tiptoes around it and then after Sunday's game, it becomes
clear. Something's up. And now Monday, let's hear from Mikvah.
It's now obvious that he is thinking about leaving and he
is engaged in a very public
and open conversation about whether or not he's going to
come back, here's McVeigh on making his decision about what
he's going to do in 2023
going to take the next couple days.
To really be able to kind of reflect. Obviously a lot of
conversations with various people that will dictate and
determine
the decision that's best for me. My family,
the Rams and a lot of people and that's kind of where we're
at with that. This has been years, this isn't like,
this isn't a new thing.
This is
this has been something that I think is going on. For those of
you guys that know me for a handful of years, but it's
a beautiful challenge. I wouldn't change this for the world. This
needed to occur.
This was a necessary part of the growth in the development
you know for me to be the person that I need to be
instead of worrying about some things that maybe you worried
about before that you wouldn't have realized had you not gone
through this experience
and being around the players and the coaches and the way
that they've handled that and so for that, I am grateful and
that's where you just figure out. Alright, what is the best
way to continue to move forward
in the right way to be the best coach that you can possibly be?
Because I don't get this.
Sense in the least bit. I'm done coaching.
All right. It's just a matter of what does that look like as
it relates to the immediate future
is more about? You know what you're really working through
right now.
I let me just say this, Sean mcveigh's 36, I got a nephew
just about his age and I would say
to Sean if he were my nephew and it's got it makes me feel
freaking old to say this whole time.
Old-timer old man? For real. Listen, go ahead and go and
play. The piano is the background music while I say
this, but I would say Don't, I want to hear that Shawn, right,
Sean? You're already done. Sean. Sean. You're the last one
to figure it out. I mean, you're Bruce well. So it sounds
like it's over right for you to be talking about it like that.
It's over. And there's a point where you're going to piss
a lot of people off by engaging in this public. Soliloquy about
what you're thinking,
Sean Payton just left. Sean, Payton didn't feel the need to
wallow publicly in. What am I going to do? He just left. It
was gone. Now, we know what he was trying to do is trying to
get to Miami but that's fine. Whatever it is, it Shawn?
He's trying to do just do it. You don't have to talk about it
because you know what? Shawn if you wake up this morning and
you decide like George Bailey at the end of
It's a Wonderful Life. I want to coach again
you've had a vision of what the NFL would have looked like if
you'd never existed or whatever the three Christmas Ghost came
to you. Whatever it is that cause you to have an epiphany
that you're going to stay man that's a lot of toothpaste to
put back in the tube. Now that you've sprayed it all over
the place,
you never should have done that and sometimes I think that
people do that. To make it easier for them to do the thing
they're thinking about doing sure that once you stand up
there, right? And just
spew, all this stuff that makes it clear that you're thinking
about leaving, 100% it easier to walk out the door because
you can't come back now, right? I think that's what it's doing.
That's what he's doing. He's tactically laying down
the groundwork. He was letting basically
just gave us a conversation to lead us down the road that
you know, he's exhausted from coaching and that's not going
to happen. He just, he might need a break,
you know. So here in the immediate future or something
that he's, he is that's all after Mahomes was this
quarterback. If Patrick Mahomes was quarterback,
he wouldn't need a break. Well, I think it's
and I'm not, this isn't a guy.
Matthew Stafford thing. This is just the situation in the Rams.
They sold their soul. That's the common theme. I'm hearing
from folks around the league. These people who've been
resentful and angry about how F them picks is effing up their
ability to do their job because their owners are. Why don't we
do
with the Rams are doing? Here's why we're not doing it because
they went all-in, they won those two. Ball. And now it's
all crumbling and mcveigh's running out the door before it
does. That's how people are reacting to all of this around
the league. And if he
had a deck that was stacked in his favor, if he was heading to
a second straight, Super Bowl appearance, he wouldn't be
having these thoughts 5 and 12 is what's causing him to have
these thoughts,
agreed. I mean there's no doubt about that. That's where it is
very much like Sean Payton. He had the he's looking at
the writing on the wall a little bit about the team and going
wait, things aren't going in the right direction. I'm not
sure. I I want to be here,
you know, for the, for this, for the rebuild,
for all the tough things there.
And I think that's where
he's, you know, trying to soften the blow. Also, within
the public forum here
because there's some things that, you know, don't look
necessarily right. That's the other thing here,
you know, one, hey, you just won the Super Bowl.
Yeah. And then you asked for you got a new
contract, so that just seems weird right off the get-go.
