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>>> THE SUPREME COURT IS HEARING
A CASE ON THE CITIZENSHIP
QUESTION, SHOULD THE 2020 CENSUS
INCLUDE IT.
INCLUDE IT. NEW EVIDENCE HAS EMERGED AGAINST
THE PLAN TO DO SO.
BUT THAT EVIDENCE MAY NOT
MATTER.
MATTER. BEFORE I GET TO THAT PART, WHY
IT MATTERS OR NOT, LET’S LOOK AT
THE CENSUS AND WHY THAT MATTERS.
THE CONSTITUTION REQUIRES A
CENSUS BE TAKEN EVERY TEN YEARS,
STARTING IN 1790.
THE FORM HAS INCLUDED QUESTIONS
RELATING TO CITIZENSHIP IN THE
PAST BUT A GEORGETOWN LAW
JOURNAL HAS FOUND THERE’S NO
HISTORICAL PRECEDENT FOR THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION’S VERSION
OF THE QUESTION.
ACCORDING TO "THE WASHINGTON
POST," A SURVEY FOUND IF A
QUESTION WERE ADDED TO THE
CENSUS, UP TO 10% OF THE
POPULATION WOULD LIKELY NOT
RESPOND.
RESPOND. A 6% DECREASE IN NONCITIZEN
PARTICIPATION WITH THE QUESTION,
UNFORTUNATELY SINCE THE ARTICLE
WAS WRITTEN, THAT ANALYSIS IS NO
LONGER AVAILABLE ONLINE.
THAT WOULD RESULT IN MORE THAN
32
32 32 MILLION PEOPLE UNCOUNTED
UNDER THE ANALYSIS.
MORE THAN 19 MILLION PEOPLE
WOULD BE UNCOUNTED UNDER THE
SENSE BUREAU ANALYSIS AND ALL OF
THIS RACES BIG ISSUES.
IT’S USED TO DETERMINATION
REPUTATION IN CONGRESS.
LOWER RESPONSE RATES WITHOUT
HAVE ALL THE REPRESENTATIVES
THEY’RE ENTITLED TO.
FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THINGS LIKE
HEAD START, MEDICARE, SNAP,
HIGHWAY FUNDING, SOCIAL SECURITY
FORECASTS, EVEN WELLNESS
PROGRAMS, HEALTH STUDIES, THESE
STUDIES REQUIRE THE MOST
ACCURATE POPULATION DATA.
NOT CITIZENSHIP DATA.
THINK ABOUT A MEASLES OUTBREAK,
DO YOU CARE WHETHER IT’S
CITIZENS WHO HAVE IT OR
NONCITIZENS OR DO YOU WANT TO
KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE IT.
THE "NEW YORK TIMES" IS SHEDDING
LIGHT ON WHY THEY’RE PUSHING FOR
THIS QUESTION IN THE FIRST
PLACE.
PLACE. WHEN THE MAN DIED IN 2018.
HIS DAUGHTER WAS GIVEN 18 THUMB
DRIVES OF HIS LAPTOP.
AMONG THE DATA WAS A DRAFT STUDY
ON HOW ADDING A CITIZENSHIP
QUESTION TO THE CENSUS COULD
HELP REPUBLICANS GERRYMANDER
DISTRICTS IN THEIR OWN FAVOR.
THE CASE IS INTERESTING, THE
STORY IS REALLY INTERESTING, BUT
THE BOTTOM LINE, THIS CASE IS
ALREADY BEFORE THE SUPREME
COURT, WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?
JOINING ME TO TALK ABOUT THAT IS
JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT PETE
WILLIAMS.
WILLIAMS. PETE, THIS IS WHAT MOST PEOPLE
LIKE ME WOULD SAY IS NEW
EVIDENCE, EXCEPT THE SUPREME
COURT HAS HEARD THE ARGUMENTS IN
THIS CASE ALREADY.
>> THAT’S RIGHT.
