FOR TAX DAY 2019.
DETENTION APPEAL DENIED, JAPAN'S
SUPREME COURT REJECTED AN APPEAL
BY LAWYERS OF FORMER RENAULT
NISSAN CHAIRMAN CARLOS GHOSN TO
END HIS DETENTION.
IT COMMENTS AMID GHOSN'S FOURTH
ARREST ON SUSPICION OF FINANCIAL
MISCONDUCT.
CARLOS GHOSN WILL REMAIN IN JAIL
UNTIL AT LEAST APRIL 22nd.
HE HAS BEEN DENIED ANY APPEALS
AND HE HAS DENIED ALL
ALLEGATIONS OF WRONGDOING.
HE SAID HE IS INNOCENT.
JOINING ME RIGHT NOW IN A FOX
BUSINESS EXCLUSIVE IS CARLOS
GHOSN'S WIFE, CAROL GHOSN, WHO
HAS HOLES BEEN
HAS AOLES BEEN
HAS ALSES BEEN
HAS ALSOS BEEN
HAS ALSO BBEEN
HAS ALSO BEEEN
HAS ALSO BEENN
HAS ALSO BEEN QUESTIONED BY
AUTHORITIES.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS
MORNING.
I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A TOUGH
PERIOD FOR YOU.
CAN YOU TAKE US BACK AND TELL US
WHAT HAPPENED.
YOUR HUSBAND WAS COMPLETELY
SHOCKED WHEN HE GOT OFF A PLANE
AND SENT TO JAIL.
WHAT WAS IT, 120 DAYS AGO NOW.
>> EXACTLY.
SO CARLOS GETS OFF THE PLANE AND
THEY TELL HIM HE HAS A PROBLEM
WITH HIS VISA AND HE GOES INTO A
ROOM AND HE SEES THE MAN SITTING
DOWN.
HE TELLS THEM I'M THE PROSECUTOR
FROM TOKYO.
AND WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO COME
WITH US TO THE DETENTION CENTER.
CARLOS SAID FOR WHAT?
AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE
UNDER ARREST.
HE DIDN'T EXPLAIN TO HIM
ANYTHING.
HE DIDN'T EVEN QUESTION HIM.
HE JUST TOOK HIM TO THE
DETENTION CENTER.
THEY TOOK ALL HIS CLOTHES OFF.
THEY TOOK EVERYTHING OFF.
THEY PUT HIM IN PAJAMAS.
AND THEY THREW HIM IN JAIL.
MARIA: AND HE'S BEEN IN JAIL --
WELL, HE WAS THERE FOR 107 DAYS
AND THEN HE WAS OUT ON BAIL.
>> EXACTLY.
MARIA: TELL ME ABOUT THAT.
BECAUSE I WAS ABOUT TO INTERVIEW
CARLOS GHOSN TWO WEEKS AGO AND
WHILE WE WERE WAITING FOR YOU TO
CALL HIM, FOR HIM TO CALL IN TO
DO THE INTERVIEW, 20 AGENTS
STORMED IN THE APARTMENT AND
TOOK HIM AWAY AGAIN.
>> EXACTLY.
THE DOORBELL RANG AT 5:50 IN THE
MORNING AS IF WE'RE TERRORISTS
AND THEY WANTED TO TAKE US BY
SURPRISE AND WE OPENED THE DOOR.
WE WERE -- I JUMP
WE WERE -- J JUMP
WE WERE -- JUMUMP
WE WERE -- JUMPEP
WE WERE -- JUMPED OUT OF BED.
THEY WERE VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE
WE HAD A CAMERA IN THE APARTMENT
BUT
THT
THAT THE JUDGE PUT AS PART OF
THE BAIL CONDITION.
THEY WERE CONCERNED WHERE THE
CAMERA IS AND THEY WANTED TO
TAKE IT DOWN.
THEY DIDN'T WANT THE WORLD TO
SEE WHAT THEY WERE UP TO.
AND THEN THEY TOLD CARLOS,
YOU'RE COMING WITH US AGAIN, TO
THE DETENTION CENTER.
