- There's absolutely no guessing that doing
a widebodied cheer car is the thing to do right now.
If not widebodied, then over fenders.
Or maybe cut fenders.
Or anything that will make your car look
wider, meaner or more aggressive.
Widebodying your car is kind of like
growing a beard right now.
It's just what people do,
and, usually, everyone, probably, looks better
with a beard.
Still, I'm incapable of growing one
and that is making me sad.
But here's the problem though,
with the introduction of 9000 different body kits,
rep kits and even, borderline, straight-up,
cut-throat tops for fender flares,
there's a few, well, there's a couple of cars
out there that are getting a little bit with the ...
They're gettin' just a bit uglier.
All right.
After the modification has, actually, been done.
And this is mostly because they made some sort
of rookie mistake when they went
into widebodying their car
and then, you're left up with holes all over your car
and a little bit of desperate face
and you're trying to justify it with neat hashtags,
like built not bought and really you're just trying
to hold back the tears in your eyes.
♪ Who can say where the road goes ♪
It's okay because I've been there before.
Trust me.
I'm Alex.
Alex at I'll find the picture page with cars and cats
and today, we're talking about rookie mistakes
people end up making when they go to widebody their car.
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It's kinda what we do.
Anyway, moving into the biggest rookie mistake
that people make when widebodying their car
is not understanding the gravity of what they are
about to do to their car.
Like, it's a little bit fun and hilarious to watch,
but most current widebody kits involve
you cutting your wheel arches
and drilling holes in your ship for rivets
and you may even need some anti-rust spray
to throw up onto the cuts that you end up making.
You're going to needs some gasket sealer
and a good chunk of other stuff
that is a tid bit more difficult to get off
versus your typical plasti dipped wheels.
Mocking up is something that should be done,
three to four times before you even consider
jumping in to cutting your car.
We recommend doing this with the help of multiple people,
so that they can help you mount it and tape it up
and do everything that you would need
to make sure that is perfect.
Plus, a couple extra set of eyes are going to help you
look at things and make sure everything looks good
and nothing just looks a little bit off.
Because if you do it yourself, trust me,
you're gonna make mistakes.
The reason that this is a rookie mistake
is because I'm pretty sure every single person
that's ever done a widebody or over fender
for their first time has gotten overly excited,
blew a hole in their fender,
only to find out that it was like a 1/4 inch off
and then, they just pray that no one will ever look
underneath the flare for years to come.
I see you, Charlie.
But doing an over fender or wide body installation
is pretty rad, after all, you get to make your car wider.
It looks like a truck car.
It looks like it's ready to rip some streets up
and be all angry.
But remember, it's like the beard
of the car world right now,
but if the only thing you're thinking about
is when you go for widebody or over fendering your cars,
and you're not actually looking at your suspension
or wheel set-up,
it's gonna be tough.
You ever seen those trucks with the big ol' lift,
the fender flares on the side and then,
they got like the stock wheels that are six inches inside.
We're looking at you, custom offsets.
That's kind of a rough look, you know.
If you're jumping into the whole game
of over fendering or widebodying,
you're gonna want to make sure
that you get your suspension and wheels dialed in
at the same time.
When you're going to do a widebody or over fender,
it is somewhat of a big deal.
And it's gonna cost you a good chunk of change,
but you should do it all at the same time,
so that it gets properly done.
Otherwise, your car is gonna look like it skipped leg day
and your reveal post will be a little bit underwhelming
and you're probably not gonna have
a fun time in the comments.
We get only about 1000 comments and emails
asking about how to measure
for wheels when you go to widebody.
And the easiest way to do that is you have to find out
what fits your car pre widebody,
and then, find out how large your over fenders are.
Like 35 mm over fenders,
and then, subtract that from your offset
and viola, you pretty much have a wheel set-up
that is close to what you'll need for a wider set-up.
You'll also need to account for the width, though,
to make sure that you're not just slapping on
a good ol' chunk of negative offset,
but you're still running a seven inch wide wheel,
'cause that's getting a little bit,
that's a little bit bunk, okay.
You're gonna want to make sure you
that you find your inner wheel clearance and then,
setting it as wide as you can
with your offset outside for that.
You should be finding wheels that fit your application,
and if you prefer not to do the math,
we have calculators for all of this on our site
and you can just email us and we can help you out.
In case, whatever.
Most will end up needing to run multi-piece wheels
as few brands will carry wide enough wheels
or lightweight wheels to meet your most widebody
or to meet most of your widebody needs.
Really, the only few out there that are a little bit lighter
would be your Honda or possibly even your Ford star.
Here's the great news, though.
There's nothing quite like getting your parts in the mail.
It feels good.
You gotta take photos, right?
You rip open the boxes and find the flares.
You mock 'em up, you tape 'em three times.
You're doing all the right things.
But then, you notice that a little piece seems off.
Something about your rear fender flare piece
is hitting your side skirt and now you're just wondering
if you should just return the whole thing
and just pray that you never have to,
actually, think about it ever again.
There's a big oop there, but ...
And it's not actually uncommon on a lot of these kits
regardless of price.
You almost always need finishing touches or adjustments
on these kits.
And the reason for this is that a lot of kits
are made through molds and can have excess material
in it's fiberglass or poly piece.
Don't freak out.
It's normal.
A lot of over fenders and widebody kits
require additional work when you get them.
You can't just slap them on.
Sometimes, those indents for the rivet holes are too thin
and require them to be beefed up
through additional fiberglass material.
Sometimes, the arch of the fender piece
will overhang on the side skirt
which requires you to cut an entire section off
or peel off the other body parts
to make the whole thing fit.
It can become a little bit of a roller coaster of emotion
and if you're not ready, it's not going to be fun.
That's just how it goes.
Another thing to remember
with widebodying and over fendering your car
is that you're legitimately making
your car physically wider.
This is a number of things to your car
that if you pair it with suspension, wheels and tires,
you're probably gonna to experience.
A.
You'll likely get some heavier johnnies on that boy
which is actually going to slow down your car.
Now, it's not going to be that much,
but if you have a lot of forced power,
you're gonna feel it a little bit more.
Two.
The driving experience can be, well, lower
because it won't feel as tight as it did before
because the wheels are probably going to be outside
of your car more than inside.
And three.
Since most of these widebody and over fender kits
are riveted on,
you're gonna hear and feel more.
Whether that be noise, rattle, rubbing or flapping,
the better you install,
the less likely this is gonna happen,
but it's not uncommon for those rivets
to pop out over time or those over fenders
to crack due to the stress
that is put on them during assembly.
You're just gonna have more stuff to deal with
and you're gonna have to be okay with that
because you can't just slap 'em on
and pray that it never causes an issue.
Remember, the duggas-duggas from before.
Same rule applies.
You can't dugga your way through this installation.
Otherwise, your kit won't last one night
on a Wisconsin highway, son.
The dugga duggas, they gotta stop, okay?
Cease the duggas.
And here's a speed round for ya, in case,
you're really interested in learning what other mistakes
you can make when slapping on a good ol' widebody.
Rivet gaskets work great for increasing
the longevity of your kit against your fender,
but it's not a look that a lot of people seem to go for.
If you can, do something minimal that helps the rivets
do it's job of keeping your over fender
or widebody kit in one place/piece.
And you can do that either with a thin, think gasket
or even a sealer.
Over fenders and widebody almost always require
cutting of the existing flare,
since it's purpose is inherently
to widen the stance of your car.
Do not keep your stock fender uncut
and just slap an over fender on top of it.
If your doing a widebody,
it's just a thing you don't do.
Mostly because you'll end up eating tire with your old flare
and it, also, just looks kinda weird.
It's kinda not, it's frowned upon in common society.
Most people are gonna look if you've done it or not.
Just trust me on that one.
Kits will often require maintenance checks,
just like every other mod on your car.
Check the bottom of your kit.
Usually, near the back of each wheel
with every few 100 miles to make sure nothing is
peeling up or exposing their metal.
Which going into bare metal,
treat anything you cut.
Otherwise, you're gonna have rust issues
and that's just nasty.
So, what's the biggest rookie mistake you made
when you decided to take a saw to your flares.
Drop a comment below and let us know.
And of course, if you're looking for after market
wheels, tires or suspension,
be sure to check our fitmentindustries.com.
I'm Alex from Fitment Industries
and we will see you guys later.
Peace.