I THINK WE HAVE TO REASSESS OUR
VIEWS OF AGING AND ALL THAT.
HERE’S KELLYANNE CONWAY.
FORMER COUNSELOR TO PRESIDENT
TRUMP, NOW A FOX NEWS
CONTRIBUTOR.
HAROLD FORD JUMP, FORMER
DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN OF
TENNESSEE, NOW CO HOST OF "THE
FIVE."
GREAT TO HAVE BOTH OF YOU WITH
US THIS AFTERNOON.
YOU KNOW, THE AGE ISSUE IS REAL.
IT’S A QUESTION THAT I THINK A
LOT OF VOTERS WILL GRAPPLE WITH
ON BOTH SIDES.
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND PRESIDENT
BIDEN ARE ONLY FOUR YEARS APART.
EVERYBODY CAN JUDGE WHAT THEY
THINK ABOUT THAT.
KELLYANNE, YOU WERE THIS WEEKEND
OUT IN LAS VEGAS WHERE THERE
WERE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WANT
TO BE THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE AND
A LOT OF HANKERING FOR NEW
LEADERSHIP.
HERE NIKKI HALEY, ONE OF THE
SPEAKERS THIS WEEKEND.
>> IT’S TIME FOR A YOUNGER
GENERATION TO LEAD ACROSS THE
BOARD.
AFTER THE MID-TERMS, I’M MORE
DETERMINED THAN EVER TO FIGHT
WITH EVERYTHING THAT I’VE GOT TO
BRING STRENGTH BACK TO OUR
COUNTRY.
>> SO KELLYANNE, YOU ALSO SPOKE
TO THE CROWD.
WHAT THE DID YOU HAVE TO TELL
THEM ABOUT THIS?
>> I TOLD THEM THAT I’M NOT
RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT IN 2024.
I’LL TELL THEM WHAT THEY NEED TO
KNOW.
I WAS STEPS AWAY FROM NIKKI
HALEY WHEN SHE GAVE THAT ADDRESS
AND STEPS AWAY FROM RON DESANTIS
AFTERWARDS.
NEITHER ONE MENTIONED DONALD
TRUMP’S NAME.
THEY WERE GIVING A LOT OF CREDIT
FOR THE GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN
THE AUDIENCE LIKE THAT, MARTHA
AND HAROLD WHERE THEY’RE
THRILLED ABOUT THE ABRAHAM
ACCORDS AND PRESIDENT TRUMP THE
FIRST OF SEVEN PRESIDENTS TO
KEEP A PROMISE TO MOVE THE
ISRAELI EMBASSY TO JERUSALEM.
PRESIDENT TRUMP ALSO SPOKE BY
VIDEO.
WELL-RECEIVED.
HE GOT STANDING OVATIONS.
I THINK THE REPUBLICAN PARTY,
THE FOX NEWS VOTER SHOWS THAT
THEY IMPROVED THEIR MARGIN AMONG
JEWISH VOTERS BY SIX POINTS.
THAT’S BEEN STEADILY INCREASING
WITH HISPANICS AND AFRICAN
AMERICANS AND SUBURBAN WHITE
WOMEN.
SO WE SEE SOME OF THESE
DEMOGRAPHICS COMING OVER TO THE
PARTY OF THE WORKER.
IT’S A FREE COUNTRY.
PEOPLE CAN RUN FOR PRESIDENT.
I’LL TELL YOU FIRST HAND, IT’S
SUPER HARD TO WIN A PRESIDENTIAL
ELECTION.
IT LOOKS EASY.
DONORS DON’T CHOOSE THE
NOMINEES.
VOTERS CHOOSE THEM.
THERE’S MORE VOTERS THAN DONORS.
THEY’RE SUCCESSFUL IN LIFE
AND --
>> Martha: KELLYANNE, MY
QUESTION IS, DO YOU THINK THAT
IT’S TIME FOR NEW LEADERSHIP?
DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT IDEA?
DO YOU AGREE WITH WHAT NIKKI
HALEY SAID?
>> WITH JOE BIDEN THE WHITE
HOUSE?
ABSOLUTELY.
HAPPY 80th BIRTHDAY.
>> Martha: WHAT ABOUT ON THE
REPUBLICAN SIDE?
>> HE WAS JUST ON THE CUSP OF
BEING 78, DEAN PHILLIPS WHEN HE
WAS ELECTED TWO YEARS AGO.
I DON’T THINK IT’S AGE.
IT’S POLICIES.
JOE BIDEN DOESN’T DESERVE A
SECOND TERM BECAUSE OF HIS
POLICIES.
HE’S SPENT TRILLIONS ON THINGS
THAT WE DIDN’T ASK FOR.
HE ABANDONED 13 SERVICE MEMBERS
THAT TIED IN AFGHANISTAN.
ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT,
INTELLIGENCE ON THE AIRSTRIP
THERE.
FOUR MILLION PEOPLE WALKED
ACROSS THE BORDER.
WE’RE LESS SAFE, LESS
PROSPEROUS.