YOU'RE UNDER ARREST.
AND THEY DIDN'T TELL HIM WHY.
THEY JUST TOOK HIM.
AND HE GOT DRESSED AND AS HE WAS
LEAVING, HE TRIED TO GRAB A BOOK
BECAUSE HE KNEW HE WAS GOING TO
BE IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT AND
THEY TOLD HIM NO BOOK.
A AND THEN HE TRIED TO GRAB A
PIECE OF CHOCOLATE TO PUT IN HIS
POCKET.
THEY TOLD HIM NO CHOCOLATE.
I SAID WHY CAN'T THEY TAKE A
PIECE OF CHOCOLATE?
THEY SAID THIS IS JAPAN, THESE
ARE OUR WAYS.
THEY TOOK HIM AWAY AND HE LEFT.
I WAS NEVER AS PROUD OF CARLOS
AS THAT DAY.
BECAUSE -- I'VE BEEN SO PROUD OF
HIM FOR SO MANY REASONS.
BECAUSE HE LEFT WITH HIS HEAD UP
VERY HIGH AND HE LEFT IN DIGNITY
AND HE DIDN'T OPEN HIS MOUTH AND
-- IT WAS JUST SO HARD TO SEE
HIM GO AND HE DIDN'T QUESTION
THEM AND I WAS CRYING AND I WAS
PANICKED AND THAT WAS IT.
AND THEY TOOK HIM.
AND THEN THEY STAYED FOUR HOURS
IN THE APARTMENT, SEARCHING
EVERY SQUARE METER OF THE
APARTMENT.
THEY TOOK MY PASSPORT.
I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY
TOOK MY PASSPORT.
I'M NOT UNDER ARREST.
I'M NOT A SUSPECT.
THEY TOOK MY PHONE.
THEY TOOK MY LAPTOP.
THEY TOOK THESE LETTERS THAT I
WROTE EVERY DAY TO CARLOS WHILE
HE WAS IN THE DETENTION CENTER.
THEY TOOK ALL THE PAPERS THAT
HIS LAWYERS GAVE HIM REGARDING
THE CASE.
THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TAKE ALL
THESE THINGS.
THEN THEY WANTED TO TAKE ME IN
FOR QUESTIONING AND I SAID NO, I
WANT A LAWYER.
I'M AN AMERICAN CITIZEN AND I'M
ALLOWED TO HAVE A PHONE CALL.
I WANTED TO CALL MY KIDS TO TELL
THEM, YOU KNOW, I'M OKAY, DON'T
WORRY ABOUT ME.
I WAS SO R WORRIED ABOUT MY
CHILDREN AND MY PARENTS AND THEY
SAID NO PHONE CALL.
I SAID WHY NOT?
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AND THEY SAIDS
THIS IS JAPAN, AGAIN, THESE ARE
OUR LAWS.
THEY FORCED ME TO GIVE THE CODES
OF MY PHONE AND THEN I DID NOT
GO WITH THEM FOR QUESTIONING AND
THEN THEY LEFT AFTER FOUR HOURS.
MARIA: THEY TREATED YOU LIKE A
PRISONER AS WELL IN YOUR OWN
HOME.
YOU WERE IN THIS APARTMENT,
COURT APPOINTED APARTMENT.
YOU WANTED TO GO TO THE
BATHROOM, YOU WANTED TO TAKE A
SHOWER AND THEY WOULDN'T LET YOU
DO THAT.
>> I WAS IN MY PAJAMAS.
I SAID I'D LIKE TO GO TO THE
BATHROOM.
AT FIRST THEY SAID NO, I SAID I
HAVE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM.
A WOMAN WALKS IN THERE WITH ME
AND DOES A BODY CHECK.
WHAT AM I GOING TO HIDE UNDER MY
PAJAMAS.
THEN I WENT TO THE BATHROOM,
SHE'S STANDING IN THERE WITH ME.
WHAT WAS I SUPPOSED TO DO EVERYD
WHAT WAS I SUPPOSED TO DO EVERY.
