You know, I've got four draft age children, so if you're playing recklessly,
fast and loose with their lives, then I have a right to despise you, and I do.
So if you're Nikki Haley, who's running for president, or Ben Shapiro or half
the people I see on television casually mentioning the possibility of nuclear war
or sending Americans to fight in the Middle East, or in any way
involving us in a war that has nothing to do with prosperity and peace at home.
Nothing, in other words, to do with us Americans.
Then I have a right to call you out and be really offended because it's my family.
There you have it.
Tucker Carlson very clearly stating that he despises conservatives
like Nikki Haley, a notable neocon, and Ben Shapiro, also a neocon.
Look, I, I'm going to pause and ask you for comment immediately, John,
because I don't know what to make of this.
Right.
I, I acknowledge that there are people who I overwhelmingly disagree with on the.
On an overwhelmingly number, an overwhelming number of topics.
Okay.
And Tucker Carlson happens to be one of them.
But one of the things that he's been pretty consistent on
is this anti-war narrative.
And at first I thought it was just a ploy, an attempt to appear more populist,
to grow his audience numbers or maybe potentially run
as president in the future.
But I'm starting to think he really means it.
And I agree with him. Not as much on on Ukraine.
I do think that we had made a commitment to Ukraine
and we should keep that commitment.
I think there needs to be a lot more accountability and oversight
in regard to how they spend the money, the military funds that we provide for them.
I am not supportive of of sending Israel more money at all.
And he seems to be in that camp as well, which was kind of shocking and surprising.
He's less vociferous.
He's talking more about American boots on the ground in Gaza or something.
True.
But like, bear in mind that like all of the Republicans
who posture as being anti war, which only means not American nation building,
it does not mean that our military budget would ever shrink even slightly.
It doesn't mean that we wouldn't have military bases
in like 170 different countries.
I know, I know, but we're not only funding our military, John.
We're funding other military.
Yeah, 100%, which, by the way, look, if all we care about is his policy
stance directly on America, then I still would attack him in a variety of ways.
But when he is posturing, as it's about kids and how dare you throw away Kit?
He's perfectly fine with Russia literally just trampling Ukraine
into the ground, murdering tens, hundreds of thousands of civilians.
So to act as if it's like every life must be saved.
- No, no, no. - It's about his kids.
He was pretty clear. It's about my.
Well, look, I certainly buy that he cares about his kids, and he will only gradually
expand the circle of his compassion very slightly for people who share
demographic characteristics with him.
I do buy that. But even then.
Okay, so he's angry at someone who would theoretically send his.
Again, the hypothetical is ridiculous. The idea, it is ridiculous.
They're going to be drafted and it's going to be a nuclear war.
And whatever I need to add to this equation so I look morally superior.
But he's also fine with absolutely trashing our climate.
His kids need to live on earth. His grandkids need to live on earth.
Where's your compassion for future generations in that Tucker Carlson?
Meanwhile, he's doing everything he can with his platform to make sure that people
don't believe the climate science.
Yeah.
And also, by the way, on Ben Shapiro, I don't I don't follow a lot of Ben Shapiro.
Ben Shapiro says he's not advocating for either of those things.
He says he's never suggested that we should have American boots
on the ground in Gaza, and that he's.
I don't even know what the reference to Middle East violence is, but like Ben
Shapiro can be wrong in a lot of stuff.
That doesn't mean he's taken the positions that Tucker Carlson asserts that he has.
Yeah.
And look, to be fair, I haven't seen anything from Ben Shapiro
indicating that he would want boots on the ground in Gaza or in Ukraine.
So you're right about that.
But he has been I mean, listen, he's incredibly supportive
of anything Israel wants to do.
Sure.
And so, yeah, he loves the unwavering support that the U.S.
Government has provided for Israel.
And we continue to send billions of dollars to Israel, even as
they're carrying out war crimes in Gaza.
Ben Shapiro has cosigned that. He's in favor of that.
Same with Ukraine.
I remember the last time I had a conversation with Ben Shapiro on his show
as part of his Sunday special.
He made it abundantly clear that he is 1,000% supportive of U.S.
Military aid going to Ukraine. He thinks it's a smart thing to do.
So these are the issues that kind of lead to this division
within the Republican umbrella that I think is really fascinating,
and it's been growing in recent months, and I'm curious to see how it plays out.
But Shapiro did respond to Tucker Carlson.
And there's like some confusion about the timing of that interview
with Tucker Carlson.
When did it actually take place? Why was it recently released?
So X user Ron.
Filipkowski is the person who had posted that snippet of Tucker
Carlson's interview with Russell Brand where he said that he despised people
like Nikki Haley and Ben Shapiro.
Ben Shapiro responded to it saying that Tucker is simply lying about my positions.
I've been calling for a negotiated end to the Ukraine war,
freezing the line lines of conflict since early on in the war, when.
Russia had taken a significant portion of Ukrainian territory.
He's saying he wants to give a significant portion of Ukraine to Russia.
I don't even think I don't believe him on that, because I spoke to him in October of
not last year, but the year before that.
He wasn't advocating for that.
I don't know anyway. But let me continue now.
I have never called for American boots on the ground.
That is true in Ukraine ever.
I have never called for American boots to defend Israel, ever.
I've invited Tucker to sit down multiple times over the past few weeks to
clear the air and discuss our differences.
He said he's willing, but his.
Team has told us that he's busy for months because of all of his foreign travel.
That offer remains open.
- Go easy. - On Tucker.
There's a lot of dictators that he's got to help whitewash and do propaganda for.
So I just I just want to say, I, I think that that was
a mature response by Shapiro.
I give him credit for that.
He didn't roll around in the mud, as others often do
when these kinds of conflicts arise.
And look, I disagree with both of them on a lot of different things on this issue.
I don't want to support Israel with more military funding if they're
going to continue their aerial bombardment and complete flattening of the Gaza Strip.
Yeah.
So I guess I sighed a little more on on in Tucker's direction on, on this issue.
But again, I don't really know what's in the heart and mind of Tucker Carlson,
because we're so deeply divided on everything else.
We might have millions of people watching this show, but you can be
the difference maker because we just need 1% of our audience to be paid members.
And then this show can be around forever, so you can make that difference.
- Click join now. - Well, I think that's not the only reason.
You don't necessarily know what's in his heart and mind.
To the extent that he can have anything in his heart.
Ben Shapiro said that he lied about him, and if he lied about him, do you know
why Tucker Carlson lied about Ben Shapiro?
Why? Because he's a massive liar.
He's a massive to his core liar about his supposed most foundational principles.
And it only bothers Ben Shapiro now because he's telling a lie about him.
Did Ben Shapiro do critical commentary when it was revealed, via Tucker's own,
text messages, that he'd been just lying about liking Donald Trump and supporting
Donald Trump and the MAGA movement, that he thinks it's a force for destruction.
He was desperately hoping that Donald Trump
would no longer be a political figure.
He just lied to his audience about that, about about election integrity,
about the January 6th and all that.
Just lied and lied and lied for years. Ben Shapiro never had a problem with it.
And his only problem is the current lie he wants to have Tucker Carlson on
so they can have a nice conversation about politics and everything.
As if Tucker Carlson has not been repeatedly outed
as a massive propagandist and liar.
So I guess I'm on his side in terms of this lie, but it's super opportunistic.
His defense of him, he still is perfectly fine with Tucker Carlson, have some
having some sort of credibility, as if he's a serious political actor whose words
match anything that he truly believes.
And he isn't just a guy who's desperately chasing an audience,
like basically throughout his career, changing his positions
as the political winds have changed.
Well, making this story a little more complicated
is the timing of that interview with Tucker Carlson and Russell Brand.
So even though, Philip Filipkowski posted
this just recently, the episode itself was apparently published February 1st,
which wasn't that long ago.
Right? It's the 14th Valentine's Day.
But according to The Daily Wire co-founder and CEO Jeremy Boring,
Tucker's team says this conversation with Russell was recorded last year, long
before Ben invited Tucker to discuss their differences in person on January 2nd.
I'll take them at their word, but that's just all the more reason
Tucker needs to sit down with Ben ASAP.
Instead of shadow boxing, a caricature of Ben Shapiro he made up in his own head.
So again, why are you taking them at their word?
- They're massive liars. - That's the take.
We'll see how this plays out.
But this isn't the first time I've seen conflict brewing
between Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiro.
Tucker Carlson's been taking some jabs at Shapiro on his show, and I think it's
getting getting to a point where Shapiro feels that he needs to respond.
And I think he wants to have that conversation
to kind of bring the temperature down.
I don't know if it's.
He wants to have the conversation because he thinks it'll get a lot of views.
I think that that maybe all of politics is for these people really fast.
You know what?
At least my theory for why he's taking all these shots at Ben Shapiro now.
Why it's because now Ben Shapiro is his competition.
He used to be on TV. He's not on TV anymore.
Now he's just got an internet show.
He's trying to take Ben's audience, that's all.
They're just going to fight and squabble over their little audience.
That's what they're.
Doing. Look, that could be true.
I don't know for sure, but it could be true.
And I've definitely seen that happen quite a bit on the left.
So why wouldn't it happen on the right? Of course it could happen on the right.
But Candace Owens same thing with the feud.
Sure, yes, but there is. Okay.
Ignore the big name media personalities, okay?
And focus on the electorate.
Focus on the voters in the Republican Party.
You have to acknowledge that there's been a growing divide between the neocon wing,
which luckily is shrinking.
But the downside of the neocon wing shrinking is you have the MAGA wing
of the Republican Party, which I think is a little bit better
on foreign policy related matters, not better on other issues.
I'm look, I definitely think that there is that divide.
I just don't think that that divide is what they would say it is.
It's something.
It's just not that Marjorie Greene would imply that she's anti-intervention,
but she literally wants to invade Mexico.
Your antiwar.
But again, you're perfectly happy with Russia taking over Eastern Europe.
Are you anti-war, or are you just fine?
As long as we're not involved in it, you're perfectly fine with our weapons
and our training being used to prosecute wars in Yemen and other places, like.
And you're perfectly happy for our military budget to continue to grow
you just like more of our soldiers, I guess, to be stateside as we waste
an ever increasing percentage of our budget on military defense.
So some of those things are kind of better, but they're nothing
like the left's position on any of this.
No, I wouldn't make the mistake of thinking that.
But on a very surface level, I think that there could be a potential
coalition among some isolationists and peace loving left wingers.
Maybe for right now, they're both going to support Donald Trump, who kept us in the
same wars that we were in when he became president, as we were in when he left.
But, you know, Russia didn't invade Ukraine when he was president.
- Think about it. - That's true.
You're right. I'm MAGA.
Now get me my red hat.
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