>>> IT'S WHAT A CLASSIC AUTHORITARIAN DOES.
NOT JUST ABOUT INFLUENCING YOUR INSTITUTIONS AND VALUES, THEY
WANT TO INFLUENCE YOUR REALTY. >> THAT WAS HOW HILLARY CLINTON
CONCLUDED HER REMARKS AT THAT CALIFORNIA TECH CONFERENCE TODAY
WHERE SHE MADE NEWS ON HER VIEWS OF THE RUSSIAN INQUIRY WE PLAYED
AT THE TOP OF THE SHOW. BUT SHE WENT FAR FROM THE FBI.
SHE WAS PUSHING BACK ON A QUESTION OF TWITTER'S IMPACT ON
CIVIL DISCOURSE AND URGING HER AUDIENCE TO KEEP THEIR EYE ON
THE BALL. >> YOU CAN'T LET TRUMP AND HIS
ALLIES BE A DIVERSION, THEY ARE A THREAT.
AND THEY HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVE UP UNTIL NOW.
SO TWITTER IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE, YOU'RE GOING TO DRIVE UP THE
NUMBERS, YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE CHASING RABBITS DOWN RABBIT
HOLES AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF HAPPENING.
WHY? TO DIVERT ATTENTION.
IT'S LIKE KOFIFI, TRENDING WORLDWIDE.
MAYBE FOR A MINUTE YOU'LL FORGET, THE LATEST ACCUSATIONS
ABOUT THEM CONSPIRING WITH RUSSIA OR THEIR TRILLION
MATHEMATICAL MISTAKE IN THEIR BUDGET OR DEPRIVING 21 MILLION
PEOPLE OF HEALTHCARE. IT'S THE CIRCUS, RIGHT.
IT'S WHAT A CLASSIC AUTHORITARIAN DOES.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT INFLUENCING YOUR INSTITUTIONS, YOUR VALUES,
THEY WANT TO INFLUENCE YOUR REALITY.
>> YOUR REALITY. THAT WAS A BIG THEME FOR CLINTON
TODAY. IN THE WORLD OF POLITICAL
PROPAGANDA AND VIRAL LIES WHERE THE BENEFICIARIES OF FAKE NEWS
GO AROUND ACCUSING THE REAL NEWS OF BEING FAKE NEWS, SHE ARGUED
REALITY ITSELF IS UNDER SIEGE. HILLARY CLINTON DID NOT WIN THE
ELECTORAL COLLEGE BUT TODAY SHE REITERATED SHE WON MORE VOTES
AND WANTS TO WORK TO EXPOSE HOW DISAGREEMENTS ABOUT HOW REALITY
AND THE TRUTH ITSELF SHE ARGUES ARE CORRODING DEMOCRACY.
JOINING ME NOW, I'M VERY HAPPY TO SAY IS ANDREA MITCHELL, NBC
NEWS CHIEF FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT, THE HOST OF NBC'S
"ANDREA MITCHELL REPORTS" AND A LONG-TIME REPORTER AND
CHRONICLER OF THE CLINTONS. YOUR IMPRESSION OF WHAT WE HEARD
TODAY AND HOW IT DIFFERED, IF AT ALL, FROM PAST HILLARY CLINTON
STATEMENTS. >> WELL, SHE FIRST OF ALL REALLY
DRILLED DOWN ON THE FAKE NEWS, THE ROLE OF INFO WARS, AND SAID
THAT IT WAS VERY CLEAR TO HER THAT THERE WERE AMERICANS
DIRECTING AND COLLUDING, CONSPIRING REALLY WITH THE
RUSSIAN HACKERS WITH THE OTHERS WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THE HACKING
IN THE DROPPING OF WIKILEAKS ONLY AN HOUR AFTER THE "ACCESS
HOLLYWOOD" TAPE WAS DISCLOSED. AND SAYING THAT THEY WERE DOING
SO WITH SUCH POLITICAL SOPHISTICATION.
SHE IS BASICALLY POINTING TO THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN SAYING THAT THE
DOTS ARE NOW BEING CONNECTED IN THE INVESTIGATION.
SHE MENTIONED -- SHE MENTIONED JARED KUSHNER.