EVERY TIME THEY DID A BODY
CHECK.
I WAS SO STRESSED OUT.
I SAID LET ME TAKE A SHOWER AND
GET DRESSED.
SHE CAME INTO THE BATHROOM,
WATCHING ME SHOWER AND SHE
HANDED ME THE TOWEL WHEN I CAME
OUT.
IS THIS HOW WE TREAT PEOPLE?
MARIA: CAROL, I KNOW THIS IS
VERY HARD FOR YOU.
AND YOUR HUSBAND HAS BEEN UNDER
INCREDIBLE PRESSURE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW THE
CONDITIONS ARE FOR CARLOS GHOSN
RIGHT NOW?
ARE THEY BATTERING HIM?
ARE THEY HURTING HIM?
WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD?
>> PHYSICALLY, THEY'RE NOT
VIOLENT.
BUT THEY QUESTION HIM WITHOUT A
LAWYER.
THIS IS IN JAPAN, THIS IS
HAPPENING.
UNTIL MIDNIGHT.
HE'S NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A
LAWYER.
HE'S IN COUL
HE'S IN SOUL
HE'S IN SOLL
HE'S IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.
THE LIGHTS ARE ON DAY AND NIGHT.
HE'S NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A
WATCH.
THEY WANT TO MENTAL ABUSE HIM,
DISORIENT HIM.
HE TAKES A SHOWER TWICE A WEEK.
ON THE WEEKENDS, THEY LOCK HIS
ROOM AND HE CAN'T COME OUT UNTIL
MONDAY, SO HE DOESN'T EVEN GET
HIS HALF AN HOUR OF WALKING ON
THE ROOF TO GET A BIT OF
DAYLIGHT AND FRESH AIR.
AND THEY PASS THE FOOD UNDER
LIKE THE DOOR.
MARIA: THEY'RE TREATING HIM
LIKE A MURDERER.
THESE FINANCIAL MISCONDUCT
ALLEGATIONS, CARLOS SAID HE'S
INNOCENT OF.
>> YES, CARLOS IS INNOCENT.
THIS IS BIGGER THAN HIM.
MARIA: HOW IS HIS PHYSICAL
BEING?
WE READ IN THE PAPER THAT HE'S
HAVING KIDNEY FAILURE POSSIBLY.
IS HE OKAY PHYSICALLY?
>> HE'S LOST 10 KILOS.
IS HE OKAY PHYSICALLY, SPENDING
120 DAYS IN DETENTION, YOU CAN'T
BE OKAY PHYSICALLY WHEN YOU'RE
ONLY EATING A BOWL OF RICE AND
YOU'RE UNDER ALL THIS TENSION.
WHEN I SAW HIM, HIS HANDS WERE
VERY YELLOW AS IF HE HAD
JAUNDICE.
IT WAS LACK OF SUN LIGHT.
I WAS VERY WORRIED ABOUT HIM.
CARLOS, HE'S OKAY BUT IS HE
HEALTHY?
NO, HE'S NOT HEALTHY.
MARIA: YOU'RE AN AMERICAN
CITIZEN.
>> YES.
MARIA: CARLOS' CHILDREN ARE
AMERICAN CITIZENS, YOUR
CHILDREN, OBVIOUSLY TOGETHER.
HIS FAMILY IS AMERICAN CITIZENS.
HAVE YOU HEARD FROM THE AMERICAN
GOVERNMENT?
HAS ANYONE REACHED OUT TO COLT
ABOUT THE WAY CARLOS IS BEING
TREATED?
>> NO, WE HAVEN'T HEARD.
MARIA: TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED
WITH YOU.
BECAUSE AFTER THEY REARRESTED
HIM, THEY WANTED TO QUESTION YOU
AND THEY WERE MAD THAT YOU LEFT.
>> YES.
MARIA: THEY TOOK YOUR PASSPORT
BUT THEN YOU HAD ANOTHER
PASSPORT.
>> CORRECT.
MARIA: TELL ME ABOUT THAT.
