So starting around two years ago and really hitting a bit of a crescendo
the last year with the coronavirus restrictions both in terms of travel and opening has been the
number of inquiries that I've received from guys who don't just want to travel here in Ukraine but
actually want to live at least three months of the year in Ukraine whether it happens to be in Kyiv or Odesa
where I am right now Dnipro maybe it's Kharkiv maybe it's Lviv so in today's Tip Thursday with
me Conor Clyne I'm gonna go into the five types of Western guy that moves to Ukraine
these are guys that I just met casually, clients that I've helped in person with moving here and
some guys that I actually try to avoid when i'm here so let's get into it поехали!
So the first kind of Western guy that you are likely to bump into
maybe not the first one you actually physically bump into but the most kind of I guess
historically common since Ukraine became an independent independent country is the Russophile/
Ukrainophile as it's become maybe a little bit more popular recently so it's guys who have
studied Russian at university maybe or taken maybe a business degree where they focus on the
former Soviet Union or like I did international relations an MA in that with a focus on the former
soviet union they've studied Russian to a certain extent now more recently as I said may also have studied
Ukrainian you also have guys who are interested in learning Ukrainian because they have ancestry here
especially in the west of the country and they tend to be drawn here for the obvious reason that
they have a skill set that's quite interesting to have obviously if you're doing business here
and they've been genuinely interested in the culture and the politics or just the economy
here for a long number of years now sliding across to the second type of Western guy
is well most Russophiles or Ukrainophiles also notice the plethora of beautiful women here in
Ukraine not just Ukraine but in the former Soviet Union and whilst their primary motivation might be
the language and the culture obviously not adverse to that as well pretty girls and that's a segue
into the second type of Western guy which is like the sexy Slavic girl playboy right so it's guys
who are not particularly interested in the culture per se outside the fact that there are beautiful
women here now you may also derogatorily refer to them as sexpats I think that's maybe a little
unfair from the stereotype of what a sexpat is that's normally someone who's paying for commercial
sex when they're living in a poorer country for example I wouldn't classify them as that but
they basically don't really have a great interest in the country outside of the women they spend a
lot of time here been coming from many years never bothered normally to learn the language
have no don't really do any business here they may pretend that that's why they're here but
in reality they don't then of course if all the women left here they'd also be on the next boat or
more likely not a boat across the Black Sea but on the next flight out here for somewhere else
so as an afterthought for the first two
types of Western guys that you're likely to bump into here in Ukraine I'm reminded of
something a friend of mine an Italian friend of mine Luigi said to me many moons ago
Siamo venuti per le ragazze ma siamo rimasti per
l'atmosfera qua in Ucraina so something along the lines that we came for the chicks but we stayed for the
vibe here in Ukraine and the third type of Western guy that you are likely to meet is an Italian guy
that I bumped into quite literally in a bar here in Dnipro over the weekend and he is
the digital nomad and this is obviously a pretty new phenomenon in the sense that digital nomadism
has developed quite gradually but probably exploded in the last two years in particular
and you bump into a lot of digital nomads now of course we have a little bit of a grey area what's a
digital nomad especially with this pandemic a lot of people were able to work remotely
but maybe don't consider themselves digital nomads well the typical profile and this doesn't go for every
digital nomad is especially here in Ukraine it's going to be a guy almost certainly not a girl
going to be a guy who came to Ukraine who is normally we'll say between maybe 25 to 40
starting out obviously and making money pretty much and it's probably got you know somewhere
between three to ten thousand US dollars a month in income that he's able to work online and he
can casually move around and live this kind of travel lifestyle and make good money but
not good enough money to be to have a lavish lifestyle say in the West in Western Europe
like in Paris or London or in New York and not enough money to be a real baller here
in Ukraine because there are spectacularly wealthy Ukrainians as well so this kind of baller
level they would be priced out of both that and kind of a lavish lifestyle luxury lifestyle in
the West so they use that arbitrage opportunity to move between countries across the globe where
the cost of living is is cheap because they have that freedom so a lot of them will be in Southeast
Asia in the Philippines in Bali in Thailand and you have a certain number of them who come here
to Ukraine so what are the kind of stereotypical characteristics that they have a bit like the
slavic sexy slavic girl playboy types they're not interested in the culture here they're drawn by
a lot of the benefits of coming to Ukraine which are the low cost of living and the fact that they're single
guys so they are looking for pretty girls right so this is the main reason why they take Ukraine
I would say maybe five years ago a lot of these guys would have based themselves in Hungary but
they've now come further east because it's cheaper here and I would argue that women are prettier
in Ukraine than Hungary that's just my taste they tend to almost exclusively hang out with other
digital nomads I would say who use English they go on lots of dates with girls they kind of
you know plow through tinder or plow through a bar as I saw these guys doing over the weekend just
talking to every girl and they're not really putting down any roots here because they can
move with so freely and they're not that committed to Ukraine or its culture they're here because
of those two main factors which are great factors to come here of course but what happens to a lot
of them is that they get scammed a lot but they do tend to get caught out they tend to rely on
being a Westerner a lot to try attract girls and you know there's a lot of girls who just
do the very light restaurant scam here and they tend to you know exploit these kind of guys a lot
I hear a lot of them complain about it so yeah they're not really committed to Ukraine as well
and it's not just about obviously the girls and stuff it's more that they yeah cost of living
is one of the big attractions here for them that brings me to fourth type of Western guy that
I help a lot as clients here in Ukraine that is more the well the baller business owner
right who's able to manage his business remotely enough that he can spend three to 12 months a year
here in Ukraine and these guys typically make you know they have well in excess of 10k/month which is you
