"MORNING JOE." >>> I WOULD MAKE IT AN EARNED
BENEFIT, JUST LIKE SOCIAL
SECURITY, SO THAT YOU BUY IN
YOUR WHOLE LIFE, IT IS ALWAYS
THERE FOR YOU.
IT’S PERMANENT AND IT’S
UNIVERSAL.
UNIVERSAL. >> YOU TAKE MEDICARE A FLAVOR OF
THAT, YOU MAKE IT AVAILABLE THAT
PEOPLE CAN BUY IN.
>> THE QUICKEST AND FASTEST WAY
TO DO IT IS TO BUILD ON OBAMA
CARE.
CARE. EVERYONE HAS AN OPTION.
EVERYONE WHETHER THEY HAVE
PRIVATE INSURANCE, EMPLOYER
INSURANCE OR NO INSURANCE, THEY
IN FACT CAN BUY IN ON THE
EXCHANGE TO A MEDICARE LIKE
PLAN.
PLAN. >> I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE
THAT EVERY OTHER MAJOR COUNTRY
ON EARTH INCLUDING MY NEIGHBOR
50 MILES NORTH OF ME CANADA
SOMEHOW HAS FIGURED OUT A WAY TO
PROVIDE HEALTH CARE TO EVERY
MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD AND IN MOST
CASES THEY’RE SPENDING 50% PER
CAPITA WHAT WE ARE SPENDING.
>> WHEN SENATOR SANDERS SAYS
THAT CANADA IS SINGLE PAYER,
THERE ARE 35 MILLION PEOPLE IN
CANADA.
CANADA. THERE ARE 330 MILLION PEOPLE IN
THE UNITED STATES, EASILY THE
NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON A PUBLIC
OPTION THAT COULD -- THAT COULD
EASILY BE 35 MILLION.
FOR THEM IT WOULD BE MEDICARE
FOR ALL.
FOR ALL. AS MAYOR BUTTIGIEG SAYS, BUT FOR
OTHERS THAT THEY WANT TO KEEP IT
THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO KEEP IT.
[ APPLAUSE ]
>>> JOINING US NOW DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE AND CHAIR
OF THE NATIONAL GOVERNORS
ASSOCIATION, GOVERNOR STEVE
BULLOCK OF MONTANA WHO I THINK
JOE, MAYBE IN SOME WAYS HE’S THE
LUCKY ONE.
LUCKY ONE. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. YOU’RE THE LUCKY ONE.
NOBODY YELLED AT YOU LAST NIGHT,
GOVERNOR, SO CONGRATULATIONS ON
BEING SO ASTUTE IN PLANNING THIS
OUT.
OUT. SO, GOVERNOR, WHAT’S YOUR TAKE
ON WHAT YOU SAW LAST NIGHT?
WE’LL GET INTO THE SPECIFICS BUT
OVERALL, WAS LAST NIGHT A NET
WIN OR A NET LOSS FOR THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND THOSE OF US
WHO WANT DONALD TRUMP TO BE SENT
HOME NEXT YEAR?
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. INSTEAD OF BEING WITH YOU, MIKA
AND JOE, I WAS ACTUALLY AT TOWN
HALLS IN IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE.
FOLKS THAT ACTUALLY VOTE.
LOOK, I DIDN’T GET TO SEE THE
WHOLE THING, BUT FROM MY
PERSPECTIVE THAT I THINK WHAT
PEOPLE WANT IS SOMEBODY WHO CAN
ONE, BEAT DONALD TRUMP.
TWO, GETS THE ISSUES AND THE
CHALLENGES THAT PEOPLE’S LIVES
FACE AND GET SOME THINGS DONE.
WE CAN’T HAVE DEBATES THAT SEEM
DISCONNECTED FROM WHAT PEOPLE
NEED IN THEIR DAILY LIVES.
AND SO I THINK THAT WE STILL
HAVE QUITE A BIT OF WORK TO DO
TO MAKE THAT ALL HAPPEN.
NOW, WHEN IT COMES TO BEATING
DONALD TRUMP, I’M THE ONLY ONE
IN THIS FIELD THAT ACTUALLY WON
IN A TRUMP STATE BECAUSE WE NEED
TO BRING BOTH OUR BASE AND WIN
BACK SOME OF THE PLACES THAT WE
LOST.
LOST. AND FOLKS ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR
HEARING ABOUT HOW THEIR LIVES
WILL BE IMPACTED.
ACTUAL VOTERS.
ACTUAL VOTERS. AND WE HAVE GOT TO SHOW THAT WE
CAN GET THINGS DONE.
YOU KNOW, EVEN IN THIS DIVIDED
TIME I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET
MEANINGFUL THINGS DONE LIKE
MEDICAID EXPANSION, HEALTH CARE
FOR FOLKS, FREEZING COLLEGE
TUITION.