THE CASE WAS ARGUED APRIL 23rd
AND THERE’S NO FORMAL MECHANISM
FOR REOPENING THE CASE.
WHAT HAPPENED IS THE ACLU
NOTIFIED A -- THE DISTRICT JUDGE
THAT HEARD THIS CASE IN NEW YORK
AND DIRECTED THE CENSUS BUREAU
NOT TO ADD THE QUESTION.
THAT’S THE CASE THAT’S ON APPEAL
TO THE SUPREME COURT.
THE ACLU NOTIFIED THE JUDGE AND
SAID EVEN THOUGH THE SUPREME
COURT HAS THE CASE, YOU HAVE
JURISDICTION IF ANYONE MISLEAD
THE COURT.
THE COURT. WE WANT THERE TO BE A HEARING ON
WHETHER TWO GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS
MISLED THE COURT BY DENYING THIS
RESEARCH HAD ANY ROLE IN THE
LETTER THAT ULTIMATELY CAME FROM
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT OR THE
COMMERCE DEPARTMENT ASKING FOR
THIS DATA SAYING IT WOULD HELP
THE GOVERNMENT ADMINISTER THE
DATA.
DATA. THAT WAS FILED IN THE DISTRICT
COURT YESTERDAY.
COURT YESTERDAY. THEY SENT A COPY OF THAT REPORT
TO THE SUPREME COURT WITH A
LETTER SAYING HERE’S WHAT WE
FILED.
FILED. THOUGHT YOU OUGHT TO KNOW THIS.
THEY’RE SAYING THE ALLEGATIONS
ARE BASELESS.
ARE BASELESS. THEY’RE SAYING THE GOVERNMENT
OFFICIALS WHO DRAFTED THE LETTER
HAD NEVER HEARD OF THOMAS’S
RESEARCH.
RESEARCH. IT PLAYED NO ROLE IN THEIR
REQUEST AND THEY’LL RESPOND MORE
FULLY ON MONDAY AS DIRECTED BY
THE JUDGE IN NEW YORK.
>> THIS GUY WHO’SSE COMPUTER THI
WAS FOUND ON, WAS KNOWN IN
POLITICAL CIRCLES.
POLITICAL CIRCLES. >> HE DEFINITELY HAS HAD A ROLE
IN HELPING REPUBLICANS USE
CITIZENSHIP DATA AND ENGINEER
GERRYMANDERS TO HELP REPUBLICANS
GET ELECTED.
GET ELECTED. HE DID THIS STUDY SAYING IF YOU
GOT MORE REPRICE DATA,
CITIZENSHIP VOTING DATA, YOU
COULD DO THIS EVEN BETTER.
THE ACLU SAYS THE EVIDENCE
SHOWED THIS DID PLAY A ROLE,
THAT A COMMERCE DEPARTMENT
PERSON ADVISING SECRETARY ROSS
WAS WELL AWARE OF THIS, AND SO
WAS THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.
BUT THE GOVERNMENT IS SAYING,
NO, I DIDN’T PLAY A ROLE.
THAT’S -- THE GOVERNMENT, BY THE
WAY, HAS NOT RESPONDED IN THE
SUPREME COURT.
SUPREME COURT. IT WILL PROBABLY DO WHAT PART
ACLU DID WHICH IS RESPOND TO THE
JUDGE IN NEW YORK’S REQUEST FOR
A RESPONSE FROM THE GOVERNMENT
AND THEN SEND THAT TO THE
SUPREME COURT AS WELL.
WHAT ROLE THAT’S GOING TO PLAY
IN THE SUPREME COURT, AS A
PURELY TECHNICAL MATTER, THEY’RE
NOT SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT EVIDENCE
OUTSIDE THE RECORD, AND THE
RECORD IS WHAT WENT THROUGH THE
LOWER COURTS.
LOWER COURTS. BUT THESE THINGS SOMETIME COME