SPECIAL COUNSEL JACK SMITH SAYS
THE JANUARY 6th CAPITOL ATTACKS
THAT THEY WERE FUELED BY, QUOTE,
LIES TOLD BY TRUMP.
THE 45-PAGE INDICTMENT LAYS OUT
SOME OF THEM IN DETAIL AND CNN'S
DANIEL DALE IS JOINING ME ON
THAT.
DANIEL WHAT ARE SOME OF THE LIES
THAT PROSECUTORS ARE ZEROING IN
ON HERE?
>> SO, I COUNTED 21 LISTED IN
THAT INDICTMENT.
YOU CAN GO FROM 18 TO 25
DEPENDING ON HOW YOU CLASSIFY
THEM.
REGARDLESS, IT IS A STAGGERING
LIST.
I'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH A FEW OF
THEM I THINK ARE ESPECIALLY
IMPORTANT OR REVEALING.
THE FIRST ONE IS THE LIE THAT
VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE DID
HAVE THE RIGHT TO REJECT JOE
BIDEN'S ELECTORAL VOTES.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE
OF HOW BRAZENLY ANTIDEMOCRATIC
IT IS, THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS
ASKING HIS VICE PRESIDENT TO
UNILATERALLY CAST ASIDE THE
WISHES OF THE PEOPLE.
IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF IT IS
OBSTRUCTIVE QUALITY.
THIS IS A LIE HE WAS USING TO
TRY TO OBSTRUCT THE GOVERNMENT
PROCESS OF CERTIFYING JOE
BIDEN'S VICTORY.
HOW DANGEROUS IT WAS.
THIS IS A LIE THAT PUT THE VICE
PRESIDENT'S LIFE AND THAT OF HIS
FAMILY IN JEOPARDY ON JANUARY
6th.
AND I THINK IT IS ALSO NOTABLE
BECAUSE TRUMP WAS REPEATEDLY
TOLD BY VICE PRESIDENT PENCE AND
OTHERS THAT IT WAS WRONG AND YET
HE PERSISTED AS HE OFTEN DID
WITH THE LIES LAID OUT IN THIS
DOCUMENT.
THE SECOND ONE, I WANT TO TALK
ABOUT, IS THE LIE THAT THE
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAD
IDENTIFIED SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS
THAT MAY HAVE AFFECTED THE
OUTCOME OF THE 2020 ELECTION
THIS IS NOTABLE BECAUSE, YOU
KNOW, WE KNOW THAT DONALD TRUMP
SAYS A LOT OF STUFF, HE TELLS A
LOT OF LIES AND PEOPLE SOMETIME
DISMISS HIS RHETORIC AS JUST A
GUY TALKING OR RANTING OR WHAT
YOU CALL IT.
THIS WAS DIFFERENT.
THIS, ACCORDING TO THE
INDICTMENT, WAS A LIE THAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP TRIED TO GET THE
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO TELL IN A
LETTER TO TARGETED STATES UNDER
THE SIGNATURE OF THE ACTING
ATTORNEY GENERAL.
SO, TRYING TO GET THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, A
RESPECTED ARM OF THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, TO ITSELF PROMULGATE
THESE LIES, TRYING TO OVERTURN
THE ELECTION.
AND I'LL NOTE THERE IS ANOTHER
RELATED LIE LISTED IN THE
INDICTMENT, WHEN TRUMP ALLEGEDLY
SAID, JUST SAY THAT THE ELECTION
WAS CORRUPT, HE SAID TO DOJ
OFFICIALS, AND LEAVE THE REST TO
ME AND THE REPUBLICAN
CONGRESSMEN.
THE THIRD ONE I WANT TO MENTION,
BRIANNA, THE DOMINION LIES, THE
LIES THAT VOTING MACHINES AROUND
THE COUNTRY HAD SWITCHED VOTES
FROM TRUMP TO BIDEN, RELAYED A
LIE THAT DOMINION WAS INVOLVED
IN, QUOTE, MASSIVE FRAUD.
THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT IS
AN EXAMPLE OF HOW TRUMP KEPT
SAYING ABSOLUTE NONSENSE, EVEN
AFTER IT WAS DEBUNKED TO HIS
FACE, IN CONVERSATIONS, IN
MEETINGS WITH HIM.
