FOR THIS PRESIDENT.
JACKIE?
JACKIE: EDWARD LAWRENCE, THANK
YOU, FOR MORE ON THIS,
CONGRESSMAN DARRELL ISSA FROM
HOUSE FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE,
WHITE HOUSE FORMER DEPUTY CHIEF
OF STAFF KARL ROVE.
CONGRESSMAN, GOOD EVENING,
WELCOME.
START WITH YOU FIRST ON THIS.
REITERATE A STATEMENT FROM THE
U.S. TREASURY DEPARTMENT THAT
EDWARD QUOTED FROM THERE.
TREASURY SAID THIS THIS ACTION
WILL NOT BE TAKEN IN RESPONSE TO
ENERGY PRICES.
THIS IS A LIMITED LICENSE.
AS WE HAVE SAID IN THE PAST THIS
IS ABOUT THE REGIME TAKING THE
STEPS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE
RESTORATION OF DEMOCRACY IN
VENEZUELA.
NOW ONE COULD STEP AWAY FROM
THIS AND SAY, WELL IT IS ALL
ABOUT ENERGY SUPPLY AND PRICE
RIGHT NOW AND IF THE
ADMINISTRATION ALLOWS DRILLING
IN VENEZUELA BY CHEVRON, THEY
COULD JUST PULL THE PLUG WHEN
WHENEVER THEY WANT CITING ISSUES
OVER THERE WHERE AS IF THEY
ALLOWED DRILLING TO HAPPEN HERE,
IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT
AND IT WOULD BE A REVERSAL OF
THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION’S
POLICY WHICH THE PRESIDENT MADE
CLEAR HE THINKS HE IS DOING
EVERYTHING RIGHT, HE DOESN’T
WANT TO REVERSE COURSE?
>> HE COULD BUT HE WON’T.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON.
THANKS FOR COVERING IT THIS WAY.
ULTIMATELY WE NORMALLY LIFT
SANCTIONS IN RETURN FOR AN
ACTION, NOT LIFTING SANCTIONS IN
RETURN FOR A VAGUE PROMISE THAT
THEY MIGHT DO SOMETHING LIKE A
FREE AND FAIR ELECTION SIX OR
EIGHT OR NINE MONTHS INTO THEIR
EXPORTING OIL, GETTING THE MONEY
FROM IT, THAT ALLOWS THIS
DICTATORSHIP TO CONTINUE TO
OPERATE.
BUT I THINK THE MORE IMPORTANT
POINT IS, WHY NOT IN THE U.S.?
IS IT REALLY THAT IMPORTANT FOR
THE PRESIDENT TO STICK TO A
PROMISE OF REDUCING OUR CARBON
PRODUCTION WHILE IN FACT BEGGING
THE REST OF THE WORLD TO
INCREASE THEIRS?
NOTHING MAKES LESS SENSE THAN
THAT.
JACKIE: KARL, WELCOME TO YOU AS
WELL.
GREAT TO SEE YOU.
I WILL TAKE A PIECE OF THIS
"WALL STREET JOURNAL" OPINION
PIECE CALLED BIDEN’S DIRTY OIL
DEAL WITH VENEZUELA.
THE AUTHOR STATES THIS, THE
WASHINGTON OCCASIONALLY MAKES
MISCALCULATIONS THAT HELPS
AMERICAN ENEMIES, UNMINE
DEVELOPMENT IN POOR COUNTRIES OR
HARM U.S. INTERESTS BUT TO NAIL
A TRIFECTA COMBINES SPECIAL
BLEND OF IDEALOGICAL
INCOMPETENCE AND MERCY ANY RARE.
YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT.
>> I THINK THAT IS ABSOLUTELY ON
TARGET.
I JOIN WITH CONGRESSMAN ISSA,
THAT IS NOT HOW NORMALLY WE DO
THINGS, WE GIVE RELIEF FROM
SANCTIONS WHEN THEY DO THINGS,
NOT THINK ABOUT DOING SOMETHING.
WE’LL GIVE MONEY TO A REGIME TO
USE IT TO STRENGTHEN ITS
SECURITY SERVICES HOLD OVER THE
POPULATION.
WE’RE GIVING MONEY TO AN OPENED
A VERY CAT AND ALLY OF MANY OF
OUR ENEMIES AROUND THE WORLD AND
WE’RE LOOKING LIKE FOOLS ON THE
INTERNATIONAL STAGE.
WE’RE NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE
LOOKING AT THIS.
THIS DIMINISHES AMERICAN
CREDIBILITY F WE WANTED MORE OIL
AND GAS WE COULD GET IT IN THE
UNITED STATES IF WE TOOK OFF
SOME UNNECESSARY REGULATIONS,
SPREAD UP APPROVALS FOR PIPELINES, MADE IT EASIER FOR
PIPELINES, MADE IT EASIER FOR
PEOPLE TO BRING ENERGYTOUR
MARKETS.
INSTEAD WE’LL LOOK AT ONE OF THE
MORE CORRUPT REGIMES IN THE
WORLD, IF NOT THE HEMISPHERE,
THUMB THE NOSE AT THE UNITED
STATES AND THE WORLD FOR SEVERAL
YEARS NOW AND FOR WHAT GOOD
PURPOSE?
WHAT HAVE THEY DONE THAT
JUSTIFIES THIS?
THE ANSWER IS, NOTHING.
JACKIE: YEAH.
PETER DOOCY ASKING ABOUT THIS
TODAY AT THE WHITE HOUSE
BRIEFING.
LET’S TAKE A LISTEN.
>> WHY IS IT THE PRESIDENT BIDEN
WOULD RATHER LET U.S. COMPANIES
DRILL FOR OIL IN VENEZUELA THAN
HERE IN THE U.S.?