TUITION. BY THE END OF ALL OF THIS, I
KNOW WE’RE WAY EARLY TO DO IT
BUT THE AVERAGE FOLKS OUT THERE
HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT WE COULD
ACTUALLY AS DEMOCRATS IMPROVE
THEIR LIVES AND FIGHT FOR THEM.
>> SO WE’LL ASK YOU THE QUESTION
THAT THE CANDIDATES WERE ASKED
ON THE STAGE ABOUT HEALTH CARE
FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THAT?
>> LOOK, I THINK WE HAVE THAT A
HUMANITARIAN CRISIS ON THE
BORDER, BUT NO, I WOULD NOT BE
PROVIDING INSURANCE FOR THOSE
THAT HAVE COME INTO OUR COUNTRY
WITHOUT DOCUMENTATION.
WITHOUT DOCUMENTATION. >> OKAY.
>> OKAY. THERE YOU GO.
>> AND SO YOU WOULD HAVE STOOD
ALONE ON THAT ONE AND THE
OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF
AMERICANS I’M GUESSING WOULD BE
WITH YOU ON THAT.
WE’LL FIND OUT IN THE COMING
DAYS.
DAYS. LET ME IS ASK YOU A QUESTION
ABOUT MEDICARE FOR ALL.
MANY OF THEM SUPPORT MEDICARE
FOR ALL AND IF YOU DIG DOWN INTO
IT THE PURE MEANING OF THAT, THE
BERNIE SANDERS, ELIZABETH WARREN
MEANING OF THAT IS THAT 180
MILLION AMERICANS LOSE THEIR
PRIVATE HEALTH CARE INSURANCE
AND LOSE ACCESS TO THEIR DOCTORS
AND TO MEDICAL PROVIDERS THAT
THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW.
WOULD YOU SUPPORT THAT?
>> LOOK, HEALTH CARE CAN BE
ACCESSIBLE AND AFFORDABLE
WITHOUT DISRUPTING 180 MILLION
FOLKS.
FOLKS. I WOULD SUPPORT A PUBLIC OPTION,
ABOUT BUYING INTO THE MEDICARE
OPTION AND WITH THE COST OF
PRESCRIPTION DRUGS THAT THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COULD
NEGOTIATE FOR DRUG PRICES.
AND WE NEED TO GET RID OF OUT OF
NETWORK BILLING.
NETWORK BILLING. THE SURPRISE MEDICAL BILLING BUT
YOU CAN DO THAT WITHOUT
COMPLETELY UP ENDING THE CARE
THAT FOLKS GET AND THOSE WHO
HAVE EMPLOYER SPONSORED
INSURANCE WHICH IS SOMEWHERE
BETWEEN 150 AND 180 MILLION
AMERICANS.
AMERICANS. >> GOVERNOR BULLOCK, IT’S WILLIE
GEIST.
GEIST. GOOD TO SEE YOU.
JOE BIDEN ENTERED THE DELEGATE
WITH A BIG LEAD AS THE
FRONT-RUNNER.
FRONT-RUNNER. DO YOU BELIEVE HE LOOKED LIKE A
STRONG FRONT-RUNNER LAST NIGHT?
>> WELL, I THINK AT THE END OF
THE DAY, WILLIE, THAT’S FOR THE
VOTERS TO DECIDE.
BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, LOOK, WE
HAVE 225 DAYS BEFORE THE FIRST
VOTER ACTUALLY EXPRESSES THEIR
PREFERENCE.
PREFERENCE. AND WE HAVE GOT TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT CAN
BEAT DONALD TRUMP.
I THINK FROM WHERE -- WHEN I
TRAVEL THAT’S NUMBER ONE FOR
FOLKS IS MAKING SURE THAT TRUMP
ISN’T PRESIDENT COME 2020.
AND I THINK THAT I HAVE
SOMETHING TO OFFER THERE THAT A
LOT OF FOLKS DON’T.
>> ADRIENNE?
>> ADRIENNE? >> GOVERNOR BULLOCK, YOU TWEETED
LAST NIGHT THAT WE HAVE NOT
HEARD ANY ANSWERS ON HOW TO
STAND UP FOR RURAL COMMUNITIES
AND WIN BACK THE PLACES THAT WE
LOST.
LOST. WHAT EXACTLY WERE YOU TALKING
ABOUT WHEN YOU REFERENCED THAT?
>> THANKS, ADRIENNE.
I THINK THERE’S A LOT OF
DISCUSSION, THERE’S NOT THE
VOICES -- IT’S WASHINGTON, D.C.
AND OUR PARTY ISN’T ALWAYS
CONNECTING WITH RURAL AREAS.
YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK OVER THE LAST
DECADE ABOUT TWO-THIRDS OF THE
COUNTIES IN THIS COUNTRY LOST
BUSINESSES.
BUSINESSES. SHOULDN’T HAVE TO LEAVE YOUR
SCHOOL OR YOUR CHURCH OR
SYNAGOGUE OR YOUR COMMUNITY JUST
TO HAVE A DECENT JOB.
