welcome to what the flight review of The Walking Dead Season 4 episode 15
us just the two of us are three of us I'm came hard during this is don i to
roll and Tim fresh
our talk all about reunited and it feels so good
are loving couple it's back to each other's warm embrace but not for long I
imagine I have to say I'm surprised by their ability to take
thing in like us that actual like each each day they do each week I guess I
should say they do a word like that they do manage to make it feel relatively
consistent
between the groups and i know i like the in this episode you see such different
versions about what this means to these groups
I don't have a sappy but I like that I sappiness
so a I they mentioned Glenn and Maggie are reunited together in a very
convenient
scene in which she saves the day and save tears life in Terra
is has been following Glen around ridden with guilt about what she's done
obviously Sasha and Bob recognized her but they haven't really said anything
about it yet
maybe she won't react as well as Tyree state when he/she
when he found out what carol had done to him yeah I actually did not get that
they've recognized her
I didn't think it was weird that nobody did but yeah I have noticed that
by the way the the scene where they where they rescue them when he is
desperately like willing to sacrifice himself for tear it all that
how much embodied the way so that seen Jesus Christ thought it was just like
such an automatic weapon are something mount on the car
I thought like a little use all the night only has the scientists like
57 had shots in a row and I was like okay we're all good at this now at this
stage in the game when Graeme I
at this stage in the game you would think so then mad he decides that she's
going to convince glenda burn a picture her which is possibly foreboding and
possibly a reference to the Terminator what
a but she says you're never gonna need another picture me in Burns Ed which
it's a bold statement lol zombie apocalypse
I don't get burning the picture I mean I guess is vain incident because a good
picture I would check my boyfriend into burning a picture and I hate myself
I like that sure bernie is part time at for I am a little bit worried now from
what you've said that she's got that accepts it but I guess I'm really scared
that one of them is not going to make it through the end of the season
here and right here in my view but yet so we're building towards that like
fighting I didn't think that we would get back to her in that episode I
thought they would wait until the next one
on they sorta like wrapped up very cleanly like that they had
the scientist a trick to Rizzi today and so circling around then suddenly they
found the way I feel a big seller and so fast right there
but I guess I'm glad because they do have so many groups they have to start
consolidating for
for the next episode now we have two or three groups together
and we found out that darryl's bandham murderers and rapists are out to get
Rick and they know to look like in their gonna hunt him down I'm very worried
about what will happen
when Rick meet up with the group well important point to know
one of them knows where it looks like and his head looks very crossbow bolt
ready
oh maybe they taken out the Travel Group
I'm very worried they're going to get into a fight and Michelle not might not
realize daryl is in the group
and shop as head of maybe or something like that I don't know
they alluded earlier in the season that they want to rate my shown they didn't
know where the time which is gonna come back to the house I so
when she gets back area first dibs claimed know ain't exactly
no upsetting the around the the ass and is still an end
Caitlin I hate you I can't you just a little bit
for visiting me so there they want their walking on the way to terminus
we still Eugene is telling the group well they're saying that you Gino's
how how this all started how to solve it I think he's lying
I think he had an ulterior motive and the strictest hosts soldiers and having
a new mission
and I that he noted that the light is in DC
I feel like he's secretly just a science teacher or something and his sister
together I think he knows that they need a mission
he has a plan and his united them with a mission yeah
well I mean his whole thing up navigating in going back to the train
tracks was like nah for smart thing we've ever seen him done
yeah so for this genius he doesn't do a lot of smart the hits on lesbian
I do like his theory about dinosaurs being zombies that killed each other
that the edge
thinker yeah it was a great right right there doesn't read it I would rather
that conversation
whatever game or did he say is soon but as the typeof
it didn't sound like that to me on for letting go back
but with this guy Irene he sounds like you're nobody
anyway we make it all the way to terminus finally
what our group Intel an episode earlier an episode earlier request for terms
with another group they've gone to
might work image shown in car all our Halloween email you a mere sight
I she did she throw the competition Michelle she did
cash because she did he was nice he gave her candy everywhere they're selling
together French I'd like that we do now
considering where Rick sort of went to over the past couple seasons like that
he is smiling at them he's happy it's not usually good sign in the show with
her bro
but the their version of us is that they all work together very well
and they're balancing sort of familiarity and comfort with each other
but they're all very well prepared to live in this world
you often have both those things in a group that's true because
what we've seen this kind of apocalyptic world people who aren't useful in our
and the world that maybe we're used to right now
they've they've evolved like darryl what kinda nothing and now he's
what are the most valuable asset in carol was this abused scared one and now
she's strong beyond belief
yeah um overnight doesn't the overnight thousand yes
