
FOR PEOPLE AND BUILDING ON THE
FORMER ADMINISTRATION. YOU
KNOW, YOU'RE GETTING A HIGH
BAR WHEN PEOPLE ARE A NEW
THING YOU KNOW, OUR AND OR WHO
YOU KNOW WELL IN OUR WHITE
HOUSE UNIT WAS ABLE TO GET A
QUESTION IN 2 FORMER PRESIDENT
OBAMA SPECIFICALLY ABOUT ALI,
THE POLITICAL PIECE THAT
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE
LOOKING AHEAD TO THE MIDTERMS.
I WANT TO PLAY JUST A SECOND
OF THAT EXCHANGE WAS ONLY
PRETTY SHORT WATCH.
>> WHAT IT TELLS DEMOCRATS
WORRY ABOUT THE TERMS. WE GOT
A STORY TELL.
>> I MEAN, THAT'S THE MESSAGE
FROM THE FORMER PRESIDENT
RIGHT THERE. HE IS SOMEBODY
WHO COULD BE A POWERFUL ASSET
BASED ON AGAIN. THOSE POPULAR
NUMBERS FOR DEMOCRATS WHO ARE
FACING A BIT OF AN UPHILL
BATTLE WHEN IT COMES TO
KEEPING CONTROL OF CONGRESS.
ALI.
>> YEAH, THAT'S A 100% RATE.
AND THE IDEA WE HAVE A STORY
TO TELL. WE JUST HAVE TO TELL
IT THAT FITS WITH WHAT WE
KNOW. THE FORMER PRESIDENT IS
THINKING ABOUT THIS CURRENT
MOMENT INFORMING THE WHITE
HOUSE IS THINKING IN NARRATIVE
AROUND EMPATHY BECAUSE WE KNOW
FROM OUR NBC NEWS POLL THAT
THE THING THAT AMERICANS ARE
THINKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW
HEADING INTO THE MIDTERMS IS
THE BOTTOM LINE, WHAT ARE THEY
PAYING FOR COST OF LIVING.
WHAT ARE THEY PAYING AT THE
GAS PUMP. WHAT ARE THEY PAYING
FOR HEALTH CARE. HEALTH CARE
HAS BEEN SUCH A POWERFUL
ISSUE. A GALVANIZING ONE FOR
DEMOCRATS. THINK ABOUT 2018.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE KEY
NARRATIVE. CERTAINLY THIS
WHITE HOUSE, THIS
ADMINISTRATION AND THIS
CONGRESS WOULD LOVE TO RUN ON
SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AGAIN
TRYING TO BAT BACK WHAT
REPUBLICANS ARE SAYING ABOUT
INFLATION ECONOMICS WITH THEIR
OWN MESSAGE ON HEALTH CARE AND
OTHER KEY ISSUES ALLEY VITALE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
APPRECIATE IT. GOOD TO SEE
YOU.
>> STICK WITH NEWS OUT OF THE
WHITE HOUSE AND NEWS COMING
INTO US JUST IN THE LAST
LITTLE BIT ACTUALLY, IF YOU'VE
GOT FEDERAL STUDENT LOANS.
GUESS WHAT, YOU GOT A LITTLE
BIT MORE TIME TO SAVE UP
BEFORE YOU HAVE TO MAKE YOUR
NEXT PAYMENT. SOURCES ARE
TELLING CNBC NEWS THAT THE
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IS
PLANNING TO EXTEND THIS PAUSE
ON PAYMENTS UNTIL THE END OF
AUGUST. THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO
PICK BACK UP AT THE END NEXT
MONTH. THIS WILL BE THE 6TH
EXTENSION.
>> FOR BORROWERS OF STUDENT
LOANS THAT STARTED WITH THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IN THE
BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC.
MARK MURRAY IS JOINING ME NOW
TO TALK ABOUT THIS MARK WEEK.
I THINK IT'S HARD TO OVERSTATE
HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS TO SO
MANY PEOPLE BECAUSE SO MANY
AMERICANS.
>> HAVE BIG STUDENT LOAN DEBT.
IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM. IT'S A
HUGE PROBLEM. AS YOU MENTION
THESE KIND OF CARS ACTUALLY
DATE BACK TO THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION GOING BACK
RELATED. RIGHT AND THE
ARGUMENT THAT YOU END UP
HEARING FROM PEOPLE IS AT A
TIME IS STILL AN ONGOING
PANDEMIC. WHEN YOU HAVE RISING
INFLATION, SUPPLY CHAIN
ISSUES. WHY WOULD YOU ASK
PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY
BURDENED WITH DEBT TO START A
HANG-UP RIGHT NOW. NOW THE
CRITICS, THE CRITICS WOULD END
UP SAYING, WELL, GOT A POINT
RATE IS NOW 3.6%. THIS ENDS A
JUICY INGER OVER JUICING THE
ECONOMY, WHICH IS PRODUCING
INFLATION. THIS IS HARMFUL TO
BARS. BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE
SEEING BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
SAYING, HEY, WE'RE GOING AT
LEAST EXTEND THIS PAUSE FOR A
LITTLE WHILE LONGER AS WE
CLOSE AS MIDTERM ELECTIONS.
SOAP OF THIS, THOUGH, 10'S OF
MILLIONS OF AMERICANS. IF
YOU'RE WATCHING NOW AND YOU
STUDENT LOAN DEBT FEDERALLY. I
BET YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WHO
DOES. YEAH. AND AGAIN ON THE
POLITICS CHI HOW AND THERE'S A
REALLY BIG POLITICAL COMPONENT
ON ALL OF THIS. AND THAT IS
YOUNGER PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE
WHO ARE HAVING TO DEAL WITH
THE STUDENT LOAN PAYMENTS.
THEY'RE NOT. THEY DON'T SEE
THE PRESIDENT IN A VERY
POPULAR LIGHT RIGHT NOW. HOW
JOE BIDEN'S APPROVAL RATING.
AMONG THOSE 18 TO 34 NBC NEWS
POLL. IT'S JUST THAT 42% ALSO
YOUNG AMERICANS 18 TO 34
YEAR-OLD VOTERS ARE SOME OF
THE MOST LEAST LIKELY TO BE
ABLE TO VOTE. JUST 28% SAID
THAT THEY'RE VERY ENTHUSIASTIC
ABOUT VOTING IN THE UPCOMING
MIDTERM ELECTIONS. THE
DEMOCRATIC SUCCESSES, GETTING
THOSE PEOPLE EXCITED AND
GIVING THEM A REASON TO COME
AND VOTE. SOME DEMOCRATS WANT
TO GO EVEN FURTHER THAT I'VE
TALKED TO, SOME OF THEM WHO
SAY, HEY, LET'S CANCEL SOME OF
THE STUDENT LOAN DEBT
ALTOGETHER PERMANENTLY RIGHT
LEG WIPED OFF THE BOOKS. THE
WHITE HOUSE HAS BEEN HESITANT
TO CROSS THAT LINE SO FAR ANY
INDICATIONS THAT THAT SORT
PRESSURE CAMPAIGN FROM SOME
QUARTERS THAT'S BEEN
SIMMERING, RIGHT. NOT AT A
FEVER PITCH YET. IT SEEMS TO
BE WORKING. AND I'M GLAD YOU
DISTINGUISH WITH THE ACTION
BETWEEN THE CURRENT PAUSE FOR
SAYS THAT FOR GIVING US IN 2
DIFFERENT THINGS. RIGHT. AND
JOE BIDEN DURING THE 2020
PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY RACE
SAID, HEY, I'M CONSIDERING
ACTUALLY FOR GIVING UP TO
$10,000 IN STUDENT DEBT.
