>> WELCOME BACK, JOINING ME NOW, COLORADO SENATOR AND
PRESIDENTIAL HOPEFUL MICHAEL
BENNET.
BENNET. I HATE ASKING OTHER CANDIDATES
ABOUT POLL NUMBERS.
HOWEVER, YOUR CANDIDACY DOES
SEEM TIED TO JOE BIDEN’S.
DO YOU FEEL IT?
YOU DEFEND -- YOU HAVE SIMILAR
MEDICARE FOR ALL IDEAS.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> MEANING YOU HAVE MEDICARE X.
IT’S SIMILAR.
IT’S SIMILAR. IN SOME WAYS I WOULD ARGUE YOU
DEFENDED HIS PROPOSAL BETTER
THAN HE DID A COUPLE OF DEBATES
AGO.
AGO. >> I WOULD SAY IT’S MY PROPOSAL,
ALTHOUGH I’M HAPPY TO HAVE HIM
JOIN ME.
JOIN ME. >> FAIR ENOUGH.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF HIS
RESILIENCY?
RESILIENCY? >> I THINK PEOPLE -- THE NUMBER
ONE ISSUE FOR DEMOCRATIC VOTERS
IS FINDING SOMEBODY WHO CAN BEAT
DONALD TRUMP.
DONALD TRUMP. AND AS LONG AS JOE BIDEN HAS THE
WELL-EARNED NAME IDENTIFICATION
THAT HE HAS, IT’S GOING TO BE
HARD TO DISLODGE PEOPLE UNLESS
SOMETHING CHANGES IN THE RACE.
>> DOES IT MAKE IT HARDER FOR
YOU TO BREAK THROUGH?
YOU’RE NOT ON THE FAR LEFT LANE
OVER HERE.
OVER HERE. >> NO.
>> NO. >> YOU’RE TRYING TO SORT OF
STRADDLE THE SORT OF PRAGMATIC
CENTER.
CENTER. I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL IT.
I’LL LET YOU DESCRIBE IT.
EVERYONE HAS A DRCH NAME FOR IT.
IT SEEMS BIDEN IS CASTING A SHAD
SHADOW OVER THAT EFFORT.
>> I THINK THAT’S FAIR TO SAY
HE’S CASTING A SHADOW OVER THAT
EFFORT.
EFFORT. I DON’T THINK IT’S FAIR TO SAY
WE’RE THE SAME PERSON.
WE HAVE DIFFERENT POINTS OF
VIEW.
VIEW. HE SAID IF WE JUST GET RID OF
TRUMP WE’LL GO BACK TO WORKING
TOGETHER IN A BIPARTISAN WAY.
NOBODY WANTS TO WORK IN A
BIPARTISAN WAY MORE THAN I DO,
BUT WE’VE HAD GERRYMANDERING TO
THE RISE OF FREEDOM CAUCUS
THAT’S MADE WASHINGTON BROKEN.
IT’S BROKE IN WASHINGTON.
WE HAVE TO FIX THAT.
I THINK BY BUILDING A
CONSTITUENCY OUTSIDE OF
WASHINGTON, THAT’S A DIFFERENT
POINT OF VIEW AND DIFFERENT
VANTAGE POINT.
VANTAGE POINT. >> I’M CURIOUS, HAVE YOU SEEN A
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT IOWANS
SAY TO YOU AND WHAT YOUR
COLORADON CONSTITUENTS SAY TO
YOU?
YOU? >> NO, ACTUALLY.
I THINK IOWA AND COLORADO, WE’RE
ONE STATE APART FROM EACH OTHER.
WHAT I SEE IS INCREDIBLE
CONSISTENCY.
CONSISTENCY. THEY WANT TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP.
THEY WANT US TO FIGURE OUT HOW
TO COVER EVERYBODY WITH HEALTH
CARE.
CARE. IF I HAD TO SUMMARIZE IOWA AND
COLORADO, PEOPLE WOULD SAY
MICHAEL WE’RE WORKING HARD BUT
WE CAN’T AFFORD A MIDDLE CLASS
LIFE.
LIFE. THAT’S WHAT THEY’RE SAYING.
>> BY THE WAY, IT IS THE COMMON
ISSUE IN EVERY STATE IN AMERICA.
EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME ISSUE.
I WOULD THROW TRANSPORTATION IN
THERE AS WELL.
ALL WRAPPED UP IN SAME ISSUE.
>> PEOPLE THAT AREN’T COMING TO
MY TOWN HALLS, WHOSE KIDS ARE
LIVING IN POVERTY, WHO ARE THE
FAMILIES I USED TO WORK FOR WHEN
I WAS SUPERINTENDENT OF DENVER
PUBLIC SCHOOLS, THEY WOULD SAY
WE’RE KILLING OURSELVES, NO
WHART WE DO, WE CAN’T GET OUR
KIDS OUT OF POVERTY.
>> WHEN I’M NOT HERE IN
WASHINGTON, I REALIZE HOW ODD IT
LOOKS AT TIMES THAT WASHINGTON
IS OBSESSED, CONSUMED BY
IMPEACHMENT.
