REL COME BACK, AFTER SEVERAL TRIES HOURS OF DEBATE AND SIGNIFICANT QUHANGSK MIME’S DADE
COMMISSIONER THIS WE CAN DECIDED
TO BRING BACK AN INDEPENDENT
REVIEW PANEL THIS REVIEW CASES
OF OFFICER AS CUESED OF
MISCONDUCTS.
>> BROWARD COUNTY IS GOING TO
CONSIDER CREATING SUCH A PANEL
THIS COMING WEEK.
CITY OF MIAMI HAS HAD ITS OWN
CIVILIAN INVESTIGATIVE PANEL IN
PLACE FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND THE
GENTLEMAN YOU SEE THERE, RODNEY
JACOBS WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN
SETTING IT UP.
HE JOINS US NOW VIA SCEUP.
HE IS THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF
THE PANEL.
RODNEY, GOOD AFTER NAN, GREAT TO
SEE YOU.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON MICHAEL AND
QULENNA IT IS GOOD TO BE BACK.
>> LET ME ASK YOU.
THE PANEL THAT THE MIAMI DADE
COMMISSION APPROVED THIS WEEK, I
BELIEVE ON AN 8-4 VOTE WHICH THE
MAYOR SAYS HE WILL APPROVE, HE
HAD VETOED SOME PREVIOUS PLANS,
IT’S GOT LIMITED POWERS.
DOES NOT HAVE SPP POWER OVER
COUNTY EMPLOYEES OR CERTAINLY
OVER POLICE.
IS IT STILL WORTH THE EFFORT TO
HAVE THIS?
>> ABSOLUTELY, MICHAEL.
I MEN IN MANY WAYS THIS SAY
LANDMARK AND MONUMENTAL
DECISION.
I THINK IF ANY TIME WE COULD
HAVE CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT IN ANY INJURES
DICTION, IT WORKS TOWARDS HAVING
A MORE COLLABORATIVE POLICE
DEPARTMENT SO THAT PEOPLE IN THE
COMMUNITY CAN FEEL MORE SAFE AND
TRANSPARENT WHEN CONDUCTING
BUSINESS WITH POLICE OFFICERS.
I THINK FOR A LONG TIME THERE
HAS BEEN A HIATUS OF POLICE
OFFICER TRANSPARENCY FOR THE
COUNTY, SO IT IS COUNT OF
OVERSIT FOR THE LARGEST POLICE
DEPARTMENT IN THE SOUTH, IT IS
INSTRUMENTAL, I THINK A LOT OF
PLACES WILL LOOK TOWARDS MIAMI
DADE COUNTY WITH WHAT RIGHT
LOOKS LIKE IN POLICING.
>> INTERESTING THAT YOU USE THE
WORD HAPPENED MARK BECAUSE THE
COUNTY HAD ONE OF THIEVES EXACT
PANELS PRIOR TO ABOUT WHAT, TEN
YEARS AGO.
AND IT WAS NOT RENEWED BECAUSE
OF BUDGETARY CONSTRAINTS.
>> THAT’S RIGHT.
>> CAN YOU TAKE US THROUGH WHAT
WORKED AND DIDN’T WORK THEN AND
HOW WILL THIS BE DIFFERENT NOW?
>> WELL, FIRST AND FORE MOST,
JUST IN CONSTRUCTION ITSELF,
BEFORE WHAT WE HAVE NOW, THE
OVERSIGHT ENTITY WAS MORE SO FOR
ALL COUNTY EMPLOYEES.
IT LOOKED AT A MYRIAD OFACTION,
OFFICERS, THIS ONE FOCUSES
STRICTLY ON POLICING ITSELF, SO
I THINK HAVING THAT LASER KIND
OF FOCUS OVER OVERSIGHT GIVES
YOU A MORE EFFICIENT AND
EFFECTIVE PANEL.
I THINK ALTHOUGH THE SPP POWERS
ARE TIED INTO AN EXTENT, THE
DEPARTMENT WILL STILL BE ABLE TO
SPP EVIDENCE AND INFORMATION TO
ALLOW INVESTIGATORS TO DO THEIR
WORK EFFICIENTLY BUT I THINK ONE
OF THE BEST THINGS THAT THIS
PANEL DOES IS IT LOOKS AT
PATTERNS AND PRACTICES OF POLICE
OFFICER MISCONDUCT AND ABUSE.
AND I THINK WITH THAT KIND OF
COLLABORATION WITH THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT, ANOTHER OUTSIDE EYE
THAT IS LOOKING CONTINUOUSLY,
DAY AFTER DAY.
WE CAN ONLY HOPE TO GET THE BEST
POLICE DEPARTMENT IN AMERICA.
>> YEAH.
RODNEY, THE MIAMI PANEL WHICH
YOU RUN, IT DOES HAVE SPP POWER,
DOESN’T IT?
>> IT DOES.
THE CITY OF PEOPLEE
INVESTIGATIVE PANEL DOES HAVE
SPP POWER.
THERE IS NO RESTRICTIONS ON THAT
OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE STATE LAW
PRECLUDES US FROM DOING.
SO AS A CITY WE DO HAVE A LITTLE
BIT MORE BREATHED FOR OUR SPP.
>> BUT ON THE COUNTY THE WAY
THIS IS GOING TO WORK, IS IT
GOING TO ASK AN SEEK A
COOPERATIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH
THE MIAMI DADE POLICE DEPARTMENT
T IS JUST MY OPINION YOU THINK A
DIRECTOR LIKE FREDDIE RAMIREZ OR
HIS PREDECESSOR JUAN PEREZ, THEY
ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE WILLING
TO COOPERATE PRETTY WELL UP TO A
POINT, WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, I
COUNTRY THE CURRENT
DIRECTLY-- DIRECTOR AND
OBVIOUSLY FUTURE DIRECTOR AND
SHERIFF WOULD COULD RAB LATIF
WORK WITH THE PANEL.
I THINK ANY TIME ARE YOU A
PROFESSIONAL IN LAW ENFORCEMENT,
ARE YOU LOOKING TO DO THE RIGHT
THING, THE THING ARE YOU LOOKING
TO AVOWED MOST IS THAT POLICING,
SO ANYONE THAT WANTS TO ASSIST
IN THAT COLLABORATIVE ACTION, I
THINK THEY WOULD OPEN THEIR ARMS
TOWARDS AND HAVING THIS FROM A
COMEUM PERSPECTIVE GIVES TRUST
BACK INTO POLICING.
>> AND THOSE WHO WERE NOT IN
FAVOR AT ALL OF THIS MEASURE WAS
THE POLICE UNION, PRESIDENT
STEDMAN STAL, HE HAS BEEN HERE,
BEEN ON OUR PROGRAM, WE HAVE
SPOKEN ENOUGH SO I CAN SAY WITH
SOME KNOWLEDGE THAT HE FEELS
LIKE YOU FEEL THERE IS PLENTY OF
OVERSIGHT FOR BAD PLITION.
THAT HE WOULD NEVER WANT NONE TO
BE A BAD POLICE OFFICER BUT
THOSE, THAT OVERSIGHT IS IN
PLACE AND HIS BIGGEST QUESTIONS
WERE THE DETAILS, WHAT IS THE
COST OF THIS, WHAT IS THE ROLE,
WHAT WILL THE OUTCOMES BE.
THOSE ARE VALID QUESTIONS.
>> WELL, YEAH, I THINK ANY TIME
WE ARE SPENDING TAXPAYER MONEY
ON SOMETHING, IT’S BIG QUESTIONS
TO BE HAD.
BUT I THINK WHAT THE
HUMANITY COMMUNITY HAS ASKED FOR
IS MORE LAYERS OF TRANSPARENCY
THAT LOOKS AT AN OUTSIDE
INDEPENDENT ENTITY TO DO THAT
KIND OF PROFESSIONAL RESEARCH,
AND DO IT ON A CONTINUOUS BASIS,
HERE IN THE MIAMI WE HAVE A
PANEL WORKING TIREILESSLY DAY IN
AND OUT WORKING ON WAYS OUR
POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN BE BETTER,
AND THAT IS WHY IN SOME WAYS WHY
YOU HAVEN’T SEEN CITY OF MIAMI
OFFICERS ENGAGE IN INFRACTIONS
LIKE WE HAVE SEEN AT THE MIAMI
DADE POLICE DEPARTMENTS AT
AIRPORTS AND SUCH.
I THINK RIGHT NOW WE ARE AT A
TIME NOW WHERE WE ARE PAST THE
ADVERSARIAL APPROACH WE ARE AT A
PLACE WHERE WE NEED TO COME
TOGETHER AND HAVE HOPE FOR A
BETTER POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I THINK WE WILL DO THIS.
I THINK HAVING THIS SWEATER THAN
NOT HAVING IT AT ALL ESPECIALLY
IN A PLACE LIKE MIAMI DADE
COUNTY.
AS I SAID BEFORE RIGHT NOW
PEOPLE WILL BE LOOKING AT US, AS
THE LARGEST POLICE FORCE IN THE
SIGHT, HAS OVERSIGHT.
I THINK THAT MATTERS AND WE ARE
LEADING THE WAY IN THAT EFFORT.
>> YOU KNOW RODNEY,YOU HAVE BEEN
INVOLVED IN THIS FOR MANY YEARS.
CLEARLY AFTER THE DEATH OF
GEORGE FLOYD AND SUBSEQUENT
BREONNA TAYLOR AND ROCHESTER NEW
YORK, THE DEATH OF MR. PRUDE,
THERE SAY HUGE CONVERSATION
ABOUT POLICING IN THIS COUNTRY.
AND THEN YOU JUST SAW THIS WEEK
THE MAYOR OF ROCHESTER FIRED
SEVEN POLICE OFFICERS AGAINST
THE ADVICE OF COUNSEL.
I MEAN WE ARE IN A PERIOD OF
REFORM AND CHAK, ARE WE NOT?
>> OH, WE ARE INDEED, MICHAEL.
I THINK YOU AND GLENNA WILL
PROBABLY KNOW BEST, THESE ARE
CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE BEEN
HAVING FOR A VERY LONG TIME,
LONG BEFORE I PROBABLY WAS
ALIVED ABOUT REIMAGINING
POLICING AND FUGGING OUT WAYS TO
DO PUBLIC SAFETY THAT LOOKS MORE
LIKE KEEPING PEOPLE ALIVE AND
SAFE IN OUR COMMUNITIES THAN
JUST HAULING PEOPLE OFF TO JAIL
FOR EVERY LITTLE INFRACTION.
I THINK RIGHT NOW WE ARE AT THAT
POINT WHERE PEOPLE HAVE HAD
ENOUGH AND WE ARE LOOKING TO
LEAN INTO MORE INTO THIS ISSUE,
NOT JUST ALLOW THE SITUATIONS TO
HAPPEN AND THEN MOVE TO THE NEXT
CURRENT EVENT.
RIGHT NOW PEOPLE ARE LISTENING,
FOCUSING IN AND THEY ARE PUTTING
THE EFFORT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE
SO WE CAN SOLVE THIS ISSUE AND
MOVE FORWARD.
I THINK OVERSIGHT IS A NECESSARY
VEHICLE THAT WILL ALLOW US TO DO
THAT WORK, ALLOW US TO COLLECT
DATA.
>> I BEG YOUR PARDON, WE ARE OUT
OF TIME, WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL OF
YOU COMING IN AND JOINING US,
GLAD TO HAVE YOUR INCITES