>> THINGS GOT HEATED.
I JUST REMEMBER NICOLE FELL
AND HURT HERSELF.
AND THIS GUY KIND OF GOT INTO
A KARATE THING.
AND I GRABBED THE KNIFE.
I DO REMEMBER THAT PORTION.
TAKING THE KNIFE FROM
CHARLIE.
AND TO BE HONEST, AFTER THAT,
I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER.
LIZ: SECRET 2006OJ SIMPSON
TAPES HAVE NOW BEEN RELEASED.
SOCIAL MEDIA IN A FRENZY OVER
THE FOOTBALL STAR TURNED ACTOR
TURNED CONVICTED FELON
HYPOTHETICALLY DESCRIBING HIS
WIFE'S MURDER.
SAYING AT TIMES THE FORMER
ATHLETE SPOKE IN THE FIRST
PERSON AS IF HE DID IT.
POWER PANEL, KURT, HE
REMEMBERS TAKING THE KNIFE
FROM CHARLIE.
WHO IS CHARLIE?
>> I HAVE NO IDEA, AND I LIVED
THROUGH THIS, LIZ.
I WAS HERE IN LOS ANGELES
STUDYING FOR THE BAR EXAM.
I THINK JESSICA WAS PROBABLY
ABOUT 3 YEARS OLD WHEN THIS
ALL HAPPENED.
THIS WAS A HUGELY TRAUMATIC
EVENT IN LOS ANGELES.
AND TO SEE THIS GUY UP THERE
SMIRKING AND JOKING AROUND THE
BUTCHERY OF TWO HUMAN BEINGS,
IT IS REALLY A LOT TO TAKE.
LIZ: YEAH.
>> I THINK THE OJ SIMPSON
VERDICT WAS ONE OF THOSE BIG
EVENTS THAT KIND OF BEGAN THE
PROCESS OF BEING WHERE WE ARE
IN OUR SOCIETY.
CREATING DIVISIONS, CREATING
DISUNITY, CREATING HATE, AND
IT MAKES ME ANGRY TO WATCH
IT MAKES ME ANGRY TO WATCH.
LIZ: JESSICA, OJ WAS ASKED
WHAT HE WOULD SAY TO NICOLE IN
HEAVEN, AND HE ALMOST SEEMED
DUMBFOUNDED.
LET'S TAKE A LISTEN.
>> DO YOU BELIEVE IN HEAVEN
AND HELL.
>> YES.
>> DO YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE
GOING TO SEE NICOLE SOME DAY?
>> YES. I DO.
AND MY MOTHER AND MY DAD.
I TRULY DO.
>> AND WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO
HER?
>> YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T THOUGHT
OF THAT.
I WOULD HUG HER.
IF THERE'S A HEAVEN AND A
HELL, THEY KNOW.
I DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN
ANYTHING.
THEY KNOW.
IT'S WHAT HEAVEN AND HELL IS
ALL ABOUT
ALL ABOUT.
LIZ: ALL RIGHT. SO HE DOESN'T
KNOW WHAT HE WOULD SAY TO HIS
MURDERED WIFE JESSICA.
WHEN THIS HAPPENED, WHEN
THEY -- THE TWO WERE MURDERED,
HE KEPT SAYING, JESSICA, WE
HAVE TO FIND THE KILLERS.
AND THEN HE WENT OUT AND
PLAYED GOLF.
IN THIS INTERVIEW, WHAT'S SO
STRIKING IF YOU HAVE THE TIME
TO WATCH IT.
ESSENTIALLY HE'S TALKING ABOUT
CHARLIE IN THE THIRD PERSON
WITH A KNIFE AND THAT RON
GOLDMAN TOOK A KARATE STANCE.
THERE'S DIFFERENT DETAILS THAT
ARE COMING OUT ABOUT THIS;
RIGHT?
>> WELL, DEFINITELY.
I THINK THAT THE MAIN POINT
THAT YOU'RE GOING TO WALK AWAY
FROM THIS IS THERE'S A VERY
CLEAR NARCISSIST AND VERY,
VERY SICK MAN HERE WHO IS
CREATING NEW DETAILS THAT DID
NOT COME OUT IN A VERY LONG
COURT CASE THERE THAT HE HAS
NEVER DISCUSSED BEFORE IN WHAT
SEEMS LIKE A GROSS MISCARRIAGE
OF JUSTICE.
I DID NOT LIVE THROUGH IT.
I WAS OLDER THAN THREE.
BUT I WASN'T PAYING AS MUCH
ATTENTION.
BUT WATCHING A NEW GENERATION
TAKING THE OJ EFFECT I THINK
IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT
IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.
LIZ: KURT, THIS IS A CASE OF
FORENSIC OVERKILL WHAT
HAPPENED TO NICOLE.
YOU'RE AN ATTORNEY.
COULD YOU BUILD A NEW CASE OFF
OF THIS?
>> NOT -- NO, I COULDN'T.
THERE'S NO CRIMINAL CASE.
HE'S BEEN ACQUITTED BY A JURY
AND, OF COURSE, WE DON'T HAVE
DOUBLE JEOPARDY.
HE'S ALSO BEEN FOUND BY
MURDERS IN A CIVIL CASE
MURDERS IN A CIVIL CASE.
LIZ: IF YOU SET THAT ASIDE.
I UNDERSTAND DOUBLE JEOPARDY.
BUT --
>> TO RETRY HIM?
.
LIZ: YEAH.
>> OH, ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK THIS SMIRKY CONFESSION
IS DEVASTATING TO HIM.
I THINK HE'S LAUGHING AT US.
THAT AND BE VERY HARD-PRESSED
TO COME TO THE SAME VERDICT
AGAIN.
THIS IS JUST AWFUL, AWFUL
STUFF.
AND, YOU KNOW, I -- HE TALKS
ABOUT HEAVEN.
HE NEEDS TO GET RIGHT WITH GOD.
LIZ: CHARLIE, THE ALTER EGO
PERSONA APPEARS RIGHT,
JESSICA?
>> HE DOES APPEAR.
AND NO ONE KNOWS WHO THAT IS,
SAID EARLIER.
THESE ARE NEW DETAILS COMING
OUT THERE.
THE NARCISSISM AGAIN.
AND THE FACT THAT HE'S WALKING
AROUND LAS VEGAS AND YOUNG
GIRLS ARE WANTING TO TAKE
PICTURES OF HIM AND TREATING
HIM AS CELEBRITY AS OPPOSED TO
SOMEONE WHO NEEDS TO BE LOCKED
AWAY FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE
IS VERY DISTURBING.
I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD BE
WATCHING THESE THINGS
WATCHING THESE THINGS.
LIZ: HE GAVE VERY LENGTHY
QUESTIONS TO HYPOTHETICALS,
KURT.
>> YEAH. HE DID.
I THINK IN A WAY HE WAS
LAUGHING AT US BECAUSE HE
KNOWS THERE'S NOTHING ANYONE
CAN DO.
IT'S A MATTER OF JUDGMENT FOR
OUR SOCIETY.
ARE WE GOING TO TOLERATE THIS
PERSON?
IS IT OKAY WHAT HE DID?