dennis campbell is with us today he is editor in chief of u_k_ progressive
magazine he also hosts worldview with dennis campbell on you to go to youtube
dot com slash world view show dennis last week we talked about
the um... horrible murder
of drummer rereading
in the time that's elapsed since then there have been number one
a number of subsequent arrests but number two this kind of a broader
discussion about this kind of homegrown domestic terrorism discussion so let's
start
first just with the arrests in kind of the fact of what's taken place
well as you said that a number of the rest of not less details been released
about them all of the interviews we did all of the world news show
was with uh... is a master's his political rhetoric provide tvd salute
explain to us
what happens when the cobra committee
uh... is formed by both prime minister camera that pretty much
shuts down the release of all information you comes out pretty much
now interest drives and so you have a lot of people scurrying for information
but there's just fell off a lot of information coming out
all of you know we had a number of arrests here
uh... but no details as to what those arrests in terrible just like they were
persons of interest
hey we obviously had the properties that belonged to the
the uh... the two suspects uh... looked at me for
you know have the primary visa water is at the scene finally
of the uh... the murder itself but are not much news coming out that that is of
any substance at
and the way the press have as it is really not a lot of speculation on it at
the same
so let's get into kind of the implications here you know here in the
u_s_ we had a period where
for example new york republican congressman peter king was just
absolutely obsessed with holding hearing after hearing on
the american moslem problem and for example i think and i remember for the
twenty eleven or twenty twelve they were barely any incidents of terror involving
american muslims but many incidents of terror
involving up bob basically you know whites domestic terrorism as we've
pointed out on the show many times i'm curious
what is the reaction been in the u_k_ to this incident and kind of one of the
repercussions been in terms of
profiling are focusing on specific groups
well you know we have had a number of incidents involving the white
supremacist group that you do you know
bombay little ones and by the way that face book page that we were referring
people to ask the jury that's being he deals from finished
uh... they they try to find that the the june is seeing what they do but really
they've been uh... attacking mosques there for a small ponds they've uh...
but active people of clearly muslim origin
and and it's really been in been very public but even that's beginning to
taper off slightly as we get towards the end of the week
so then give us a sense of
the perception of
muslims
as terrorists in the u_k_
verses that perception in the united states is it's stronger in the united
kingdom are there factual differences in the proportion of these types of
incidents that muslims actually are involved in their verses in the u_s_
well we we we have our own issues obviously but i'll go through the muslim
community use
much larger here in the u_k_ and people often referred to london has long down a
stand
all because of the bariloche pakistani population granddaughter
uh... asian middle eastern persian populations of or ethnic uh... varieties
what happens is that yes the the the the cribs tend to clustered together
but what we're seeing is is much less of the pop isolation and you mentioned
peter kenyon two years ago
it was twenty eleven because they'd just come into power in january that year
they decided they were going to hold basically a witch hunting i'm sure
your audience or member of minnesota's keith ellison the only muslim member of
the united states congress of very bravely in very emotionally standing
before that committee
you know and saying look who will live with the same as you
and uh... you know fred are frankly
uh... devoted to to look at muslim extremists
you'd have to put them in the same category as the k_k_k_
because it's such a small percentage of the population
what i worry about
is the homegrown terrorists why worry about are the people that look like you
and me david and uh... you know i lose that
all being radicalized on the internet the disenfranchised the used to spend a
lot of time you know playing video games for
what just completely removed from society
that's the threat that everybody's afraid i wasn't even in the united
states as well as here
while we have a lot of uh... youth unemployment in this country
and uh... you know as you look at what goes on across europe the hardest hit
groups
economically with austerity all those uh... you'd be in the u categoric so it
was very easy to cast these people feeling
all very much dot on themselves very low self esteem
for it very charismatic leader or somebody on the internet playing that
role
to then indoctrinate them dan grogan much like you saw the summit's right i
mean it seems like in the same way that when we talk about the
mass shootings in the u_s_ and there's discussion over what what really deep
down does cause people to think of doing a mass shooting is the kind of outlet
for whatever it is that they're feeling
and you kind of getting a lot of those things right at let lack of satisfaction
with life
in whatever form that kind of man effects of manifest itself in
individuals
is there
give us a sense of you here in the u_s_ it there is but there's a wide
difference he talked to some people may kind of intellectually understand what
causes terror and what causes mat sheens
and then there's others who you ask about it and they just make all sorts of
racist in xenophobic comments
do you have
uh... share of both in the u_k_ what's the split what's the sentiment
you do have a you just don't hear that much from them because they don't get
that much media attention
uh... you know we do have a couple of outlets but nothing like what you see on
fox and
so many other places were in almost incident some aspects seems to be stoked
it needs to know that if there's a way to find
uh... you know uh... it disenfranchised group of people that can only taking
advantage of yes though global do whatever they can to move forward on
that front
when you have here you have political media attention though of those groups
like a present yes altogether that it was that
knows a lot of discussion going on about you know the roll call
of various elements of the house integrate them into society
i think i have to go back to a future to what i said earlier which is that is
launching an economic issue right now
i mean you know how he waits for example where i'm based you you have enforce
generation families that used to be in coal-mining would have been on benefits
for so long on in this becomes a very demoralizing and dehumanizing situations
if you can't find a job if you can't find your way
onto the ladder goldman's novel just yesterday i read
about uh... you know almost fifty percent of the u_s_ thousand poverty
they're technically or not
on the poverty scare and if you look at countries like what we've seen in greece
with fifty one percent
people under the age of twenty one of our without job uh... you know you're
seeing this going across the entire european union
economic crisis economic disparity has been
devastating to those trying to get on the ladder property values may be going
up and uh... the stock market may be a record levels but underlying all that
this poll of this and i think this is what leads to some of the domestic
terrorism
issues that we're talking about here
all right we've been speaking the dennis campbell editor in chief of u_k_
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will talk more about that next week dennis thanks as always for being here
my pleasure