INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING.
WHILE GM IS UP NEARLY 1% ON
THAT.
>>> NEXT CASE.
OUR NEXT GUEST, HE HELPED TO
CATCH THE MEXICAN DRUG LORD
"EL CHAPO," AND HE HAS WRITTEN A
BOOK ABOUT IT.
JOINING US FORMER DEA AGENT AND
AUTHOR OF "HUNTING EL CHEP POE."
DREW HOGAN.
HOW DID YOU GRAB THIS GUY.
>> STARTED COOPERATION AND
BUILDING RIGHT TEAM, FROM DEA,
FROM HSI, TO THE U.S. MARSHALS
AND IN WITH OUR PARTNERS IN
MEXICO WITH THE MEXICAN MARINES
BUT, YOU KNOW, TO START, IT WAS
A BREAKDOWN OF HIS SOPHISTICATED
COMMUNICATIONS STRUCTURE AND
REALLY TARGETING HIS INNER
ORGANIZATION.
STUART: YOU PENETRATED HIS INNER
CIRCLE AND FOUND OUT WHERE HE
WAS.
WHERE WAS HE?
>> RIGHT.
BY TARGETING THE PHONES.
HE WAS IN A STRONG HOLD IN
SINALOA, THE STATE, CAPITAL OF
THE MEXICAN DRUG TRAFFICKING
UNDERWORLD.
STUART: HOW DID YOU LISTEN TO
HIS PHONE CALLS?
DID YOU USE THE CIA?
OR DO YOU HAVE YOUR OWN --
>> NO, WE HAD A CRACK TEAM OF
HSI AGENTS UP IN THE STATES
RUNNING ALL THE WIRE INTERCEPTS.
THEY WERE SENDING ME THE LINE
SHEETS AND ABLE TO DIOCESE THOSE
AND FIGURE OUT HIS INNER
STRUCTURE AND HIS ORGANIZATION
TO PIN HIM DOWN.
STUART: SO YOU GOT HIM IN HIS
STRONG HOLD.
YOU SURROUND HIM WITH THE
MEXICAN ARMY, MEXICAN MARINES.
>> MEXICAN MARINES.
AND WE HIT IT AND HE ESCAPED.
STUART: WENT IN WITH GUNs
BLAZING.
>> THERE WERE NO SHOT FIRED.
STUART: HES ESCAPED?
>> DOWN UNDERNEATH THE BATHTUB.
STUART: I KNOW HE ESCAPED FROM
PRISON ONCE YOU GOT HIM BUT HE
ESCAPED FROM THE STRONG HOLD.
>> ON OUR FIRST HIT.
STUART: HOW DID YOU GET HIM?
>> THROUGH SUSTAINED AND
PERSISTENT OPERATIONS.
WE STAYED ON HIM.
WE KNEW HE MADE A QUICK TRIP
DOWN TO MAZATLAN.
HE WAS HOLED UP IN A HOTEL ROOM.
STUART: HOW DID YOU FIND HIM
DOWN THERE?
AGAIN TELEPHONE INTERCEPTS?
>> TELEPHONE INTERCEPTS AND
PINGING DEVICE OF HIS TOP
SECRETARY STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO
HIM.
STUART: SO YOU GOT HIM IN A
HOTEL ROOM IN MAZATLAN.
THE MARINES WENT IN AGAIN?
>> THEY WENT IN AND BANGED THE
DOOR DOWN.
THERE HE WAS RIFLE IN HAND.
HE PUT THE RIFLE DOWN.
THEY TOOK HIM IN CUSTODY.
STUART: DID YOU EVER SEE HIM,
MEET I AM.
>> I CAME FACE-TO-FACE WITH HIM
SECONDS AFTER THAT.
STUART: YOU WERE IN THE BUST?
>> I WAS, STANDING OUT IN FRONT
OF THE HOTEL MAKING SURE THE
PERIMETER WAS SECURE.
AS SOON AS THEY HAD THE TARGET,
I RAN IN, AND I WAS WEARING HIS
BLACK BALL CAP I HAD TAKEN FROM
HIS SAFE HOUSE.
BLACK SKI MASK.
RAN UP TO HIM IN HIS FACE, AND
YELLED, WHAT'S UP CHAPO!
RIGHT IN HIS FACE.
WE COULD HAVE LOCKED EYES FOR A
SECOND.
HE JUMPED BACK, AND PUT HIM INTO
THE FIRST CAR THERE, AND THE
MARINES TOOK HIM OUT.
STUART: WHOA.
RIGHT IN HIS FACE?
>> IN HIS FACE.
STUART: YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID,
RIGHT AT BEGINNING OF THE
INTERVIEW, SHOULD HAVE GRABBED
IT RIGHT THERE WITH THAT ONE.
THAT IS VERY GOOD, YOUNG MAN.
OFF HE GOES TO PRISON AND
ESCAPES FROM PRISON?
>> RIGHT.
STUART: IS THERE ANY PRISON, I
KNOW WHERE HE IS NOW, BUT I TAKE
HE STAYS WITH HE IS NOW.
>> HE IS TO THE SOUTH OF US
LOCKED UP 23 HOURS A DAY IN
MANHATTAN.
STUART: HE IS IN MANHATTAN NOW.
COUPLE HUNDRED YARDS AWAY FROM
THE STUDIO.
>> SURE IS.
STUART: LOCKED UP 23 HOURS A
DAY?
>> YES.
THAT IS WHERE HE NEEDS TO BE.
THEY HAVE BEEN TOUGH ON HIM.
THE JUDGE HAS BEEN FIRM WITH
HIM.
THAT IS THE ONLY WAY FROM
GAINING ONE STEP AHEAD.
HE ALWAYS BEEN.
STUART: HE NEVER GETS OUT?
>> WON'T GET OUT HERE.
NOT IN THE UNITED STATES.
STUART: YOU HAVE THAT LOOK ON
YOUR FACE.
NOT IN THE UNITED STATES.
STUART: WAIT A SECOND, PRESIDENT
TRUMP WANTS TO IMPOSE DEATH
PENALTY ON MAJOR LEAGUE DRUG
DEALERS.
"EL CHAPO" WOULD QUALIFY.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE HIM GET
THE DEATH PENALTY?
>> THAT IS NOT MY DETERMINATION
TO MAKE.
I PUT HIM AWAY.
NOW PROSECUTOR IS IN CHARGE OF
THAT.
STUART: WERE YOU THE GUY IN
CHARGE OF PUTTING HIM AWAY, WERE
YOU THE LEADER?
>> I WAS LEADER ALONG WITH
AGENTS OF DSI AROUND DEA.
STUART: DON'T BE BASHFUL.
>> ESSENTIALLY THE QUARTERBACK.
STUART: CONGRATULATIONS, DREW.
>> THANK YOU.
STUART: THAT WAS REALLY
TERRIFIC.
YOU TOILED THE STORY SO WELL.
THAT IS WHAT I WANTED.
I WANT AD GOOD STORY HERE.
THE NAME OF THE BOOK IS "HUNTING