One of Donald Trump's closest
allies and current senior adviser
Jason Miller has lied under oath
about his employment status with
the Washington-based company Teneo
in order to
evade paying child support.
This story was broken by
the Guardian, and
they report that Miller appears to
have misled a Florida court about
his employment status.
Asserting in a sworn statement that
he could no longer comply with
a court order requiring him to pay
child-support payments because of
an alleged major financial setback
and was effectively out of work.
Now, again,
I just want to reiterate,
this is under oath.
It continues that Miller cited his
termination as a reason he could
not meet court-mandated payments.
Even though he had secretly agreed
to a new contract with Teneo that
meant doing the same work for
the same fee.
Previously undisclosed confidential
records from inside the company
show that, on the same day Miller
signed a formal separation
agreement and general release
from the company, he signed
a new contract with the firm.
Whereby Teneo agreed to secretly
engage Miller as a consultant
through a hastily formed LLC, and
the very same base compensation of
nearly half a million dollars,
doing the very same work.
Now, joining us is AJ Delgado,
former senior adviser to
Donald Trump and also the mother of
Miller's little boy.
AJ, thank you so much for
joining us.
>> Thank you for having me,
pleasure to be with you.
>> So I wanted to start off by
asking, it's very obvious that
Miller is a liar and engages in
deception in order to avoid doing
the responsible thing for his son.
What other lies has Miller engaged
in under oath?.
>> I'm not sure about a catalogue
of what he's engaged in under oath.
I know that there have been some
financial affidavits that have been
questionable, to say the least.
And I'm pretty certain that he's
hiding assets and income, although
I can't prove that just yet.
But it's been more so
the issue of the litigation and
the vexatious nature of it.
And how long this has dragged out
now, for nearly four years.
And that's probably been far more
painful and hurtful as far as my
career, my livelihood, my son,
our ability to enjoy our lives,
than even his dodging and his
attempts to dodge child support and
the lies told about his financials.
It's very hard for a woman to keep
up with a man who's spending 15,
$20,000 a month on litigations, and
we're having multiple hearings
every month.
>> Yeah, and then, ironically,
he says he doesn't have money to
give for child support.
So it seems rather ironic,
to say the least.
So, AJ, I wanted to ask you if it's
proven that this, in fact,
was perjury,
what are the ramifications of that?
So there's got to be civil, and
potentially criminal ramifications.
So what are you looking for
as a redress here?
>> Yeah, so
we've filed a motion to strike his
pleadings from the court, which is
basically to have the court say,
your part of the case is done
because you lied to us.
We filed that in April of 2020.
It's been sitting on the docket,
has yet to be heard.
But will, I assume,
be heard eventually.
As far as his perjury, that's for
the judge to deal with.
And then I think it would be
assigned to a prosecutor who brings
that before a jury, I've been told.
You really cannot, anytime you
file a motion that's verified,
as Ana said in the intro, you're
stating that this is under oath.
This is under penalty of perjury.
And because of that claim he made,
that he was effectively unemployed
when he wasn't.
He had instantly been rehired for
the very same salary,
by the very same company,
the same day.
That he was, quote unquote,
wink-wink, fired.
That caused me a great
deal of harm.
It's not even a little white lie
that didn't result in any actual
consequences for
the mother or the child.
I actually lost a tremendous
attorney I had at the time because
he was like, listen,
this guy's never going to be
ordered to pay me now.
I have an order saying he has to
pay my fees, but now I'm not
going to get anything from him,
I'm out.
And he did reduce, temporarily,
the child support amount, although
later he started repaying it again.
So it's not without consequences,
and what you inform a court of is
a very serious matter,
especially under oath.
So I hope there are some, but
I don't know, it's Florida.
It's a Republican state.
We've had judges that have been
very, very favorable to Miller.
So I don't really hold out much
hope, actually.
>> One thing that I'm curious about
is, you were an advisor for Trump.
But you turned to becoming a critic
of Donald Trump's.