but with a rude ass again since I was thinking about this so we have the the
Dells group I really like that we got to see certain the inner workings other
I can't believe they killed that guy over the rabbit thing I assume this
wasn't hurt advance
but so a couple questions about that so do you really think that that group
long-term could survive in the world like I know they're capable they have
their bows and stuff
but they just seem so right for this or violence that we saw in this episode n
we saw the last time that they're on the show
there too destructive they kill a person in the group every time we see the
there there they say oh we do this so we don't have
the a battle every five minutes while you're still having them every 10
minutes
eventually your group not going to exist anymore are just going to be
to like much a target or threat to other groups so that they might
I gang up on them it's a weird for logic because
they recognize more than anyone that you do need a group that that's essential
yet that it's like not an option to go it on your own
and they have this weird hierarchy setup where
clearly you know Joe was anything Harley
i think is a out he's in charge yep but in a grid most grizzled
in that in a way that like only so much is that he establishes
and in to educate on the rules
in and beyond that it's chaos yeah because
all of these guys you know wanna do whatever they want
but under this strange anarchy guideline type thing
it works for them it seems to work well we don't know how much turnover there is
a curb I mean like we said we've seen people die already a lot of turnover in
that group I don't know that those rules would really work like in less like a
kid just be that you're claiming everything you see because it wouldn't
be running ahead to see them all the time like I feel like
people are probably like they they understand that it's claiming but it's
also there is a power dynamic between different people in the group
if you know that this dudes about the claims that you don't jump it from every
time it seems like it works the way I imagine
a wall pack works like you've got your alpha male
and everybody else can like grab their scraps and everybody yes and a group
survives
but there's always that power struggle going on and the rules are just so
lose yeah and they don't even always follow them to the letter
yeah I like that you're avail for male thing because we can't help but notice
that they don't have any females in their group we have to assume that the
joke about rape them
exactly but so that that's my point so you have a group that is
amongst all the herbs i've seen seems like the most likely to succeed in this
world
accepted the end of the day its 6 dirty
hip like you I guess Harley riders from the past with bows walking around
with no women they've given themselves toward the mission and chasing down a
wreck
but what is the purpose of life that's all you have is trying to claim your
rabbit and from other out Feliz
a Petco I'm okay so I think
that raises the question about the whole series in general is life worth living
even if you're in this hell even if you're living
for 10 minutes and only two minutes about 10 is good
I mean extra but I think yes yeah her but just like it's what
it it's a balance over is this worth it do I actually want to survive
is MI a better person who deserves to survive et cetera in
I guess today group I would say in no you don't deserve to survive just
because you're you're strong
there they don't they lack the humanity that Rick's group s yeah
doesn't and I'm really want my shown to kill all of them
all that we saw running of them had the preview for the next episode
they're more likely as I need her to kick their ass for some poetic justice
sir
um okay so we we did get the term is going to jump the gun and terminates but
can we talk about terminus
in oh my gosh talk about as much as we know yeah to the mall I have
some theories that by popular fan there is but let's talk about what we know
first
they enter terminus there's some really sappy music playing there's
and flowers there's a lady with the barbecue up
meet their is in your car is speculation not yet know nothing too large I don't
lie even
know that began to like totally unlocked they walk in she said
you must have had a long journey think that bitch knew they were coming
in maybe she could have been doing some kind of spying they seem very
she at least I should say seems very confident that they're not even locking
the gates
I have to assume that first bought I was obviously wrong about this entire place
because I thought it would be like hundreds if not thousands of people
where leaders say no we only wonder is that we see so far
but my speculation is on that might make my prediction
I don't think that that is what terminus was
I think that's a term is is it seems to become has become like it might have
been an organized group at one point that actually would meet you at the gate
to take your guns or whatever
but it's possible that like it fell apart or was attacked or someone took
over
and now it's this weird thing with the weird echo we voice in the preview for
the next episode
it's not my speculation it seems like it man and we'll see what terminus is but
it's like
two directions that a Woodbury type establishment can go
you either have this crazy dictatorial leader that calls all the shots
or you have what you know becomes
you know either like this socialist utopia where everybody
balls they're waitin survives together or this crazy Grand Lake alt
sorts it might be let me go over a little bit at the theory that are out
there right now
number one it's someone seems while many people seem to think that the sweater
Mary is wearing at the sweater bet was last seen in
I did not see that yeah so some people are saying call them the same size and
all
no I anyway if that is best bets water
where's that we saw the last we saw her she was being taken off in the car