THE INDICTMENT ALLEGES THAT HIS
ATTORNEY GENERAL, THEN HIS
ACTING AG AND DEPUTY AG ALL TOLD
HIM IT WAS WRONG.
WE KNOW HIS CYBERSECURITY,
ELECTION SECURITY ARM DID THE
SAME.
HE KEPT SAYING IT NONETHELESS.
THIS WAS FAR FROM THE ONLY CASE
WHERE WE HAD THIS KIND OF THING.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE WAS THE
SO-CALLED GEORGIA SUITCASES FULL
OF BALLOTS FROM UNDER THE TABLE
WE HEARD SO MUCH, HE WAS TOLD
DIRECTLY BY THE SECRETARY OF
STATE OF GEORGIA AND THE TOP
DEPARTMENT OFFICIALS THIS WAS
WRONG, HE KEPT SAYING IT, HE
SAID PENNSYLVANIA HAD 205,000
MORE VOTES THAN VOTERS, HE HAD
BEEN TOLD THAT WAS WRONG BY A
TOP JUSTICE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL,
BUT KEPT SAYING IT.
THIS NONSENSE ABOUT VOTE DUMPS,
THE LATE NIGHT DUMPS WE HEARD
ABOUT IN DETROIT AND ELSEWHERE,
ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR AND OTHERS
TOLD HIM THAT WAS NONSENSE.
THAT WAS JUST VOTES BEING
COUNTED AS NORMAL AND YET AGAIN
HE PERSISTED AND KEPT TELLING
THE LIE.
>> IT IS A LITANY THAT LIST OF
LIES SPELLED OUT IN THE
INDICTMENT.
DANIEL DALE, THANK YOU FOR
TAKING US THROUGH THAT.
WE APPRECIATE IT.
>>> SO MUCH HERE, JIM, TO GO
THROUG
THROUGH.
THIS IS A LENGTHY INDICTMENT
WITH REFERENCE TO
CO-CONSPIRATORS AS WELL.
>> IT REFERENCES SIX
CO-CONSPIRATORS IN FACT THAT
TRUMP, QUOTE, ENLISTED TO ASSIST
HIM IN HIS CRIMINAL EFFORTS.
THAT'S WHAT THE INDICTMENT READ.
OUR JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT
JESSICA SCHNEIDER HERE TO BREAK
THAT DOWN, WHAT WE'RE LEARNING
ABOUT THEM.
LET'S BEGIN, FIRST, HERE, THE
SIX OF THEM AS WE KNOW THEM,
JOHN EASTMAN, SIDNEY POWELL,
JEFFREY CLARK, KENNETH CHESEBRO,
RUDY GIULIANI AND A SIXTH NAMED
CONSULTANT, NONE CHARGED AT THIS
POINT.
LET'S BEGIN WITH RUDY GIULIANI,
PERHAPS THE MOST WELL KNOWN,
PERSONAL ATTORNEY TO TRUMP,
PUSHED BASELESS FRAUD WITH THE
ARIZONA HOUSE SPEAKER WITHOUT
EVIDENCE, WE SHOULD NOTE, LEFT A
VOICE MAIL FOR ALABAMA SENATOR
TOMMY TUBERVILLE ASKING HIM TO
SLOW IT DOWN.
IT BEING THE CERTIFICATION OF
THE ELECTION.
WHAT IS HIS SIGNIFICANCE IN
HERE?
>> HE WAS REALLY THE ONE PUSHING
AND AT THE FOREFRONT OF THESE
FALSE ELECTION CLAIMS.
THE WAY THE INDICTMENT PUT IT,
THEY SAID HE WAS WILLING TO
SPREAD KNOWINGLY FALSE CLAIMS.
THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE REALLY
COULD BE KEY TO POTENTIALLY
CHARGING RUDY GIULIANI IN THE
WEEKS OR MONTHS TO COME BECAUSE
ALL OF THESE CO-CONSPIRATORS, IT
IS POSSIBLE THEY COULD BE
CHARGED.
