-- BLACK COMMUNITY IN MIAMI.
IN RECENT WEEKS, CITY AND
COUNTY POLICE HAVE STEPPED UP
THEIR EFFORTS TO STOP GUN
VIOLENCE.
IN DOING SO, ARE THEY LOSING
THE COMMUNITY?
AND WILL A VIDEO SHOWING AN
OFFICER KICKING A MAN IN THE
HEAD HAVE ITS OWN IMPACT ON
THAT EFFORT?
JOINING ME NOW IS NADEGE GREEN.
NADEGE, THANK YOU FOR COMING.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
LET ME CONGRATULATE YOU, IT
WAS ANNOUNCED YOU ARE THE
WINNER OF THE RUTH SHACK AWARD
WHICH WAS GIVEN BY THE MIAMI
FOUNDATION.
THIS WAS FOR YOUR WORK IN THE
COMMUNITY, YOU HAVE DONE
AMAZING WORK.
I AM ALWAYS HONORED TO HAVE YOU
ON.
THANK YOU JIM. LET'S TALK
ABOUT LIBERTY SQUARE, WHAT WE
HAVE SEEN IS, THIS INCREASED
HEAVY POLICE PRESENCE TO TRY TO
COMBAT THE VIOLENCE, BUT THAT
ALSO HAS ITS OWN CONSEQUENCES.
I KNOW SPECIFICALLY RESPONSE
TO THE MOST RECENT SHOOTINGS OF
FOUR-YEAR-OLD WAS KILLED, 17-
YEAR-OLD, EIGHT-YEAR-OLD KILLED
BACK TO BACK.
NOW WE ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO
GUN VIOLENCE.
I THINK IF WE -- HAVEN'T DONE
THIS BEFORE.
ESPECIALLY AFTER PARKLAND, WE
ARE TAKING SERIOUSLY WHAT YOUNG
PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE
ISSUE.
THE KID THAT MIAMI NORTHWESTERN
HAVE JUST WALKED OUT, THERE
NEEDED TO BE SOME SORT OF
PUBLIC SHOWING.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS
RESPONDING TO THE COMMUNITY.
THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT SAID WE
NEED MORE POLICE OFFICERS HERE.
ANYTIME YOU HAVE SUCH A HEAVY
POLICE PRESENCE IN THE
COMMUNITY, YOU ALSO RISK PEOPLE
FEELING LIKE THEY ARE IN A
CRIMINALIZE OR MILITARIZE
SITUATION.
AND THERE LIKE AN
OCCUPATION?
RIGHT, YOU HAVE THE BIG BAND
OUT THERE, PEOPLE ARE BEING
STOPPED FOR MINOR INFRACTIONS.
YOU HAVE THIS TUG-OF-WAR, HOW
DO YOU RESPOND?
THE COMMUNITY WANTS US HERE BUT
IS -- THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE
LONG TERM, RIGHT?
WE HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE.
AFTERPLAY #-PROFILE SHOOTINGS
COME AFTER POLICE SATURATED
COMMUNITY, IT IS A SHORT-TERM
EFFORT.
AND NEVER LOST LONG-TERM.
THE FEAR TO ME, SOMETHING
LIKE THIS, YOU START COMING
ORIENTED TOWARDS STATISTICS.
POLICE WANT TO SHOW THAT THEY
-- THEIR TIME IN AN AREA IS
PRODUCING RESULTS.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE REPORTED
ON, DOWN IN -- A WHILE BACK,
PLEASE TRY TO COMBAT VIOLENCE
THERE, MAKING A LOT OF ARRESTS.
THEY WERE STOPPING AND LOOKING
FOR KIDS WHO MIGHT HAVE GUNS ON
THEM FOR INSTANCE OR PEOPLE
WITHOUT -- OUTSTANDING
WARRANTS, YOU COULD SEE POLICE
STOPPING 10 KIDS, ALL SITTING
ON THE CURB THEY WILL PAT THEM
DOWN, ASK THEM QUESTIONS, WHAT
WERE THEY DOING.
ASKED FOR THEIR IDS.
MAYBE THEY WOULD CATCH ONE OR
TWO OF THEM WITH MARIJUANA, AND
THEN THEY GET ARRESTED FOR THE
MARIJUANA POSSESSION.
YOU END UP AS YOU ARE TALKING
ABOUT, HAVING MINOR INFRACTIONS,
BECOMING ENFORCED SO HEAVILY,
IF YOU HAVE THAT POLICE
PRESENCE IN ANY COMMUNITY, BUT
NOW YOU HAVE -- IT IS
INTERESTING BECAUSE YOU HAVE
SOME PARENTS, AND LIBERTY
SQUARE SPECIFICALLY WHO WERE
HAPPY THIS IS HAPPENING BECAUSE
FOR THE FIRST TIME, OUR KIDS
CAN PLAY OUTSIDE SAFELY.
