- Can you see that I was damaged?
Are you able to see my forehead?
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The good news is that the coffee
and the cookie that I just drank,
wait a minute.
The cookie that I just ate and the coffee
that I just drank was super good.
Hey guys, what's going on?
It's Alex from Fitment Industries,
and I may look, is disheveled the right word?
I may look a little rough around the edges
and that's because I got smoked in the face
like three hours ago and nearly died.
We'll put up a picture, right now.
It was a terrible time, there's blood everywhere.
I got it all washed off, but don't worry!
We're good!
And I have this little cut thingy
that's on my forehead now, and we're just going
to pretend like it doesn't exist,
so don't judge me for looking like I just
got ran over by a train, I got run over by a 130 pound,
red head girl in soccer and it was just not a good time.
Anyway!
We're getting into it.
We're talking about what sort
of suspension is right for you.
When we talk about what sort of suspension is right for you,
we've done other videos like this in the past
where we've talked about different ways to lower your car,
we've talked about why air suspension is good,
why coilovers are good.
We've talked about different things about coilovers
and everything in between.
But, a lot of people have consistently asked us
why should I buy one thing over another
or why should I buy air, or why should I buy coilovers,
and the answer is really there's not one.
So what we decided to do is make this video
to talk about different kind of things to think about
but at the same time, what are the right ways
or what are the right things that you can do
to lower your car which makes sense
for what you plan on using your car for.
So I'm Alex from Fitment Industries.
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don't forget to check out fitmentindustries.com.
I might have a concussion so I might be repeating myself.
Don't judge me, I'm not gonna say "At the end of the day."
So a lot of times when we go back down to the basics,
especially inside of the car community,
nobody like to tell other people that they just
lowered their car with springs.
Everybody wants to talk about either having coils
or air and there's nothing in between.
Well, to be honest, there are a lot of cars
that actually just sit on lowering springs,
and there's a pretty good reason.
A lot of people, especially in older vehicles,
don't have any other option than getting
a different spring for their vehicle.
So lowering springs are pretty much meant
for two types of people.
Those that are just getting into lowering their car
and the second group are likely the people
that actually just got lowering springs
because there's nothing else available for the car.
For long time there really wasn't a whole lot
of options for Datsuns, for instance, in terms
of having different sort of suspension systems.
All you really had were lowering springs
with aftermarket struts.
And you can do quite a lot of damage in terms
of lowering your vehicle, I mean damaging in a good way,
but you can do a lot of good stuff
when it comes down to lowering your car
just with springs and some aftermarket struts.
In many cases people actually prefer to do that.
Back in the day, when I say back in the day
I mean 10, 15, years ago, versus doing coilovers
because coilovers used to be super, super, expensive.
Lowering springs are a great alternative
for the people that just want to get something
that's, well, pretty simple to install,
and not going to be a massive pain in the (beep).
What you have to remember is that lowering springs are
a little bit more affordable than
your coilover alternatives.
Some of the greatest lowering springs can be cheaper
than even some of your cheapest eBay
sort of coilovers, and they do that just
because of how easy it is to essentially produce.
Now if you want to get brands that you know
and love because R&D is super important,
companies like Eibach have done lowering springs since
the dawn of time so they're always a good brand
to get into and there's a bunch of other brands
that you can consider as well.
So the negatives with lowering springs though,
is you get no versatility,
which we've talked about in the past.
In terms of really how good it is over
the grand scheme of things, it's not as good
as coilovers and it's not as good as air,
especially when you have your air dialed in.
But some of the good things that we've
already talked about besides the fact that it's versatile
and the fact that lowering springs are more affordable
than a lot of the others too that we're going to talk about.
Lowering springs just generally seem
to be a little bit more of a dated aftermarket
component to a lot of peoples cars these days.
But don't be fooled and don't feel bad if you're
looking to get lowering springs because a lot
of people do run lowering springs
because there aren't many alternative options.
Especially when you go into the domestic scene,
it seems like coilovers are still one of the things
that a lot of these domestic car companies
still just really can't get right.
The next up would obviously be the coilover.
Now the coilover is something that really
started out as a functional tool for your car
and it turned into an aesthetic thing.
A lot of people just started getting coilovers
because they wanted their car to look good.
They really didn't care about the actual
performance of it and we've talked about it
in the past, how a lot of people over-hype their
coilovers because of the fact that they don't actually
use them for the full intended purpose
of what a coilover is supposed to be meant for.
They really just use it to dump the (beep)
out of it, be done with it,
and post their picture on Instagram.
There's nothing wrong with that, we really don't care.
But really when you're going into spending
a lot of money on coilovers you lose a lot
of the versatility that it's actually supposed
to provide you when you're installing coilovers.
Coilovers are meant for people that actually want
to dial in their suspension.
They want to make sure that it feels appropriate
to what they're doing every single day.
Now coilovers aren't just exclusively
meant to be used at the track.
You can dial in a coilover for street use as well,
as long as you drive it and you want something that's
gonna feel the way that you want it to feel.
But it does take time.
One of the negatives with coilovers is that they're
generally a little bit more expensive,
especially when you get into the name brand of things.
Now, expensive is a relative term,
but spending a thousand bucks or spending $4000
or spending $9000 on some Motons
or something like that is still at the end
of the day (beep), I said it.
But still, nevertheless, a pretty expensive
purchase for something that you're never gonna see
and when it comes down to comparing it
to some of the cheaper alternatives,
you're actually not gonna notice a massive difference
if your only using the vehicle on the road.
A lot of people will give you hell
for having a less than stellar brand to have as coilovers,
but a lot of people still run some
more affordable brands, and they don't seem
to have that many terrible stories to talk about.
So you can decide on what sort of coilovers you want,
whether you want the cheap ones or the expensive ones,
but for us it really comes down to what they're
supposed to provide which is essentially an upgraded
coil, a better shock absorber, something that's gonna
give you more customization to dial in your suspension
and your lower center of gravity, and it's just
gonna allow you to actually get a lot more out of your car
than what you would with a stock suspension system.
But there are a couple other cons with it too.
If you don't want to have to deal with consistently
adjusting it, and turning it, and understanding
what camber is, and understanding you have
your rebound and your compression, it's probably
not gonna be the thing for you
'cause there's really no point.
If you're buying a coilover and you never touch
the dial at the top, or never touch the dial
at the bottom, probably could go with something
different like some struts with some lowering springs
because it's gonna save yourself some money
and if you're never gonna touch it,
it doesn't really matter.
But if you're one of those people
that's turning into a suspension snob
and you want the fitment on point,
a lot of times coilovers are gonna give you that.
And coilovers give you a couple extra more
street cred points over air because dialing it in,
especially on a wide setup that has camber
is much more difficult than doing it on air.
Which leads us into the third and final point
in terms of what sort of suspension is right for you.
If you've got the money and you enjoy the versatility,
but you really do enjoy using your car
for all sorts of things, air suspension
really is the answer.
Because when you've driven on coilovers in the past
with multiple people in the car and you're slamming
your rear (beep) on the ground
because there's absolutely no space,
and everything is rubbing, and you're having
a terrible time, I did it, you did it, we all did it
when we were 17 and we didn't understand
what anything meant, but we did it anyway
and then we fought on Facebook like
we thought we knew what we were talking about.
It's just one of those things
where air suspension doesn't have that problem
because air suspension is essentially increased
pressure within bags to raise it up farther
and it essentially is a flick of a button,
a flick of the wrist, you know a little (clicking noise),
I'm not gonna do that 'cause that can probably
be deemed inappropriate by Youtube
and then we get de-monetized.
But what you really have to understand is the versatility
of air suspension outmatches both
lowering springs and coilovers.
And although they're way more expensive
than the other two that we talk about,
they are pretty darn cool.
It's one of those things where when you talk
to your father, or your grandfather
and they talk to you about how they
had it harder back in the day,
therefore their generation is better
than your generation and you're sitting there
and you're looking at them and you're wondering
if he's just getting senile or if you might have
to take him to a nursing home because he just
seems to pride himself on how things are more
difficult for them than it is for you.
That's kind of how air suspension is in the current scene
because a lot of people that don't like air suspension
don't like the fact that it's made it easier for people
to dial in fitment and to drive their vehicle
at the same time for whatever it is
that they're looking to do.
Now, it may look like I'm unimpressed
and not very excited but that's because the stitches
on top of my forehead will not allow me
to raise my eyebrows right now.
So I promise I'm excited, you just can't tell.
So it really comes down to what you want.
So when you're asking yourself what sort of suspension
is right for me, we kind of break it down into three things.
How are you gonna use it?
What's your budget?
And do you really think you're going to enjoy
what you're going to buy?
If you're using something as a stepping stone
into something else, you're probably not gonna enjoy
buying whatever your first component is gonna be.
A lot of people here end up buying lowering springs
as one of their first purchases and then ultimately
go to coilovers as the next step.
There's a lot of people that go from coilovers
to air suspension and then from air suspension
back to coilovers depending on their
experience with air suspension.
So it depends.
The three things that we talk about are entirely
up to you and when you answer those questions
the three products that you're gonna come up with,
there's gonna be probably either your coilovers,
lowering springs, or air suspension.
Because when you're answering that question truthfully
and for yourself, you're gonna figure out
what you actually want to buy.
Don't worry, it doesn't matter whether you get
lowering springs, or coilovers, or air suspension,
or you're one of those nerds that get the Airmatic
Lowering Links because you're one of the 12
that had air suspension in your car like I did,
we still love those kind of people too,
there's just not that many of them out there.
So tell us what you guys are running on your car.
If it comes down to lowering springs, coilovers,
or air suspension we want to know.
And if you're looking for suspension don't forget
to check out fitmentindustries.com for wheels,
tires, suspension, blah blah blah blah blah.
We also have 0% financing for up to 12 months,
blah blah blah blah blah.
There's more stuff, I just tired.
My head hurts.
I'm just gonna let you guys go.
But it's Alex from Fitment Industries.
Don't forget to subscribe.
I have a Cosmis tee on.
If we're still doing the promo, ends January 31st.
We sold out in a day, and we got a couple more,
it's been a hectic giveaway.
But we're gonna be doing a giveaway
with Cosmis Racing XT-206R's.
We'll be doing a ping-pong match, where I'm just gonna
slay Mario in this ping-pong match and then the winner
that we represent is gonna pick up a free set of wheels.
So it's actually pretty cool.
If you're interested in learning more about that stuff
check out fitmentindustries.com.
I'm Alex, we'll see you later.
Peace.
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