RUDY GIULIANI'S SPOKESMAN,
THOUGH, HE'S PUSHING BACK BIG
TIME ON THIS.
HE SAYS THIS INDICTMENT
EVISCERATES THE FIRST AMENDMENT
AND HE'S REALLY SLAMMING THIS
ENTIRE INDICTMENT HERE.
RUDY GIULIANI WAS THE ONE WE SAW
OUT FRONT, YOU KNOW, GIVING THE
PRESS CONFERENCES, MULTIPLE
PRESS CONFERENCES TALKING BEFORE
STATE LAWMAKERS AND ARGUING THIS
IN COURT.
>> MAKING THE ARGUMENT THAT THEY
HAVE A RIGHT TO LIE.
CO-CONSPIRATOR NUMBER TWO, JOHN
EASTMAN.
HE CIRCULATED THIS TWO-PAGE MEMO
FOR VICE PRESIDENT PENCE MAKING
THE CASE, THE CLAIMED LEGAL CASE
TO OVERTURN THE 2020 ELECTION.
THIS WAS CENTRAL HERE BECAUSE
THIS WAS CENTRAL TO THE FORMER
PRESIDENT'S PLANS TO REVERSE THE
VOTE.
>> AND HE'S REALLY SEEN AS THE
LEAD ARCHITECT IN THIS WHOLE
PLOT TO USE FAKE ELECTORS, TO
SUBMIT THEIR FAKE CERTIFICATES,
AND THEN USE THE FORMER VICE
PRESIDENT TO TRY TO OVERTURN THE
ELECTION RESULTS, WHICH
OBVIOUSLY THE VICE PRESIDENT
NEVER ENDED UP DOING HERE.
>> HE DID NOT.
AND BY THE WAY, HE TESTIFIED IN
THE ESPECIALLY COUNSEL'S
INVESTIGATION, SOMETHING HE
DIDN'T DO IN THE JANUARY 6th
COMMITTEE, AND ONE OF THE
ADVANTAGES THAT THE SPECIAL
COUNSEL HAD IN MAKING THESE
CHARGES.
>> I WILL NOTE, JUST ONE THING,
EASTMAN'S ATTORNEY DID RESPOND
TO THIS, NOTABLY SAYING HE'S NOT
PARTICIPATING IN ANY PLEA TALKS
WITH PROSECUTORS, HE PLANS TO
FIGHT THIS AT TRIAL AND EVEN ON
APPEAL AS WELL.
>> TO TAKE AWAY THE IDEA THAT
PERHAPS THIS WAS A PRESSURE
CAMPAIGN ON SOME OF THEM TO FLIP
AND TURN STATES EVIDENCE.
CO-CONSPIRATOR NUMBER THREE,
SIDNEY POWELL, OF COURSE, AGAIN,
ONE OF THE MOST VISIBLE
PROSELYTIZERS OF THE BASELESS
ELECTION CLAIMS.
SHE FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE
GOVERNOR OF GEORGIA FALSELY
ALLEGING MASSIVE ELECTION FRAUD
THROUGH VOTING MACHINE
COMPANIES, SOFTWARE AND
HARDWARE.
ONE OF THE MOST ESSENTIAL PARTS
OF THIS WHOLE THING, THE WHOLE
IDEA THAT THE VOTING MACHINES
WERE SOMEHOW FLIPPING VOTES
HERE.
OF COURSE, FOX NEWS, FAMOUSLY
LOST A GIANT COURT CASE RELATED
TO THAT.
TELL US WHAT WE KNOW.
>> IN THIS INDICTMENT, IT SAYS
THAT TRUMP EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED
THAT HER THEORIES WERE, QUOTE,
CRAZY.
IT SAYS IT IN THE INDICTMENT.
SIDNEY POWELL DID FILE FOUR
LAWSUITS IN FOUR DIFFERENT
STATES, ONE OF THEM BEING
GEORGIA.
SHE HAD ALL THESE CRAZY THEORIES
SAYING THAT CHINESE SOFTWARE
ENGINEERS AND VENEZUELAN
OFFICIALS HAD HACKED INTO VOTING
MACHINES IN SEVERAL STATES.