PEOPLE LIKE ELIZABETH WARREN
WANT TO GO MUCH FURTHER ABOUT
$50,000 AND WHEN YOU'RE IN
THAT SAYING THE THINKING FROM
THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IS
BEFORE THEY WANT PEOPLE START
PAYING THEIR PAYMENTS BACK
AGAIN AND THEY WANT TO IN THIS
PAUSE. THEY WANT TO HAVE A
BETTER THING TO ACTUALLY SAY.
ALL RIGHT. HERE'S WHAT WE'RE
ACTUALLY GOING TO DO WHEN IT
COMES STUDENT LOANS. NOW THE
PROGRESS IS THINK THAT HE
COULD PRESIDENT BIDEN CAN TAKE
EXECUTIVE ACTION TO DO SOME OF
THIS. OTHER PEOPLE ACTUALLY
SAY YOU'RE ACTUALLY NEED
CONGRESS TO PASS SOMETHING TO
GET TO THAT AND THAT CONGRESS
AND GETTING THOSE VOTES
PARTICULAR UNITED STATES
SENATE IS TRICKY BUSINESS
ASHLEY COUSIN EXECUTIVE ACTION
CAN BE ROLLED BACK POTENTIALLY
OR COULD ACTUALLY PEOPLE CAN
FILE LAWSUITS SAY THIS NOT
IT'S NOT CONSTITUTIONAL. MARK.
MARK, GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US
IN THAT PIECE. DEVELOPING
NEWS. THANK YOU. THANKS SOME
17 MILLION PEOPLE IN THIS
COUNTRY IN THE SOUTHEAST ARE
STUCK IN THE PATH OF MORE
SEVERE STORMS TONIGHT WE'RE
TRACKING REPORTS OF UP TO 13
13 TORNADOES IN 4 DIFFERENT
STATES. LOOK AT THIS FROM
ALABAMA. YOU GOT SOME OF THESE
OLD STRUCTURES BUILDINGS
FLATTENED. LOOK AT THAT CAR
FLIPPED OVER PARTS OF GEORGIA
AND FLORIDA RIGHT NOW ARE
UNDER A TORNADO WATCH THAT'S
GOING TO LAST FOR A COUPLE
MORE HOURS.
>> ALABAMA IS ALSO GETTING
SLAMMED WITH RAIN HAIL COMING
DOWN LIKE. SNOW. AND LOOK AT
THIS FLOODED STREETS, FOLKS
DON'T TRY TO DRIVE YOUR CAR
THROUGH A FLOODED STREET,
RIGHT. THAT'S KIND OF ONE. OH
ONE. BUT IT GOT REALLY BAD.
>> IN THE SOUTH. PEOPLE IN
TEXAS. THEY'RE PICKING UP THE
PIECES. THEY'RE TRYING TO DRY
OUT AFTER WINDS TORE ROOFS OFF
BUILDINGS AND YOU SAW SOME OF
THOSE SAME FLOODED STREETS.
THE STORM IS STILL MOVING,
THOUGH. IT'S HITTING THE
SOUTHEAST AGAIN. TOMORROW.
29 MILLION PEOPLE IN THAT PATH
FROM ALABAMA TO SOUTH CAROLINA
AND FLORIDA. JOINING ME NOW IS
OUR OQUIRRH. THIS FEELS LIKE A
HUGE AND FAIRLY SLOW-MOVING
STORM OUT THAT SWEAT CAN FOLKS
DOWN SOUTH TODAY AND INTO
TOMORROW.
>> THAT'S RIGHT, ALI. AND IN
FACT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT
RIGHT NOW. A VERY, VERY
VOLATILE SITUATION. WE HAVE
TORNADO WATCHES EXTENDING ALL
THE WAY INTO GEORGIA PARTS OF
THE CAROLINAS. BUT THESE AREAS
IN RED. THIS. WE ARE LOOKING
AT TORNADO WARNINGS NOW
ALLENDALE NEAR ALLENDALE DOWN
JUST TO THE WEST OF SAVANNAH.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BE WATCHING
THIS ALL NIGHT LONG AS THE
SYSTEM STARTS TO PUSH THROUGH.
SO HERE'S THE RISK AREA.
17 MILLION PEOPLE AT RISK
TONIGHT, LONG SWATH WIND
DAMAGE POSSIBLE QUARTER. SIZE
HAIL OR LARGER. BUT HERE'S THE
BIG PROBLEM. A RISK FOR EF 2
OR HIGHER TORNADOES STRETCHING
ACROSS SOUTHERN ALABAMA
GEORGIA ON INTO SOUTH
CAROLINA. NOW THIS IS EXTENDED
FROM EARLIER THIS MORNING.
TOMORROW, 30 MILLION PEOPLE AT
RISK FOR DAMAGING WIND GUSTS
TORNADOES POSSIBLE. LOOK AT
THE CITIES THAT ARE INVOLVED
MAKING ATLANTA JUST TO THE
WEST OF AUGUSTA. BUT ALL THE
WAY DOWN. HE HAD A RISK, A
SLIGHT RISK TO TALLAHASSEE
SYSTEM PUSHES THROUGH
OVERNIGHT TONIGHT PUSHES OFF
THE SOUTHEASTERN COAST
TONIGHT. SOAKING RAIN MOVES UP
HERE INTO THE NORTHEAST TO 3
INCHES POSSIBLE BY LATE
TOMORROW MORNING. THEN
TOMORROW THIS COLD FRONT
ADVANCES INTO THE SOUTHEAST.
NEW ROUNDS OF STORMS FROM OHIO
ALL THE WAY DOWN TO FLORIDA.
GROUNDS ALREADY SATURATED,
ALI. SO WE COULD BE LOOKING.
AND AGAIN, SOME MORE FLOODING
THE SEVERE THREAT WILL BE FOR
THE CARE OF NORTH CAROLINA ON
INTO VIRGINIA, MORE HEAVY RAIN
MOVES INTO THE NORTHEAST AND
NEW ENGLAND. AND SO WE COULD
BE LOOKING AT SOME FLOODING
AND WE DO HAVE A SEVERE A
SEVERE THREAT FOR COASTAL
CAROLINAS AS WE MOVE THROUGH
ON THURSDAY, AS THAT SECOND
SYSTEM MOVES OUT. THE GOOD
NEWS IS A LOW TORNADO THREAT.
THE HEAVIEST RAIN GOING TO BE
ALONG THE NORTHERN TIER OF
FLORIDA THAT NORTHERN GEORGIA
THAT THE SOUTHERN GEORGIA
NORTHERN FLORIDA BORDER UP TO
5 INCHES OF RAIN POSSIBLE AND
HERE IN THE NORTHEAST THROUGH
THURSDAY ANYWHERE FROM ONE TO
3 INCHES OF RAIN. SO ALI,
WE'VE GOT A LOT GOING ON IN
THE NEXT 72 HOURS. AND BY THE
WAY. THE LONG-RANGE MODELS ARE
EXPECTING OUR ARTSY HINTING
THAT WE COULD BE LOOKING AT
THIS AGAIN ON MONDAY, TUESDAY,
MAYBE EVEN INTO WEDNESDAY OF
NEXT WEEK. THAT WILL BE THE
4TH BIG STORM AND THAT OF 4
WEEKS OUT. YEAH. YEAH. IT'S
IT'S LIKE GROUND-UP BAD
VERSION OF GROUND TO 100%.
>> OUR OQUIRRH I KNOW YOU'LL
BE MONITORING IT ALL FOR US.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE RIGHT BEFORE WE
CAME ON AIR, I WAS LOOKING
INTO THE STUDIO. WE FOUND OUT
ABOUT ANOTHER ARREST AND THAT
SACRAMENTO MASS SHOOTING THAT
LEFT 6 PEOPLE DEAD AND 12
PEOPLE HURT.
