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>>> THIS IS NEW DAY NORTHWEST. HERE IS MARGARET LARSON.
>> GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO
NEW DAY NORTHWEST.
THE GROUND DOG SAYS THAT
SPRING IS COMING AND I WANT TO
BELIEVE HIM BUT WITH THE SPRING
COME HUNGRY DEER INTO OUR
YARDS.
YARDS.
YARDS. WE
YARDS. WE INVITED LANDSCAPE DESIGNER
AND AUTHOR OF DEER RESISTANT
DESIGN KAREN CHAPMAN TO HELP US
SORT IT OUT.
>> IT IS NICE TO BE HERE.
>> THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT WE
HAVE.
HAVE.
HAVE. I
HAVE. I LOVE SEEING THE DEER BUT I DO
NOT WANT THEM TO EAT THE
PLANTS.
PLANTS.
PLANTS. WHAT IS THE THING THAT WE MOST
OFTEN DO THAT MAY BE THE WRONG
THING?
THING?
THING? >>
THING? >> I THINK THE MOST COMMON
THING IS WE RUSH OUT TO THE
NURSERY AND GRAB ANY AND ALL
PLANTS THAT SAID THEY ARE DEER
RESISTANT AND WE JUST PUT THEM
IN A PLACE THINKING IT WILL
TRANSLATE INTO A BEAUTIFUL
DESIGN.
DESIGN.
DESIGN. THAT IS NOT ACTUALLY THE BEST
APPROACH.
APPROACH.
APPROACH. >> SO WHAT IS A BETTER
SOLUTION?
SOLUTION?
SOLUTION? >> I DISCOVERED THAT IT COMES
DOWN TO GOOD DESIGN.
THAT COMES FIRST AND I ACTUALLY
START WITH THE NON-EDIBLE FOCAL
POINTS.
POINTS.
POINTS. >> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
>> HARD SCAPE IS EVERYTHING
THAT IS NOT THE PLANTS.
THINK OF THINGS LIKE PATIOS AND
PATHWAYS.
PATHWAYS.
PATHWAYS. THINGS THAT DRAW FUNCTION TO A
SPACE.
SPACE.
SPACE. THEY ACTUALLY ALLOW US TO CREATE
A SENSE OF ORDER.
WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS HOUSE
WHEN WE FIRST MOVED IN.
THIS WAS THE REALTORS PICTURE.
SOMEWHERE BEHIND ALL THAT MUCH
OF PLANTS IS A HOUSE.
>> THIS LOOKS LIKE MY FRONT
YARD.
YARD.
YARD. SO
YARD. SO HELP ME OUT.
>> THE PROBLEM IS YOU CANNOT
EVEN SEE WHERE THE FRONT DOOR
IS LET ALONE GET TO IT.
IT HAS BEEN FILLED WITH A LOT
OF PLANTS MOST OF WHICH ARE
DEER RESISTANT.
DEER RESISTANT. HERE IS THE AFTER.
THIS IS WHAT I DID WITH IT.
NOW WE HAVE A SENSE THAT
SOMEBODY ACTUALLY THOUGHT ABOUT
THIS.
THIS.
THIS. WE
THIS. WE CAN SEE A PATHWAY AND A
PATIO.
PATIO.
PATIO. THERE ARE STILL DEER RESISTANT
PLANTS BUT THEY ARE COMBINED
MORE EFFECTIVELY.
MORE EFFECTIVELY. AND THERE ARE REALLY LOVELY
FOCAL POINTS.
FOCAL POINTS. THAT IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT
THAT WE DON'T USE SPECIMEN
TREES AS FOCAL POINTS.
YOU KNOW IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL.
>> SELECTING PLANTS.
THERE ARE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF
DEER RESISTANT'S. I'M NOT
REALLY SURE THAT I KNOW WHAT
THEY MEAN.
THEY MEAN. WILL YOU KIND OF TAKE US
THROUGH THAT?
THROUGH THAT? >> IT IS REALLY HARD BECAUSE
THE TAX TELL YOU IF THEY ARE
DEER RESISTANT OR NOT.
THERE ARE FOUR DIFFERENT
LEVELS.
LEVELS.
LEVELS. I
LEVELS. I THINK THE MOST HELPFUL THING
WE CAN DO IS DIRECT PEOPLE TO
THE LIST WHERE YOU CAN TYPE IN
THE COMMON OR BOTANICAL NAME OF
THE PLANT AND IN THE SEARCH BOX
YOU CAN TYPE IT IN AND IT WILL
TELL YOU IT'S RESISTANCE LEVEL.
A IS REALLY DAMAGED AT ALL AND
D IS FORGET ABOUT IT.
THINK ABOUT IT AS DEER CAVIAR.
>> THEN YOU SAY CREATE A
FOLIAGE FRAMEWORK.
FOLIAGE FRAMEWORK. >> THIS IS DAPHNE.
IT IS GORGEOUS.
IT IS A GOOD ONE TO CHAT ABOUT
RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING.
IT HAS FLOWERS THAT ARE
BEAUTIFULLY FRAGRANT BUT THIS
BELIEF ITSELF IS PRETTY.
SHOULD THE DEER DECIDE THIS IS
THE YEAR THEY ARE GOING TO COME
IN THE BULLET WHICH THEY ARE
NOT SUPPOSED TO DO WE STILL
HAVE THESE BEAUTIFUL LEAVES.
>> THERE IS SOMETHING SIMILAR
HERE.
HERE.
HERE. >>
HERE. >> VERY FEW FLOWERS ARE ON THE
TABLE RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT
WITH DEER BECAUSE THEY LOVE TO
EAT FLOWERBEDS.
EAT FLOWERBEDS. IF WE HAVE THINGS WITH THIS
FOLIAGE FRAMEWORK WE WILL BE
ABLE TO DISGUISE SOME OF THAT
DAMAGE THAT MIGHT OCCUR.
>> THAT IS IMPORTANT.
YOU ALSO SAY THAT WE NEED TO
VARY THE TEXTURES AND HEIGHTS.
WHY DOES THAT HELP?
>> IT IS DISGUISE.
>> YOU ARE TAKING A MORE
VULNERABLE ONES AND MAKING THEM
HARDER TO GET TO?
>> EVERYTHING HERE WILL BE
LEVEL A BUT JUST BECAUSE I HAVE
SAID THAT THE DAY WILL COME
THROUGH AND DECIDE THAT THEY
QUITE FANCY THIS.
IF WE HAVE A MIXTURE OF
DIFFERENT HEIGHTS AND DIFFERENT
TYPES OF LEAVES AND THEY DO A
LITTLE NIBBLING HERE AND THERE
OVERALL WE STILL HAVE A
BEAUTIFUL DESIGN.
BEAUTIFUL DESIGN. >> HERE ARE DIFFERENT TEXTURES
AND HEIGHTS.
AND HEIGHTS. PART OF WHAT YOU ARE
ENCOURAGING US TO DO IS TO GET
THE DEER RESISTANT PLANTS AND
THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING
OUT THERE BUT MAINTAIN A
BEAUTIFUL DESIGN.
BEAUTIFUL DESIGN. >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. THERE IS NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T
HAVE A GARDEN THAT IS JUST AS
BEAUTIFUL AS ONE THAT IS NOT
CHALLENGED BY DEAR.
>> IF WE ARE COMBINING THESE
DEER RESISTANT PLANTS YOU HAVE
THINGS LIKE THIS WITH BEAUTIFUL
COLORS SOME OF FLOWERS AND SOME
NOT.
NOT.
NOT. >>
NOT. >> IT'S GREAT TO KNOW WHERE TO
START.
START.
START. >>
START. >> SO WHEN YOU GO OUT AND ONCE
YOU DESIGNED AN IDEA OF WHAT
YOU WANT TO DO AND YOU CHECK TO
SEE HOW DEER RESISTANT THEY ARE
TALK TO ME ABOUT COMBINING THEM
IN A WAY THAT WORKS.
>> THE WAY THAT I DO IT IS IN
THREE STEPS.
THREE STEPS. THIS WORKS FOR CONTAINER
GARDENS AND SMALL PATIOS OR BIG
ACREAGE LIKE I HAVE.
THE FIRST THING I DO IS LOOK
FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. IT HAS
BEAUTIFUL MULTICOLORED LEAVES
AND IT HAS YELLOW AND BLUE WITH
A LITTLE BIT A BURGUNDY.
SO I LOOK FOR THAT AS A
STARTING POINT AND THEN THE
NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO HIGHLIGHT
ONE OF THOSE COLORS PERHAPS
WITH THIS BLUE STAR JUNIPER
WHICH IS BRINGING OUT THE SAME
SHADE.
SHADE.
SHADE. THAT IS NICE BUT AT THIS POINT
I AM READY FOR THE LIMELIGHT
AND TO INTRODUCE SOMETHING
UNEXPECTED.
UNEXPECTED. PERHAPS THIS BEAUTIFUL SILVER
ONE.
ONE.
ONE. THIS
ONE. THIS HAS BIG AND BOLD LEAVES.
ALL OF THOSE PLANTS WOULD BE
BEAUTIFUL IN A CONTAINER OR A
LANDSCAPE. YOU CAN EVEN ADD IN
SOME LITTLE DAFFODILS.
>> THEN YOU PICK UP THE YELLOW
AND YOU HAVE A THING HERE.
>> SO THAT WOULD WORK FOR SON.
SHOULD 51 FOR THE SHADE?
>> YES.
>> YES.
>> YES. >> THAT WERE NEXT TO YOU IS
CALLED RAINBOW.
CALLED RAINBOW. LOOK AT ALL OF THE COLORS ON
THE.
THE.
THE. WE
THE. WE WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ONE OF
THOSE COLORS.
THOSE COLORS. SHOULD WE PUT THAT AT THE FRONT?
HERE WE GO THEN WE CAN ACTUALLY
MIX THIS UP WITH NATIVE PLANTS.
THIS IS ONE OF THE OREGON
GRAPES.
GRAPES.
GRAPES. LOOK AT THE WAY IT PULLS OUT
THOSE BURGUNDY COLORS.
NOW WE ARE READY FOR SOMETHING
DIFFERENT AGAIN.
DIFFERENT AGAIN. THERE ARE SO MANY GORGEOUS ONES.
THIS ONE HAS ALL SORTS OF THE
SHADES IN THE CREAM AND PINK.
IF YOU WANT TO DEVELOP IT YOU
ABSOLUTELY CAN'T.
ABSOLUTELY CAN'T. >> THESE ONES ARE REALLY DEER
RESISTANT.
RESISTANT. >> I WOULD THINK THAT THAT'S
ONE THAT THE DEER WOULD LOVE.
SO YOU WROTE THIS BOOK AND THEN
I REALIZED I AM NOT THE ONLY
ONE.
ONE.
ONE. A
ONE. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THIS ISSUE.
MY PARENTS IN COLORADO HAD
WIREMESH OVER ALL OF THEIR
PLANTS.
PLANTS.
PLANTS. >> A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THIS
PROBLEM AND YOUR BOOK AS A
GUIDE TO WALK US ALL THE WAY
THROUGH IT.
THROUGH IT. ONCE WE HAVE SPENT THE MONEY ON
PLANTS AND WE PUT THEM OUT INTO
OTHER SPACES.
OTHER SPACES. WE DO NOT HAVE TO REDO IT OR
PANIC IN THE MIDDLE OF SPRING
IN PARTICULAR.
IN PARTICULAR. IT IS JUST A STORY OF 13
TENACIOUS GARDENERS INCLUDING
MYSELF.
MYSELF.
MYSELF. IT TELLS THE DESIGN CRITERIA
WHAT THEY REALLY WANT FROM THE
GARDEN.
GARDEN.
GARDEN. I
GARDEN. I FEEL THAT IT ENABLES US TO
CREATE THE GARDENS THAT WE
REALLY WANT.
REALLY WANT. >> AND WE CAN STILL ENJOY THE
DEER COMING THROUGH.
>> I ALWAYS HAVE SOME
APPELLANTS ON HAND.
THIS ONE IS DEER OUT.
IT'S A PEPPERMINT BASED SPRAY .
IT IS NON-TOXIC.
ANOTHER ONE WHICH THIS ONE IS
LIQUID FENCE.
LIQUID FENCE. IT ALSO PROTECTS AGAINST
RABBITS FOR
RABBITS FOR >> WE HAVE A BUMPER CROP OF
THOSE.
THOSE.
THOSE. >>
THOSE. >> THIS THIRD ONE IS A LITTLE
BIT DIFFERENT.
BIT DIFFERENT. THIS ONE IS A LIGHT MEAL BASE.
IF YOU HAVE DOGS BE CAREFUL OF
THIS.
THIS.
THIS. MY
THIS. MY LAST TWO GOLDEN RETRIEVERS
THOUGHT THIS WAS CAVIAR.
MY CURRENT GOLDEN RETRIEVER IS
CLUELESS.
CLUELESS.
CLUELESS. SHE HAS NOT FIGURED IT OUT.
I HAVE A SELECTION OF THESE ON
HAND TO USE.
>> THAT IS A GREAT IDEA.
ESPECIALLY WITH THE RABBITS.
THEY ARE SUCH AN ISSUE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
KAREN SPEAKS