>> Martha: OBVIOUSLY YOU’RE
RIGHT.
THERE’S A QUESTION OF POLICY ON
BOTH SIDES.
BUT THERE’S A LOT OF DISCUSSION
ABOUT THIS, HAROLD.
IT’S ON PEOPLE’S MINDS.
SO ON YOUR SIDE OF THE PARTY, DO
YOU BELIEVE IT’S TIME TO MOVE ON
AND, YOU KNOW, WE SAW A LOT OF
POTENTIAL CANDIDATES IN
LAS VEGAS.
WHO ARE THOSE PEOPLE ON YOUR
SIDE?
>> FIRST THANKS FOR HAVING ME
ON.
LOOK, I THINK IF PRESIDENT BIDEN
WERE MEASURING UP TO EVERYTHING
THAT SEEMS LIKE 58, 59, 60% OF
THE COUNTRY, IF THEY APPROVED OF
HIS POLICIES, THEY WOULDN’T CARE
ABOUT HIS AGE.
THIS IS ABOUT POLICY ACUTIE.
MID-TERMS ARE ALWAYS A TEST OF
THE PRESIDENT’S POLICIES.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS ABOUT A
DRAW.
REPUBLICANS DID GET CONTROL OF
THE HOUSE BY A NARROW MARGIN.
DEMOCRATS MAY INDEED INCREASE
THEIR MARGIN IN THE SENATE.
THEY’RE GOING TO KEEP THEIR
MAJORITY.
THE COUNTRY GOT THEM DIVIDED
GOVERNMENT THAT IT WANTS.
WHO AM I TO SAY IF SOMEONE IS
TOO OLD-TOO YOUNG.
I WAS ELECTED TO CONGRESS WHEN I
WAS 26.
THAT WAS THE MAIN GRIPE AGAINST
ME WITH MY COMPETITORS.
I’LL LET THE VOTERS MAKE THAT
DECISION.
THIS LAST ELECTION IS THAT
VOTERS MIGHT TAKE AWHY FROM IT
FROM BOTH PARTIES, PEOPLE IN
WASHINGTON WANT PEOPLE TO WORK
TOGETHER.
IF YOU DO THAT, YOU’LL BE
REWARDED.
IF YOU DON’T, YOU’LL LOSE.
>> Martha: QUICK QUESTION.
I NEED A QUICK ANSWER,
KELLYANNE, THIS IS BILL BARR
SAYING WHAT THEY THINKS THE
FORMER PRESIDENT WILL DO IF HE
DOESN’T GET THE NOMINATION AND
ELSE DOES.
LISTEN.
THE THREAT IS SAMPLE.
UNLESS THE REST OF THE PARTY
GOES WITH HIM, HE WILL BURN THE
WHOLE HOUSE DOWN BY LEADING HIS
PEOPLE OUT OF THE GOP.
TRUMP’S WILLINGNESS TO DESTROY
THE PARTY IF HE DOES NOT GET HIS
WAY IS NOT BASED ON PRINCIPLE
BUT HIS OWN SUPREME NARCISSISM.
IF HE DOESN’T GET THE
NOMINATION, THE FORMER
PRESIDENT, WILL HE SUPPORT THE
PERSON THAT DOES.
>> YES, I THINK HE WILL.
I THINK BECAUSE OF THE BIDEN
TRUMP CAGE MATCH REMATCH
POSSIBILITY HERE, MARTHA, YOU’LL
HEAR A LOT MORE ABOUT A THIRD
WAY, NO LABELS, THIRD PARTIES.
NEITHER OF THE ABOVE.
SO THOSE FOLKS WILL BE RAKING IN
THE MILLIONS TO PRETEND THAT
THIS COMPANY WILL ELECT A
THIRD-PARTY CANDIDATE.
IT NEVER DOES.
THEY SAY THEY WANT TO.
I’M PROUD THAT WE HAVE THESE
YOUNG GOVERNORS THAT ARE
INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL.
SOME OF WHOM ARE THERE THIS
WEEKEND AND WHO ARE DOING GREAT
THINGS.
BUT VERY QUICKLY, ATTORNEY
GENERAL BARR THAT I WORKED
CLOSELY WITH.
HE WANTED THAT JOB.
HE SERVED PRESIDENT TRUMP.
IT GETS LOST NOW IN ALL OF THESE
OBJECTIONS.
BUT I DON’T THINK THIS IS ABOUT
AGE.
IT’S ABOUT ACUTIE AND WHO HAS
THE BEST VISION FORWARD.
BIDEN’S AMERICA, TRUMP’S
AMERICA, WHEN WERE YOU BETTER
OFF, WHEN WERE YOU PAYING LESS
AND WHEN DID YOU FEEL MORE SAFE
AND SECURE.
>> Martha: THANKS TO YOU BOTH.
THE BEGINNING OF A CONVERSATION
PLAYING OUT IN A BIG WAY.
THESE THINGS GO FASTER THAN WE
THINK.
HAROLD, GOOD TO SEE YOU.
THANKS VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE,