DOUBT.
KRISTINA.
THANK YOU.
MELISSA.
MELISSA: JOINING US HARVEY
LEVIN, "TMZ" FOUNDER.
YOU'RE ALSO A LAWYER.
WE WANTED TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT
DIFFERENT TACT OF THIS SEGMENT.
EVERYBODY IS DOING THE KIND OF
STRAIGHTFORWARD ARE THESE GUYS
GOING TO JAIL.
I WANTED TO ASK YOU THE IMPACT
IT WILL HAVE ON THEIR ABILITY TO
MAKE MONEY GOING FORWARD.
WE COVERED THE FINANCIAL PEOPLE
WHO RAN VENTURE FUNDS, ETHICS
FUNDS.
OBVIOUSLY IT IS CAREER-ENDING
THEY'RE DEALING WITH MONEY AND
TRUST AND LAWYERS.
FOR ACTORS IT'S A LITTLE BIT
DIFFERENT, I DON'T KNOW, BEING A
CRIMINAL DOESN'T NECESSARILY
KNOCK YOU OUT FROM BEING AN
ACTOR.
IT IS HARDER FOR LORI LOUGHLIN
RIGHT, HER IMAGE WAS HALLMARK,
SQUEAKY-CLEAN.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR HER
CAREER?
>> WELL, MELISSA, I HAVE A
SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TAKE ON THIS.
EVEN WITH BUSINESS PEOPLE
BECAUSE I ALWAYS THINK OF
MICHAEL MILKIN, WHO SERVED TIME
AND MICHAEL MILKIN CAME BACK AND
ESPECIALLY IN THE WORLD OF
CHARITY, WHICH INTERSECTS WITH
BUSINESS BECAUSE HE RAISES
MONEY.
HE HAS WIPED THE SLATE CLEAN IN
MANY WAYS.
I DON'T THINK IT IS ALWAYS TRUE
EVEN IN BUSINESS BUT IN ACTING,
ENTERTAINMENT GENERALLY, LOOK, I
MEAN, I HAVE SEEN, YOU KNOW,
LOOK AT KOBE BRYANT FOR CRYING
OUT LOUD.
WHEN YOU GO BACK IN TIME TO THAT
TRIAL, EVERYBODY WAS WRITING HIM
OFF, SAYING HE WILL NEVER GET
ANOTHER ENDORSEMENT?
WILL HE PLAY AGAIN?
WILL THE LAKERS FIRE HIM?
HE WON AN OSCAR.
SO YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THERE IS
NOTHING THAT SUCCEEDS LIKE
SUCCESS.
MELISSA: YEAH.
>> WE'VE SEEN IT WITH MICHAEL
VICK, YOU KNOW, COMING BACK
AFTER PRISON.
WE'VE SEEN IT ON A DIFFERENT
LEVEL WITH JUSTIN BIEBER WHO IS
DOING NOTHING BUT GETTING IN
TROUBLE, HAVING CRIMINAL CHARGES
FILED AGAINST HIM.
A GOOD ALBUM AND DIFFERENT
CONDUCT CHANGES THINGS.
MELISSA: LET ME ASK YOU THIS ON
THE MILKIN POINT, TO BE CLEAR HE
COULDN'T TRADE SECURITY.
>> FAIR POINT.
FAIR POINT.
MELISSA: YOU'RE RIGHT HE HAS A
HUGE MILKIN CONFERENCE COMING UP
IN L.A. VERY SOON.
HE HAS GONE ON TO REALLY
REHABILITATE HIS IMAGE, DO A LOT
OF VERY GOOD WORK.
FOR LORI LOUGHLIN, HER CURRENT
CAREER, SO HALLMARK DROPPED HER
BUT YOUR POINT IS, A LOT OF
PEOPLE ARE SAYING SHE COULD
ACTUALLY GET JAIL TIME BECAUSE
ONE OF THE PROBLEMS, YOU CAN
PUNISH A FINANCIAL CRIME GIVING
PEOPLE A CRIME.
THEY USED MONEY TO GET OUT OF
SOMETHING.
A LOT OF ATTORNEYS ARE TRYING TO
MAKE THE CASE, ESPECIALLY IN HER
CASE, SHE MIGHT HAVE TO DO SOME
JAIL TIME BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE
JUDGE RIGHT WAY TO PUNISH A
CRIME LIKE THIS.
HER CRIMES ARE MORE SERIOUS.
FELICITY HUFFMAN, SHE HAD STUFF
IN POSTPRODUCTION.
WILLIAM H. MACY HE DOESN'T SEEM
TO BE WRAPPED UP IN THIS AT ALL.
I DON'T KNOW WHY ANY LESS
CULPABLE THAN LORI LOUGHLIN'S
HUSBAND.
WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THAT?
>> THERE WAS SOME EVIDENCE WITH
WILLIAM H. MACY AND THEY DID NOT
CHARGE HIM, AND YOU KNOW, THAT
WAS CLEARLY A JUDGMENT CALL BY
PROSECUTORS, BUT HE IS MENTIONED
IN THE INDICTMENT IN TERMS OF
PHONE CALLS AND WHATNOT.
A COUPLE THINGS THAT YOU SAID,
YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THEM IS
IN TERMS OF JAIL TIME, YOU MAKE
GOOD POINTS AND WE ARE TOLD BY
SOURCES CONNECTED TO THE U.S.
ATTORNEY, THAT IF THEY END UP
PLEA BARGAINING THIS CASE I
THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN, THE
PROSECUTORS ARE GOING TO
RECOMMEND PRISON TIME.
AND IT IS UP TO THE JUDGE
ULTIMATELY BUT THEY ARE GOING TO
RECOMMEND IT.
AND LOOK, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT
IS A MISTAKE AND I THINK THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT OUR COUNTRY IS
DOING, THE MEDIA DOES.
I HAVE SEEN THIS FOR SO LONG
WHERE IT IS JUST NOT TRUE.
PEOPLE TAKE SNAPSHOTS OF MOMENTS
IN TIME WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS
TO SOMEBODY, WHEN THEY'RE IN A
SCANDAL, WHEN THERE IS A PROBLEM
OR WHATEVER ELSE, THEY TRY TO
USE THAT TO DEFINE THEM FOR THE
REST OF THEIR LIVES AND THAT
ALMOST NEVER HAPPENS.
THAT SNAPSHOT AT THE WORST
MOMENT, ALMOST NEVER WOULD BE
WHAT IS CARRIED FORWARD AND ONLY
THING REMEMBERED.
IT JUST ISN'T TRUE.
WE FEEL LIKE IT IS TRUE BECAUSE
THE MEDIA MAGNIFYs EVERYTHING.
I BLAME OURSELVES.
MELISSA: EVIL MEDIA.
WE'RE ALL CULPABLE.
>> MELISSA, I'M NOT SAYING EVIL
AT ALL.
I'M SAYING LOOK IT IS PART OF
THE JOB, WE'RE REPORTING ALL
THIS STUFF BUT I THINK PEOPLE
JUMP TO THESE CONCLUSIONS, THIS
WILL DEFINE THEIR LIVES FOREVER,
AND JUST GENERALLY DOESN'T.
MELISSA: COULD EVEN BE BETTER
FOR LORI LOUGHLIN, GIVE HER A
GRITTY EDGE.
SHE CAN BREAK OUT OF THE GOODIE
TWO-SHOES THING AND HAVE
HARDCORE ACTING CAREER.