>> Hi, Marianne Williamson, it's me, Sam Bee.
I am so loving your vibe.
So I wanted to invite you over to my show for a very chill, very serious campaign dropout
party.
We can have tea, throat lozenges, agave, and whatever else you use to make your voice sound
so angelic.
>> There's Samantha Bee trying to encourage Marianne Williamson to drop out, something
that I probably wouldn't pay much attention to previously.
But it just seems weird, and she's done this with several candidates.
She's done it with Tulsi Gabbard.
She's done it, I believe, with Mike Gravel.
>> Seth Moulton.
>> Seth Moulton, yes, and look, I don't like the Marianne Williamson one in particular.
Because it plays into this very dismissive nature that I'm seeing from people in the
media where they think she doesn't have experience in politics.
She doesn't know what she's doing.
The orbs, and the crystals, and the psychic stuff, that's all she's all about.
But she's actually incredibly smart, very well read, and very well aware of the major
political issues.
And I wanted to do a defense of Marianne Williamson, but she kinda pulled a stunt on Colbert recently
that I'm not in favor of, which we'll get to in a minute.
>> It's not a stunt, it's just a policy issue, but it does create a problem.
But first, the positive stuff, look, I think Samantha Bee has a slight issue.
It's not that she's against progressives per se.
She hits Bernie Sanders all the time.
But Seth Moulton's a conservative, so I'm not worried about the politics of it as much
as punching down.
So even Moulton right now, he's a conservative Democrat that I'm not in favor of, but he's
hurt, dog, don't ask him if he's all right.
And it's kind of a cheap laugh to go after these guys polling at 0% or whatever.
And so I've now seen Samantha Bee do 28 jokes that the establishment loves, and so the punching
down is beginning to be an issue.
I'm not trying to nitpick too much on comedy and overall I like her, but it's repeated
now.
>> And it's not just about Samantha Bee, right?
She is a comedian.
I hate policing comedy, so that's not what I'm trying to do here.
It's more about the dismissive nature I'm noticing from everyone in the media, both
mainstream and independent media, when it comes to Marianne Williamson.
And look, to be fair, she didn't really get much of an opportunity to speak during the
debates.
I wasn't dismissive of her, but I didn't really think much about Marianne Williamson until,
believe it or not, I watched her full interview on Dave Rubin's show.
And look- >> This is not to say-
>> That Dave Rubin's a great interviewer, that is not the case.
But she was given a platform where she was able to really speak her mind and delve into
the issues that matter to her.
And so I'm just gonna show you one video.
You should watch the full, I can't believe I'm saying this, the full interview.
Yeah, I don’t really, you should watch her interview with us on tyt.com, but okay.
>> Yeah, so anyway, let’s go to this clip, just to give you a sense of where she is coming
from.
>> There is a healthy skepticism that anyone should feel, any American should feel, left
or right, towards government overreach.
And left is filled just as much it just tends to be in different places.
Okay, stay out of our bedroom, etc.
Okay, so healthy skepticism about overreach by government, but let's not kid ourselves,
Dave.
The people we're talking about, government doing less today aren't saying small government.
They're saying let's just give the money to corporate control.
So where as you're saying you don't want overreach by government.
I'm saying what it has turned into in this country.
It's code, less overreach by government has turned into huge overreach by corporate forces.
So all the money that you're saying, well, I don't want the government to do that.
All that money just been marched over to short-term profit maximization for health insurance companies
and big pharmaceutical companies and gun manufacturers and chemical companies and fossil fuel companies
and defense contractors.
They're over way to this new matrix of corporate overlords is to me to be feared just as much
as overreach by government.
>> Look, the great thing about this interview is that Rubin's not smart.
So when someone speaks the way that she does, she can do so at a length, at a pretty lengthy
period of time without him chiming in.
And so she went into deep details on various issues, reparations, corporate control, corporate
greed.
I mean it was impressive.
I really, really enjoyed listening to her speak about these important issues and do
so as candidly as she did.
