Model and actress Lily Rose Depp who ,of course, is the daughter of Johnny Depp
just ignited an internet firestorm after she responded to accusations that she was,
well, one of many people in this country that gets the privilege of nepotism
since she's connected to a famous actor that helps her to catapult her career.
But she didn't like that.
So, she responded to it in a in a fascinating way.
Okay, so what did she say?
She claims it's sexist to claim that this is nepotism.
People are going to have preconceived ideas about you or
how you got there, and I can definitely say that nothing is going
to get you the part except for being right for the part.
The internet cares a lot more about who your family is than the people
who are casting you in things.
And then in regard to her accusations of sexism ,tied to nepotism, she says,
maybe you get your foot in the door, but you still just have your foot in the door.
There's a lot of work that comes after that.
It's weird to me to reduce somebody to the idea that they're only there
because it's a generational thing, it just doesn't make any sense.
And then she says ,I just hear a lot more about women and
I don't think that it's a coincidence.
Okay.
>> I think she made that part up.
>> Yeah, look, there's nepotism all over the place.
I've seen men accused of nepotism, women accused of nepotism,
I also know that a lot of people love to weaponize identity to get a leg up in
arguments and I think that's what's happening here to keep it real.
But I just want to go back to her quote about ho having those connections
like a famous actor as a father gets your foot in the door, right?
But that's all it does, it just gets your foot in the door.
Except getting your foot in the door is the whole game.
That's the most important part of the game.
>> Yeah,100%.
>> Yeah.
>> So, look guys, it's not the whole game, she's right about that for sure.
There are a lot of actors' kids, celebrities',
kids that don't make it at all, They try to make it and they don't make it, right?
And so it's not a guaranteed ticket.
But at the same time, is it important to get an opportunity?
Are you kidding me?
It's not 100% of the equation, but it is a majority of the equation.
And by the way, that doesn't mean that it's like, you should never do it, okay?
Someone with famous parents should be afforded no opportunities in life, okay?
No, that's absurd.
In fact, there's a case of one of our own, right?
So, Ben Banquets, grandfather was Hermann Banquets and he wrote Citizen Kane,.
>> I thought you were gonna talk about Hass.
>> Okay, no, I could talk about him too.
Okay, but so
did Ben have a little bit of a leg up when he was applying to different jobs?
A tiny one, at Turner Classic movies, well, it is classic movies.
Did he have a slightly higher leg up?
Yeah, probably.
And you know who acknowledges that?
Ben does,okay?
And instead of saying that either Ben shouldn't be hired,
because he knows classic movies, he knows him really well, people love him.
He does a great job at that, right?
If he fell on his face and he didn't do a good job, he wouldn't have that job.
He wouldn't have made it past the audition let along getting the job, right?
But it's okay to acknowledge it and say yeah,
that probably helped a little bit and I was grateful for the opportunity,
which is exactly what Ben says, and then he made the best of the opportunity.
And then we go, okay, yeah, we're not going to ban you from Hollywood
just because your dad's Johnny Depp, but show a little bit of humility and
know how hard it is for others that didn't have that opportunity.
>> And by the way, I think people are smart enough to decide whether or
not you're actually talented in what you're pursuing.
Despite the leg up you get thanks to your family connections and all of that.
So for instance, I'm not really familiar with Lily Rose's work,
so I can't really judge whether or not she's earned it or
whatever, she's a model, right?
She's pretty hot, she looks pretty good, earned it I guess.
I don't know and I haven't seen her acting so I can't really judge on that.
But then there's nepotism that I think we could all judge in regard to Meghan McCain
on The View where she made a lot of ,honestly, ignorant arguments,
wasn't really well informed, and it was abundantly clear that she made her
way to Fox News, to The View, to all these different opportunities that she
had because her father was a senator, a United States senator, right?
That's how she became a big public figure.
Did she earn the roles that she had in media?
The public can decide on that, right?
And I think the public has decided on that.
>> Yeah.
>> But then there are other examples.
Okay, so let me give you examples of people who are famous actresses, actors,
who I didn't even realize until today had famous parents, and I think they're
talented themselves and and they've earned their place in Hollywood.
So, Jamie Lee Curtis, her parents are Janet Lee,
who's an actress and Tony Curtis an actor.
So I'm sure that gave her a leg up in Hollywood.
