there has been anew all s f report that was released and it basically breaks
down
exactly what
when on with our top secret c_i_a_ programs
and because all the way back to the bush administration continues into the obon
administration
and
basically what they were looking for
was the number of governments
that either hosted c_i_a_ black sites
uh... and interrogated for tortured prisoners
sent by the u_s_
uh... and what they found it was that
the number of countries they collaborated in the program
is fifty four
so it's actually much more widespread than we originally thought
in the report also identifies by name
a hundred thirty-six prisoners
who are at some point subjected to by what they call extraordinary rendition
although the bush administration officials said they never intentionally
sent terrorism sucks suspects abroad
in order to be tortured
the countries where the prisoners
always seemed to end up
were countries that torture so agent libya and syria along a couple of others
and we were known
to uh... send the mayor to utilize coercive interrogation techniques
as it's called
that's the orwellian language the real languages torture
uh... so
what did rendition guess what the extraordinary rendition get as well
uh... there's one specific case which is of particular interest
a guy by the name of i'd been alle
shariq alley b
who is olympian national and top al-qaeda operative
who was detained in pakistan in late two thousand one
and was later sent by the u_s_ to egypt
and their under the threat of torture
he basically said that saddam hussein
had trained al-qaeda in biological and chemical warfare
now he later withdrew that claim
but of course the bush administration didn't say
okay by the way up
we
uh... dot
that information under coercive methods and he withdrew the comments
so by the way you know scratch stress that
nellie reallly interrogators were leaving him cuz they wanted him to say
that
he told them what they wanted to hear
and they use that specific lane
as uh... a big piece of the puzzle to try to sell the idea is the american
people
that saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction
and that he was going to use that
i mean this stuff is straight out of or woman
so
uh... then as we all know
all bombing came into power he promised and he's practices when he was
campaigning
but then when he got elected
he it
did a complete one eighty
complete flip-flop
and listen to this quote we dont office he said
we're relying on the quote diplomatic assurances of host countries
that they would not torture suspects
sent to them
for pretrial detention
so instead of saying hey we're gonna qualified it by a law
and b_ are really clear and you know we're gonna uh...
prosecute some of the people in the bush administration
for doing these methods
instead of going about it the right way
they do here at bethel everything i said during the campaign
uh... forget about its we'd under the rug
we're just gonna rely on the
diplomatic assurances
which is a you know
of politicians way of saying
it they tell if they're not torturing whatever we yes they're not torture
uh... so
did torturing continued that's the big question
under obama the answer is yes
uh... in fact the list of
of the nation's includes a range of american allies
like canada the united kingdom germany
and some familiar middle eastern partners
uh...
is uh... jordan yemen and united a reverence
and
there are alleged levels of purchase a patient
vary widely sold
uh... your countries like poland which agreed
to host to c_i_a_ black site prisons
and then there's nations like portugal in finland
which is that all right now we don't want a black sites here
the way you can do is you can use our air space
uh... to transfer the people when you're doing extraordinary renditions
look uh... whenever i read about this stuff
and indeed the
always effort for nicole evert
in no uncertain terms
that extraordinary rendition
uh... torture
and the number of countries that participated in it with us as a much
higher number in i was much more pervasive the rear than we originally
thought
so whenever i read about this stuff
anionic my blood boil
and i'll give you two
super concrete examples
what's wrong with it and why it should make your blood boil to
if it already doesnt right
so first things first usb uh... orderly clear about this
these methods or unconstitutional
not only are they unconstitutional
they're illegal according to international laws well geneva
conventions
the nuremberg tribunal
there's also a quote from somebody at the nuremberg tribunals
and they basically said look
uh... you know we could do
this whole this whole trial and it will end up being a force in the end if all
of the country's dole beta laws that we lay out here
and we were talking to us about nazi germany right it was
look they're guilty of these war crimes here's how we're gonna codified what you
can do
and then xa nine years later
we start doing some of the tactics that are explicitly laid out in the nuremberg
tribunal
that you can do
right so it's illegal on uh...
the federal level
according to our government our constitution it's also a legal corn
international law the geneva conventions nuremberg tribunal
but then here's the practical reason and here's
why it's a legal right
it's not just like
it's one of these you know flowery liberal laws that it's is there
uh... you know for dead people to obey the we can break it since we're the good
people now
it's is a very important lobby cause
case in point
uh... udya name a rocker knots
locomotive he never heard of a and you are eighty
k u r
an easy
uh... rocker nyse
is uh... and gentleman
who is uh... a turkish citizen
living in germany
traveled to pakistan to lorna different language right
he was gonna get married he was only nineteen years old
uh... was captured by the pakistani government
shipped to afghanistan
then shipped to guantanamo bay
held with no evidence of anything any wrong doing any affiliation with al
qaeda
or any extremist groups
they know the american government knew
that there was no evidence on
they held him for five years anyway at one time about it
and then at the yet and they re and will send other one
loops
and they just released
so here we detain somebody
from when they're nineteen years old over five years old in captivity
tortured in fact there's a list idea electro shocked uh...
they did uh... some type of electrical shopping
uh... torture method
they did waterboarding david palestinian hangings
uh... an even he wrote a book so i i don't think it's out in the cutting is
out in other places writings probably afraid to release it here
this is how uncivilized nation acs
i mean this is exactly why in the founding documents
they call it a you have a right to a trial
you have a right to habeas corpus
and as some people making government yet kyle but he's not american citizen so
uh... the constitution of the planet
that's come stems from a fundamental misunderstanding of what do you not
united states constitution is
the constitution is a limits on the federal government
so if you're limiting the federal government from doing x_ y_ and z_
that means it doesn't matter if it's a citizen or not citizen
they are human beings
so they should be subject to the same rights
and they should be protected from the same abuses
of federal government gone mad
which is exactly what's going on in this case
and another concrete example
well why
uh... civil liberties exists and why it's
so important
to get back to a state of affairs
where the government protect civil liberties instead of trampling all over
them right
is uh...
halloween dot
uh... over a hundred
of are
detainees in guantanamo bay
were from pakistan
so what the bush administration had done is they said to our allies in pakistan
they said hey look
uh... you know we have a long time obey
uh... we have abu gray but all these black sites all these presents
and
we to film on them
and if you have if you know of any suspected terrorists
uh... if you have any al-qaeda operatives
in pakistan
ship into also will give you a monetary reward
so the leadership in pakistan said
all right
that sounds olson
i get money for sending u prisoners
and we rely on it right
the pakistani government the officials went onto the streets
picked up pakistani government protesters
these people i know affiliation with al qaeda
never wrote any type of law
well rounded out the protesters
ship them over a hundred of them
to guantanamo bay to other black size to other
but secret c_i_a_ presence
and we proceeded to talk to them and hold them for years
no evidence of their wrongdoing whatsoever in fact they were completely
innocent
that's the problem when you don't obey the constitution
all these any right wingers these republicans who think
level there are only going to use that to get an terrorists
no
hold on their hillbilly
the reality is
the same type of skepticism you look at every other area government with
you should use it more so in this area because it turns out the government more
often than not
gets it did get wrong when it comes to picking up people
of more suspected terrorists