>> POLICE SAY THEY'VE NOW
ARRESTED 2 NEW SUSPECTS JUST
TODAY, 2 MORE SUSPECTS
DETECTIVES SAYING THEY'VE
CHARGED DAY BEYOND DAWSON WITH
BEING, QUOTE, A PROHIBITED
PERSON IN POSSESSION OF A
FIREARM. THAT'S THEIR
LANGUAGE.
>> RIGHT NOW. DAWSON IS NOT
CHARGED WITH CRIMES DIRECTLY
RELATED TO THE SHOOTING
EARLIER TODAY. THEY ARRESTED
SMILEY MARTIN WHO WAS FOUND AT
THE SCENE SUNDAY MORNING WITH.
INJURIES RIGHT. THAT HURT FROM
THE SHOOTING TAKEN TO THE
HOSPITAL. MARTIN IS ACTUALLY
THE BROTHER OF THE FIRST
SUSPECT DEANDRE MARTIN WHO IS
APPEARING IN COURT TODAY. THE
ARREST COMING AFTER SUNDAY'S
SHOOTING AT A BUSY DOWNTOWN
AREA. OFFICIALS THINK THAT
MULTIPLE SHOOTERS OPENED FIRE
AFTER SOME KIND OF BIG FIGHT
CLUB IN A GUST HAS BEEN
FOLLOWING THIS STORY AND JOINS
US NOW. SO WHAT WE NOW HAVE 3
SEPARATE ARRESTS MADE IN THE
BROADER INVESTIGATION AROUND
THE SHOOTING. BRING US UP TO
SPEED ON WHAT ELSE WE SHOULD
KNOW.
>> WELL, ALI, WE HAVE MORE
INFORMATION, OF COURSE, OF THE
A SMILEY MARTIN, THE BROTHER
OF THE FIRST SUSPECT THAT WAS
ARRESTED. AS YOU MENTIONED, HE
WAS INJURED. HE WAS ONE OF
THOSE INJURED THE NIGHT OF THE
SHOOTING WAS TAKEN TO HOSPITAL
WITH SERIOUS INJURIES AND THE
POLICE SAY THEY QUICKLY
IDENTIFIED HIM AS A PERSON OF
INTEREST. AND THAT'S WHY AN
OFFICER HAD BEEN WITH HIM AT
THE HOSPITAL UNTIL NOW. AND
THEY'VE DECIDED TO CHARGE HIM.
THEY'RE CHARGING HIM WITH
POSSESSION OF A FIREARM BY A
PROHIBITED PERSON ALSO WITH
POSSESSION OF A MACHINE NOW,
WE'VE ALSO LEARNED THAT HE HAS
BEEN CONVICTED OF DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE IN THE PAST AND THE
FACT THAT HE WAS SENTENCED TO
10 YEARS IN PRISON OF WHICH HE
ONLY SERVED 3 DESPITE THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE,
THE DA'S OFFICE BEING AGAINST
THEY HAD WRITTEN A LETTER
SAYING THAT BECAUSE HE HAD
VIOLENT HISTORY. HE SHOULD NOT
HAVE BEEN RELEASED EARLY, BUT
HE WAS RELEASED EARLY LAST
YEAR AND NOW HE IS ONE OF THE
SHOT 3 ARRESTED AND THE CASE.
HOLLY, THE WORST MASS SHOOTING
IN THIS COUNTRY SO FAR THIS
YEAR QUITE EVEN TALKING WITH
FOLKS WHO LIVE IN AND AROUND
THIS AREA ABOUT HEATHER
HEATHER DEALING WITH ALL THIS.
RIGHT. YES, THERE WAS A VIGIL
LAST NIGHT WITH FAMILY MEMBERS
AND FRIENDS OF THE VICTIM. SO,
YOU KNOW, THIS HAPPENED IN A
VERY BUSY PART OF THAT
DOWNTOWN SACRAMENTO. AND YOU
KNOW, PEOPLE KEEP SAYING HOW
IT'S JUST CRAZY THAT IT
HAPPENED RIGHT NEXT TO THE
STATE CAPITOL BUILDING HERE
AND AND DOWNTOWN AND A LOT OF
THE PEOPLE KEEP SAYING THAT
THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE
POLICE PRESENCE. I MEAN, THAT
I'VE BEEN SPEAKING TO
ACTIVISTS WHO TELL ME THAT
THOSE SOMETIMES WHEN THE
PEOPLE GET OUT OF THESE CLOUDS
IN THESE FIGHTS BREAK OUT.
THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH POLICE
TO BREAK THEM OUT. WE KNOW
THAT THERE'S THESE VIDEOS AND
SOCIAL MEDIA THAT SHOW A FIGHT
THAT BROKE OUT THAT WE DON'T
KNOW IF THAT FIGHT WAS RELATED
TO THE SHOOTING. BUT WE HAVE
HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC. HERE IS
THAT THESE FIGHTS ARE VERY
COMMON IN THIS AREA AT THAT
HOUR WHEN A LOT OF THESE BARS
USUALLY CLOSED ON THE WEEKEND.
SO THEY'RE NOT SURPRISED THAT
SOMETHING A VIOLENT. WHAT
HAPPEN. BUT THEY ARE SURPRISED
IT WAS A MASS SHOOTING OF THIS
MAGNITUDE.
>> WHY U.S. LIVE FOR US THERE
IN SACRAMENTO. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR BRINGING US THE
LATEST ON THAT. WHITE HOUSE
COVID RESPONSE TEAMS TODAY
SAYS IT'S FOCUSING ON A PLAN
TO UNDERSTAND AND TREAT LONG
COVID CONDITIONS ARE SYMPTOMS
THAT SOME PEOPLE WHO ALREADY
GOT THE VIRUS MIGHT STILL BE
FEELING. MAYBE, YOU KNOW
SOMEBODY WHO IS STRUGGLING
WITH LONG COVID A NATIONAL
RESEARCH TEAM NOW PLANS TO
CITY 40,000 PEOPLE TO LOOK AT
HOW THEY'VE BEEN MONTHS AFTER
THEY GOT THE VIRUS.
>> AND TODAY THE CDC IS ALSO
LAYING OUT WHO SHOULD AND
SHOULD NOT GET A 4TH SHOT. THE
AGENCY'S DIRECTOR TALKING
EXCLUSIVELY YOU SEE HERE WITH
OUR OWN ERICA EDWARDS FOR THE
FIRST TIME SINCE THE CDC
RECOMMENDED A SECOND BOOSTER
FOR ADULTS AGES 50 AND UP.
DOCTOR ROCHELLE WALENSKY
SAYING THERE'S NO DOWNSIDE TO
GETTING ANOTHER SHOT AND THAT
OMICRON COUNTS IS A NATURAL
BOOST FOR THE VACCINATED.
LISTEN.
>> FOR THOSE PEOPLE, EVEN WITH
HIGH CONDITIONS OVER THE AGE
OF 65. IF YOU RECENTLY HAD
OMICRON THAT PROBABLY SERVED
AS YOUR NATURAL BOOST. SO YOU
PROBABLY DON'T NEED ONE
BECAUSE YOU JUST RECENTLY HAD
YOURSELF A NATURAL IN THOSE
SITUATIONS. YOU MAY WANT TO
WAIT 2 OR 3, 3, OR 4 MONTHS
BEFORE YOU GET ANOTHER. ERIKA
EDWARDS IS JOINING US NOW
ERIC. A GREAT INTERVIEW WITH
DOCTOR WALENSKY, GREAT
EXCLUSIVE. WHAT ELSE DID SHE
TELL YOU. YES. SO IN ADDITION
TO OMICRON BEING SORT OF THAT
NATURAL BOOST FOR OTHERWISE.
