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guarantee WITH VENTILATORS, WE’RE WORKING
VERY HARD TRYING TO FIND NOBODY
IN THEIR WILDEST DREAMS WOULD
HAVE EVER THOUGHT WE NEED TENS
OF THOUSANDS OF VENDLATOR LAYVEN
THIS IS UNIQUE TO WHAT HAPPENED.
>> NOBODY WOULD HAVE EVER
THOUGHT IN THEIR WILDEST DREAMS
WE NEED TENS OF THOUSANDS OF
VENTILATORS.
VENTILATORS. YET AGAIN LYING.
THE IDEA THAT NO ONE AN ’TIS
NATE --
NATE -- ANTICIPATED A SHORTAGE OF
VENTILATORS IS RIDICULOUS.
LIVE-SAVING MEDICAL SUPPLIES
DURING A PANDEMIC IS SOMETHING
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WRITING ABOUT
FOR YEARS.
FOR YEARS. IN FACT, GET THIS, DONALD
TRUMP’S OWN DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
AND HUMAN SERVICES RAN A
SIMULATION SCENARIO INVOLVING A
PANDEMIC THAT BEGAN IN CHINA
CODE NAMED CRIMSON CONTAGION AND
THE FOLKS IN HHS IN THAT STUDY
FORSAW THE NEEDS THAT WE’RE
EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW, DOMESTIC
SUPPLIES OF ON HAND STOCK OF
ANTI VIRAL MEDICATIONS, NEEDLES,
SYRINGES AND 95 RESPIRATORS,
VENLDLATOR LAY
VENLDLATOR LAY VENTILATORS AND THEY ARE
DIFFICULT TO RESTOCK BECAUSE
THEY ARE MANUFACTURED OVERSEAS.
THAT THE IN A REPORT OF THAT
EXERCISE FROM HHS LAST YEAR IN
HIS OWN GOVERNMENT.
U.S. HOSPITALS HAVE ROUGHLY
160,000 VENTILATORS AND LIKE THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION STUDY
PREDICTED THAT IS FAR SHORT OF
THE 740,000 IT WOULD NEED IN A
SEVERE PANDEMIC.
SEVERE PANDEMIC. SO THE QUESTION IS IN A
WORST-CASE SCENARIO, WHERE THE
VENTILATORS ARE GOING TO COME
FROM?
FROM? LET’S TURN TO SARAH CLIFF FOR
"THE NEW YORK TIMES" WHO
CO-AUTHORED A PIECE TITLED THERE
AREN’T ENOUGH VENTILATORS TO
COPE WITH THE CORONAVIRUS.
SARAH, WHAT IS THE MISMATCH
RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF WHAT WE
HAVE AND WHAT WE NEED?
>> SO THE MISMATCH IS NOT
NECESSARILY FOR WHAT WE HAVE NOW
BUT WHAT DOCTORS SEE COMING.
THEY EXPECT TO SEE A LOT OF
PATIENTS IN RESPIRATORY FAILURE
AND THEY NEED TO PUT THEM ON
VENTILATORS AND WE MIGHT BE TWO
OR THREE OR FOUR TIMES SHORT OF
THE NUMBER WE NEED.
AS YOU MENTIONED, CHRIS, THERE
IS ABOUT 160,000 IN AMERICAN
HOSPITALS AND ANOTHER 12,700 IN
A NATIONAL EMERGENCY STOCKPILE
BUT WE MIGHT NEED MORE LIKE SIX,
700,000 TO TREAT ALL THE
PATIENTS WHO ARE COME GING IN AN
THE STORY WE’RE HEARING IS
HOSPITALS ARE TRYING TO BUY
MACHINES.
MACHINES. THEY CAN’T FIND ANYONE TO SELL
THEM AND VENTILATOR MAKERS ARE
TRYING TO RAMP UP DEMAND BUT
CAN’T INCREASE THEM FAST ENOUGH
TO MEET THE NEEDS HOSPITALS
THINK THEY WILL HAVE IN THE
COMING WEEKS AND MONTHS.
>> ON THE SUPPLY CONSTRAINT
SIDE, THERE ARE DOMESTIC
MANUFACTURERS IN CHINA, WHAT DO
THEY SAY ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY CAN
SCALE?
SCALE? THEY DON’T HAVE THE ABILITY TO
DO IT?
DO IT? >> YES, SOME OF IT IS ABOUT
SUPPLY CHAIN.
SUPPLY CHAIN. A VENTILATOR IS MADE UP OF
HUNDREDS OF PARTS FROM ALL
ACROSS THE WORLD AND RIGHT NOW
VENTILATOR MAKERS ARE SCAM BLING
TO
TO -- SCRAMBLING TO GET THE SAME
PART.
PART. THERE IS A WORK FORCE ISSUE.
ONE THING THAT’S CHALLENGING IS
THEY WANT TO BRING MORE PEOPLE
INTO THE FACTORIES AT A MOMENT
WE’RE TRYING TO PREVENT LARGE
GROUPS OF PEOPLE BEING IN THE
SAME PLACE.
SAME PLACE. SO IT’S EXPENSIVE.
YOU HAVE TO BUY PROTECTIVE
EQUIPMENT WE KNOW IS IN A
SHORTAGE.
SHORTAGE. >> OF COURSE.
>> YOU HAVE TO INCREASE YOUR
JANITOR STAFF AND CONVINCE
WORKERS THAT ARE NEW TO YOUR
COMPANY YOU SHOULD COME DO THIS
WORK AT A TIME YOU’RE TOLD MAYBE
IT’S BEST TO STAY HOME.
THERE IS DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT
MAKE IT DIFFICULT.
VENTILATOR MAKERS ARE TRYING TO
INCREASE CAPACITY RIGHT NOW BUT
THERE’S A LOT OF THINGS WORKING
AGAINST THEM IN A MOMENT OF
CRISIS.
CRISIS. >> THERE IS A HEADLINE THIS WEEK
OUT OF BRITAIN THAT SAID IT HAD
ASKED MANUFACTURERS INCLUDING
FORD, HONDA AND ROLLS ROYCE TO
MAKE THEM.
MAKE THEM. THE INDICATION OF THAT DEFENSE
PRODUCTION ACT HOW FEASIBLE
WOULD LIKE RETRO FITTING OTHER
FACTORIES INTO VENTILATOR
MANUFACTURING BE OR IS THAT A
FANTASY?
FANTASY? >> WE MIGHT FIND OUT IN THE
COMING WEEKS WHETHER THAT’S
ACTUALLY REALITY OR FANTASY.
YOU SEE SOMETHING HERE IN THE
QUITE WHERE PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS
TALKED ABOUT USING A KOREAN WAR
LAW TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR.
MARRYY BARRARYCH
MARRYY BARRARYCH MARY BARRA FROM FORD SAID SHE’D
GIVE OVER THE MANUFACTURING
LINES.
LINES. THE VENTILATOR MANUFACTURERS
SAID IT WOULD BE PRETTY COMPLEX.
THEY ARE SPECIALIZED MACHINES
AND CHALLENGING TO CHANGE A
CAR-MAKING MANUFACTURING LINE TO
A VENTILATOR MAKING LINE AND
TRAIN THE PEOPLE TO DO IT RIGHT.
IT MIGHT WORK BUT WE JUST DON’T
KNOW.
KNOW. WE’LL PROBABLY FIND OUT IN THE
NEXT FEW WEEKS IF THIS IS A
FEASIBLE APPROACH OR NOT.
>> I’VE BEEN HEARING A LOT FROM
E.R. DOCTORS THAT ARE WORRIED
ABOUT THIS INTO THE BREACH THERE
IS VIDEO CIRCULATING FROM AN
E.R. DOCTOR IN DETROIT THAT
PUBLISHED A PIECE HOW TO HACK
YOUR VENTILATOR FOR ONE PATIENT
INTO BEING ABLE TO USE IT FOR
FOUR BY BASICALLY KIND OF LIKE
PUTTING MORE TUBES INTO IT AND I
SAW ANOTHER TWEET TODAY FROM A
RURAL HOSPITAL THAT IT ACTUALLY
DONE A SIMILAR OPERATION.
HOW MUCH DO YOU ANTICIPATE WE’RE
GOING TO BE SEEING DOCTORS
ESSENTIALLY TRY TO PULL THIS
OFF?
OFF? >> I THINK WE’RE GOING TO BE A
LOT -- SEEING A LOT OF MAKE SIFT
THING
THING -- MAKESHIFT THINGS LIKE THAT
AND USING VETERINARY RESPIRATORS
FOR HUMANS.
FOR HUMANS. THESE ARE NOT THINGS THAT HAPPEN
IN NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES BUT IF
YOU HAVE NO OTHER SUPPLIES, THEY
MIGHT BE THE ONLY WAY TO HELP
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. ONE THING YOU MIGHT SEE IS
ANESTHESIA MACHINES THAT ARE
USUALLY USED DURING SURGERY, IF
SURGERIES GET CANCELLED AS WE’RE
SEEING ELECTIVE PROCEDURES GET
ENDED, THOSE MIGHT BE USED,
THOSE COULD BE RETRO FITTED AS A
VENTILATOR IN AN EMERGENCY
SITUATION.
SITUATION. SO I THINK YOU’RE GOING TO SEE A
LOT OF SHARING AMONG EMERGENCY
ROOM DOCTORS ABOUT WHAT WORKS
AND DOESN’T.
AND DOESN’T. AGAIN, NONE OF THIS IS KIND OF A
STATUS QUO.
STATUS QUO. ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO BE A
LITTLE BITTED A ED AAD HAWK AND
PROVIDERS NERVOUS THEY NEVER
REALLY DONE THIS BEFORE AND
USING MACHINES IN WAYS THAT ARE
COMPLETELY NEW TO THEM.