THEN ALSO BEGS THE QUESTION,
SHOULD YOU NEED ARMED POLICE
OFFICERS IN ORDER FOR CHILDREN
TO PLAY OUTSIDE SAFELY?
YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THE
UNDERLYING ISSUE.
THIS IS A RESPONSE BUT IT
CANNOT BE THE ONLY RESPONSE AND
IT CANNOT BE LONG-TERM.
TALK TO ME ABOUT THOSE
UNDERLYING ISSUES.
THE UNDERLYING ISSUES OF
POVERTY, ACCESS TO JOBS, ALL OF
THOSE SOCIAL ILLS THAT WE KNOW
HELP CONTRIBUTE TO SOME OF THE
THINGS THAT WE SEE IN A
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY ARE NOT UNKNOWN, THEY ARE
HARDER TO FIX. PART OF IT IS
BILLING OUR -- BUILDING A
RELATIONSHIP, TRUST WITH THE
COMMUNITY.
THAT IS THE KEY TO COMMUNITY
STYLE POLICING.
YOU CAN TAKE THE APPROACH THAT
WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, BUT
WHAT WOULD YOU DO, YOU WOULD
ENFORCE INFRACTIONS ON EVERY
SMALL THINGS TO PREVENT THE
LARGER.
THERE ARE PROS AND CONS TO
BOTH, BUT GENERALLY, THE BROKEN
WINDOW APPROACH CAN HAVE A
ROUGH SIDE EFFECT.
WHAT REALLY TENDS TO WORK IS,
COMMUNITY POLICING, POLICE
OFFICERS IN THE COMMUNITY, NOT
STANDING POSE LIKE A GARDEN WALL
, BUT RATHER INTEGRATING WITH
THE COMMUNITY.
DEVELOPING THAT TRUST, SO YOU
CAN HAVE ALL OF THIS YOU HAVE
DONE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF
WEEKS.
THE ATTORNEY WAS OUT THERE,
MARCO RUBIO MADE AN APPEARANCE,
YOU CAN HAVE ALL OF THESE PEOPLE
TRYING TO SAY THAT, BUT THEN
YOU HAVE AN INCIDENT THAT ALSO
OCCURRED THIS WEEK, MIAMI
POLICE OFFICER KICKS THE MAN IN
THE HEAD.
LET'S LOOK AT THIS VIDEO SO
EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT.
YOU SEE THIS GENTLEMAN, HE IS
ON THE GROUND, BEING ARRESTED,
POLICE HAVE THEM IN CONTROL.
THEY HAVE HIM IN CUSTODY, THE
OFFICER IS HANDLING IT ALONG
COMES THIS GUY, HE IS JUST
GOING TO KICK HIM IN THE HEAD.
THAT VIDEO UNDERMINES ALL OF
THE EFFORTS OF THE POLICE --
THAT THE POLICE DO.
GIVE ME YOUR PERSPECTIVE.
WHEN THEY ARE DOING THIS IN
THE COMMUNITY, WHEN YOU HAVE
POLICE OFFICERS IN THE CITY OF
MIAMI WHO HAVE SPENT TIME WITH
THEM, AND THEY ARE REALLY IN
THE COMMUNITY, THEY ARE NOT
LIKE YOUR TYPICAL OFFICER.
THEY'RE NOT HERE TO LOCK YOU
UP, THEY ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT
US.
WHEN YOU SEE THAT HAPPEN, YOU
GET THE COMMUNITY THINKING THAT
THIS IS WHY WE DON'T LIKE THE
POLICE.
THIS IDEA THAT, BRUTALITY, THIS
IS REAL.
THIS IS SOMETHING THE COMMUNITY
THINGS ALL THE TIME.
YOU DON'T ALWAYS SEE A VIDEO OF
IT.
YESTERDAY, I SPENT TIME WITH
DAVID, HE IS THE GENTLEMAN WHO
WAS KICKED IN THE HEAD.
I SPENT TIME WITH HIS SISTERS.
THEY SPENT TIME WITH THE
COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD
MEETING IN COMMUNITIES --
LIBERTY SQUARE.
THE BIG SISTER TALKED ABOUT THE
IMPACT THAT HAD ON HER ENTIRE
FAMILY.
SHE WAS STILL TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON.
SHE WAS LIKE, MY MOM HAS A
PACEMAKER.
SHE RECENTLY GOT HOME FROM THE
HOSPITAL, DO YOU UNDERSTAND
WHAT THIS COULD DO TO HER?
WATCHING YOUR SON BE BRUTALIZED
ON TV.
SHE TALKS ABOUT HER OWN
DAUGHTER WHO IS NOW 13 YEARS
OLD, WHO HERSELF, HAVE HAD
NEGATIVE INTERACTIONS WITH THE
POLICE.
SHE TALKED WHERE THE POLICE
STOPPED HER, AT GUNPOINT AND
HAD HER EXIT HER CAR.
THERE WAS NOTHING IN HER CAR.
THERE WAS NO APOLOGY AFTER, NO
RESTORING THE NEGATIVE MOMENT.
BUT THAT WAS HER DAUGHTER.
SHE WAS LIKE, MY DAUGHTER JUST
STARTED LIKING THE POLICE, WE
WERE JUST WORKING ON, SHE
DOESN'T WANT HER DAUGHTER TO
FEEL THAT ALL POLICE ARE BAD.
SHE SAID HOW DO I GO HOME AND
EXPLAIN THIS TO HER NOW?
THAT THIS HAPPENED TO HER
UNCLE. I WATCH A VIDEO, MY
IMMEDIATE THOUGHT IS, WHY
WASN'T THAT OFFICER ARRESTED ON
THE SPOT?
ANYONE ELSE IF THEY DID
SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IN FRONT
OF A POLICE OFFICER, ON VIDEO,
THEY WOULD BE IN JAIL.
THEY WOULD HAVE CRIMINAL
CHARGES AGAINST THEM AND MAYBE
THEY GET BOND AND ARE RELEASED,
BUT HE IS SUSPENDED WITH PAY
FOR WHAT WE ALL KNOW AND THAT
HAPPENING, AND INVESTIGATION
THAT WILL DRAG OUT FOR MONTHS,
HE WILL INVOKE MANY RIGHTS
GRANTED TO HIM UNDER THE POLICE
UNION.
I'M NOT AGAINST THAT, BUT, THEY
WILL DRAG IT OUT, PUT FAVOR THE
POLICE OFFICER.
AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THIS
CASE IS AS CLEAR-CUT AS IT
GETS.
YOU HAVE THE VIDEO.
HE TAKES A RUNNING SHOT AT THE
GUY.
HE USES HIS HEAD LIKE A SOCCER
BALL.
HE IS LUCKY HE DIDN'T KILL THE
GUY.
THAT IS WHAT THE FAMILY WAS
SAYING YESTERDAY WHEN I WAS
WITH HIS SISTERS.
THEY DID NOT KNOW WHERE HE WAS
AS OF 7 PM AND THIS HAPPENED
AROUND 9 AM.
AROUND 7 PM, THEY DID NOT KNOW
WHERE HE WAS.
IS HE OKAY, EVENTUALLY THE
POLICE DID RESPOND TO THEM,
THEY WERE THERE AT THE MEETING
AND THEY SAID HE IS FINE.
HE ACTUALLY DID NOT SUSTAIN ANY
MAJOR INJURIES.
THEY WERE ABLE TO RELEASE HIM.
FROM THE HOSPITAL, HE WAS BEING
PROCESSED THROUGH TO THE JAIL
SYSTEM.
THAT COULD'VE BEEN A LOT WORSE.
AGAIN, THE REASON WE ARE
SHOWING THAT VIDEO AND TALKING
ABOUT THIS IS, WHATEVER STEP
THEY TAKE FORWARD, YOU END UP
LOSING THREE STEPS BACK.
IT IS REALLY GOING TO BE A KEY
MOMENT, FRANCIS BARS IN THE
CITY OF MIAMI, A NEW POLICE
CHIEF, A LONGTIME STATE
ATTORNEY, BUT IT IS HOW FRANCIS
SUAREZ AND HOW THE CHIEF
HANDLED THE INCIDENT, IT WILL
GO A LONG WAYS DEFINING THEIR
FUTURE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK HOW THEY HAVE
HANDLED IT SO FAR, THERE HAS
BEEN A LOT OF POSITIVE REACTION
IN THE COMMUNITY.
PEOPLE WERE SHOCKED THAT
STRAIGHT OUT THE GATE, THE
DEPARTMENT SAID, THIS IS WRONG.
THERE WAS NOT, SOMETIMES THERE
IS AN INVESTIGATION ONGOING AND
THEN YOU WILL GET A STATEMENT A
DAY LATER OR A FEW DAYS LATER.
WITHIN HOURS, WE GOT A
STATEMENT FROM THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT SAYING, THIS IS
AGAINST OUR POLICY, WE DO NOT
STAND FOR THIS AND AT THIS
MEETING YESTERDAY, WHERE THE
SISTERS WERE, THE POLICE CHIEF
AND A MAJOR APOLOGIZE TO THEM.
THAT IS A GOOD FIRST STEP.
YOU KNOW THE NEXT STEP IS?
ALL OF THE OTHER OFFICERS THERE
THAT DID NOT IMMEDIATELY REPORT
IT, THEY NEED TO BE DEALT WITH.
YOU NEED TO BREAK DOWN THAT
WALL OF SILENCE AS WELL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING