CONNELL: WE DO HAVE SOME NEW
DEVELOPMENTS IN THE TRADE FRONT
WITH CHINA TO PUSH FORWARD WITH
NEW TARIFFS ON ITS $10 BILLION
WORTH OF CHINESE GOODS.
U.S. SMALL-BUSINESS OWNERS
SO THOSE NEW NUMBERS COME IN AS
A STORY IN THE JOURNAL, "WALL
STREET JOURNAL" THIS MORNING
ABOUT TRUMPS TARIFFS TAKING
THEIR TOLL AND SOME OF THE SMALL
BUSINESSES.
IT SEEMS TO CONFLICT.
MAYBE IT DOES COME IN MAYBE A
DOZEN AGAINST BOTH OF THOSE
NUMBERS ON THE SAME DAY.
TIM CHAPMAN, EXECUTIVE OR, GOOD
I WAS KIND OF RATING BOTH
SIMULTANEOUSLY A THING THAT IS
INTERESTING WITH THE OPTIMISM
SET AN ALL-TIME HIGH, THE
JOURNAL POINTS OUT SOME OF THE
SMALL-BUSINESS OWNERS ARE
STARTING TO FEEL IT.
DO YOU BELIEVE BOTH?
>> THERE'S A LITTLE TRUTH IN
BOTH.
THE BIG PICTURE IS THE OPTIMISM
IS VERY REAL.
THE ECONOMY DOING FANTASTIC.
SMALL BUSINESSES ARE HIRING.
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM SMALL
BUSINESS OWNERS ARE FACING IF
THERE AREN'T ENOUGH PEOPLE TO
FILL THE JOB.
THAT'S A REAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHT
NOW.
WE SEE THAT AS A GOOD SIGN.
THERE'S SOME ANXIETY ABOUT WOOL
TRADE HAVE A NONPERSON ACT ON
THIS GOES ON.
>> THE QUESTION IS HAS THEIR
OPTIMISM PEAKED?
IT'S NOT ABOUT TO CHANGE?
>> I DON'T THINK SO.
YOU GOT THE TAX CUT ENACTED IN
THOSE HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY
WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK
ON NOT HERITAGE IMPACTING NOT
ALLOWING BUSINESSES TO HAVE MORE
CASH ON HAND TO DO THE THINGS
THEY NEED TO DO.
YOU WILL SEE MORE ABOUT GOING
IT IS A GOOD THING.
WE JUST ALL ARE GOING TO KEEP AN
EYE ON WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE
TRADE ISSUE AND OUR HOPE IS THAT
IT'S NOT.
CONNELL: EFFECTIVE BUSINESS
NOT KILLING THE BUSINESS BUT
WERE MAKING MORE MONEY OR PROFIT
MARGINS WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE
STEEL AND ALUMINUM TARIFFS.
THE JOURNAL PIECE TALKS ABOUT
SMALL COMPANIES.
SOME ARE TECHNOLOGY-BASED.
ONE MUST MAKE AN ELECTRIC
SCOOTER, MOTORCYCLE.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE OTHER OPTIONS,
THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF COMPANIES
THEY CAN'T STAND FOR ALL THAT
LONG.
>> WHICH HERITAGE OF ALWAYS
TO TARIFFS LIKE THIS.
THAT SAID, THE PRESIDENT HAS
DONE A GOOD JOB OF IDENTIFYING
CHINA AS A VERY BAD AT YOUR AND
HE'S DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
I THINK WE ARE IN A KIND OF LETS
A LONG TIME.
WE WANT TO GET A RESOLUTION TO
THIS.
IN TERMS OF HOW THIS HAS IMPACT
IN COMMON POLITICALLY IMPACTING
IS THERE.
>> WE JUST HAVE TO GUESS I'M IN
THE PREVIOUS SEGMENT AND MUSTAFA
STARTED TO TALK ABOUT TRADE AND
WHAT I STARTED TO SAY AT THE END
IS DEMOCRAT DON'T NECESSARILY
HAVE AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE ON
THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS.
IF BILL CLINTON WAS RUNNING THEY
WOULD FOR SOMEONE FROM THAT JOKE
IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
TO ME THEY LARGELY AGREE WITH
OF THIS TRADE ARGUMENT ON TRADE.
ACCOMPLISHMENT OF THESE MAKE
FREE TRADERS OUT OF THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
90% APPROVAL RATING WITH THE
PEOPLE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
SEEMS LIKE ELECTED OFFICIALS
EVEN THOUGH THE MAJORITY
REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS DO NOT
APPROVE OF THE PRESIDENT'S TRADE
POLICIES OR HAVE IT IN THEIR
CAREER.
>> I THINK THAT'S RIGHT, BUT
ALSO THE ISSUE IS THEY RECOGNIZE
THE PRESIDENT HAS A PULSE ON
SOMETHING HERE.
REAL COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN HURT
BY GLOBALIZATION AND FREE TRADE
TARIFFS.
>> WHAT I'M TELLING YOU AS
CONSERVATIVES HAVE TO DO A
BETTER JOB OF JOB TRAINING,
VOCATIONAL TRAINING,
APPRENTICESHIPS THAT CAN HELP
PEOPLE MOVE FROM ONE SECTOR TO
ANOTHER.
THERE'S WAYS TO DO THAT AT THE
STATE LEVEL, NOT THE FEDERAL
LEVEL.
>> IT IS WORKING EVEN BY PEOPLE
IN THAT BASE THEIR WORK IN
INDUSTRIES THAT MIGHT GET HURT.
I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF THEM AT
RALLIES AND OTHER PLACES THIS
DAY I STILL SUPPORT AMONG US
EVEN IF IT HURTS INDIVIDUALLY.
WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF TRADE
BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT IS TAKING
THE CONSTITUENCY SERIOUSLY, THAT
MATTERS AND HELPS THEM IN PLACES
LIKE OHIO WHERE WE SAW A
SIGNIFICANT VICTORY LAST NIGHT
IN THEIR ABILITY TO HOLD ONTO
THE DISTRICT.
I THINK THAT ALL THE TAILWINDS
DEMOCRATIC ARTY UNTIL TRUMP CAME
IN AND DID WHAT HE DID.
A LOT OF REPUBLICANS CHECK OUT.
HE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WAS
HAPPENING IN THE DISTRICT UNTIL
THE LAST COUPLE DAYS.
IT IS A SIGNIFICANT VICTORY
BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO START
PUTTING POINTS ON THE BOARD.
THEY WON IN THE SPECIAL ELECTION
CAN'T CLAIM VICTORIES OVER AND
OVER AGAIN.
NO DOUBT IT'S A TOUGH MIDTERM.
WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO
HOLD THE SEAT.
WE ARE GETTING INVOLVED ON OUR