And for those who work as
Republican strategist, advisors,
anyone within that party who dare
speak out against Donald Trump,
there are some career ramifications
that come along with that.
And you alluded to it
in the beginning of this interview.
I'd like you to elaborate on that
a little further,
what your experience has been
since you've become a Trump critic.
>> Yeah, so it's probably,
as you said,
there's a serious ramification, and
that's, you're homeless.
There's certainly no financial
windfall, or grift at all that
comes with defecting from Trump.
Because the left doesn't want you,
and the right doesn't want you.
So you're basically homeless.
It comes at huge, obviously,
personal loss because you become
persona non grata to a lot
of people that you at least
had personal relationships with.
The reason a lot of people stay in
Trump world,
even though they know better,
is because the grift never ends.
The money-making opportunities
never end.
You saw that with, for
instance, Brad.
And I think Brad's not a bad guy.
I'm not personally hitting
on that here.
There are far worse characters in
Trump world, but they basically
threw him under the bus,
and were done with him.
And he stuck around, he went on TV,
he cried about how much he loves
the Trump family.
And now he gets to build the new
Trump platform, ka-ching.
So if you stick around and
lower your ethics, put what you
know is right out of your mind and
stay in and hover, like a parasite
or some sort of person at the table
trying to ask for some crumbs.
You eventually will get that crumb,
and it might be a really lucrative
crumb.
It's a money-saving maneuver that
people engage in.
They know better, because
I've spoken to these people.
And I know they they don't really
believe in the MAGA movement, or
they never did, in some cases.
But there's a lot of money to be
made in kissing up to Donald Trump.
>> AJ, real quick,
last few questions here.
And by the way, she's referring to,
of course, Brad Parscale,
who used to be the campaign manager
of Donald Trump.
So does Miller still owe you any
child support payments?
>> Absolutely. So we're not in
disagreement, and he's tens of
thousands in what we call arrears,
even on the temporary
child support.
So he does and will,
even when the trial concludes,
owe a five-figure sum at
the very least,
probably in the $80,000 range.
And it's kind of strange why there
is any level of arrears, given that
he's paying an attorney $20,000
a month and has all this money for
litigation, but claims not to so
much for child support.
>> It's really weird, because I
thought Republicans were pro-life
and for personal responsibility.
I'm just shocked and chagrined to
find out that, in their real lives,
they're not for that at all and
are abandoning their kids in
not paying these payments.
But last question is about Teneo.
So it's this company that mainly
works for Democrats.
But they did a twofer here, AJ.
They wanted to apparently let
Miller skirt child
support payments to you.
But they also did not want to be
associated with him publicly
because he's so toxic.
But privately, they still wanted to
use him, because they needed access
to the Trump administration,
which sounds super ethical of them.
Yes, that's sarcastic.
So do you have any recourse
when it comes to Teneo, given their
responsibility in this situation?
I've had a few lawyers tell me that
I do, and I'm certainly going to
explore that.
They did cause the damage,
that I felt Miller wouldn't have
been able to get away with this
had they not engaged in their
little secret scam, sham deal.
So that is something
that I'm definitely looking into.
I think what he was doing for them,
the reason they were willing to go
so far on a limb for this guy is I
suspect it was kind of like
an unregistered lobbying situation.
He was basically a lobbyist,
I think, and
just not registered and providing
access to these individuals.
So and, hey, great,
if you want to rehire him,
that's nice.
But probably shouldn't secretly
rehire someone that everybody knows
is in the middle of a family law
litigation involving little boy and
child support.
[LAUGH] Should probably do things
out in the open.
>> Yeah, and let alone how toxic he
was politically and they didn't
want to be associated with that,
while profiting off it.
So it's a sordid tale indeed.
All right, AJ Delgado, former Trump
campaign official and current
critic of the Trump administration.
Well, thank god,
no longer Trump administration.
AJ, thank you for
joining us on The Young Turks,
we appreciate it.
>> Great to be with you, thanks.