SHE MENTIONED BANNON AND KELLYANNE CONWAY IN THE CONTEXT
OF THE FACT THAT THE MERCERS, THE BIG FUNDRAISERS WHO
CONTRIBUTE TO THE CAMPAIGN AND OWNED CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICS HAD
SAID TO TRUMP BRING ON BANNON FROM BREITBART.
BRING ON KELLYANNE CONWAY WHO ARE ALREADY ON THEIR PAYROLL AS
PART OF A DEAL, AND THAT THEY CONNECTED WITH THE DATA BANK AND
THE RNC. SO SHE IS DRAWING A CONSPIRACY
THEORY. SHE DOESN'T HAVE THE EVIDENCE,
BUT SHE IS OBVIOUSLY HOPING THAT THIS IS WHAT ROBERT MUELLER AND
THE CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE IS GOING TO DO.
SHE IS ALSO NOT BLAMING HERSELF. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHE
HAS SAID BEFORE. THAT SHE BELIEVES DESPITE THE
MISTAKES THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE POINTED OUT IN JUDGMENT AND
IN CAMPAIGN STRATEGY THAT THEY WERE TRENDING UPWARD, AND SHE
KEEPS POINTING TO THE DATA THAT SHOW THAT WHEN JAMES COMEY 11
DAYS OUT DROPPED HIS LETTER AND REOPENED THE E-MAIL ISSUE, THAT
THAT'S WHAT STALLED HER MOMENTUM, ESPECIALLY CUTTING IN
HALF SHE SAID HER POLLING ADVANTAGE WITH SUBURBAN WOMEN IN
PENNSYLVANIA, WHERE SHE -- ONE OF THE THREE STATES THAT LED TO
A CUMULATIVE LOSS OF 77,000 VOTES.
THAT DELIVERED THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE TO DONALD TRUMP.
>> AND SHE SPOKE ABOUT HIS APPEAL AND THE WAY THAT HE
APPROACHES POLITICS. LISTEN TO HER ON THAT POINT.
>> HE DOES HAVE A VISCERAL GRASP OF AMERICA'S POLITICAL
UNDERBELLY. HE REALLY UNDERSTANDS HOW TO
INFLAME PEOPLE, HOW TO MOTIVE THEM, HOW TO BOND WITH THEM OVER
WHATEVER THEIR GRIEVANCE IS, YOU KNOW.
WHATEVER RESENTMENT OR POINT OF ANGER THAT YOU MAY HAVE, IF HE
CAN GET INTO IT, WHETHER IT'S RACE OR SEX OR XENOPHOBIA OR
ANTI-ISLAM PHOBIA, WHATEVER IT IS.
>> WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF THAT ANALYSIS OF HERS?
>> SHE -- SHE IS TRYING TO COME TO GRIPS WITH THE KIND OF
RHETORIC AND THE KIND OF ANGER THAT HE WAS ABLE TO EXPLOIT.
INTERESTINGLY, SHE ALSO SAYS THAT THERE IS FROM HER VIEW
MISOGYNY IN THIS. THAT VOTERS ARE WILLING TO
ACCEPT ANGER AND PASSION FROM A BERNIE SANDERS, FROM A DONALD
TRUMP AT A CAMPAIGN RALLY IN A WAY THAT THEY WILL NOT ACCEPT IT
FROM HER. NOW OTHERS HAVE CRITICIZED HER
DELIVERY AND HER VOICE AND OTHER ASPECTS OF HER.
SHE SAYS THAT THAT IS A DOUBLE STANDARD.
THAT THERE IS A SEXISM STILL INVOLVED IN THE WAY VOTERS VIEW
CANDIDATES. >> RIGHT.
>> WHO ARE FEMALE. BY THE WAY --
>> YEAH, GO THE WAY. >> NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY.
IF YOU THOUGHT THE CAMPAIGN WAS OVER AND THAT HE HAS BEEN
PRESIDENT FOR 204 DAYS OR SOMETHING, TONIGHT THIS TRUMP
TWEET AND HER RESPONSE, HE TWEETED "CROOKED HILLARY CLINTON
NOW BLAMES EVERYBODY BUT HERSELF, REFUSES TO SAY SHE WAS
TERRIBLE CANDIDATE, HITS FACEBOOK AND EVEN DEMS AND DNC."
SO HE IS CALLING HER CROOKED HILLARY.
LAST I KNEW THERE WAS NO FBI INVESTIGATION INTO HER.
BUT THERE IS AN FBI INTO HIS CAMPAIGN.
