THE ELECTION.
LIZ: THIS AS THE DOJ WATCHDOG
REPORT, REMEMBER WE ARE DIGGING
INTO THE FOOTNOTES, SHOWS THAT
AN FBI AGENT USED A ROUTINE
INTELLIGENCE BRIEFING IN AUGUST
OF 2016, TO SPY ON THEN
CANDIDATE TRUMP AND THEN
CAMPAIGN ADVISOR MICHAEL FLYNN
FOR THE RUSSIA PROBE.
MICHAEL FLYNN, HE IS AWAITING
SENTENCING AFTER PLEADING GUILTY
TO MAKING FALSE STATEMENTS TO
THE FBI.
HE IS STILL FIGHTING HIS CASE.
WELCOME TO THE SHOW, MICHAEL
FLYNN'S ATTORNEY, FORMER U.S.
PROSECUTOR SIDNEY POWELL.
THANKS FOR JOINING US, SYDNEY.
>> THANK YOU, LIZ.
LIZ: IS THERE ANY INDICATION
THAT U.S. PROSECUTOR JOHN DURHAM
IS PROBING CRIMINAL CHARGES FOR
WHAT HAPPENED WITH YOUR CLIENT?
>> NOT NECESSARILY, BUT IT WOULD
BE HARD FOR HIM TO LOOK VERY
DEEPLY INTO THE ENTIRE RUSSIA
COLLUSION MESS AND HOW IT WAS
ALL PUT TOGETHER WITHOUT COMING
ACROSS THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO
BE HELPFUL TO GENERAL FLYNN.
I MEAN WE KNOW THAT THERE WERE
CIA INVOLVEMENT.
I THINK MR. DURHAM HAS MR. MUST
HAVE -- MIFSUD'S TELEPHONE AND
HE WAS WESTERN ASSET.
THERE MAY BE INFORMATION THAT
COULD BE HELPFUL.
WE KNOW FROM THE INSPECTOR
GENERAL REPORT STUNNING THINGS
WENT ON THAT WE HAD NO IDEA HAD
HAPPENED.
LIZ: DID FBI OFFICIAL EVER
APPRISE MICHAEL FLYNN OF HIS
MIRANDA RIGHTS PRIOR TO THE 2016
BRIEFING THAT YOUR CLIENT
ATTENDED WITH THEN CANDIDATE
TRUMP?
BECAUSE SENATOR JOHN CORNYN SAYS
IT IS DANGEROUS FOR FEDERAL COPS
TO NOT, BASICALLY NOT TELL THE
PEOPLE THEY'RE TALKING TO THAT
ANYTHING THEY SAY COULD BE USED
AGAINST THEM IN AN
INVESTIGATION, POTENTIALLY
INVOLVING CRIMINAL CHARGES?
DID HE GET HIS MIRANDA RIGHTS?
>> OF COURSE NOT.
THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN EITHER TIME
HE WAS INTERVIEWED THEN OR IN
THE WHITE HOUSE OF THE ORIGINAL
INTERVIEW WAS COMPLETELY
SURREPTITIOUS.
NO ONE KNEW THAT AN FBI AGENT
WAS THERE TO COLLECTS
INFORMATION AGAINST PRESIDENT
TRUMP OR DIRECTOR FLYNN.
DIRECTOR WRAY SAID THAT WILL
NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.
THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS ABUSE OF FBI
POWER.
>> IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
WE REPORTED THAT THE DOJ
WATCHDOG FOUND THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION DID KNOW ABOUT
THE FBI PROBE IN 2016.
WE'RE DIGGING INTO THE STORY IN
THE NEXT SEGMENT.
THE OBAMA TWICE DECIDED NOT TO
GIVE HEADS UP ABOUT THE PROBE
INTO HIS CAMPAIGN.
SOMETHING CAME OUT WE HAD NOT
SEEN BEFORE.
I-F HOROWITZ COULD NOT RULE OUT
POLITICAL BIAS IN THE PAGE
INVESTIGATION, PROMPTING OF IT.