AND I THINK THE CHALLENGE -- YOU
KNOW, THERE’S A LOT OF THIS
DISCUSSION IN THE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY ABOUT WELL, DO WE BRING
OUT OUR BASE OR DO WE GET BACK
THOSE OBAMA OR TRUMP VOTERS AND
THE FACT IS WE HAVE TO BE ABLE
TO DO BOTH.
IF WE DON’T WIN PLACES LIKE
MICHIGAN, WISCONSIN,
MICHIGAN, WISCONSIN, PENNSYLVANIA AGAIN, WE’RE NOT
GOING TO WIN THIS ELECTION.
SO WE HAVE GOT TO BE ABLE TO BE
COMPETITIVE IN BOTH BUT WE HAVE
TO BE TALKING ABOUT WHAT MATTERS
IN PEOPLE’S LIVES.
YOU KNOW, MY TOWN HALLS IN NEW
HAMPSHIRE AND IOWA IN THE LAST
TWO DAYS, WHAT I HEARD IS FOLKS
TALKING AGO EVERYTHING FROM FARM
PRICES.
PRICES. WILL I CONTINUE TO KEEP MY FARM,
TO THE QUALITY OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS
TO THE BASIC ECONOMIC ISSUES
THAT IMPACT PEOPLE EVERY SINGLE
DAY WHEN THEY’RE TRYING TO TURN
AROUND AND SAY, CAN I HAVE A
BETTER LIFE AND CAN I PROVIDE A
BETTER LIFE FOR MY KIDS AND
GRANDKIDS.
GRANDKIDS. >> MICHAEL STEELE?
>> MICHAEL STEELE HERE.
A QUESTION, HEY, THE DEMOCRATS
SEEM TO BE HAVING AN IDENTITY
CRISIS AND THE PRESIDENT IS SORT
OF EXASPERATING THIS, TALKING
ABOUT THERE’S RUMORS ABOUT THE
DEMOCRATS CHANGING THEIR NAME TO
THE SOCIALIST PARTY.
THAT ASIDE, THERE IS AN
UNDERCURRENT OF -- TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS AS JOE AND
OTHERS HAVE POINTED OUT ON A
POLICY PROSCRIPTION POINT, THEY
SEEM TO BE LEANING MORE IN THIS
GOVERNMENT CAN DO IT ALL FOR YOU
ENVIRONMENT.
ENVIRONMENT. WHAT’S YOUR TAKE OF WHERE THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS AND AS THE
FUTURE TITULAR HEAD OF THE PARTY
AS PRESIDENT HOW DO YOU NAVIGATE
THAT DIVIDE THAT SEEMS TO BE
GROWING WITHIN THE RANKS OF THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY?
DEMOCRATIC PARTY? >> WELL, I THINK THAT THERE’S A
LOT OF BOTH GREAT ENERGY AND
DIVERSITY IN THE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY RIGHT NOW.
THAT NEEDS TO BE FOCUSED TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE CAN BEAT DONALD
TRUMP.
TRUMP. I MEAN, EACH AND EVERY DAY AS
WE’RE UP AND OUT TALKING IT
CAN’T ALL BE ABOUT DONALD TRUMP.
THERE’S NOTHING MORE THAN THE
PRESIDENT WOULD LIKE IS TO MAKE
THIS ALL ABOUT HIM AND HIM TO
CATEGORIZE OF US NOT BEING
CONNECTED TO THE AVERAGE VOTER.
THE AVERAGE FOLKS, LIFE IS TOO
BUSY TO EVEN TUNE INTO THE SORT
OF DEBATES.
OF DEBATES. SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GO
FORWARD AND SAY YOU KNOW WHAT,
THIS GUY SAID HE’D DRAIN THE
SWAMP.
SWAMP. IT’S SWAMPIER THAN EVER.
LOOK AT THE TRUMP TAX CUTS,
TRILLION STOCK BUY BACKS THEY
DIDN’T GO MOST PEOPLE COME TO
VOTE IN NOVEMBER AND THE PEOPLE
THAT CLEANED THAT BAR THAT
YOU’RE AT TODAY, THEY PAY MORE
TAXES THAN MOST OF THE FORTUNE
500 COMPANIES.
500 COMPANIES. GOVERNMENT CAN BE A CONSTRUCTIVE
PARTNER, NOT DO EVERYTHING FOR
YOU THOUGH.
YOU THOUGH. >> GOVERNOR BULLOCK, GREAT TO
HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.
THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR
BEING ON.
BEING ON. >>> COMING UP ON "MORNING JOE,"
WE STILL HAVE FOUR MORE
DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL
DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES TO TALK TO.
SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS AND
SENATOR KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND WILL
JOIN US TO DISCUSS THEIR DEBATE
PERFORMANCES LAST NIGHT.
AND COLORADO SENATOR MICHAEL
BENNET WILL BE HERE.
BUT FIRST, SOUTH BEND MAYOR PETE
BUTTIGIEG JOINS THE
CONVERSATION.