and we have to assume that whatever else we know but the people who run terminus
their organize the fact that they can go out and Mark
all the signs far away days away implies that they have cars and they're safe and
all that
so it's possible that they did kidnapper there's also some allusions to an
earlier episode this season
I episode 11 claimed it this is when Michelle own is in the house and she's
looking at member the paintings
that he was looking at one of them was a sunflower you remember there are some
flowers right outside terminus
there's one there's a very scratched out painting a woman what the braid over
one's shoulder
she's a mirror image %uh marry
what happened and she might live there she may have lived there I don't know
why the paintings all scratched up
you what you know X's and cried out for us this again yes I worst
I would've said those paintings foreshadow each episode the comes after
it
because there is one with rabbits there is our one with a dog
and their own bath find that dog the flowers episode I would have given to
the one with we are all yeah girls are a couple hours
easter egg that was too put in by writers or that they're from
a deliberately as I a character may be moved on later
green into are you straight if you're if you're what you think is right yes
mister I but there's a whole scene about it they walk around and look at all the
paintings and Karla Michelle make a big deal about itself
so it's pretty substantial but I don't I don't about I don't see those
paintings being like directly related like painted by somebody determine left
with a woman all scratched up in the painting
and who was the woman because some with a plane with brown hair but
the thing at least 30 k to happen 30 Watson can tell them no
no yet restricted it up you know the braid is just the exactly the same as
her Bray but why would they do that why would they intentionally collided The
Walking Dead is doing a scan that makes a there's always like speculation to the
about great
not quite as bad as what I'm saying and actionable seen nice
no enemies boys echoes like that in the previous
in the preview for the exam so that in raising and like one thing that I am
glad about is that despite the fact that I was wrong about how high I guess
how colonized the term this would be it does seem clear that it has a an
authority figure and so my wish to have them
so to be under the yoke of another person seal the deal with that
that seems likely to come true I think most of the season has been convincing
us that
Rex not the main character anymore yes is that we see so little love him and
his plan is so
tertiary to everything else that we're excited about is that we're no longer
like living and breathing in dying with you and they have a plan to kill off
Rick
now I don't want to hear for the show II don't because he is the heart and soul
the comics
yet but we're so far from the comics at this point yeah
me not so far but their I think the writers are willing to go other
directions
Indiana I think in this episode is a perfect example that because like it's
one thing when they have an episode with
what I recent and I don't even show wreck you understand that they want to
focus on a group
but in this episode actually went to a group but they didn't feel any need to
stay in the group for very long like
it almost seems like it's more of a slight to put them in for three minutes
and put them in 40 minutes
that's why I think interesting so what do you think will happen
in the finale what do you think has been set up for Earth
I think recognition and Carl are already
at terminus when Glenn and party arrive
and they know the CD truth what happens there
and I think there either already dead
or already dismantling what's going on in terminus or
you know they're trapped maybe glenn's party becomes a rescue party I think
I think we're going to get a little flashback to
to whatever they were doing whatever happened to them when they got terminus
well as someone pointed out to him what are the reviews I read
this show is not in the habit of creating very elaborate sets and then
only using them for an episode or two
so I would assume that we're going to be a terminus for half a season or more
right and if that's the case then we can't expect it's going to be completely
destroyed in the finale
I mean they're probably gonna set up big conflict are likely conflict seems
between Rick and then the group but with Darrell
like it seems likely that something like that is going to happen possibly finding
some evidence that beth is their right near the end could be a good at
thing to lead a role to want to go in there I don't repeat
in terms abut Glenn and Maggie I don't really know what's driving them at this
point so it's hard to really know what
what sort of spark a fire with them but obviously there's the group but there's
a burr hammers era and I and the scientist
and so they're sort of a wild card here I can't imagine they're gonna end up
leaving your Washington DC
so maybe they go in thinking they can leave and they're not allowed to for
some reason
I don't really know beyond that I think best ed insured I think she
dead I hope she's I hope you're not here because I got tired yes and
I don't think they're going to spend that much time interment as I think
they're going to realize pretty quickly
this is not the place to be and its WN the season there know that yet though
they're gonna spend this episode there but I think
some crazy debts are going to happen I don't think they're going to spend at
long there but what do I know they can head in there for like
eight episodes I don't think you get to leave after two but
I don't know I think they're gonna they're going to throw a little surprise
for us
okay well see all the Domino had to go
a okay well all everything is set up for that
what will certainly be a very violent season finale
very heartbreaking season finale watch the dominoes fall down with us next week
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