FOR PEOPLE WHO OTHERWISE ARE
UP TO DATE ON THEIR COVID
VACCINES. SHE ALSO CLARIFIED
THAT PEOPLE HEALTHY PEOPLE
BETWEEN THE AGES OF 5065 WHO
TECHNICALLY, QUOTE, QUALIFY
FOR THAT SECOND BOOSTER MAY
NOT ACTUALLY NEED ONE,
ESPECIALLY AS COVID CASES
HOSPITALIZATIONS AND DEATHS
CONTINUE TO FALL ACROSS MOST
OF THE DOCTOR WALENSKY ALSO
SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT
STEP FOR HER AND OTHER PUBLIC
HEALTH OFFICIALS IT'S REALLY
KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT'S
GOING TO HAPPEN THIS FALL.
WILL WE NEED.
>> SINCE SHOT A'S 3RD BOOSTER.
WHAT EVERYONE AND THIS POINT.
HERE'S WHAT HE HAD TO SAY.
>> YOU KNOW, THE NEXT STEP IS
WE AT CDC AND THE FDA ARE
GOING TO BE PUTTING OUR HEADS
TOGETHER, AS NEVER PASSED
MEETING TOMORROW ACTUALLY AND
AND CONTINUE TO ENGAGE IN
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT THE
NEXT PHASE OF THIS LOOKS LIKE
WHAT WILL THE NEXT VACCINE BE
HOW WE PREPARE FOR THE FUTURE
AND WHAT WILL THE FALL LOOK
LIKE.
>> NOW. SHE ALSO SAID THERE'S
NO DANGER THERE'S NO KNOWN
SIDE EFFECT OR RISK. IF YOU
WANT TO GET A BOOSTER NOW.
PLUS POTENTIALLY ANOTHER ONE
IN THE FALL SHOULD ONE BECOME
AVAILABLE HALEIGH. LET ME ASK
YOU ABOUT THIS. THIS DEEPER
LOOK INTO LONG COVID. WE KNOW
THE NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF
HEALTH STARTED LOOKING INTO
THIS LAST FALL. WHY ARE WE
BACK ON THIS NOW. WELL, IN
PART TO LIGHT A FIRE UNDER
THIS SLUGGISH BILLION DOLLARS
STUDY THAT WAS ANNOUNCED BY
NIH ACTUALLY IN FEBRUARY OF
2021 TO 18 TO ENROLL 20,000
LONG COVID PATIENTS. WHEN I
CHECKED IN A YEAR LATER THIS
PAST FEBRUARY, THE STUDY HAD
ONLY ENROLL JUST OVER 1000
PATIENTS ALLOW. NOW TODAY'S
ACTIONS ARE EXPECTED TO
ACCELERATE THAT IN A MOMENT.
ACTUALLY INCREASE IT TO 40,000
PATIENTS. BEFORE I LET YOU GO,
I KNOW THE DOCTOR TALKED ABOUT
OR IS GETTING A LOT OF
QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THIS
REVAMP OF THIS AGENCY WOULD
LOOK LIKE SHE DID TALK WITH
SHE SHE I KNOW IS FACING
QUESTIONS ON THAT HERE. WE
DON'T KNOW WITH HIS REVAMPED
LOOKS LIKE YET, RIGHT. WHAT
SHOULD WE BE KEEPING AN EYE ON
OUR RADAR FOR. YES, IT GOING
TO BE A MONTH LONG REVIEW LED
BY SENIOR MEMBER LONGTIME
MEMBER OF THE IT'S GOING TO BE
A MULTI-LAYERED APPROACH TO
THIS KIND OF REVIEW IN PART TO
TRY TO MODERNIZE ITS DATA
COLLECTION PROCESS, THE DATA
THAT IT'S GETTING FROM STATE
HEALTH DEPARTMENTS. I REMEMBER
EARLY ON IN THE PANDEMIC
TRYING TO GET NUMBERS,
ESPECIALLY FROM THE STATE WAS
DIFFICULT IS A LOT OF TIMES
THEY WERE STILL USING PEN AND
OTHERWISE THEY JUST WANT TO
WORK ON CREATING FASTER
RESPONSES.
>> TO FUTURE OUTBREAKS AS WELL
AS PROVIDING MORE CLEAR
COMMUNICATION FROM PUBLIC
HEALTH OFFICIALS ON THEIR
RECOMMENDATIONS. THAT REVIEW
IS EXPECTED TO START NEXT
MONDAY THE 11TH ERIKA EDWARDS,
GREAT TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING US THAT
REPORTING CREATE IT.
FROM CHARLES DARWIN. FAMOUSLY
MET WENT MISSING.
>> THEY'RE NOW BEEN
MYSTERIOUSLY RETURNED WITH A
LOOK AT THE CLUES TO THIS VERY
INTERESTING PUZZLE COMING UP.
BUT FIRST IN JUST THE LAST
COUPLE HOURS, OKLAHOMA TOOK A
BIG STEP THAT WOULD MAKE
NEARLY ALL ABORTIONS ILLEGAL
IN THAT STATE. THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES APPROVING A
BILL. THE SENATE ALREADY
PASSED RIGHT. SENDING IT TO
THE GOVERNOR'S DESK MAKING
PERFORMING AN ABORTION, A
FELONY PUNISHABLE BY UP TO 10
YEARS IN PRISON. OKLAHOMA'S
REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR HAS SAID
HE'LL SIGN ANY ANTI ABORTION
BILL THAT COMES ACROSS HIS
DESK. SO PRESUMABLY THAT MEANS
THIS ONE. IT COMES AS OKLAHOMA
SEEING A LOT OF WOMEN FROM
TEXAS RIGHT NEARBY TRYING TO
GET ABORTIONS. THERE AFTER
TEXAS PASSED ITS OWN BILL THAT
BANS ABORTIONS AFTER ABOUT 6
WEEKS. TO PUT IT INTO
PERSPECTIVE IN THE MONTHS
AFTER THAT, TEXAS BILL WENT
INTO EFFECT MORE THAN 5500
TEXAS WOMEN LEFT THE STATE TO
GET AN ABORTION AND ABOUT HALF
OF THEM WENT TO OKLAHOMA.
JOINING ME NOW IS MORE BARRETT
IN OKLAHOMA CITY AND MOORE.
THIS IS JUST ONE OF SEVERAL
ANTI-ABORTION BILLS AT THE
OKLAHOMA STATE LEGISLATURE IS
CONSIDERING THAT ARE REALLY
MAKING WAVES ON THE NATIONAL
LEVEL.
>> YEAH, HOLLY, THEIR 7 OF TO
BE EXACT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE
HAD A BROADER SCALE ACROSS THE
COUNTRY'S 28 STATES HAVE
INTRODUCED 71 BILLS LOOKING TO
RESTRICT ABORTION ACCESS. SO
THIS WILL PROBABLY NOT BE THE
LAST TIME WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
THIS, BUT IT'S SAFE TO SAY
TODAY'S BILL PASSING THROUGH
THE STATE HOUSE CAME AS A
SURPRISE. THERE WAS A RALLY
PLANNED AT THE STATE HOUSE
THAT WE WERE COVERING EARLIER
TODAY AGAINST ONE OF THE OTHER
BILLS THAT ALREADY MADE IT
THROUGH THE HOUSE AND WAS
LOOKING TO TO PROGRESS AND
WOMEN TELLING ME THAT THEY
WERE REALLY FRUSTRATED THAT
THERE ARE SO BILLS GOING
THROUGH. THEY THEY'RE SAYING
THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE HAD
THIS PROTECTION ALMOST THEIR
ENTIRE THEIR ENTIRE LIFE FOR
MOST WOMEN AND THEY'RE JUST
WATCHING THEIR RIGHTS BEING
STRIPPED AWAY IN REAL TIME.