>> LUCKILY, I HAD ANOTHER
PASSPORT AND SO IT HAPPENED ON
THURSDAY, FRIDAY NIGHT I GOT ON
A PLANE AND I WENT TO PARIS
BECAUSE CARLOS IS A FRENCH
CITIZEN.
I WANTED TO GET HELP FROM THE
FRENCH PEOPLE AND TELL THE
STORY.
AFTER WHAT HAPPENED, I WAS
TRAUMA ADVERTISED.
SO THE JAPANESE ACCUSED ME ON
RUNNING AWAY TO HIDE EVIDENCE,
THAT I'M GUILTY, WHICH WAS NOT
THE CASE.
I WAS TEAR
I WAS TERRIFIED.
I KNOW NO ONE IN JAPAN.
THEY TOOK MY PHONES.
I HAD NO COMMUNICATION TO THE
OUTSIDE WORLD.
MY HUSBAND'S IN JAIL.
I CAN'T SEE HIM.
WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SEE HIM
WHILE HE'S IN DETENTION.
I CAN'T TALK TO HIM.
I HAVEN'T HEARD HIS VOICE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW HE'S DOING
OTHER THAN FROM THE LAWYERS.
THEN THEY CALLED ME BACK IN TO
BE QUESTIONED AND I WENT BACK TO
JAPAN TO SHOW THEM THAT WE ARE
INNOCENT.
WE HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE.
AND I WAS SCARED OF THEIR
TREATMENT, YES.
BUT I'M NOT SCARED TO GO BACK.
SO I WENT BACK AFTER THREE DAYS,
I WENT BACK TO JAPAN.
I TESTIFIED IN COURT AND NOW I'M
HERE IN NEW YORK.
MARIA: IT MUST BE VERY
DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO TRAVEL BACK
TO JAPAN, JUST KNOWING WHAT
THEY'RE DOING TO HIM.
I MEAN, ARE YOU SCARED FOR YOUR
OWN SAFETY?
>> OF COURSE I'M SCARED.
I'M SCARED BECAUSE WHAT I SAW, I
DIDN'T FIND NORMAL TREATMENT.
AND BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I
FEEL SO GUILTY, I LEFT HIM
BEHIND.
EVEN THOUGH I DON'T SEE HIM, I
KNOW HE'S ALL ALONE.
MARIA: I'M SO SORRY, CAROL.
YOU HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO HIM,
YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK TO
HIM.
>> NO, NO.
MARIA: WHAT ARE THEY TELLING
YOU IN RESPONSE TO WHY YOU CAN'T
EVEN -- HE CAN'T EVEN MAKE A
PHONE CALL.
>> THIS IS THEIR JUDICIAL
SYSTEM, THESE ARE THEIR LAWS AND
THIS IS JAPAN, AS HAD THEY SAY.
MARIA: THEY ARE THE THIRD
LARGEST ECONOMY AND THEY SAID
THAT THEY WERE A DEMOCRAT YOU DM
THAT THEY WERE A DEMOCRAT YOU DC
THAT THEY WERE A DEMOCRAT YOU DA
THAT THEY WERE A DEMOCRAT YOU DY
THAT THEY WERE A DEMOCRAT YOU DB
THAT THEY WERE A DEMOCRAT YOU DT
THERE HAVEN'T BEEN FORMAL
CHARGES AND HE CAN'T DEFEND
HIMSELF.
DO YOU BELIEVE HE WILL GET A
FAIR TRIAL?
>> WELL, ACCORDING TO HIS
LAWYERS, THEY'RE NOT TOO
CONFIDENT BECAUSE THE SIGNS THAT
WE'VE BEEN SEEING, NO.
MARIA: YOU DON'T THINK HE'LL
GET A FAIR TRIAL?
>> I DON'T THINK SO.
I HOPE HE WILL FOR OUR SAKE
BECAUSE IF HE DOESN'T GET A FAIR
TRIAL -- CARLOS IS INNOCENT, BUT
HIS LAWYERS ARE NOT TOO
CONFIDENT.