WATCH THIS.
>> WAS IT YOUR CONCLUSION THAT
POLITICAL BIAS DID NOT AFFECT
ANY PART OF THE PAGE
INVESTIGATION, ANY PART OF
CROSSFIRE HURRICANE, IS THAT
WHAT YOU CONCLUDED?
>> I DID NOT REACH THAT?
>> I COULD HAVE SWORN, I HEARD
THAT TODAY FROM THIS COMMITTEE,
THAT IS NOT YOUR CONCLUSION?
>> WE HAVE BEEN VERY CAREFUL IN
CONNECTION WITH THE FISAS FOR
THE REASONS YOU MENTIONED TO NOT
REACH THAT CONCLUSION.
LIZ: SO, WHAT HE IS SAYING IS,
SO MANY ERRORS, REPEATED TO
MISLEAD, LIE TO THE FISA COURT,
TRYING TO FIND OUT MOTIVATION
FOR ALL OF THOSE PROBLEMS.
NOT JUST INCOMPETENCY IT SEEMS.
IT SEEMS LIKE A POLITICAL
AGENDA.
IF HOROWITZ IS NOT RULING THAT
OUT?
>> NO, HE IS NOT DEFINITELY
RULING THAT OUT.
ANYONE LOOKING AT ALL THE
EVIDENCE CAN CERTAINLY DRAW
THEIR OWN CONCLUSIONS ABOUT HOW
AND WHY ALL OF THIS HAPPENED.
I IMAGINE, MR. DURHAM AND
ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR WILL GET
ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE THAT IS EVEN
MORE DAMNING THAT WHAT WE'VE
SEEN SO FAR.
LIZ: OKAY.
MICHAEL HOROWITZ, THE IG, WAS SO
ALARMED HE FEARS THERE ARE
SYSTEMIC PROBLEMS WITH THE FBI
PROCESS.
HE LAUNCHED A BROADER REVIEW OF
FBI USE OF THE FISA COURT.
DO YOU SEE THIS AS A SYSTEMIC
PROBLEM?
WE HAVE REPUBLICAN DEVIN NUNEZ
SAYING TWICE LAST YEAR, HE TOLD
THE FISA COURT ABOUT THE FBI
PROBLEMS, AND NOTHING HAPPENED.
YOUR RESPONSE TO ALL OF THAT?
>> IT IS A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM.
THE FISA JUDGES HAVE BEEN
RUBBERSTAMPING ANYTHING THAT THE
FBI HAS PUT IN FRONT OF THEM.
THERE WAS NO PROBABLE CAUSE
RECITED IN THE STEELE DOSSIER OR
FISA APPLICATION FOR CARTER PAGE
TO THE EXTENT WE'VE SEEN IT
UNREDACTED.
THERE ISN'T A SINGLE FIRST-HAND
ALLEGATION OF ANY WRONGDOING
THAT WOULD HAVE FLOWN IN ANY
SEARCH WARRANT I'VE DONE AND
HUNDREDS I HAVE DONE IN MY
CAREER.
IT IS ABSOLUTELY APPALLING.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE FISA
COURT, STAND UP NOW, DO
SOMETHING MEANINGFUL TO STOP
THIS KIND OF CONDUCT, AND
ENFORCE THEIR OWN STANDARDS LIKE
HOLD THESE PEOPLE IN CONTEMPT,
BAR THEM FROM PRACTICING IN
FRONT OF THE COURT, EXPOSE THEIR
NAMES TO EVERYONE.
WHAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD, IF
THEY WOULD INVALIDATE THE SEARCH
WARRANTS.
THEY CAN GO BACK AND DECLARE
THOSE FISA WARRANT ABSOLUTELY
UNACCEPTABLE AND INVALID.
LIZ: SO YOU'RE SAYING THROW THE
BOOK AT THEM?
>> EXACTLY.
BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON,
ACCORDING TO ROSEMARY COLLIER'S
DECISION FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
LIZ: UNCONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.