AND THEN THEY TOLD AT THE
RALLY THAT THEY HEARD JUST
YESTERDAY BEFORE THE RALLY WAS
PLANNED THAT THE STATE HOUSE
WOULD BE HEARING THIS NEW
RESTRICTIVE BILL TODAY. AND
LIKE YOU SAID, ONCE IT'S
SIGNED, IT IS SET TO GO INTO
EFFECT THIS SUMMER, WHICH
WOULD BE AT ABOUT THE SAME
TIME THAT THE SUPREME COURT IS
A CASE AROUND WHAT WHAT COULD
OVERTURN ROE V WADE. THAT IS
WHAT IS PROTECTING WOMEN PLACE
RIGHT NOW. WE'LL TALK MORE
ABOUT THAT. WE SHOULDN'T TO AN
OKLAHOMA. YOU KNOW, THESE ARE
THIS IS A REPUBLICAN BACKED
PUSH IRAN. THESE ANTIABORTION
LAWS. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE
SUPREME COURT.
>> TAKING IT SET TO TAKE UP
THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE TO ROE
VERSUS WADE. YET FROM FROM
MISSISSIPPI SOME PROVIDERS
YOU'VE TALKED TO SAY THEY FEEL
LIKE THEY'RE ALREADY LIVING IN
A POST ROH WORLD GIVEN SOME OF
WHAT WE'RE SEEING ACROSS THE
COUNTRY IN THESE RESTRICTIONS
TO ACCESS TO ABORTIONS.
>> WELL, THE BIGGEST EFFECT OF
THAT. HALLE HAS BEEN WHAT WE
SAW HAPPEN IN TEXAS BACK IN
SEPTEMBER. JUST IN THE LAST 6
TO 7 MONTHS THAT TRAFFIC FROM
TEXAS TO OKLAHOMA HAS BEEN SO
OVERWHELMING FOR CLINICS HERE.
THEY'VE SEEN SUCH AN INTENSE
INCREASE THAT THEY'RE NOT EVEN
ABLE TO SERVE OKLAHOMA
PATIENTS THAT ARE LOOKING FOR
A PORTION. THOSE PATIENTS
ACTUALLY GOING TO KANSAS. I
WANT TO HEAR SOMETHING THAT WE
TALKED ABOUT WITH ONE OF THE
CLINIC PROVIDERS HERE WHO SAID
THAT THEY'RE JUST SEEING WAY
TOO MUCH CAPACITY RIGHT NOW.
>> WE'VE HAD ADJUST OUR PHONE
SYSTEMS ADJUST HOW WE SCHEDULE
PEOPLE ADJUST OUR PATIENT CAPS
AND ALSO REALLY PACER SOUTH'S
FOR SUSTAINABILITY LIKE WE
COULD TRULY BE PROVIDING
ABORTIONS. 24 HOURS A DAY AND
NOT MEET THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE
WHO ALREADY ACCESS OUR PLANET.
>> SO THIS JUST EXEMPLIFIES
THE RIPPLE EFFECT THAT WE
COULD SEE IF MORE STATES PASS
SIMILAR ABORTION RESTRICTIONS.
ONE STATE, COLORADO JUST
YESTERDAY, THOUGH, PUTTING
INTO A BILL INTO EFFECT THAT
WOULD PROTECT THE RIGHT FOR
ABORTION. SO PEOPLE WHO ARE
LEAVING SOME PERSPECTIVE
STATES DO HAVE SOMEWHERE TO
GO. ALI MORE OF THEIR LIVE FOR
US THERE IN OKLAHOMA CITY,
MOORE. THANK YOU REPUBLICAN
LAWMAKER WHO VOTED TO IMPEACH
DONALD TRUMP OVER HIS ROLE IN
THE JANUARY 6 ATTACK IS NOW
SAYING TODAY HE WILL NOT BE
RUNNING FOR REELECTION. WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT MICHIGAN
CONGRESSMAN FRED UPTON. HE'S
ONE OF 10 HOUSE REPUBLICANS
WHO VOTED TO IMPEACH THE
FORMER PRESIDENT. AND NOW
BECOMES THE FORCE IN THAT
GROUP TO SAY HE'S GOING TO BE
RETIRING BEFORE THE MIDTERMS.
OUR OWN BOND HILL. YOU'RE
TALKED EXCLUSIVELY WITH UPTON
JUST DAYS BEFORE HE'S MAKING
THIS ANNOUNCEMENT IN AN
INTERVIEW YOU WILL ONLY SEE ON
NBC WATCH.
>> IS TRUMP A FACTOR INJURED
DECISION WHETHER TO
POTENTIALLY NOT RUN FOR
CONGRESS AGAIN. IT IS A LITTLE
BIT IN THAT. SOME OF THE FOLKS
HERE.
>> ARE SO BEHOLDEN TO THEY
DON'T ACCEPT THOSE OF US THAT
ARE WITHIN THE WHEN YOU SAY
TRUMP IS A LITTLE PART OF
THAT. WHAT LITTLE PART OF THAT
IS. IS IT THE DISSENT AND A
NUMBERS ABLE THAT NUMBER OF
PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME TO ME.
COLLEAGUES AND FRED, YOU CAN'T
BECAUSE THEN TRUMP MIGHT THINK
THAT HE PUSH YET.
>> RON HILL, YOU'RE JUST
JOINING US NOW FOR MORE ON
THIS AND LAWN. WHAT YOU JUST
HEARD FROM CONGRESSMAN UPTON
THERE. RIGHT. SEEMS TO BE
PLAYING OUT IN REALITY BECAUSE
YOU HAVE THE FORMER PRESIDENT.
I'M PUTTING OUT A STATEMENT
SAYING 6 TO GO. OTHERS LOSING
BADLY.
>> RIGHT. YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST
IN WASHINGTON THE OTHER DAY
WHEN I MET WITH U N
CONGRESSMAN UPTON THERE. WE
HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT
WHAT DOES THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
LOOK LIKE HERE IN THE REST OF
2022 ESPECIALLY AS THESE
PRIMARIES ARE WEEKS, MONTHS
AWAY, INCLUDING THIS ONE. AND
I ASKED CONGRESSMAN UPTON WHO
HAS BEEN A CONGRESSMAN FOR
MORE THAN 3 DECADES
REPRESENTING MICHIGAN, THE
EXTENT TO WHICH TRUMP WAS A
FACTOR IN WHETHER HE WOULD
DECIDE TO ULTIMATELY RUN AGAIN
OR RETIRE. HE SAID TRUMP'S
PRESENCE HE TOLD ME IT MADE IT
MORE LIKELY THAT HE WAS GOING
TO RUN FOR REELECTION. BUT
BASED OFF OF HIS ANNOUNCEMENT
HERE JUST THIS MORNING.
CLEARLY IT WASN'T ENOUGH IN
THE VERY REAL FACTOR IN THIS
WAS THAT HE WAS FACING A
TRUMP. THAT'S RIGHT. A
CHALLENGER IN THIS RACE AND
HE'S NOT THE ONLY RIGHT,
RIGHT. I MEAN, THERE ARE AS
YOU AS YOU TALK ABOUT AS YOU
WELL KNOW, VAUGHN, FROM YOUR
COVERAGE ON THIS BEAT THERE
ARE A HALF A DOZEN OTHER
PEOPLE WHO VOTED TO IMPEACH.
>> THE FORMER PRESIDENT. I'M
LOOKING AT REELECTION IN
PLACES WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO
BE FACING THESE THESE PRIMARY
CHALLENGES. WHAT ARE THE
STAKES HERE. RIGHT. I MEAN,
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IF YOU
LOOK AT JUST THE HOUSE HERE.
