there's been more Bloodshed in the 20th century than any other century and in the 21st century
the abortion rate today we're facing 2500 children in America alone killed every single day so the
leading cause of death period is abortion kills more people in car accidents cancer certainly than
covet even during the pandemic and so you know we're Christians in this land you know and we're
trying to share the truth and share love but there is literally our own brothers and sisters who are
being led away to be killed in facilities set up sometimes in the same street as our churches where
they're being torn apart into pieces dismembered children you know through all nine months of
pregnancy it's legal here in California and in States across the country you know I've studied
social reform movements and human rights abuses but we're so desensitized to the extreme Bloodshed
of our most vulnerable members of society yeah what do we do what is what what is our response
one of the biggest crisis crises in the church is this fear of speaking directly to matters
okay so I started ministry in the 90s and you know in the 90s
the morality in the U.S obviously it's never been biblical but it was a lot closer
so you could preach openly about things and be accepted by a large number of people
that's no longer true um certain topics like this you bring it up and you'll immediately be canceled
by a large swath of people no matter how sensitive you are they're just against it and so for that
reason you have leaders that are like well I just want to address that issue because it's
too divisive and I want people to know God and if I talk about that then they'll reject me and
because you look at the writings of Saint Paul all yeah and he's like calling out if this church is
not paying attention on gluttony or sexuality issues he just calls him out he says you have
forgotten the teaching and he like glazes in on them right and I just look at like the today
the abortion rate yeah is the same yeah among those who identify as Christian now they're not
necessarily going to church every Sunday or mass every Sunday of their Catholic but who
identify as Christian or Catholic as it is among people who don't according to surveys of people
who've had abortions and you know I was raised in a beautiful Evangelical Church I basically
never heard abortion talked about and I went to my youth pastor when I had a realization of what
abortion was and I said we've got to talk about this the abortion it took a year to persuade him
and finally you know we got through we were able to talk about it in the youth group but it just
why why when there's lives at risk in our pews sometimes well I think right now I'm not saying
it's right but pastors are just fighting to keep anyone around people are dividing over everything
and so I really feel for ministers today because it's like well or you know who did you vote for
oh you vote for that guy okay we're leaving you know are you wearing a mask I'm leaving did you
get vaccinated I'm leaving or you just go to that BLM rally okay no I'm leaving everything is just
people are leaving for all sorts of reasons so I think a lot of them are shell-shocked in
the thought of well why don't I just talk about abortion this week yeah you know well it's like
I'm not saying as a as a pastor you got to come out there on every political issue
that you can reasonably make even as a Christian but on an issue about whether
or not it should be okay whether societally or legally to kill a child in the womb yeah
yeah wouldn't I mean don't you think that's kind of Baseline it is I I personally don't know of
leaders who actually believe that it's okay um meaning you think Christian leaders you think
most Christian leaders think abortion's wrong but that isn't but they won't talk about it
do you think they really see abortion for what it is like like let's just put it this way if
instead of it being a pre-born child that's taken into you know planned parenthoods and
abortion clinics it was a one it was an 18 month old yeah if 18 month olds were being taken in yes
to centers across San Francisco San Jose Los Angeles wherever and kill 2500 a day legally
right now people would be like I'm against that but who knows where yeah yeah but my point is
who knows where the world's going to where pretty soon we could be desensitized to that
because it's silly right now right right but that's where if you don't speak against the
child being killed in the womb and it should be enough to speak against them yeah you're right
we're gonna get desensitized so your 18 months is okay but what about nine months or about three
months you know and then it's like okay right up until conception re you know or to you know the
delivery like it doesn't make sense wherever you draw that line it's just it's life but the longer
we think we can play this game of sticking one step ahead of the world as long as well
at least I believe that you know the last three months that's real life I'm a I'm ahead of a lot
of people and I think sometimes as Christians you almost feel like if I'm a little bit a little more
moral than ever yes yes I'm good exactly which is really dangerous yeah rather than I heard
this illustration of like here's the church you know here's the Bible here's a world and as the
world moves away from the Bible the Christian is kind of in the middle following the world feeling
well I'm still closer to the Bible and the world is and but the world's going further and further
and we're we're running from this book we're following but justifying it saying well I'm not
like them yeah but you're way over here already you know you you we gravitate away from this book