know obviously there's a bit of a blurry line between digital nomad and just being a remote
business owner but we'll say from what I can see in terms of groups of people these guys come they
have a lot more cash first of all so let's say a minimum 10k/month but normally way in excess of that
they're here to live a baller lifestyle they can afford it they can also afford it actually in the
West pretty much as well and they are interested in maybe not putting down roots in the sense
they're going to live the rest of their lives here but they normally invest in real estate they
make a lot of connections and friends with local people both guys and girls because you know they
want to reap the benefits of investing in a network here and yeah they're looking to
kind of 5x their lifestyle which is what I often talk about in these videos because they
obviously and most of them are also single men and so they also I take advantage of kind of
the beauty arbitrage in moving to Eastern Europe but they do tend to have a lot of value they
don't tend to get cut out as much by scammers I would say and they don't exclusively hang out in
groups of just expats I guess English speaking expert bubble they try to keep away from that
kind of scene but they definitely have come here strategically to maximize their lifestyle
as opposed to hey it's cheap I'm making this money online let's go hang out in Ukraine for you know a
while they're pretty focused on you know investing and getting the most out of their experience here
and that brings me on to the fifth type of a Western guy that you're likely to meet it's
a little bit different it's again you know we're kind of going segwaying on and I would see it as
guys who are kind of independently wealthy maybe not not really running a business now there might
be crypto guys who made a lot in cryptocurrencies recently and are now cashing out and I know that obviously
investing is work it's not like they don't do anything to make them money obviously but they're
cashing out of it so they're kind of taking the money that they've earned and now they're gonna
settle here in Ukraine maybe they're gonna do something in the future like invest in business
or something else but they're not going to really run a business remotely from here and they're not
a digital nomad who's going to be traveling around to lots of different places just
and you know kind of like a drifter or something like that it could also be retirees and I guess
if you cash out of crypto at the age of 25 you're also you can also retire but maybe older guys
as well maybe up to the boomers side 55 plus who decide to relocate here to Ukraine because
again the cost of living differential is very attractive and maybe they don't have ties keeping
them to the US or Western Europe so they decide this is the place to move to so these guys tend to be
you know a little bit similar to the kind of remote business owner baller guys since they
have you know a substantial amount of money and can live a lifestyle here but they're not going
to run a business they might be normally they're they're playing long term they buy
again real estate invest in that here and then you know live out a lot of their life here so
also they want to have local friends those also I help a good few of those guys
with my program Slavic Utopia Secrets: Ukraine also on consulting calls so if you are interested
in well you watched until the end of this video about what kind of other Western guys move here so
I'm guessing you are interested in spending three to twelve months a year here in Ukraine you're
going to need an optimal visa strategy because for most of us we get 90 days visa free every 180
which means that you can come for three months but then you gotta leave for three months and come back
so you need a strategy to get around that which is basically getting a visa, temporary or permanent
residency also have a primer video on that that I'll link up and up above and below and
in the my program we go into that and we figure out exactly what is your optimal visa strategy
for spending more than three months here a year or per six months and we dive into as I mentioned the
real estate market that is a huge huge huge draw here because there are massive opportunities in
terms of the cost of real estate versus the West it's massive massive difference also you're going
to have to have a strategy overcome the language barrier if you're spending a lot of time here
also huge business opportunities here in Ukraine stuff that's already been validated in the West
hasn't been implemented going to go into that and also the medical system kind of an important one
especially for the guys who are maybe thinking of retiring but that becomes a higher priority
we go into obviously again the cost of getting medical procedures here in Ukraine is a fraction
of the West so we also have a good bit of medical tourism for that reason
but also we go into having you know what to do in emergency and stuff like that and to
set yourself up for making the most of the health system here and basically how to come here and 5x
your lifestyle it's on demand that program gonna link it down below maybe you'd prefer like some of
my consulting clients just to jump on a call and have a consulting call we can also do that
together so I'll link that down below as well in the description and if you're not on my
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my most loyal finds in on that when it starts out so down below there's going to be also a link to
my to get on my free mailing list and in exchange there is a free gift there it's my Tsar's hotspots
to cities like Kyiv and Odesa also got Minsk there if you're thinking of maybe taking a short hop
over to neighboring Belarus so let me know down in the comments as well if you are an a Westerner
who's moved to Ukraine and you fit into those one of those five categories, maybe you're a blend of
two or you start out one and became the other or you think there are other categories that I
should have mentioned I didn't talk about say the sexpat because I think that's become a
little bit of thing of the past here you don't see those kind of guys here you know guys
are looking just to hang out somewhere it's cheap and pay hookers basically for sex those
guys tend to go to Latin America and Southeast Asia I don't see that so much of course there's
some of it there's of course sex tourism here also another thing you don't see the phenomenon
of the loser back home so much there would be guys who maybe take up an English teaching job
didn't have much going on from back home suddenly end up somewhere where just speaking English is a
huge advantage and then they you know they kind of get higher social status anyways there's kind of
people use that term to describe especially a lot of expats who move to say Southeast Asia or China I've
seen it used but again don't really see those guys so much here in Ukraine but maybe you have you've
seen something different I've met different people anyways let me know all that good stuff down below
in the comments that is the end of today's video I got a beautiful evening on the banks of the river
Dnipro in the city of Dnipro in the center of the country so I bid you a до побачення до свидания до встречи!