EVERYBODY IS UP FOR REELECTION
THIS NOVEMBER. BUT OF THOSE 10
HOUSE REPUBLICANS WHO LAST
YEAR IN THE AFTERMATH OF
JANUARY 6 VOTED TO IMPEACH THE
PRESIDENT. 4 OF THEM HAVE
AUDRIE ANNOUNCE RETIREMENT IN
5 OF THE REMAINING 6 OF THEM
HAVE A CHALLENGERS WHO HAVE
BEEN ENDORSED BY FORMER
PRESIDENT TRUMP. AND SO THAT'S
WHY YOU SAW EARLIER TODAY
TRUMP SAYING FOR DOWN 6 TO GO
AND WITH HAVE TO BE OUT. AND
THIS IS I THINK WE'VE ALSO GOT
A NOTE, ALI, THAT THERE'S 2
SENATORS, SENATOR BURR FROM
NORTH CAROLINA AS WELL AS
SENATOR TOOMEY FROM
PENNSYLVANIA WHO VOTED TO
CONVICT DONALD TRUMP AFTER THE
HOUSE IMPEACHED IN THOSE
MONTHS AFTER JANUARY 6
INSURRECTION. THEY BOTH HAVE
ANNOUNCED THEIR RETIREMENTS AS
WELL. SO TRUMP IS LOOKING AT
THIS AS WINDS FOR HIM IN HIS
EFFORT TO CONSOLIDATE POWER
WITHIN THIS REPUBLICAN PARTY
AS HE OPENLY TOUTS A POTENTIAL
2024 PRESIDENTIAL RUN FROM
SOFT YOUR GREAT REPORTING.
GLAD TO HAVE YOU ON A THANK
YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
>> TIME NOW TO A BACKSTORY ARE
BEHIND THE SCENES. LOOK AT HOW
A STORY COMES TOGETHER AND HOW
IT FITS INTO OUR BIGGER
PICTURE. AND TONIGHT WE'VE
BEEN SEEING THESE AWFUL
IMAGES, RIGHT. THESE
DEVASTATING PICTURES COMING
OUT OF UKRAINE EVERY DAY WE'RE
SHOWING YOU HERE BECAUSE IT'S
IMPORTANT TO SHINE A LIGHT ON
RIGHT LIVES LOST FROM THIS WAR
IN UKRAINE. BUT FOR THE PEOPLE
WATCHING TV ARE WATCHING WHAT
A REPLY FROM YOU'RE WATCHING
ON RUSSIA. THEY'RE BEING TOLD
THERE'S NO WAR IN UKRAINE.
THEY'RE BEING TOLD THERE'S
JUST A SPECIAL MILITARY
OPERATIONS SUPPOSEDLY TO ROOT
OUT NAZIS AND THOSE PICTURES
THAT WE'RE SHOWING YOU A
BOMBED OUT CITIES BOMBED OUT
HOUSES. RUSSIAN STATE MEDIA
SAYING THE UKRAINIANS DID IT
TO THEMSELVES. OUR KEN
DILANIAN TOOK A DEEPER DIVE
INTO THIS PROPAGANDA. HE
TALKED WITH AN AWARD-WINNING
RUSSIAN INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER
WHO LEFT MOSCOW IN EARLY MARCH
WHO SAYS A LOT OF RUSSIANS
SIMPLY DON'T WANT TO FACE
WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON.
>> IT'S NOT THAT THIS THIS
INFORMATION SO A TERRIFYING
EFFECTIVE. IT'S ACTUALLY QUITE
LAME AND STUPID. IT'S AND SELL
THEM TO VICTORY. IT SEEMS
PROVIDE PROVIDE PEOPLE A KIND
OF CUSHION. IN THEMSELVES
THEIR HORRIFIC WE HAVE THAT
THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO FACE.
ONE DAY.
>> WE'VE SEEN IN REAL TIME HOW
THE KREMLIN HAS REACTED TO
INDEPENDENT REPORTING ON THE
INVASION, SHUTTING DOWN
ESSENTIALLY THAT KIND OF
INDEPENDENT JOURNALISM WITH A
CRACKDOWN AND MAKING IT HARD
FOR RUSSIANS TO GET ON THE
PLATFORMS LIKE FACEBOOK AND
INSTAGRAM. KEN IS WITH US NOW
TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE
AGAIN BEHIND THE SCENES CAN.
WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE IN THE BACK
STORY PULLING BACK THE CURTAIN
ON HOW YOU GOT THIS REPORTING.
WHEN DID YOU DECIDE TO TAKE A
CLOSER LOOK AT THIS AND WHY
DID YOU DECIDE THAT THIS WAS
THE STORY THAT YOU WANTED TO
TELL. SO I WISH I COULD CLAIM
CREDIT FOR THIS IDEA HOW IT
WAS ACTUALLY THE IDEA OF DAN
KOREAN, MSNBC SEGMENT PRODUCER
WHO BROUGHT THIS TO BE ABOUT A
WEEK AGO.
>> AND SAID, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN
WE FIGURE OUT WHAT THE RUSSIAN
PEOPLE ARE SEEING. THAT WAS
REALLY INTRIGUING IDEA BECAUSE
WE SORT OF KNEW VAGUELY THAT
THERE'S A CRACKDOWN GOING ON.
BUT WE DID. I WANT TO HEAR,
YOU KNOW, FROM RUSSIAN
SPEAKERS THEMSELVES OF WHAT
THEY HAD SEEN AND HEARD. AND I
WAS SURPRISED ACTUALLY THE
EXTENT OF THE PROPAGANDA
MACHINE. I WAS ALSO SURPRISED
TO LEARN THAT RUSSIANS WHO
WANT THE TRUTH CAN FIND. IT'S
REALLY HEARTBREAKING NEWS APPS
LIKE THEY CAN USE OF ARE STILL
ALLOWED RUSSIA. BUT ONE OF THE
FEW SOCIAL MEDIA STILL OUT.
BUT THE PEOPLE WE TALKED TO
SAID A LOT OF RUSSIANS JUST
ARE NOT THAT CURIOUS AND ARE
NOT REALLY FIGHTING HARD TO
FIND THAT YOU'RE THERE. SO
TAKING WHAT OFFICIALS, STATE
MEDIA IS GIVING THEM WHAT I
FIND INTERESTING, TOO IS THAT
YOU TALK. YOU TALK WITH
SOMEBODY WHO PLAYED THE ROLE
OF THE KIND OF TOKEN AMERICAN
ON LIKE RUSSIAN TALK SHOWS.
THEY BRING THEM ON. AND THAT
BASICALLY SHOUT HIM DOWN AFTER
GOT A COUPLE WORDS AND RIGHT.
HOW DID YOU MANAGE TO CONNECT
WITH HIM WITH THE OTHER
INDEPENDENT JOURNALIST THAT
YOU FOUND WHEN THEY ARE HALF A
WORLD AWAY IN SOME INSTANCES
IN DEALING WITH SO MUCH
UPROOTING THEIR LIVES, THEIR
FAMILIES LIVES TO LEAVE THE
COUNTRY. WELL, I REACHED OUT
TO ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES WHO
JUST BEEN IN MOSCOW WITH OUR
TEAM THERE AND SAID, HEY, I
NEED SOME RUSSIAN SPEAKERS.
YOU KNOW, PRESUMABLY HAVE LEFT
THE COUNTRY WHO CAN TALK TO US
NOW.
>> AND SHE CONNECTED ME WITH
THE RUSSIAN JOURNALIST USE
EITHER AND THE PERSON YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT IS MICHAEL WAS
YOUR I KNEW ABOUT HIM BECAUSE
HE HAD BEEN SPEAKING INTO
OTHER MEDIA. HE'S SUCH A
FASCINATING CHARACTER BECAUSE
AS YOU SAID, HE WAS THE
DESIGNATED AMERICAN. HE IS
LIVING PROOF THAT EVEN BEFORE
THIS CRACKDOWN, THE RUSSIAN
MILL. YOU WAS A VERY DISTORTED
WAS RIGHT. AND SO THE RUSSIANS
ARE REALLY FED A DIET OF
PROPAGANDA FOR YEARS AND HE
WAS PART OF THAT. HE
ACKNOWLEDGES HE PARTICIPATED
IN. BUT EVEN HE DECIDED THAT
THE ON THE DAWN OF THE
INVASION. IT'S TIME TO GO. HE
TOOK HIS RUSSIAN LEFT THE
COUNTRY BECAUSE THERE'S NO
ROOM EVEN FOR HIM. THIS
INDEPENDENT NON-GOVERNMENTAL
RUSSIAN POLLING ORGANIZATION
FOUND APPROVAL RATING FOR
VLADIMIR PUTIN IN RUSSIA ROSE
FROM 71% LAST MONTH TO 83% NOW
I WONDER IS YOU TALK TO PEOPLE
WHO ARE LISTENING KREMLIN
PROPAGANDA. IF YOU'RE
SURPRISED BY THAT NUMBER WITH
ALL THE COFFEE AT AND GRAINS
OF SALT THAT NEED TO COME WITH
THAT IS WE TALK ABOUT THIS.
>> WELL, THE SOURCES ARE NOT
SURPRISED. I THINK IT MAY BE
INFLATED BECAUSE LOOK AT IT
MAY BE DANGEROUS TO TELL
POLLSTERS YOU AT THIS POINT.
REGARDLESS. THEY SAY THEY
BELIEVE THE MAJORITY OF
RUSSIANS SUPPORT PRUDENT AND
SUPPORT THIS WAR BECAUSE
THEY'VE BEEN FED A STEADY DIET
OF PROPAGANDA AND MICHAEL WAS
YOU'RE THE GUY YOU MENTIONED.
HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS
IS GOING TO CHANGE. HE WAS
EVEN TALK ABOUT TO BE AN
OCCUPATION OF THE COUNTRY,
WHICH OBVIOUSLY IS NOT GOING
TO HAPPEN TO BREAK THIS SPELL
THAT MANY OF THE RUSSIAN
PEOPLE ARE UNDER HOW KEN
DILANIAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR BRINGING US THE BEHIND THE
SCENES LOOK AT HOW THAT CAME
TOGETHER. THANKS FOR
ADMISSION.
>> SO TO COME HERE ON THE
SHOW. ANOTHER STATE IS
FOLLOWING FLORIDA'S LEAD
PLANNING THEIR OWN VERSION OF
CRITICS CALL THE DON'T SAY
LAW. PLUS MORE ON THE FOX WHO
BIT A BUNCH OF FOLKS AROUND
CAPITOL HILL HALF DOZEN OF
THEM, INCLUDING A LAWMAKER. I
TAKE JUST INTERVIEWED. THE
CONGRESSMAN WHO IS BEST FOR HAVING HIM ON IN A MINUTE.
HAVING HIM ON IN A MINUTE.
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>> SOMETIMES THE NEWS CAN BE
>> TALK ABOUT AN INCREDIBLE
RETURN 20 YEARS AFTER
BIOLOGIST CHARLES DARWIN'S
NOTEBOOKS WENT MISSING.
THEY'VE BEEN RETURNED WITHIN
KNOW WHAT IT SAID AND WHY IT'S
SO INTRIGUING COMING UP. BUT
FIRST, NBC NEWS COVERS
HUNDREDS OF STORIES EVERY DAY
AND BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T
POSSIBLY READ OR WATCH OR
LISTEN TO THEM. ALL OUR BUREAU
TEAMS HAVE DONE IT FOR YOU.
THIS IS WHAT THEY TELL US IS
GOING DOWN IN THEIR REGIONS
AND A SEGMENT WE CALL THE
LOCAL FROM OUR SOUTHEAST
BUREAU, GEORGIA. LAWMAKERS
HAVE NOT PASSED A BILL THAT
WOULD LET STATE POLICE
INVESTIGATE VOTER FRAUD.
PEOPLE OPPOSED TO THIS THING
SAY IT'S A POWER MOVE THAT'S
MEANT TO SCARE VOTERS AND
ELECTIONS WORKERS. WE KNOW
VOTING RIGHTS OF BEEN A HUGE
ISSUE IN THAT STATE. GOVERNOR
BRIAN KEMP IS EXPECTED TO SIGN
THAT BILL FROM OUR MIDWEST,
OHIO REPUBLICANS HAVE
INTRODUCED A BILL SIMILAR TO
WHAT'S BEEN CALLED THE DON'T
SAY LAW DOWN IN FLORIDA.
THAT'S THE LAW THAT STOPS
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT
ORIENTATION AND GENDER
IDENTITY. IN PRIMARY SCHOOLS.
GRADES K THROUGH 3. THE BILL
PROPOSED IN OHIO BUT ALSO STOP
CLASSROOMS, LEARNING ABOUT
THINGS LIKE CRITICAL RACE AND
FROM OUR DC BUREAU CAPITOL
POLICE SAY A FOX HAS BEEN
CAPTURED. LOOK AT IT AFTER
APPARENTLY BITING OR NIPPING 6
PEOPLE, INCLUDING A MEMBER OF
CONGRESS. CAPITOL POLICE
POSTED THESE PICTURES OF THE
THE CULPRIT, IF YOU WILL,
AFTER WITH A CALLING
AGGRESSIVE ENCOUNTERS RIGHT
NEAR THE CAPITAL IN THAT
BUILDING. THAT IS RIGHT THERE
BY THE LET ME BRING IN GARRETT
HAKE WHO IS UP ON THE HILL WHO
IS NOT. I THINK ENCOUNTERED
THE FOX GARRETT, BUT YOU HAVE
ENCOUNTERED THE LAWMAKER WHO
WAS BITTEN BY THE FOX. I KNOW
THAT LITERALLY JUST SPOKE WITH
THEM. WE HAVEN'T EVEN BE ABLE
TO TURN AROUND THE VIDEO YET.
BUT.
>> HE ADDED TO THE HOSPITAL.
WE TELL YOU.
>> YEAH, IT BETWEEN THE LAST
TIME I WAS ON THE ALLEY AND
RACED ACROSS THE CAPITAL
INTERVIEWED CONGRESSMAN AMI
BERA FROM CALIFORNIA WHO TOLD
ME HE WAS WALKING PAST THE
RUSSELL BUILDING THE BUILDING.
I'M STANDING IN RIGHT NOW.
LAST NIGHT AROUND THIS TIME WE
NEED TO SELL SOMETHING SHARP
IN HIS LOWER LEG AND TURNED
AROUND AND REALIZED THERE HAD
BEEN BITTEN BY A FOX. HE THEN
PROCEEDED TO DESCRIBE IT.
COLORFUL TERMS HOW HE TRIED TO
DEFEND THE FOX OFFERED AND GET
AWAY. HE HAD AN UMBRELLA IS
HANDY SORT OF PUSHED AWAY
POKED AWAY AT THIS BOX UNTIL
HE COULD GET AWAY FROM HE
WASN'T SURE THERE WAS ANY KIND
OF PUNCTURE WOUND. HE DIDN'T.
HE WASN'T BLEEDING OR ANYTHING
LIKE THAT. BUT WAS TOLD BY THE
ATTENDING PHYSICIAN. YOU'RE
OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION
THAT HE HAD TO GET THE FULL
CYCLE OF RABIES SHOTS TO 7
SHOTS ON TOP OF THE ENCOUNTER
WITH THE FOX. NOT A GREAT WAY
TO START YOUR WEEK. BUT IT'S
PROBABLY GOING TO BE WORSE OFF
FOR THE FOX VALLEY. HE OR SHE
WAS CAPTURED BY ANIMAL
CONTROL. YOU SEE THE PHOTOS
THERE AND IF THEY'RE TALKING
ABOUT RABIES SHOTS FOR FOLKS
WHO MIGHT HAVE BEEN GETTING IN
A POSSIBLY AGGRESSIVE FOX I
DON'T NECESSARILY LIKE HOW
THIS STORY PROBABLY ENDS WELL,
AND IT'S NOT JUST A MEMBER OF
CONGRESS SUCH AS CONGRESSMAN
BEAR RIGHT 5 OTHER PEOPLE. I
THINK THAT HAD REPORTED IN A
CAPITOL POLICE THAT THEY ALSO
GOT NAFTA. NOW. I THINK
THEY'RE LOOKING FOR MORE FOX
IS DO YOU THINK THERE ARE
MORE.