IMPEACHMENT. AND I THINK RIGHTFULLY SO.
IT’S A VERY SERIOUS
INVESTIGATION THAT’S HAPPENING
BUT I AM MINDFUL THAT THE REST
OF THE COUNTRY IS WATCHING IT IN
A FISH BOWL.
THEY’RE NOT AS CONSUMED BY IT.
HOW HAS THIS IMPACTED YOUR
CAMPAIGN?
CAMPAIGN? NOT JUST YOURS.
>> WE’LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW
TO WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE SAME
TIME.
TIME. IT’S NOT GOING TO BE EASY TO DO.
THOSE OF US WHO ARE IN THE
SENATE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO
MAKE SURE WE CARRY IT OUT WELL.
CHUCK, YOUR POINT ON THE
PERSPECTIVE IS INTERESTING TO
ME, TOO.
ME, TOO. I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS ALL
DAY TODAY.
DAY TODAY. IT’S HOW PEOPLE IN IOWA VIEW
WASHINGTON, HOW PEOPLE IN
COLORADO VIEW WASHINGTON.
ON A DAY LIKE TODAY, WHAT’S THE
REST OF THE WORLD THINKING ABOUT
WASHINGTON?
WASHINGTON? WHEN YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF ELECTED
OFFICIALS STORM INTO A SECURE
ROOM, WHAT DOES IT --
>> JIMMY KIMMEL WHEN THEY WOULD
MAKE FUN OF OTHER PARLIAMENTS.
LOOK AT THEM.
THEY CAN’T RUN THEIR DEMOCRACY.
>> EXACTLY.
>> EXACTLY. >> NOW WE’RE THE --
>> OR TRUMP CAVES TO ERDOGAN IN
THE MIDDLE OF SYRIA.
>> HOW MANY OF PEOPLE YOU TALK
TO IN IOWA WANT OUT OF THESE
WARS?
WARS? THERE’S SOMETHING THAT I THINK
IS AN ODD DISCONNECT.
ONE HAND, EVERYBODY IS
RIGHTFULLY CONCERN ABOUT HOW
THIS IS DONE BUT HE’S ON TO
SOMETHING, BIGGER PICTURE.
>> THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT
POINT.
POINT. SOMEBODY LEAN EDED OVER TO ME IN
OUR CAUCUS LUNCH AND SAID NOBODY
CARES WHAT HAPPENS IN NOR
NORTHERN SYRIA.
NORTHERN SYRIA. >> IT’S SHAMEFUL THAT THAT’S
TRUE.
TRUE. >> AND THEY SAID THAT’S WHY WE
NEED A BETTER CLASS OF ELECTED
LEADERS IN WASHINGTON, IN THE
WHITE HOUSE AND IN THE SENATE
BECAUSE IT MATTERS TO NATIONAL
SECURITY INTERESTS OF THE UNITED
STATES WHAT HAPPENS HERE.
AND THE METAPOINT THAT HE HAS,
WHICH IS WE SHOULDN’T HAVE MADE
SO MANY MISTAKES IN THE MIDDLE
EAST, THAT HAPPENS TO BE TRUE.
THIS CASE IS THE CASE WHERE OVER
THE COURSE OF FIVE YEARS, WE PUT
ISIS BACK IN A BOX.
WE LOST SIX GUYS AND THE KURDS
LOST 10,000, AND YOU’RE GOING TO
PICK THAT AS THE ONE THING YOU
WALK AWAY FROM IF YOU’RE
PRESIDENT, WITH ALL THE
COLLATERAL DAMAGE?
COLLATERAL DAMAGE? >> LET ME TALK ABOUT YOU’RE A
STUDENT OF HISTORY.
ALEXANDER HAMILLTON COMES BACK
ALIVE TODAY AND SEES OUR
SITUATION.
SITUATION. IMPEACHMENT BECAUSE OF HOW HE’S
CONDUCTING HIMSELF IN OFFICE 11
MONTHS FROM AN ELECTION.
KNOWING NOW WHAT OUR SYSTEM
DOES, WHAT DO YOU THINK -- WHAT
DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD ADVISE?
>> I THINK THEY WOULD SAY THAT
THE SYSTEM -- THESE GUYS WERE
STUDENTS OF HISTORY AS WELL, A
VERY PARTICULAR KIND OF HISTORY,
ROMAN HISTORY.
ROMAN HISTORY. AND THEY SET UP THIS WHOLE
ENTERPRISE FOR FEAR OF A GUY
LIKE DONALD TRUMP, YOU KNOW, WHO
IS A TYRANT.
THAT’S WHAT THEY WERE SCARED OF.
>> YOU THINK THEY WOULD SAY YOU
BETTER PROCEED THROUGH THE
PROCESS?
PROCESS? >> I THINK THAT’S WHAT THEY
WOULD SAY.
WOULD SAY. >> EVEN IF THERE’S AN ELECTION?
>> I THINK THAT’S WHAT THEY
WOULD SAY.
WOULD SAY. >> JANUARY, DO YOU THINK YOU