SHOOTING HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED.
WILL, RACHEL, PETE.
WILL: THANK YOU, ALEXANDRIA
WITH.
A SAD STORY THAT HITS HOME FOR
MANY OF US INCLUDING RETIRED
DALLAS POLICE OFFICER TREY PENNY
WHO JOINS US NOW.
TREY, AS YOU HEAR THE NEWS, WHAT
DO YOU MAKE OF THIS INCIDENT IN
ALLEN?
>> I’M EXTREMELY HEART BROKEN BY
WHAT HAPPENED IN ALLEN, TEXAS.
BUT MORE OF A PERSONAL NOTE, I
HAVE A FRIEND -- I RECEIVED A
CALL ABOUT 3:35 YESTERDAY FROM
HIM FRANTIC.
I MEAN, HE’S A POLICE OFFICER IN
ANOTHER CITY, AND HE’S CALLING
ME ABOUT HIS DAUGHTER THAT’S AT
THE ALLEN MALL, AND THEY
BARRICADE THEMSELVES ALONG WITH
TEN OTHER PEOPLE INSIDE OF A
STORAGE CLOSET, AND HE COULD
HEAR THE GUNSHOTS IN THE BECOME.
AND HE’S FRANTIC TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT WHAT’S GOING ON, I’M
GRABBING MY GUN TRYING TO SHOOT
TO THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN SO WE
COULD GET THERE.
LOOK, IT WAS HORRIFYING FOR ALL
OF US.
AND, LOOK, THE BOTTOM LINE HERE
IS WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO ALLOW
THIS TO HAPPEN.
THIS IS HITTING HOME.
THERE’S NO WAY WE SHOULD BE
CONSTANTLY WORRIED ABOUT THESE
SHOOTERS BEING ABLE TO ATTACK US
WHILE WE’RE OUT SHOPPING AND
BEING WITH OUR FAMILIES.
THAT IS NOT GOING TO CUT IT.
LOOK, I KNOW WE’VE GIVEN A LOT
OF CREDENCE TO THE OUR SECOND
AMENDMENT LAWS X I’M A PRO-GUN
RIGHT GUY, BUT WE CANNOT ALLOW
CRIMINALS TO BE RUNNING AROUND
WITH GUNS, WITH BODY WITH ARMOR
AND NOT KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
LOOK, WE HAD OFFICERS THAT
RESPONDED, I TALKED TO A COUPLE
OF OFFICERS.
I MEAN, LOOK, I DON’T KNOW --
PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOT, POLICE
OFFICERS THAT HAVE NOT WORKED A
SCENE INVOLVING KIDS, IT’S ONE
OF THE MOST TRAGIC SCENES TO
EVER WORK, THAT ANYONE COULD
EVER SEE.
YOU DON’T LOSE THAT.
SO THESE OFFICERS ARE GOING TO
BE DEALING WITH MENTAL HEALTH
ISSUES FOR THE FORESEEABLE
FUTURE WITH DEALING WITH DEAD
BABIES, AND THAT CAN’T HAPPEN
ANYMORE.
I THINK IT’S TIME WE START
LOOKING AT MENTAL HEALTH LAWS,
START LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, GUN
PROTECTION LAWS.
WE’VE GOT TO DO WHAT WE’VE GOT
TO DO TO MAKE SURE THE RIGHT
PEOPLE HAVE THE GUNS.
PETE: TRE, POLICE AREN’T SAYING
MUCH ABOUT THE SHOOTER.
THEY’RE SAYING HE’S NOT FROM
THAT AREA WHICH COULD MEAN A LOT
OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE -- AND TO
YOUR POINT, I MEAN, WHEN YOU
OFTEN THE THIS IS THE THIN
LINE -- WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE,
THIS IS A THIN LINE.
YOU’RE A SUPPORTER OF THE SECOND
AMENDMENT, NOW YOU’RE WILLING TO
LOOK AT DIFFERENT MEASURES.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?
BECAUSE MENTAL ILLNESS IS A REAL
PROBLEM, BUT WE DON’T KNOW
ANYTHING ABOUT THE MENTAL STATE
OF THIS SHOOTER AND WHETHER OR
NOT THEY WOULD HAVE PASSED A
BACKGROUND CHECK AS WELL.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THAT’S THE FINE LINE.
YOU’RE HITTING IT RIGHT ON THE
NOSE.
BACKGROUND CHECKS.
WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO.
LOOK, I’M A POLICE OFFICER.
I LOVE MY GUN, BUT I DON’T WANT
A PERSON RUNNING AROUND BESIDE
ME WITH HIS GUN.