>> Keep it real, of course it did.
>> Yeah, but she's talented.
She's good at what she does.
>> No, but Anna you're bringing up something that I wanted to bring up
because when I read through the list of the people who got potential nepotism
opportunity because of it etc, they're talking about the new generation.
What are you guys talking about?
The older generation had it 1000 times more.
So Jamie Lee Curtis is one of dozens and dozens of examples here.
I'm gonna read them off real quick, Laura, Dern, these are all people who had very
powerful people in the Hollywood as either parents or really close relatives.
Laura Dern, George Clooney, Gwyneth Paltrow, Anjelica Houston, Liza Minnelli,
Emilio Estevez, Charlie Sheen, Angelina Jolie, Nora Jones, Michael Douglas,
Jane Fonda, Ben Stiller, Jamie Lee Curtis, Robert Downey Jr, Drew Barrymore,
Mia Farrow, Josh Brolin, Jeff Bridges, Beau Bridges, you go on and on and on.
From the old school guys, almost all their parents were movie stars already, right?
Or famous directors etc.
And and by the way, that also makes sense because back then, getting into Hollywood
was even harder because back then they didn't think nepotism was a bad thing.
They were like, well of course, who else would we hire?
We're gonna hire the son or daughter of the powerful person so
that we can get favors from the powerful person.
>> It's a dynasty.
>> These days, they have to work harder to get the opportunities.
So it's less of a problem than it was.
>> Really why, why do you say that?
Why do you think they have to work harder?
what evidence do you have?
>> No, I looked through the list, the list is the only evidence I have,
I'm not an expert on this.
But I looked through the list of the younger people get nepotism or
whatever, so Will Smith's kids, okay?
>> No, definitely.
What are you talking about?
No, I'm saying, sure, that's a big one.
It's what I'm saying.
And by the way, are they talented?
They might be very talented.
I don't know, I can't judge that, but did they have a leg up because they're
Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith's kids, of course, right?
But as you look through the list, there aren't a lot of superstars on the list.
Whereas the older generation,
at almost all the superstars already had famous parents etc.
That's why I'm saying the juxtaposition there.
And so look finally back to us, sometimes people will say it about
a couple of people here like Dave Koehler, okay?
>> What?
Okay, he's one of the cofounders, there gonna be no nepotism.
But anyway, they're like, Dave Koehler is a long friend of yours, and he is.
I've known Dave since I was eight years old.
>> I see. >> Okay, so it's not family, but
it's friendship.
The dude worked here for years without a salary.
>> No, guys.
>> You worked here for years without a salary, and then we'll talk about it.
>> He literally dropped everything to help Jenks start TYT from Jenks living room.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> But people still say it because they're looking for.
>> He took a massive risk.
>> Yeah. That's how cofounding work.
>> Yeah.
>> Anyways, and then Hassan, so my nephew, so he started here, and so
did he have an opportunity here that others didn't have?
I gotta be honest with you guys.
People weren't banging down our door to work for us and
Hass also started working here for free.
So it wasn't like we're turning down all the other free talent but
we're gonna take this kid because he's got connections.
>> I'm gonna take it a step further actually.
I think Jenk was so worried about the appearance of nepotism, that I actually
think that you went above and beyond to be unfair and harsh towards him.
>> So I don't agree with that but I hear you.
Okay, but Hassan would agree with that.
So what did Hassan do with that opportunity?
First of all, he worked in sales in the beginning,
sold more than any salesperson we had until that time.
>> It's true.
Okay, and maybe still to that.
And then when he went on air, he did break down on Facebook, killed it.
He kind of created that category, built our Facebook presence,
got hundreds of millions of views literally, then when he went on his own,
he did Twitch and became one of the top stars on Twitch.
G, I wonder if he earned it, okay?
So don't hate on either side.
So, don't assume that because someone got an opportunity in the beginning
that they're bad at it.
Is George Clooney a bad actor?
Of course not.
Even though he had maybe a little bit of a step up, or
maybe a lot of step up back in the day, right?
But he delivered on it.
On the other hand, if you're Johnny Depp's daughter, don't come at us with sexism and
all that nonsense.
>> I just think everyone's full, let's just keep it real.
Everyone, everyone's full of people who are crying about nepotism there,
full of people who claim they're not taking advantage of nepotism.