>> IT'S POSSIBLE THE AREA OVER
WHICH THIS HAS TAKEN PLACE THE
CAPITOL HILL FOR FOLKS WHO
AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH THE
LAYOUT HERE IS IS HUGE.
MULTIPLE ACRES IN THE AREAS IN
WHICH PEOPLE REPORTED GETTING
IT OR OR SIGHTINGS OF A FOX
SPANNED ENTIRE BLOCKS LONG
EXPANSE OF IT. THE ANIMAL
CONTROL FOLKS AREN'T SURE IF
THIS IS ONE FOX OR BUT THEY'RE
ON THE LOOKOUT. GARRETT
>> RIGHT ALL OVER THE HILL
TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR COMING
BACK. STATES TAKE IT OUT OF
NOW TO WHAT ELSE IS ONE OF
THEM. THE STRANGER STORIES OF
THE WEEK SO FAR MISSING
NOTEBOOKS FROM CHARLES DARWIN,
MYSTERIOUSLY RETURNED AFTER 20
YEARS, ONE OF THEM INCLUDED
HIS VERY FAMOUS TREE OF LIFE
SKETCH THAT MAPPED OUT HIS
THEORY OF NATURAL SELECTION.
THIS IS BIG DEAL STUFF. AND
HERE'S HOW IT WENT DOWN. THEY
WOULD UNIVERSITY IN ENGLAND
SAID TODAY THAT SOMEBODY JUST
RANDOMLY DROP THEM OFF AT THE
SCHOOL. WE'RE JUST FINDING OUT
ABOUT IT NOW. BUT LOOK AT THIS
KNOW IT HAPPENED LAST MONTH.
AND THE NOTE SAID LIBRARIAN
HAPPY EASTER. LIKE IS THAT
CRYPTIC? THAT IS SOME CRYPTIC
STUFF. PEOPLE. POLICE SAY THAT
THESE THESE NOTEBOOKS WERE
TAKEN FROM THE LIBRARY
LITERALLY 20 YEARS AGO,
SEPTEMBER 2000 TO BE
PHOTOGRAPHED. BUT THEN WHEN
OFFICIALS WENT BACK TO GO
CHECK ON THEY REALIZE THEY'VE
NEVER BEEN RETURNED. EMILY, A
CAT IS FOLLOWING THE STORY AS
IT EVOLVES AND EMILY, THESE
AND MISSING NOTEBOOKS GOT A
TON OF ATTENTION IN 2020 WHEN
THE UNIVERSITY WAS LIKE,
PLEASE, WHOEVER HAS THESE
NOTEBOOKS GIVE THEM BACK TO
US. THIS FEELS LIKE IT'S
CERTAINLY STRAIGHT OUT OF A
MOVIE. YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW
THIS ALL BEGAN. MORE THAN 2
DECADES AGO. INITIALLY THAT
LIBRARIES. THEY REALLY THOUGHT
THAT THESE NOTEBOOKS.
>> WE'RE PROBABLY JUST
MISPLACED THIS IS A LIBRARY
UP. SOME 10 MILLION BOOKS. SO
THEY THOUGHT, OK, IT'S JUST
MATTER OF TRACKING IT DOWN AND
PUTTING IT BACK IN THEIR
PROPER PLACE. BUT AFTER THE
LARGEST SURGE IN THE LIBRARY'S
HISTORY. THEY CAME TO
DETERMINE, OK. WE ACTUALLY
THINK DARWIN'S NOTEBOOKS WERE
ACTUALLY MORE LIKELY STOLEN.
AND SO THEY TAP TO LOCAL AND
GLOBAL POLICE FORCES. AND THEY
ALSO MEET THIS PUBLIC PLEA
ASKING ANYONE WITH INFORMATION
TO COME FORWARD TO HELP
RESTORE AND HELP THEM PUT BACK
IN THEIR PROPER PLACE. THESE
CRITICAL PIECES OF HISTORY
AROUND EVOLUTION. SOMEONE DID
COME FORWARD AND THEY DID SO
IN AN ANONYMOUS WAY DROPPING
OFF THIS PINK. GET TO BACK
OUTSIDE OF THE LIBRARIANS
OFFICE. THE 2 NO BOOKS WERE
WRAPPED IN PLASTIC FORTUNATELY
THEY WERE IN GOOD CONDITION.
BUT YEAH, THIS IS A MYSTERY
AND STILL PARTS OF IT IS A
PINK NOTEBOOK WITH LIKE THE
AIR GIFT BAG WITH LIKE THE
HAPPY EASTER. I MEAN, EMILY,
IT. THIS IS THESE ARE HISTORIC
ARTIFACTS AND YOU ALLUDED TO
IT. THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR FOR
CAMBRIDGE.
>> AND POLICE ARE LIKE STILL
ON THE HIGH. THAT'S NOT WHAT
THIS PERSON'S OFF NECESSARILY
WITHOUT A HITCH. JUST BECAUSE
THEY RETURN THE BOOKS.
>> YEAH. THEY SAY THAT THEIR
THIS IS VERY MUCH AN OPEN
INVESTIGATION. YOU KNOW, THERE
ARE A LOT OF UNKNOWNS IN THIS
CASE. AND I THINK CHIEF AMONG
THEM EVERYONE WANTS TO KNOW
WHO IS ACTS LIKE THAT. WEIRD
MESSAGE HAPPY EASTER AND SO
AGAIN, SO POLICE ARE LOOKING
INTO THIS AND SAY THAT THERE
ARE FOLLOWING UP ON CERTAIN
LEAD. SO THIS IS STILL VERY
MUCH A DEVELOPING SITUATION.
AND AGAIN, THEY ARE ASKING
ANYONE WITH INFORMATION EVEN
IF IT SEEMS LITTLE TO COME
FORWARD. SO THE NOTEBOOKS ON
LOCKDOWN NOW LIKE HIS KAYMER
IS CAMBRIDGE LETTING PEOPLE
STILL LOOK AT THEM AGAIN. DO
WE KNOW. SO I WILL SAY THE
LIBRARY KNOWLEDGE IS, YOU
KNOW, 20 YEARS AGO AND THE
SECURITY SITUATION, THE
PICTURE OF SECURITY IS VERY
DIFFERENT FROM WHAT IT IS
TODAY. THEY NOW HAVE
SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS. THEY
HAVE ON-SITE SECURITY. THEY
HAVE A LOT OF I GUESS
OBSTACLES. YOU HAVE TO GET
THROUGH TO GET INTO SIR IN
HIGHLY SECURE ROOMS LIKE PAINS
AND ACCESS CODES BUT IN
CELEBRATION OF THE RETURN OF
THE SNOW FOLKS. THEY ARE GOING
TO PUT THEM ON PUBLIC DISPLAY
IN AN EXHIBITION. ALL RELATED
TO DARWIN COME JULY HALEIGH
EMILY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
BRINGING US AS YOU SAY,
STRAIGHT OUT OF A MOVIE.
MISTER, APPRECIATE IT. THAT
DOES IT FOR US FOR THIS HOUR.
GREAT TO BE WITH YOU AS
ALWAYS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
MORE FOR YOU HERE TOMORROW.
SAME TIME, SAME PLACE COVERAGE
PICKS UP RIGHT NOW.
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