ALL OF THOSE THEORIES DEBUNKED
BY THE COURTS.
WE ACTUALLY HEARD RECENTLY FROM
A FORMER GEORGIA STATE SENATOR
TALKING ABOUT HOW SIDNEY POWELL,
JOHN EASTMAN AND RUDY GIULIANI
WERE TRYING TO PUSH THIS ON
STATE LAW MMAKERS.
HERE SHE IS.
>> BUT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE
ACTUALLY HERE, WHO MADE
MISREPRESENTATIONS, WHO LIED,
RIGHT, TO OFFICIALS HERE IN
GEORGIA WITH THE INTENT TO
OVERTURN THE ELECTION, THEY WERE
RUDY GIULIANI, THEY WERE JOHN
EASTMAN, THEY WERE SIDNEY
POWELL.
SO ALL OF THE UNINDICTED
CO-CONSPIRATORS THAT YOU ALL
HAVE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY THUS
FAR, RIGHT, WERE THE FOLKS WHO
WERE ACTUALLY -- THEY WERE LIKE
THE SOLDIERS THAT WERE SENT INTO
THE BATTLEGROUND STATES TO
ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THE PLAN.
>> ONE THING WE SHOULD NOTE,
THEY CALL THESE CRAZY THEORIES,
BUT THE CRAZY THEORIES STILL
HELD SWAY WITH A LARGE
PERCENTAGE OF THE VOTING
POPULOUS, REPUBLICANS WHO STILL
BELIEVE THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN.
THERE ARE THREE MORE
CO-CONSPIRATORS, ONE JEFFREY
CLARK, ALLEGED HE ATTEMPTED TO
USE THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO
OVERTURN THE ELECTION.
CLARK PROPOSING SENDING LETTERS
TO SEVERAL STATES ABOUT
IDENTIFYING SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS
ABOUT THE VOTE.
OF COURSE, THOSE DEBUNKED AS
WELL.
CO-CONSPIRATOR NUMBER FIVE,
KENNETH CHESBRO, HE SENT RUSY
GIULIANI AN EMAIL MEMO ABOUT
THIS FAKE ELECTORS PLOT, CENTRAL
TO THE PLAN AGAIN TO OVERTURN
THE ELECTION.
FINAL CO-CONSPIRATOR AS YET
UNNAMED, THIS ONE A POLITICAL
CONSULTANT WHO HELPED IMPLEMENT
A PLAN TO SUBMIT FRAUDULENT
LATES OF ELECTORS TO OBSTRUCT
THE CERTIFICATION PROCEEDING,
THE INDICTMENT ALLEGES THIS
PERSON SENT GIULIANI EMAIL
IDENTIFYING LAWYERS IN THE SIX
SWING STATES WHO COULD ASSIST IN
THE FAKE ELECTOR PLOT.
ONE POINT THAT COMES ACROSS WITH
ALL SIX OF THESE IS THAT THIS
WAS NOT JUST ABOUT ONE STATE, IT
WAS ABOUT SEVERAL STATES, AS
WELL AS, OF COURSE, THE NATIONAL
PROCEDURE, WHILE THE VOTE ON
JANUARY 6th --
>> THIS ISN'T OVER.
THE SPECIAL COUNSEL WAS CLEAR TO
SAY THAT THE INVESTIGATION IS
STILL ONGOING WHEN HE SPOKE
BRIEFLY YESTERDAY AFTER THIS
INDICTMENT WAS HANDED UP.
SO THESE CO-CONSPIRATORS, THEY
COULD BE FACING PRESSURE TO
COOPERATE WITH INVESTIGATORS,
SOMETHING THAT EASTMAN'S
ATTORNEY SAID HE WON'T DO, BUT
MAYBE OTHERS ARE EYEING THAT
POSSIBILITY.
>> POSSIBILITY WE'LL CONTINUE TO
WATCH CLOSELY.
SIX STATES AS WELL AS THAT
NATIONAL VOTE TO CERTIFY THE
ELECTION.
BRIANNA, QUITE A BROAD RANGING
CONSPIRACY AS ALLEGED BY THE
SPECIAL COUNSEL.