LET'S KEEP IT GOING WITH
THE PANEL.
>> THIS QUESTION IS FOR BOTH OF
YOU.
THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY
INDICATES THAT MANY WARNING
SIGNS OF TERRORISM IN THE UNITED
STATES AND ABROAD CAN BE FOUND
ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
WHAT CAN THE GOVERNMENT DO TO
ENHANCE TERROR PLOT DETECTION IN
THE CYBER WORLD WITHOUT
VIOLATING PRIVACY?
MR. RUBENS: WE HAVE FOUND THAT
THESE AGGREGATIONS OF THE FOURTH
AMENDMENT DO NOTHING TO DEFEAT
TERRORISTS.
I HAVE AN EXTENSIVE PLAN TO
RESIST AND KILL ISIS ON MY
WEBSITE.
NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE GOT TO
REJECT HILLARY CLINTON AND MY
OPPONENT'S FAILED NATIONBUILDING
WAR STRATEGY.
THEY HAVE ADVOCATED GOING INTO
LIBYA.
THEY HAVE GONE INTO SYRIA AND
ARMED AND TRAINED THE SO-CALLED
MODERATES.
NOW WE HAVE AN ISIS CALIPHATE.
SAUDI ARABIA, IT HAS CREATED A
MASSIVE HUMAN DISASTER.
REFUGEES, A HUMANITARIAN CRISIS.
WHAT WE DO NEED TO DO IS SEAL
OUR BORDERS.
WE HAVE GOT TO FOURTH SAUDI
ARABIA TO SEIZE AND DESIST.
AND WE HAVE GOT TO GO TO
CONGRESS, RESPECT OUR VETERANS
AND SOLDIERS, AND DECLARE WAR,
INCLUDING A PLAN TO WIN AN EXIT.
JOSH: HOW DU POLICE THE
INTERNET?
MR. RUBENS: AS A PART OF MY PLAN
-- AGAIN, I HAVE TO SEND YOU TO
JIMRUBENS.COM.
WE NEED A SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN.
IT MAY BE IN PART GOVERNMENT-RUN
AND IT MAY BE RUN BY VOLUNTEERS
AND WE NEED TO PUSH BACK IN
EVERY WAY POSSIBLE AGAINST THIS
MARKETING CAMPAIGN.
SAUDI ARABIA, THEY FUNDED THE
PEOPLE WHO KILLED ALMOST 3000
AMERICANS ON 9/11.
SAUDI ARABIA IS THE WORLD'S
LEADING FUNDER OF TERROR AND
TERROR IDEOLOGY.
THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WE HAVE TO
SHUT DOWN.
YOU CANNOT STOP TERRORISM IF WE
LEAVE COUNTRIES LIKE TURKEY AND
SAUDI ARABIA.
IT IS A FUNDAMENTAL FLAW.
JOSH: SENATOR, IF YOU WOULD LIKE
TO REBUT ON THIS QUESTION, FEEL
FREE.
SEN. AYOTTE: I WOULD LIKE TO
ANSWER HIS QUESTION.
HAVING BEEN A PROSECUTOR ITSELF,
THE FBI IS MISSING A TOOL IN
THEIR TOOLBOX.
WE HAD A VOTE IN THE SENATE ON
THIS.
RIGHT NOW, IN A CHILD
PORNOGRAPHY CASE, YOU CAN GET
BASIC INTERNET RECORDS THAT THEY
ARE BEING LIMITED FROM GETTING
IN A TERRORISM CASE.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT CONTENT.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BASIC
RECORDS OF WHEN PEOPLE CONNECT
ONLINE.
THEY ARE BEING DENIED.
I VOTED TO SUPPORT THAT IN THE
SENATE.
IT FAILED BY ONE VOTE.
I KNOW ONE THING -- WE NEED TO
ENCOURAGE TWITTER AND FACEBOOK.
THEY HAVE TAKEN DOWN THOUSANDS
OF SITES RELATED TO TERRORISM.
THIS CAN BE ONE WHERE WE CALL ON
THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO MAKE SURE
THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE PROMOTING
TERRORISM, THAT THEY TAKE THESE
SITES DOWN.
WE CANNOT ALLOW ISIS TO PROMOTE
TERRORISM.
WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE OUR FIRST
RESPONDERS HAVE THE TOOLS THAT
THEY HAVE IN A BASIC CRIMINAL
CASE IN A TERRORISM CASE.
>> WOULD YOU SUPPORT MILITARY
ACTION TO COUNTER A CYBER ATTACK
ON THE COUNTRY'S INFRASTRUCTURE?
SEN. AYOTTE: I WOULD SUPPORT
MAKING SURE WE NEED TO DO WHAT
WE NEED TO DO TO KEEP THE
COUNTRY SAFE.
IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE
CIRCUMSTANCES.
I KNOW ONE THING -- WE NEED TO
IMPROVE OUR CYBER RESPONSE.
WE HAVE PROFESSIONALS FOCUSED ON
NOT ONLY DEFENDING THE NATION
AGAINST CYBER ATTACKS, BUT
FOCUSING ON COUNTERATTACKS.
OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK
AT WHAT HAPPENED TO HAVE AN
APPROPRIATE RESPONSE.
I HAVE BEEN VERY DISAPPOINTED,
FOR EXAMPLE, IN -- INSTANCES
WHERE YOU HAVE SEEN CHINA AND
RUSSIA ATTACKING US IN THE CYBER
WORLD.
WE HAVE NOT COME UP WITH AN
APPROPRIATE RESPONSE.
EVEN WHEN WE THINK ABOUT
ECONOMIC SANCTIONS AND THE FIRST
THINGS WE CAN USE, THE FIRST
TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX ARE THE
KINDS OF ACTIONS WE HAVE TO GO
TO.
WE HAVE TO PROTECT THIS COUNTRY.
IF SOMEONE GOES AFTER OUR
CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, WE HAVE
TO TAKE APPROPRIATE STEPS TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE STOP THEM AND
MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOES NOT
HAPPEN AGAIN.
>> WOULD YOU SUPPORT MILITARY
ACTION TO COUNTER A CYBER
ATTACK?
MR. RUBENS: WE HAVE A FAILED
MILITARY STRATEGY PROMULGATED BY
HILLARY CLINTON AND MY OPPONENT.
IT IS NOT WORKING.
IT HAS MADE AMERICA LESS SAFE.
WE NEED A FUNDAMENTAL RETHINK OF
MILITARY STRATEGY.
WE NEED THE STRONGEST, MOST
TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED
MILITARY IN THE WORLD.
WE NEED TO DEFEND THE SEA LAN
IN SPACE AND COMMUNICATIONS.
WHEN WE RETHINK THIS STRATEGY,
WE WILL BE THINKING ABOUT
STOPPING PORK THAT IS BEING USED
IN MILITARY SPENDING.
MY OPPONENT VOTED FOR THINGS
LIKE THE F 35 FIGHTER, WHICH IS
PORK.
SHE OPPOSES A MILITARY BASE
CLOSING ROUND WHICH WILL
ELIMINATE PORK.
WE NEED TO FOCUS ON REUNITE --
REALIGNING OUR STRATEGY AROUND
LONG-TERM AND SHORT-TERM
THREATS.
AND THEN THE SPENDING.
FOCUSED ON THOSE THREATS.
JOSH: SENATOR, YOU CAN RESPOND
IF YOU ARE LIKELY SEN. AYOTTE:
TO BE CLEAR, I HAVE BEEN A BIG
CRITIC OF THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION FOR POLICY.
WHEN THEY WITHDREW OUR TROOPS IN
IRAQ, CREATING THE VACUUM THAT
WE SAW ISIS RISE FROM, I WAS
CRITICAL OF THAT.
THE IRAN DEAL, THE TRANSFER OF
PRISONERS FROM GITMO.
THIS IS AN AREA WHERE I DIFFER
FROM GOVERNOR MAGGIE HASSAN IN
TERMS OF HER DEFENSE OF THE
CLINTON FOREIGN-POLICY WHEN IT
COMES TO IRAN.
SHE WILL NOT EVEN TELL US
WHETHER SHE WOULD SUPPORT HAVING
TERRORISTS TRANSFERRED TO THE
UNITED STATES.
JOSH: WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO
A NEW ISSUE.