>> THAT’S NOT AN ACCURATE TAKE
ON THE PRESIDENT’S VIEW.
>> EARLIER THIS MONTH HE SAID NO
MORE DRILLING.
THERE IS NO MORE DRILLING.
>> THE PRESIDENT HAS ISSUED
9,000 PERMITS FOR DRILLING ON
U.S. FEDERAL LANDS, PETER.
9,000 OF THEM BEING UNUSED.
JACKIE: SO THE PRESIDENT DID SAY
THAT, CONGRESSMAN.
WE ALL REMEMBER THAT HE SAID IT
AND WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS
CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THE 9,000
PERMITS ON FEDERAL LAND BUT THEY
DON’T EXPLAIN TO THE AMERICAN
PUBLIC THAT YOU CAN’T JUST GO
DRILL ON FEDERAL LAND WITHOUT
INVESTING IN THAT SPACE AND THIS
IS SOMETHING THAT COMPANIES HAVE
BEEN RELUCTANT TO DO BECAUSE THE
PRESIDENT HAS GONE AFTER THEM
AND SAYS HE WANTS TO ERADICATE
FOSSIL FUELS.
>> THERE IS NO QUESTION AT ALL
THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO HAVE IT
BOTH WAYS.
HE WANTS TO TAKE CREDIT FOR
STOPPING THE PRODUCTION OF OIL
AND NATURAL GAS.
HE WANTS TO SAY BUT LOOK WHAT
I’VE DONE.
THE FACT IS KARL ROVE’S FORMER
BOSS, GEORGE W. BUSH, I WAS WITH
HIM A MONTH AGO AND HE SAID TO A
VETERANS GROUP BUT CAME OFF AS
THE RIGHT THING TO SAY, AMERICAN
ENERGY IS THE LIFEBLOOD OF THE
AMERICAN ECONOMY AND THAT’S WHAT
THIS PRESIDENT IS ATTACKING.
OUR CURRENT ECONOMIC WOES TO A
GREAT EXTENT ARE EXACTLY BECAUSE
WE’VE RAISES THE PRICE OF
ENERGY.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE PRICE OF
DIESEL TO DELIVER GOODS AND
SERVICES, IT IS THROUGH THE
ROOF.
IF YOU LOOK AT PEOPLE BEING TOLD
IT IS GOING TO BE VERY COLD IN
NEW ENGLAND AND IN NEW YORK THIS
YEAR BECAUSE THEY EITHER CAN’T
GET OR WON’T BE ABLE TO AFFORD
HOME HEATING OIL.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE REAL,
THAT ARE HAPPENING IN AMERICA
TODAY AND THEY’RE HAPPENING
BECAUSE OF A POLICY AND A POLICY
THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS MADE
CLEAR HE IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE.
JACKIE: YEAH.
CARL, OBVIOUSLY AMERICAN
CONSUMERS ARE BLEEDING MONEY
RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF 7.7%
INFLATION.
I KEEP SAYING THERE IS NO WAY
THE FED CAN CONTINUE TO RAISE
RATES VERY AGGRESSIVELY AND WILL
DO DAMAGE TO OTHER PARTS OF THE
ECONOMY BUT THERE IS NO REAL WAY
TO GET PRICES DOWN WITHOUT
BRINGING OIL PRICES DOWN AND
DIESEL PRICES DOWN AS THE
CONGRESSMAN IS SAYING.
AND UNTIL WE DO THAT, UNTIL WE
FIGURE IT OUT, WHEN WE HAVE THE
SUPPLY RIGHT HERE AT HOME
NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE.
>> YEAH.
LOOK, I HAVE A CERTAIN RESPECT
FOR JOHN KIRBY BUT HE OUGHT TO
STICK TO NATIONAL SECURITY AND
MILITARY MATTERS.
WHEN IT COMES TO ENERGY, YOU
TALK TO ANYBODY IN THE OIL
BUSINESS AND THEY WILL TELL YOU
ABOUT THE REGULATIONS AND
UNNECESSARY INTERFERENCE BY THIS
ADMINISTRATION IN THE PRODUCTION
OF DOMESTIC ENERGY.
ITS TRANSMISSION TO REFINERIES
AND MARKETPLACES.
THEY’RE DOING EVERYTHING THEY
POSSIBLY CAN TO DRIVE THE COST
OF HYDROCARBONS UP AND TO
DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM BEING
ABLE TO PRODUCE ABUNDANT,
LOW-COST ENERGY FOR THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE.
AND JOHN KIRBY CAN SAY THEY HAVE
9,000 PERMITS THIS AND THAT, HE
OBVIOUSLY HAS NOT TALKED TO
ANYBODY IN THE ENERGY INDUSTRY
WHAT THEY’RE DOING TO MAKE IT
DIFFICULT TO BUILD A PIPELINE,
DIFFICULT TO BUILD A
TRANSMISSION PLANT, MAKE IT
DIFFICULT TO DRILL.
LABOR, PUT A BUNCH OF
UNNECESSARY REGULATIONS ON TOP
OF OIL AND ENERGY PRODUCTION.
THIS IS WHAT IS CAUSING THE
PRICES TO GO UP.
SUPPLY, MORE SUPPLY WILL BRING
DOWN PRICES.
THE ADMINISTRATION IS STUCK
BETWEEN THE THEIR CLAIMS THAT
THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT
ENERGY PRICES AND THEIR POLICIES
WHICH DO LITTLE EXCEPT DRIVE UP
THE COST OF PRODUCING ENERGY.
JACKIE: THE PRESIDENT HAS
DRAINED THE SPR ALMOST HALFWAY,
ROUGHLY AND SO NOW TURNING TO
VENEZUELA TO TRY TO MAKE UP FOR
IT.
IT HAS GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE