What is y'all doing?
What y'all doing?
Hey, you lock a baby to me.
>> The video that you just witnessed included a young boy, about
10 years old getting detained because he allegedly stole a $3 bag of chips.
I'm really glad that the police are focusing their resources on
detaining a child over a bag of chips.
Now, this is a disturbing video that's been circulating online showing the three
Syracuse police officers accosting.
I apologize, not a 10 year old boy, an eight year old boy.
And they put him in the back of their police vehicle,
and then also took him to his parents home.
Now, before we explain the details,
I do want you to watch more context of this video.
Let's take a look at that and I'll tell you what happened afterward.
>> What is y'all doing?
What y'all doing, lock a baby to me?
I don't know what you're doing.
I just, so what's, what's going on there.
>> He's stealing stuff, if he breaks in you how to steal stuff.
>> No man, what's all, a bag of chips, so
y'all treat me like an old cold bloody killer?
You don't even know what I just came up, came up and see.
What's you all doing, what's you talking about?
>> That's against the law.
>> What's you all doing, take,
I'll pay for it, I'll pay for them.
You don't even know where he live, you're just throwing him in the car.
>> That's what they do, they come here.
>> Leave him alone kid, he a kid.
>> So the response from officials following the viral video,
is exactly what you could expect it to be.
So, the Syracuse police department says, they're doing an internal investigation,
blah, blah, blah.
We know where that goes, and
then you also have the mayor releasing a milk toast response to it.
When the online video was first shared with me on Monday, I was concerned,
I asked the Syracuse police department to review all body worn camera footage,
which is ongoing.
Like we see it clearly, and we see the video very clearly.
>> And maybe before the video started, I like they're gonna say that,
they're gonna say that.
>> There's a kid who allegedly stole a bag of chips, why are cops involved.
>> If they hadn't stopped him, what if he had stolen a drink, or
something like this is a spree, and it has to be shut down.
>> Listen, if you're the store owner, okay, and you're mad that a,
an eight year old boy stole something of very little value from your store.
Hit up the parents, why get the police police involved?
>> Or by the way, like my biggest issue, like we're,
we're lucky at least that in this case, it's not a video of the cops beating
the hell out of the eight year old nobody died.
So, in comparison to many videos that we have to cover every week,
this works out a little bit better.
That said, when you have this interaction,
you still get to choose as an individual police officer, how you deal with it.
And they decided to go like you send multiple people,
you get in people's faces when they express concerns, you disrespect them,
you imply what if he broke into your house?
I don't think he's kicking down any doors, this isn't like a breaking, and
entering situation.
It's just, it's, it's a bad way to go about it.
>> Listen,you obviously like you don't want to send
a message to kids that it's totally fine to like shoplift.
Okay, I get that, this is a good opportunity for
it to be a learning experience.
But it can't be a learning experience, if you traumatize a kid by forcing him into
the back of a police vehicle, that is traumatizing to an eight year old.
I remember being a kid, don't get, don't get too mad at my parents, okay,
they were good parents.
But I remember my parents like whenever I was acting up, they'd be like, we're gonna
call the police, and I was terrified at the thought of the police coming.
Just the thought of it, think about the mindset of an eight year old,
again this is a good teachable moment for him.
So if I were the store owner, or
if let's say the store owner decided to call the cops, and the cops show up.
If I were a cop, the way that I would handle it is, hey,
it's gonna be all right, what you did wasn't, okay.
We're gonna call your dad, we're gonna call your mom,
whoever whoever your parents are, we're gonna call them, and
we're gonna talk it out, and it'll be again, a moment to learn.
Instead of doing that, they treated this kid, like he's like some violent criminal.
And at first his father, I was like, yeah, they, they brought him home, and
they seemed perfectly fine.
They didn't have them in handcuffs or anything.
And then he saw the video, and was like mortified by the video, and
has decided to file a complaint with the police department as a result.
>> And look at the end of the day, it's up to them.
But yeah, the, the only thing I would have meant from what or
what you said is it's gonna be a moment of learning no matter what.
The question is gonna be, what lessons are gonna be learned by whom, what is that kid
gonna take away for the next few years for the rest of his life, about cops.
What about the community that gets to witness that?
All of the people who will see the video, like you're like, the cops are trained to
be so terrified of violence, deadly violence that could come from any corner.
Why aren't they trained to be at least a little bit concerned about the image that
they are presenting to the communities they're supposed to be serving.
>> And by the way, don't forget that this is happening with the backdrop
of violent crime increasing, right?
Something I've been talking about on the show.
This is what you're wasting your time with, really,
you're wasting your time with a 10 year old.
I'm sorry, I keep saying she's 10, eight year old kid.
>> Well, someone had yelled out, he looks 10, I think that got in a lot of people's
minds on the video, someone said he looks like he's 10.
>> But whether he's 10, or eight doesn't even matter,
it's a child, this is what you're spending your time doing.
It's, it's in fear.
>> It looks terrible.
>> It really is infuriate.
It looks terrible, it is terrible, and it has a psychological impact on the child,
that is not in any way productive, that's the point.
>> Yeah