HE TOLD DONALD TRUMP THAT MIKE
PENCE WAS IN DANGER BEFORE
DONALD TRUMP SENT OUT THAT
PROVOCATIVE TWEET, AND TWO, CNN
RELEASED A BOMBSHELL REPORT OF A
PHONE CALL BETWEEN HOUSE
MINORITY LEADER KEVIN McCARTHY
AND TRUMP AS THE CAPITOL IS
BEING RIOTED.
AS McCARTHY BEGS THE PRESIDENT
TO CALL IT OFF, HE SAID, WELL,
KEVIN, I GUESS THESE PEOPLE ARE
MORE OBSESSED ABOUT THE ELECTION
THAN YOU ARE.
IF THAT’S TRUE, THAT’S
SOCIOPATHIC, THAT’S A QUOTE FOR
A MOVIE VILLAIN, NOT THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
IT SEEMS LIKELY THE SENATE WILL
VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT TO
CONVICT TRUMP SOMETIME TOMORROW,
IT REMAINS A CASE THAT THE FACTS
ARE ALL ON THE RECORD.
WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY
6, WE READ THE TWEETS, WE SAW
WHAT HAPPENED IN THE DAYS AND
MONTHS LEEGTDADING UP TO THE ATT
THE SENATORS WHO VOTED LIVED IT
FIRSTHAND.
SENATOR ALCINDOR SAID HER
HUSBAND WAS HOLDING THE DOOR
OPEN WITH HIS FOOT AS THE MOB
OUTSIDE CRIED, KILL THE
INFIDELS.
THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THERE IS
ENOUGH REPUBLICANS TO VOTE FOR
WHAT THEY KNOW IS TRUE AND
RIGHT.
SENATOR CHRIS VAN HOLLAND
INTRODUCED LEGISLATION AWARDING
OFFICER GOODMAN A MEDAL OF
HONOR.
SENATOR VAN HOLLAND OF MARYLAND
JOINS HAD HE NOW.
SENATOR, WHAT STRUCK YOU TODAY?
WERE THERE QUESTIONS AND RESPONSES THAT YOU THOUGHT WERE
RESPONSES THAT YOU THOUGHT WERE
PARTICULARLY REVEALING?
>> CHRIS, IT’S GOOD TO MEET WITH
YOU, AND THE MOMENT WE PASSED
THAT LEGISLATION WAS A BRIGHT
SPOT IN AN OTHERWISE DIFFICULT
DAY.
AS YOU SAY, AT THIS POINT THERE
IS NO COVER FOR REPUBLICANS WHO
HAVE LISTENED TO THE TESTIMONY
THROUGHOUT THIS TRIAL.
AND PARTICULARLY TELLING, THIS
EXCHANGE ABOUT SENATOR
TUBERVILLE.
BECAUSE EVEN IF YOU SOMEHOW
ACCEPT THAT DONALD TRUMP DID NOT
KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING IN
DIRECTING THIS MOB TO THE
CAPITOL AND DID NOT INTEND FOR
THEM TO VIOLENTLY INTERFERE WITH
THE COUNT, YOU CAN’T EXPLAIN WHY
HE DIDN’T SAY STOP WHEN HE FOUND
OUT IT HAPPENED.
AND WE KNOW NOW THAT THE FACTS
SHOW THAT HE KNEW THE VICE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
WAS HUFLDSTLED OUT OF THE CHAMBE
TO PROTECT HIS LIFE, AND STILL
DONALD TRUMP WENT ON.
HE DIDN’T CALL OFF THE MOB, AS
MICK MULVANEY HAS SAID, AS ALL
OF HIS ALLIES, CHRIS
>> Chris:CHRIS CHRISTIE
HAS SAID, HE KNEW HE HAD TO STOP
THIS AND HE DIDN’T.
THAT’S WHAT HE INTENDED FROM THE
BEGINNING.
>> THERE’S NEW REPORTING
TONIGHT, WHICH I JUST MENTIONED.
I WANT TO GET YOUR REACTION TO
IT.
IT COMES TO US UNDER TWO
REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF CONGRESS
ON THE RECORD DESCRIBING KEVIN
McCARTHY’S ACCOUNT OF THE
CONVERSATION HE HAD WITH THE
PRESIDENT TO THEM.