>> No, I actually think she's terrific in a lot of ways and I've interviewed her a number
of times.
But actually sometimes the interviews with a little bit more conflict does flesh out
the person's opinion better.
Marianne and I agree on the corporate control and being progressives, etc.
Whereas when she's talking to a right-winger like Dave Rubin-
>> That's right.
>> It allows her to punch back and then more fully explain.
And when John Delaney came on here, we had a great conversation cuz we didn't quite agree.
But it was a civil conversation where we went back and forth, and had an intelligent conversation.
You could still also see that on tyt.com.
Anyway, so I thought Marianne did a wonderful job there as well as overall.
And one other thing that they're discounting is that she built a giant movement in this
country.
And that's not a small thing.
And everybody's like, crystals, this this, ha ha, says I don't do it, I'm laughing, right?
But there are millions of people in this country that she has empowered and love her, and she
built that out of nowhere.
So I think she deserves a tremendous amount of respect for that.
>> I think she brings way more to the table than the boring establishment Democratic candidates
who you can't really differentiate one from the other.
So Buttigieg, Beto, what do they bring to the table?
What type of imagination or uniqueness do they bring to the table when it comes to governing
the country?
So look, I get it, people have an issue with the lack of experience, and I do think that
that's an issue.
But I also think it's important to have different candidates running who bring different strengths
to the table and engage different sections of the population.
I mean, we can't live in this bubble where we think everyone is like us, everyone thinks
like us, and everyone's gonna be interested in the same things.
There are different demographics that have various interests.
And I think that she actually does engage a portion of the population that otherwise
wouldn't be as involved in this upcoming election.
>> I find her a thousand times more interesting than standard politicians like John Hickenlooper
and Amy Klobuchar, right?
>> Exactly, exactly, yeah.
>> But the establishment people are like Klobuchar she's so standard.
Anyway, now let's go to the one issue that Marianne Williamson had.
So Samantha Bee takes a dig on her, come on my show and drop out where I'll make fun of
you.
And she says, no, sorry, I'm too busy doing Stephen Colbert.
And so she shot back and I liked the shots fired and I like the the attitude there.
Unfortunately, TYT Army did watch and caught something that she said that is problematic.
So let's listen to it, and then we'll talk about what can be done.
>> I'm a progressive, left-wing Democrat, but I-
>> Medicare for All?
>> Medicare, I want a public option, I think a public option in addition to the Obamacare
exchange.
Because I believe I wanna be an agent of change.
I don't wanna be an agent of chaos.
And I believe that's the best way to do it.
I think that there will be a transition to the Medicare for All flat.
And I think that the government can give subsidies to anybody who might be lost in the meantime.
So yeah, I think the public option is the best way to go.
>> Okay, so there's two issues there.
One- >> I take everything back.
>> Okay, no, no.
>> No, I'm just, I'm kidding.
I don't take everything back.
That was a disaster.
>> Yeah, no, look, I don't know about a disaster.
But I do know this.
Of course, I don't agree with that answer.
I think the public option has a number of problems.
We've talked about it a lot on this show.
I think Medicare for All is the right way to go.
But we disagree on a policy position.
So what?
I like Andrew Yang a lot.
He's another really interesting outsider I'd take over a standard politician, but there's
plenty I disagree with Andrew Yang about as well.
The problem here is that Marianne signed the Progressive Economic Pledge and it's for Medicare
for All.
And she's actually the first to sign it, so that's why when our volunteers at TYT Army
notice that they brought them to our attention.
So we'll look into it.
We'll reach out to her.
And we'll see if that makes sense or not but that pledge means something.
It's not just a gimmick.
And so we're definitely going to look into it and it doesn't mean she's a bad person.
Look, Andrew Yang didn't sign it, cuz he disagrees with some parts of it.
That's okay but we've got to be clear about are you in favor of those progressive positions
or are you not?
And if you wanna sign it or you wanna see what those are, it's tyt.com/pledge.