HE STARTS SHOOTING, I DON’T KNOW
THAT HE’S UNSTABLE AT THAT TIME.
HE’S GOT THE POTENTIAL TO TAKE
OUT ME AND MY WHOLE FAMILY.
NO WAY.
WE’VE GOT TO KNOW WHO THESE
PEOPLE ARE.
I’VE LONG ARGUED FOR LOOKING AT
BEHAVIOR.
WE WANT TO MITIGATE THESE RISKS.
WE NEED TO HAVE -- AND YOU KNOW
WHAT?
WE’RE GOING TO FIND OUT ONCE THE
FBI GETS INTO HIS ONLINE DATA
AND THEY FIND OUT WHAT HIS
HABITS WERE, WE’RE GOING TO FIND
OUT WHETHER THIS PERSON
ANNOUNCED HIS INTENTIONS.
AND ANOTHER PART OF THAT IS WHEN
THESE ATTACKERS ANNOUNCE THEIR
INTENTION, THEY TYPICALLY TELL
YOU WHAT THEIR MOTIVATIONS ARE,
WHAT THEIR GRIEVANCES ARE AND
WHAT HEIR GOING ANOTHER.
THEY’RE GOING TO DO.
THE PROBLEM WITH THEM POSTING
THIS INFORMATION ONLINE IS THAT
THESE COMPANIES HAVE NO MANDATE
TO COMMUNICATE WITH LAW
ENFORCEMENT, SO WE NEED
POLICIES.
THE LAST TWO YEARS I’VE BEEN
TESTIFYING BEFORE THE U.S. HOUSE
JUDICIARY, TESTIFYING BEFORE THE
STATE JUDICIARY TRYING TO GET
THEM TO DO SOMETHING TO PREVENT
THESE TYPE OF SHOOTING ATTACKS
FROM HAPPENING, BUT NOBODY HAS
MOVED, AND THAT’S WHY I’M GOING
TO BE DOING EVERYTHING I CAN
FROM THE INSIDE, I’M GOING TO BE
THE RUNNING FOR CONGRESS TO MAKE
SURE WE ARE PROTECTING OUR
POLICE AND OUR COMMUNITY.
RACHEL: YOU KNOW, TRE, I TOTALLY
AGREE.
I THINK EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE
ON THE TABLING THE, AND WE AS
CITIZENS DESERVE TO THOUGH WHAT
ARE THE MOTED VEGASES AND
FACTORS -- MOTIVATIONS AND
FACTORS.
THERE’S A MANIFESTO FOR A MASS
SHOOTING AGAINST CHRISTIAN
CHILDREN AND ADULTS AT A
CHRISTIAN SCHOOL?
TENNESSEE, AND FOR SOME REASON
WE STILL HAVEN’T, THAT STILL
HASN’T BEEN RELEASED.
I THINK WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT THE
ISSUE OF FATHERLESSNESS.
WE AS ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT WEED.
WE KNOW THAT CANNABIS INCREASES
PSYCHO CEASE BY FIVE TIMES. --
PSYCHOSIS.
INCLUDING MAYBE IMPROVING
BACKGROUND CHECKS, BUT THANK GOD
THERE WAS A GUY WITH A GUN THERE
TO TAKE THIS GUY DOWN.
>> LOOK, I HAVE -- LOOK, THIS IS
THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DEFUND THE
POLICE MOVEMENT.
WHEN YOU HAVE POLICE ABLE TO
RESPOND, THEY’RE ABLE TO TO MEET
THAT AGGRESSION OF THE SUSPECT
AT SCENE.
SO WE HAVE TO HAVE MORE POLICE.
WE HAVE TO GET MORE PEOPLE, MORE
POLICE OFFICERS FUNDED, AND WE
HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE’RE
PROTECTING THESE OFFICERS WHILE
WE’RE TRYING TO GET THEM TO COME
ON TO THESE DEPARTMENTS.
WE CAN’T HAVE OFFICERS WORRIED
ABOUT FACING CRIMINAL LIABILITY
CHARGES FOR USE OF FORCE.
WE’VE GOT TO THE MOVE AWAY FROM
THAT.
YOU SAW RIGHT AFTER THE GEORGE
FLOYD RIOTS WHERE A LOT OF
POLICE OFFICERS HERE IN DALLAS,
HERE IN AUSTIN, THE, A LOT OF
POLICE OFFICERS STARTED GETTING
INDICTED.
FOR USE OF FORCE.
WE CANNOT HAVE THAT BECAUSE
YOU’RE NOT GOING TO HAVE POLICE
COMING INTO THE PROFESSION IF
THEY THINK THEY’RE GOING ON THE