AND SHE TWEETED BACK "PEO"PEOPL COVFEFE HOUSES SHOULDN'T THROW
COVFEFE." THAT LATE TONIGHT.
>> I SEE THAT. AND I SEE IT'S 9:30 P.M. THAT
SHE POSTED THAT. IT ALREADY HAS 26,000 RETWEETS
AND COUNTING. INTERESTING TO SEE THESE TWO
OBVIOUSLY STILL GOING AT IT, USING TWITTER, PART OF THE
INFORMATION ARCHITECTURE THAT SHE IS ALLEGING SHE BELIEVES
PART OF A POTENTIAL TYPE OF COLLUSION AS YOU REPORT.
AND ALSO THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW IT AFFECTS ALL THIS.
ON THE SEXISM, I WONDER WHAT YOU THINK OF ALL THAT, HAVING
FOLLOWED HER FOR SO LONG AND SHE'S HAD THESE DIFFERENT
CHAPTERS. ONE THING I HEARD HER REALLY
STRESS TODAY IS YES, SHE ACKNOWLEDGES PEOPLE DIDN'T LIKE
SOME OF WHAT SHE DID, BUT SHE PUT IT IN THE LARGER CONTEXT OF
THE LARGER STANDARD THAT WOMEN CANDIDATES ARE HELD.
TO SHE WAS QUITE EXPLICIT. SHE CITED RESEARCH THAT SHERYL
SANDBERG FROM FACEBOOK HAS CITED IN "LEAN IN."
DOCUMENTED DATA THAT SHOWS INVERSE RELATIONSHIP TO THE
SUCCESS OF THEIR GENDER. MORE SUCCESSFUL MEN LAUDED.
MORE SUCCESSFUL WOMEN RUN INTO A LOT MORE ANTIPATHY.
IT STRUCK MY EAR SHE WAS GETTING INTO IT MORE THAN ON THE
CAMPAIGN TRAIL. >> SHE TRIED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE
OF GENDER INITIALLY WHEN SHE ANNOUNCED ON ROOSEVELT ISLAND,
SPEAKING ABOUT HER MOTHER, SPEAKING OF HERSELF AS A
GRANDMOTHER. SHE WAS USING IT IN A WAY SHE
NEVER DID IN THE 2008 CAMPAIGN WHEN SHE WAS TRYING TO PROVE SHE
IS TOUGH AND COMMANDER IN CHIEF. AND I THINK THEY REALIZED SHE
NEEDED TO SOFTEN THE EDGES BUT THEN SHE REVERTED TO A CAMPAIGN
THAT DIDN'T REALLY DEAL WITH GENDER.
AND I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THEY HAD POLLING DATA THAT THERE WAS
STILL RESISTANCE TO ACCEPTING A WOMAN CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT.
EVEN AFTER ACCEPTING THAT SHE COULD BE TOUGH ENOUGH TO BE
SECRETARY OF STATE. AND DEAL WITH FOREIGN POLICY.
THEY REALLY IS -- SHE FEELS, AND I THINK THE DATA PROBABLY
SUPPORTS HER ON THIS THAT THERE WAS A DOUBLE STANDARD IN THE WAY
THEY ACCEPTED A BERNIE SANDERS OR A DONALD TRUMP BEING
PASSIONATE. NOW IT'S ALSO AFFECT.
IT'S THE WAY WE REACT TO A VOICE AND SEEING A WOMAN GETTING MORE
HIGH PITCH AND BEING ANGRY. I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING TO
THAT. THAT SAID, PEOPLE WILL ARGUE
THAT SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT FARTHER AHEAD SO THAT THE COMEY
HIT 11 DAYS OUT DIDN'T HURT SO BADLY AS IT DID.
BUT SHE REALLY BELIEVES IT WAS DETERMINATIVE.
SHE HAS POLLING DATA FROM PLENTY OF PEOPLE, NATE SILVER AND
OTHERS TO SHE WAS GOING UP AND THEN SHE FLAT LINE AND STARTED
HEADING DOWN. >> RIGHT.
AND YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE THAT WAS SHE IS ON THE NEWS AND ON
THE INFORMATION AS EVER. SHE HAD ALL HER EXAMPLES READY.
IF ANYTHING STRUCK ME AT LEAST AS MORE CANDID THAN USUAL.
ANDREA MITCHELL, HOST OF