Weights. Why didn't we think about this last year? I mean,
why was this not a thing last year, you know, after you won
the Super Bowl before, we're asking for money. But then also
you got to take into some of the
things. He's probably
told guys. You know, that's where he's got to soften
the blow here too and make sure he plays it the right way. I mean
how much of
conversations between McVeigh
led to Aaron Donald coming back and Stafford coming back. And
hey, man, come back here. We're going to build something. We're
going to do that. So he's LED people down a path of like,
hey, I'm going to be here. Here we're going to do this together
so now he's trying to delicately delicately. Get out of town
and yeah it's it to me. That's what it seems like again.
It's a team that's got a lot of issues,
they got holes across the board
and they got a quarterback that's beat up a little bit,
they got Aaron Donald who's paying a lot of money coming to
the end of his career,
there's no draft picks and
yeah by all due accounts list totally seems like a guy that's
going, wait we're not going to be very successful here. The
next few years let me take A year off and then find a new
job somewhere else. And,
you know, with a better situation and better assets and
to support me.
And last year, I think the deliberation was do I leave
a team that possibly could come. Yeah. Right. Super-bright.
Caught up in that
when you are celebrating
the Super Bowl you have just won. It is very tempting to think
you're going to do it again.
And that's the cautionary tale for anyone else, who is
pondering their future with a team, as a player, or a coach,
or a GM or in any capacity. Don't let the fact that you
just won the Super Bowl, be a major factor. Factor. Because
chances are you're not going to win
it next year, something's going to happen. You're probably not
even going to get back next year. It doesn't happen very
frequently. The Patriots are the only team in the past 30
years that have mustered. The ability to go back-to-back, not
quite 30, the Broncos, went back to back,
and then the Patriots did, but it's been 20 years since
the Patriots did. There's a reason that no one's won back-to-back,
Super Bowls, the Patriots have qualified for back-to-back,
Super Bowls during their incredible run that may never
be duplicated.
I did but just don't assume you're going to be back there.
Don't do it. Don't make that part of your thought process,
don't let that lure. Yeah. Bring are actually thinking
about taking Jeff Bezos, money
to go work. Thursday Night Football mean that's the other
problem. Chris
and I don't think this is about TV because he's going to find
out.
They are not going to throw the money at him that they would
have a year ago. First of all there's no sheets available on
Apple. Right? Right. And there's no seats available.
Yeah.
Now look if There were no seats available a year ago, when Sean
McVeigh is carrying around the Lombardi. Trophy, maybe
somebody makes a seat for him. But this year, they're not
going to make a seat for him.
The seats are full the big money jobs are gone,
he's going to be if he wants to do TV.
The number two guy at Fox, maybe, I don't know if Tom.
Brady, doesn't knock Greg Olsen down to number two or have to
go to a studio somewhere and the studio jobs, don't pay what
you get
when you're the
Analyst at one of the major networks, whether it's NBC's,
CBS
espn/abc FOX around. Nobody wants to work. Nobody Rides.
Work in the studio every day at now anymore. Everybody was no,
not every player you talk to. I don't want to be in the studio.
I want to announce games. Hope really. That right?
Not
if they're in the steering. I deal with guys like us. Yeah.
Um so
I think this is more about taking a time out and pick his
next spot. He's watching what Sean Payton did and I think
that's the model
because it's not like Peyton got some great TV job. I was
fascinated by what Peyton may end up doing in media. Yeah,
it's it was just it was just a part-time
right? Place holder for him to stay in and around the game
while he picks his next move. Yeah and
if he does it for another year at Fox so be it but he'll that
may be the easiest thing for McVeigh hope Peyton leaves and
just become the new champs for Fox. You just cross out Peyton
and you put in McVeigh and you just kind of linger there for
a year
and wait for your next opportunity.
Somebody sends the Rams, a first-round draft pick that
they'll trade for some Veteran player elsewhere, and then
McVeigh becomes a coach. Again,
I wouldn't be shocked by that at all. I certainly could see
that, you know, maybe even multiple years, I don't know.
Again, he's young. He's got lots in front of them. You
know, one of his mentor's was Jon Gruden, who we saw went
into the booth and
was therefore, a significant number of years before he
jumped back. Tuna coaching jump back tuna coaching again. So
yeah, I think you're,
you know, you're kind of I kind of see it. The same way.
I don't think this is going to be
like I don't get the feel. This is going to be McVeigh. Let me
get out with the Rams because I got some other job lined up
already. That's not the feel I get like Shawn,
right? It's totally like he's gonna
he's getting away. Sean. Payton was
another job lined up
and then it got blown up and then he went to the TV thing.
This seems like yeah
TV, let me keep my name in the spotlight a little bit, figure
out my next moves, you know, think about that a little bit
and then,
you know, go from there and that's kind of what this has
the feel of
Two things. Yeah, first I think one of the things he learned
from Gruden, is walk away before they make you run,
right? Because Gruden hung around Tampa Bay, it fell apart
and they fired him. It's better to walk away on your own terms,
although group and landed on his feet as the
top Analyst at ESPN, after he was finally fired by
the Buccaneers, the other thing is this, I made this point
yesterday and I was talking to somebody over the weekend as it
relates to the Broncos mindset,
once the Broncos accept, the fact that they are going to
give the st. Something potentially Ali for Sean Payton
and look even though they haven't agreed on compensation
they kind of have
there's an understanding of what's going to take
the Broncos. Know what it's like going to look at a house. Yeah.
That you know why would you go look at a house that you have?
No intention. Yeah. You know, the general prices that's
right. All right.
You know what the price is going to be? If you want to buy
this house, you're pre-qualified. The Broncos are
essentially pre-qualified to go tore this house. My point is
this once,
You start preparing
to write a check, that big
wide only look at one house.
Why not call every team
that may have a coach
it may be ready to move on.
If you're going to give up a first-round pick
or more to get Sean Payton,
Why not
call the Ravens and see if it's time for John Harbaugh to move
on. Why not call the Patriots and see our point maybe Bill
Belichick be ready to go. Why not call the Rams,
it's a family call. It's The Waltons in the crunk. He's
hey, Sean's done.
Working for Stan. Sean wants to move on. Hey Stan, what would
it take? Hey, Shan Shan not that, not that the prospect of
going to a team.
I'm that probably faces the same rebuild that the Rams do
will be all that appealing to Sean McVeigh, but but my point
is out there, the less of a round building
and the Broncos, it's less. Yeah, it's true.
Well, you got no.
Well, you still had a quarterback situation, you got
to figure out how they could trade Russell Wilson plus two
first round picks in the third round, pick for Matthew
Stafford if they want to, but
I'm kidding. My point is this for the Broncos or any other
team that's contemplating the possibility of trying to hire
somebody else's coach.
I think that's a
Factor for Sean McVeigh, and maybe that's why he's making it
known, maybe that's why he's making it known to everybody.
What he's thinking about as teams are considering their
options for Coach.
Maybe, he's hoping that somebody has the light bulb flicker
say, well why don't we call the Rams and see what they would
want for the guy that's going to walk away from them? Anyway,
that's it's very logical what you're saying there. I don't
know if that's his master plan, if it is, it's brilliant.
You know, if it is maybe that's why he's kind of saying these
things public. Ali it opens up the forum for people to
understand,
you know, where he's at in this process. And that
he is open for business
and maybe that's why he's doing it. Mike,
but it is interesting and I hear your point too. I mean,
it's something we've hit on a little bit and I know you've
hit on and I don't understand why it doesn't go
on more as far as you know, the acquisition or the trading for
coaches out there
and you know, like you said,
you know more times. I'm not after you get to a certain
party Year's teams and the head. You're
kind of looking to maybe go their separate ways. Anyways,
I mean, we heard that a few years ago with John Harbaugh in
the Ravens not that they
didn't dislike each other. Just kind of, I think there was
a thought in the NFL that it was maybe time for them to go
different directions. That happens
would be interesting. It really well. And I don't know where
this McVeigh things going. Yeah, it seemed like it was
a TV step away thing. That's the feel I get, but maybe there is
a bigger play here
at hand and Suarez.
You know, positioning yourself for one of these opening jobs
open jobs. It's harder to sell that to the guys. You're
leaving behind ya, it really is deadly. That sounds,
the personals, that's simply laying the foundation
to jump to another team
that makes it harder to tell Aaron, Donald Matthew staff,
right? Everybody else was on that team because it really
does create the Indiana Jones scenario where he's sliding
under the falling Stone to. Yeah
it makes you look like you have those slick runs on to the next
right? Right. Yeah. Yeah. I saw I've I really I think I'm going
to keep it simple. I think that this is a basic psychological
Thing by Sean McVeigh to talk about it
so much. It's impossible to stay that. That's the only way
he's going to walk away if he just burns it down to the point
where because look, if he stays and he's gonna deal with this,
every year, he's Brett Favre contemplating retirement. Every
single year,
this issue is going to come up. He's not going to be able to
talk this down and Shout this down. We get to the end of
every season. This from this point forward and that's going
to be the conversation. Is this year that he walks away.
So I think it is It is,
and I don't think I'll be coaching anybody else. My point
is, if you're thinking about offering somebody a first-round
pick or more for their coach, maybe, maybe you can.
Just throw it out there and
see if it sticks why not?
I mean there's so much going on right now from the standpoint
of who are we going to hire who we're going to talk to why not
be as creative and Broad and flexible as possible?