THERE ARE MORE WHO ARE QUOTED
ANONYMOUSLY, IN WHICH KEVIN
McCARTHY, LIKE OTHERS,
UNDERSTANDS THAT TRUMP IS THE
ONE WHO CAN CALL THESE PEOPLE
OFF.
THEY’RE WEARING TRUMP HATS AND
CARRYING TRUMP FLAGS, SO, YOU
KNOW.
HE’S ASKING THEM TO DO THAT AND
THE PRESIDENT SAYS THIS.
WELL, KEVIN, I GUESS THESE
PEOPLE ARE MORE UPSET ABOUT THE
ELECTION THAN YOU ARE.
THAT ACCORDING TO LAWMAKERS, A
FURIOUS McCARTHY TOLD THE
PRESIDENT THE RIOTERS WERE
BREAKING INTO HIS OFFICE THROUGH
THE WINDOWS AND ASKED TRUMP, WHO
THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU’RE
TALKING TO?
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT?
>> WE KNOW WHAT WAS ON DONALD
TRUMP’S MIND, THAT THIS WAS AN
EFFORT TO OVERTURN THE ELECTION.
HE TIMED THIS ON JANUARY 6 FOR
THE SPECIFIC PURPOSE OF SENDING
THE MOB TO PREVENT COUNTING OF
THE VOTE SO HE COULD STAY IN
OFFICE.
NOW KEVIN McCARTHY IS SAYING,
MR. PRESIDENT, WE’RE UNDER
ATTACK BY THIS MOB AND HERE’S
THE PRESIDENT SAYING, LOOK,
KEVIN, THEY’RE THE ONES WHO CARE
ABOUT THIS ELECTION, MEANING
DONALD TRUMP’S FRAUDULENT
EXPLANATION THAT HE WAS CHEATED
OUT OF AN ELECTION.
SO IT UNDERMINES THE ENTIRE
DEFENSE THAT THE PRESIDENT’S
LAWYERS HAVE PUT ON, AND AS
JAMIE RASKIN NOTED, IF DONALD
TRUMP WANTS TOP COME PUT FORWARD
HIS SIDE OF THE STORY, BE OUR
GUEST.
COME SIT IN FRONT OF THE SENATE,
BE SWORN IN AND TELL THE TRUTH.
THEY OBVIOUSLY DON’T WANT HIM TO
DO THAT BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT
WILL PUT HIM IN EVEN MORE LEGAL
JEOPARDY.
SDPLZ
>> ALSO TO ME IT HIGHLIGHTS MUCH
OF THE FACTUAL RECORD IS
UNCLEAR.
WE SAW INCREDIBLE AMOUNTS OF
VIDEO FOOTAGE.
SOMETHING LIKE THIS INDICATES
IT’S NOT COMPLETE AND WOULD SEEM
TO SUGGEST THAT WITNESSES MIGHT
BE APPROPRIATE HERE.
YOU COULD SUBPOENA KEVIN
McCARTHY.
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT COULD COME
AND TALK UNDER OATH, NOT JUST
THE PRESIDENT.
WHY NOT DO THAT?
>> WELL, THAT WILL BE A QUESTION
THAT THE HOUSE MANAGERS HAVE TO
DECIDE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY
THINK THEY NEED THAT.
WE DO HAVE THIS TESTIMONY, THE
STATEMENTS FROM KEVIN McCARTHY.
IT’S TRUE HE’S NOT IN PERSON
BEFORE THE SENATE, BUT WE ALSO
HAVE THE STATEMENTS OF
TUBERVILLE, AND THEN WE HAVE
EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN
PLAIN VIEW THAT’S ON VIDEO.
AS YOU SAID, ALL OF THIS WAS
HANDED OVER TO THE PRESIDENT’S
LAWYERS, AND IN FACT, THEY COULD
SEE IT ON THEIR OWN TV, MUCH OF
IT.
I DON’T KNOW, CHRIS, ABOUT WHAT
THE HOUSE MANAGERS ARE GOING TO
WANT TO DO.
THINK THEY’VE ESTABLISHED A
SLAM-DUNK CASE THAT THE
PRESIDENT INCITED VIOLENCE FOR
THE PURPOSE OF OVERTURNING THE
ELECTION.