MARIA: SO WHAT HAPPENED, CAROL?
THIS WAS A COUP.
I REPORTED IT RIGHT FROM DAY
ONE, BECAUSE I KNEW A THAT THERE
WAS UPSET BEHIND THE SCENES
ABOUT HIM POSSIBLY WANTING TO
MERGE RENAULT AND NISSAN.
WAS THIS A COUP?
THAT'S WHAT CARLOS SAID.
>> YES.
MARIA: TELL US WHAT HAPPENED.
>> IT WAS A COUP.
MARIA: HIS NUMBER TWO --
>> HIS NUMBER TWO -- I MEAN, HIS
NUMBER TWO WAS ANOTHER PERSON,
HARRY NADA, FROM WHAT WE
UNDERSTAND AND THERE'S ANOTHER
-- A THIRD ONE, OMURA I THINK
HIS NAME IS.
THEY PLANNED THIS AND EVEN THE
BOARD OF NISSAN DID NOT KNOW
ABOUT THIS.
THEY FOUND OUT WITH EVERYONE
ELSE WHEN IT HIT THE NEWS.
AND THE AUDITORS OF NISSAN WHEN
-- IF THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG IN
THE COMPANY, YOU WOULD GO TO THE
BOARD FIRST, CORRECT, AND SAY
HEY, LISTEN, I'M SEEING THINGS,
WHAT SHOULD WE DO ABOUT IT.
HE DIDN'T TELL THE BOARD.
THEY WENT STRAIGHT TO THE
PROSECUTORS.
SO YOU KNOW, SOMETHING HAPPENED
THAT -- THE STEPS THAT IT TOOK,
IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THIS WAY.
MARIA: CARLOS WAS CELEBRATED IN
JAPAN AT ONE TIME.
HE RESCUED NISSAN FROM FAILURE.
I REMEMBER THERE WERE COMIC
BOOKS WRITTEN ABOUT CARLOS, THAT
HE WAS THIS CELEBRATED CEO THAT
FIXED ONE OF THE COUNTRY'S
JEWELS IN NISSAN.
HOW DID THE SENTIMENT TURN SO
AGAINST HIM SO QUICKLY?
>> WELL, WHEN YOU WANT TO
TARNISH SOMEONE'S REPUTATION
WITH THE PRESS IT'S VERY EASY.
YOU KNOW, THEY KEPT ON FEEDING
NEGATIVE AND FALSE INFORMATION
EVERY DAY, TURNING PEOPLE
AGAINST CARLOS, AND THIS IS WHAT
HAPPENED IN JAPAN.
AND WE WERE TOLD NOT TO SPEAK
OUT.
HIS FIRST LAWYER TOLD HIM, YOU
KNOW, IN JAPAN YOU STAY QUIET,
YOU DON'T SAY ANYTHING, YOU
DON'T DEFEND YOURSELF PUBLICLY.
IN THE MEANTIME, NISSAN WAS
TRASHING CARLOS ALL THE TIME AND
RUINING HIS REPUTATION AND AS IF
THEY FORGOT THAT HE SAVED THEM
OUT OF BANKRUPTCY.
ALL THE YEARS AND EVERYTHING
THAT HE DID WAS FORGOTTEN.
AND THE FUNNY THING IS, WHEN ALL
THESE ACCUSATIONS -- THERE WAS
NO MONEY BEING TAKEN.
AS IF THEY THREW HIM IN JAIL AND
THEY SAID OKAY, NOW WE HAVE HIM
IN JAIL, LET'S GO FIND THINGS
THAT HE'S DONE WRONG.
MARIA: I WANT TO TALK TO YOU
ABOUT THAT, CAROL.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT
BREAK AND COME BACK WITH CAROL
GHOSN, BECAUSE THERE'S A
STRUCTURE AT NISSAN WHERE AS IF
THERE WAS FINANCIAL AGREEMENTS,
THEY HAD TO GO TO THE BOARD AND
THE COMPENSATION COMMITTEE