TO COME IN EVEN IF NO OUTRIGHT
LEGALITIES, A LOT OF BAD STUFF
IN THERE.
AND SO WITH THE HOUSE OVERSIGHT
RANKING MEMBER, JIM JORDAN AND
ALSO THE CAUCUS CHAIRMAN MARK
MEADOWS, GENTLEMEN, WELCOME THE
BOTH OF YOU BUT CONGRESSMAN, TO
YOU FIRST, WHAT DO YOU MAKE THAT
JERRY NADLER, ADAM SCHIFF NOT
LETTING GO.
AND PROBABLY HEARINGS AND
INVESTIGATION OBSTRUCTION OF
JUSTICE ISSUES, WHAT DO YOU
THINK?
>> Mark: NEIL NOT SURPRISING.
JUST TWO WEEKS AGO NADLER SAID I
WOULD SUBPOENA THE DOCUMENT EVEN
THOUGH ATTORNEY GENERAL SAID HE
WOULD GIVE IT TO US IN A MATTER
OF DAYS.
TWO WEEKS AGO, ELIJAH CUMMINGS
SAID I WANT TEN YEARS OF
BUSINESS RECORDS OF THE
PRESIDENT.
AND IT WAS TWO WEEKS AGO
CHAIRMAN NEIL SAID I WANT THE
PRESIDENT'S TAX RETURNS.
THESE GUYS AREN'T GOING TO STOP,
WE KNOW THAT EVEN THOUGH THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS
IS DEFINITIVE.
THERE WAS NO DISTANT --
OBSTRUCTION, COLLUSION AND THE
WHITE HOUSE EXERTED NO EXECUTIVE
PRIVILEGES AND IT SAID 19 LAWYES
PRIVILEGES AND IT SAID 19 LAWYEI
PRIVILEGES AND IT SAID 19 LAWYEN
PRIVILEGES AND IT SAID 19 LAWYET
PRIVILEGES AND IT SAID 19 LAWYEE
40 AGENTS, 500 WITNESSES, 2,800
SUBPOENAS OVER TWO YEARS AND
MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
AND THOSE WERE THE CONCLUSIONS
BUT WE KNOW THE DEMOCRATS WILL
KEEP GOING BECAUSE THAT'S ALL
THEY ARE DOING.
THAT'S ALL THEY WANT TO DO.
>> Neil: THE CONGRESSMAN, NOT
KICKING AND SCREAMING ALONG THE
WAY BUT THEY DID ANSWER THE
PRESIDENT'S WRITTEN QUESTIONS,
BUT THERE WERE TIMES WHEN THE
PRESIDENT WERE TO BELIEVE THE
REPORT OUT NOW WANTED TO FIRE
MUELLER.
HE WANTED TO DO HIS BEST TO GET
RID OF THE GUIDE.
IT DIDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE PEOPLE
AROUND HIM WOULDN'T DO IT
INCLUDING TOP COUNSEL.
HAD THAT HAPPENED, HAD HE
SUCCEEDED IN THAT, WITH THAT
HAVE CHANGED THIS ENTIRE STORY?
>> Jim: WE DON'T KNOW, NEIL.
THE EFFECT OF THE MATTER IS HE
DID CONCLUDE THE INVESTIGATION.
LISTEN, YOU KNOW THE PRESIDENT.
I KNOW THE PRESIDENT REALLY
WELL.
IF HE WANTED TO FIRE BOB
MUELLER, HE WOULD HAVE FIRED
HIM.
TO SUGGEST THERE WAS ONE
CONVERSATION AND HE INSTRUCTED
DON BEGAN TO FIRE HIM AND IT
DIDN'T HAPPEN, WELL, LET ME JUST
SAY HE ACTUALLY REPORTS TO THE
PRESIDENT THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES AND HIS OFFICE
ABOUT THE EXECUTIVE SUITE.
IT'S NOT LIKE THEY DON'T SEE
EACH OTHER ON A REGULAR BASIS.
WE ALSO DON'T HAVE THE PRIVILEGE
OF CROSS-EXAMINATION HERE.
THIS IS ONE SIDE, A PROSECUTOR
LAYING OUT THE BEST EVIDENCE HE
HAS AGAINST THE PRESIDENT.
AND HE WAS STILL EXONERATED.
SO IT IS A GOOD DAY FOR AMERICA.
IT IS A GOOD DAY FOR THE
PRESIDENT.
BECAUSE WHAT WE NOW KNOW AND IT
WAS INTERESTING, ADAM SCHIFF HAD
THIS WONDERFUL PRESS AND THAT IS
A DIFFERENT ADAM SCHIFF ON EVERY
SUNDAY SHOW, EVERY CABLE NEWS
NETWORK SAYING I HAVE EVIDENCE.
WE ARE GOING TO FIND THE
PRESIDENT GUILTY.
NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, HE'S
CHANGING THE NARRATIVE.
IT IS TIME FOR HIM TO FESS UP
AND ADMIT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
HE DIDN'T HAVE WHAT HE SAID HE
HAD.
>> Neil: CONGRESSMAN JORDAN,
DO YOU THINK THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL WAS BEING A BIT
TOO IN LINE WITH THE PRESIDENT
AND OTHERS THAT HE ALMOST
APPEARED TO BE ACTING THE
PRESIDENT THE NATION'S TOP
LAWYER?
>> Jim: NO.
NO, I THINK THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
SAID IT HIMSELF HE HANDLED IT
WELL.
WE WILL HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE.
LAST WEEK WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT
THE FACT THAT SPYING TOOK PLACE.
AND I THINK CONCLUSIONS AND THE
CONCLUSION SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES
NO NEW INDICTMENTS, NO
OBSTRUCTION, NO COLLUSION.
I THINK HE IS HANDLING HIMSELF
EXACTLY THE WAY THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE AND THEIR ATTORNEY
GENERAL TO OPERATE.
AND I THINK WHAT IS MOST
IMPORTANT NOW, LOTS OF PEOPLE
THAT I HAVE TALKED TO, ONE HAS
TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS.
COMEY, THE TOP FBI SO BIASED
AGAINST THE PRESIDENT THAT THEY
WERE WILLING TO TAKE ONE PARTY'S
OPPOSITION RESEARCH DOCUMENT AND
UNVERIFIED, JAMES COMEY.CA TO
GO SPY ON THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN.
THAT IS WHAT THEY DID AND THEN
JAMES COMEY GETS FIRED HE
DECIDES THAT HE IS GOING TO PUSH
THIS EVEN FURTHER.
AND HE SAID I WILL LEAK MEMOS I
WROTE TO "THE NEW YORK TIMES" TO
CREATE MANUFACTURERS FOR SPECIAL
COUNSEL.
AT THE TIME HE WAS FIRED, HE
TOLD US AT THAT TIME AFTER A
YEAR OF DOING THIS, THEY STILL
HAVE NO EVIDENCE OF ANY TYPE OF
CONCLUSION.
BUT WE CAN THE INFORMATION TO
CREATE A NEED FOR SPECIAL
COUNSEL.
THAT IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED
AT AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT BILL
BARR WILL DO.
>> Neil: ALL RIGHT, WHAT
HAPPENS NOW, AND CONGRESSMAN
MEADOWS, OBVIOUSLY LISTENING TO
ADAM SCHIFF AND NATALIE ARE
COMING DURING THEY WILL ENSUE
AND THEY WANT TO TALK TO BARR
AND MUELLER.
YOU GUYS WANT TO GET TO THE
BOTTOM OF AN INVESTIGATION IN
THIS INVESTIGATION AND WHAT
STARTED IT, BUT WHEN AMERICANS
PULLED ON THE SUBJECT AND HAVE
HER SIGN AND UP ALREADY PACK IT
UP.
>> Jim: I THINK EVERYBODY SAYS
ENOUGH ALREADY BECAUSE MAINLY
WE'VE SPENT TIME ON SOMETHING
THAT PROVED TO BE FALSE.
I AGREE WITH THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE.
NOW, WHAT MOST AMERICANS WANT IS
THAT THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.
AND I WISH WE WOULD SEE CHAIRMAN
NADLER AND CHAIRMAN ADAM SCHIFF
THE SAME TENACIOUS MESS IN TERMS
OF GETTING TO THE BOTTOM OF IT.
I CAN TELL YOU JIM AND I IN THE
INVESTIGATION AS WE LOOKED AT
THE IMPROPER PROTOCOL THAT WAS
BREACHED, I BELIEVE WITH THE DOJ
AND FBI AND YET, MANY OF
THEM DIDN'T EVEN LEAVE THE VERY
DOCUMENTS AND SHOW UP FOR THE
INTERVIEWS.
AND HERE THEY ARE TRYING TO SAY
THEY ARE ABOUT RULE OF LAW AND
JUSTICE.
WE GOT TO MAKE SURE --
>> Neil: THEY ARE NOT GIVING
UP, GENTLEMEN.
JIM.
THE MUELLER REPORT IN ITSELF, IF
WE HAVE CONFIDENCE THE PRESIDENT
CLEARLY DID NOT COMMIT
OBSTRUCTION, WE WOULD SO STATE
THAT.
OBVIOUSLY, THEY DID NOT.
WE WERE NOT ABLE TO SAY THAT NO
CRIMINAL CONDUCT OCCURRED AND
OBVIOUSLY, HE DIDN'T TAKE ACTION
NOR DID ANYONE TAKE ACTION.
BUT IT WAS ALMOST LIKE HUNTED IT
TO CONGRESS AND SAID, WHETHER
YOU FIND THAT HIGH CRIME OR
MISDEMEANOR, THAT IS ON YOUR
WATCH.
>> Jim: BUT YOU ARE RIGHT.
THE SPECIAL COUNSEL BOB MUELLER,
ALL WASHINGTON SAID THE GREATEST
LAWYER IN HISTORY, THIS WOULD BE
THE END OF ALL THINGS AND HE
CHOSE NOT TO INDICT.
THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE.
YOU ARE RIGHT, MOST AMERICANS
WANT TO MOVE ON BUT THEY ARE
ALSO TIRED OF THIS DOUBLE
STANDARD.
ONE SET OF RULES FOR US REGULAR
PEOPLE, BUT A DIFFERENT SET IF
YOUR NAME IS COMEY, CLINTON,
LERNER, STRUCK HIM A PAGE.
THEY DON'T WANT THIS THING TO
HAPPEN AGAIN.
TWO-YEAR INVESTIGATION, A FALSE
PREMISE AND WE KNOW IT WAS
FOALS, THEY DON'T WANT THAT TO
HAPPEN AGAIN.
I'M SO ENCOURAGED THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL WILL GIVE US
AN BILL BARR IS GOING TO DO WHEN
HE SAYS HE WILL LOOK INTO SPYING
THAT TOOK PLACE WHERE ONE
PARTY'S OPPOSITION RESEARCH
DOCUMENT AND TO GO SPY ON THE
OTHER PARTY'S CAMPAIGN.
>> Neil: DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE
AND MAY BE WITH YOU CONGRESSMAN,
THIS IDEA THAT PEOPLE ARE
LOOKING AT THIS AND SAGGING,
ALL RIGHT, AND EVEN ADAM SCHIFF
INDICATED THIS, THERE MIGHT NOT
BE LAWS BROKEN HERE, BUT IT'S
UNSAVORY.
IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD.
THE PRESIDENT, GOING AFTER
PEOPLE.
THE LEGALITIES PER SE BUT IT
DOESN'T LOOK GOOD.
OBVIOUSLY, TO YOUR POINT, IT
DOESN'T MEAN IMPEACH THE GUY OR
PUNISH THE GUY, BUT THERE ARE
RESIDUAL EFFECTS IN THIS.
DO YOU WORRY ABOUT THAT?
>> Mark: OF COURSE, EVERYBODY
WORRIES ABOUT THAT.
I WORRIED WHEN HILLARY CLINTON
WIPED A HARD DRIVE AND GOT RID
OF A THOUSAND EMAILS.
IF YOU WANT TO USE ADAM SCHIFF'S
STANDARDS HE WOULD BE GUILTY
MEETING WITH GLENN SIMPSON THAT
STARTED THIS ENTIRE THING IN
COLORADO.
HE WOULD HAVE BEEN GUILTY OF
COORDINATING WITH SOMEONE WHO
ACTUALLY PUT THE TESTIMONY
BEFORE THE FBI.
AND SO WE LOOK AT THIS, WE NEED
TO UNDERSTAND THE RULE OF LAW IS
EXACTLY THAT.
BOB MUELLER AND THE SPECIAL
PROSECUTOR WHO GETS PAID TO
PROSECUTE PEOPLE AND INDICT
PEOPLE DID NOT INDICT THE
PRESIDENT AND COULD NOT BEFORE
PROSECUTION.
>> Jim: NOT ALL ON COLLUSION,
YOU'RE ARE QUITE RIGHT.
>> Neil: CONGRESSMAN JORDAN ON
THAT POINT, MORE RESIDUAL TO THE
REPUBLICANS THEN DISAPPEARS.
>> Jim: I THINK WHAT I'M
CONCEALED -- CONCERNED ABOUT THE
CHAIRMAN IN THE HOUSE DECIDED
THERE IS A COORDINATED EFFORT
AND ACTUALLY WROTE DOWN A
DOCUMENT, YOU WILL GO AFTER THE
PRESIDENT THIS WEEK.
HERE IS HOW WE WILL COORDINATE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT
AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT US
TO MOVE ON, THEY WANT US TO MOVE
ON BUT WE FOUND OUT THIS PAST
WEEK THE DEMOCRATIC CHAIRMAN,
CHAIRMAN SHIFT, CHAIR MOM --
CHAIRMAN NADLER, UNDERSTANDING
HOW TO
CONTINUE TO ATTACK THE
PRESIDENTS ON SO MANY
DIFFERENT FRONTS.
THAT IS WRONG AND I THINK THE
AMERICANS ARE TIRED OF IT.
>> Neil: DO YOU THINK MARK
MEADOWS THAT HE DID A GOOD JOB
IN THIS REPORT?
>> Mark: OBVIOUSLY HE DID A
THOROUGH JOB YOU CAN'T SPEND
$30 MILLION IN TWO YEARS AND
ACTUALLY HAVE 40 FBI AGENTS AND
19 ATTORNEYS WORKING ON IT.
I WILL SAY THAT THE WAY THE
REPORT READS, IT LOOKS LIKE
ANDREW WEISSMANN DID MOST OF THE
REPORT.
AND HE WAS BIASED COMING INTO
THIS.
AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
CONCLUSION, I THINK IT WAS WRONG
TO SAY, WELL, WE CAN'T PROVE
THAT WHAT YOU DID WAS NOT GUILTY
BUT ALL WE CAN SAY IS WE WILL
NOT BRING CHARGES.
THAT IS REALLY NOT UP TO HIM TO
DO.
HE HAS THE BURDEN OF PROOF, THE
BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON THE
PROSECUTOR, AND YET, HE DIDN'T
HAVE ENOUGH PROOF TO BRING
CHARGES PERIODS >> Jim: NEO
HOW CANNOT NOT BE THOROUGH,
$2 MILLION, AND MOST OF THOSE
LAWYERS DEMOCRATS OUT TO GET THE
PRESIDENT.
HOW CAN IT NOT BE THOROUGH AND
WHAT WAS THEIR CONCLUSION?
NO CONCLUSION.
>> Neil: WHEN OTHER SIDE
HOPEFULLY WE CAN PUT TO REST AND
WHO KNOWS, BUT DULY ELECTED, THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES,
AND DEMOCRATS HAVE NOT ARGUED
THAT TODAY, AT LEAST I COULD
HAVE MISSED IT GENTLEMEN BUT I
AM CURIOUS THERE WAS A LOT OF
CONVERSATION WITH RUSSIAN,
RUSSIAN OPERATIVES, THE
UNDERSTANDING IN THIS REPORT WAS
NOT COLLISION AND THE TRUMP
BOATS DID NOT RESPOND IN KIND OR
MAKE ANY SIDE DEALS OR THE KIND
OF STUFF THAT WOULD SPEAK OF
COLLUSION.
I'M NOT A LAWYER MAY BE WHAT
GUYS ARE AND KNOW BETTER.
BUT WHAT I'M WONDERING IF THAT
ALONE IS A WORRY GOING FORWARD.
AND WITH THAT THOSE KIND OF
CONVERSATIONS, LEGAL OR NOT, YOU
KNOW, CALLED INTO QUESTION JUST
HOW MUCH AND HOW DESPERATE THE
RUSSIANS WERE TO INTERFERE IN
THIS ELECTION.
AND WHAT YOU GUYS CAN DO GOING
FORWARD TO MAKE SURE THEY NEVER
GET THE OPPORTUNITY AGAIN.
>> Jim: WELL, WE ARE LOOKING
AT THIS IN HINDSIGHT, NEIL.
INTERESTING ENOUGH THAT THE ONLY
PEOPLE WHO KNEW THE RUSSIANS
WERE INVOLVED DURING THE 2016
ELECTION WERE THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION.
IT WASN'T THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES TODAY.
IT WAS THE PRESIDENT BACK THEN.
>> Neil: AGAIN, HINDSIGHT IS
20/20, BUT AGAIN TO BE FAIR TO
THE MUELLER REPORTS, NO PROOF OF
COLLUSION OR SETTING UP A DEAL
WITH THE RUSSIANS COME I
UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT YOU GUYS ARE JUST HEARING
THAT.
DOES THAT WORRY YOU BECAUSE
HOLDING A MEETING WITH
OPERATIVES IN 2020, WOULD YOU
WORRY?
>> Jim: YOU ARE ALWAYS WORRIED
ABOUT FOREIGN POWER TO HAVE
IMPACT ON OUR ELECTIONS.
THAT IS A GIVEN EVERY AMERICAN
UNDERSTANDS THAT.
BUT WHAT I TAKE AWAY FROM THIS
MULTIPLE TIMES AND THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL CLEAR ABOUT
THIS, MULTIPLE TIMES THEY
DANGLED FORBIDDEN FRUIT IN FRONT
OF PEOPLE IN FRONT OF THE TRUMP
CAMPAIGN AND THEY DIDN'T BITE.
THAT IS REASSURING.
THAT IS COMFORTING, GOOD NEWS
FOR THE COUNTRY.
GOOD NEWS AND SHOWS THE KIND OF
COME I THINK, REFLECTS WELL ON H
COME I THINK, REFLECTS WELL ON E
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
MULTIPLE TIMES THEY HAD