GIVE VLADMIR PUTIN.
THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.
JOINING ME, MY GREAT FRIEND,
ROBERT O’BRIEN, TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION.
HELLO, ROBERT.
I’M LOOKING AT THIS.
>> LARRY, I SEE.
LARRY YOU’RE FIRST IN THE NATION
CAUCUS STATE IN IOWA TESTING THE
WATERS.
HOW ARE THE WATERS?
2024?
LARRY: IOWA IS NICE.
>> NEXT WEEK?
DON’T LET PRESIDENT TRUMP KNOW
YOU’RE OUT THERE.
LARRY: [LAUGHTER].
ALL RIGHT, BROTHER O’BRIEN.
THEY’RE MEETING, THE DEPUTY
FOREIGN MINISTERS ARE MEETING.
USA AND RUSSIA.
NOTHING IS HAPPENING.
THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE NATO
MEETINGS.
THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE THE
EUROPEAN RUSSIAN SECURITY GROUP
MEETINGS.
I, I’M THINKING THAT ALL OF THIS
IS AN ELABORATE TOE DANCE AND
BIDEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MAKE
CONCESSIONS TO PUTIN.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?
WHAT MIGHT THOSE CONCESSIONS BE?
>> WELL, LARRY, OUR WHOLE LIVES
WE HEARD EVER SINCE WORLD WAR II
AND THAT GREAT GENERATION WE
HEARD ABOUT APPEASEMENT AND THE
QUOTE, MUNICH MOMENT, RIGHT?
OFTEN TIMES IT DIDN’T REALLY
FIT.
IF IT WAS SOME SMALL COUNTRY, IT
WASN’T NECESSARILY A MUNICH
SITUATION OR APPEASEMENT WOULD
NOT LEAD TO THE END OF THE FREE
WORLD BUT WE’VE GOT TWO
SITUATIONS NOW WITH UKRAINE AND
RUSSIA AND TAIWAN WITH CHINA
WHERE WE TRULY HAVE NEW
ANALOGOUS MUNICH MOMENTS OF THE
SAME IMPORT AND POTENTIALLY THE
SAME CONSEQUENCES WE SAW WITH
MUNICH BACK IN 1938.
WHAT PRESIDENT BIDEN DOES HERE,
WHAT HIS TEAM DOES HERE IS
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT NOT JUST TO
THE FUTURE OF EUROPE BUT TO THE
FUTURE OF THE UNITED STATES AND
THE FREE WORLD.
SO I THINK THIS IS AN
OPPORTUNITY, IF PRESIDENT BIDEN
STANDS STRONG FOR HIM TO IN SOME
WAYS SAVE HIS PRESIDENCY, SAVE
HIS FOREIGN POLICY AGENDA BUT
AMERICA HAS TO STAND STRONG
HERE, LARRY, WE CANNOT GIVE THE
KIND OF CONCESSIONS YOU’RE
TALKING ABOUT.
LARRY: I’M NOT EVEN SURE, LOOK,
YOU’RE THE EXPERT.
I’M NOT SURE WHAT THE
CONCESSIONS WOULD BE BUT I JUST,
YOU KNOW, I HEAR BARKING BUT NO
ACTIONS.
YOU KNOW I HEAR ANTHONY BLINKEN
SAYS ON THE SUNDAY TALK SHOWS,
WE’LL HAVE MEETINGS THIS WEEK
BUT NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
TO ME IT SOUNDS LIKE DIPLOMATIC
FAILURE.
I AGREE WITH YOU, THE THREAT OF
APPEASEMENT HANGS IN THE AIR,
YOUR HISTORY IS RIGHT, THIS IS A
TURNING POINT.
WHAT KIND OF CONCESSIONS?
WILL HE SAY FOR EXAMPLE WE’LL
LET YOUR TROOPS IN BUT JUST THE
DUNN BASS REGION.
YOU CAN’T TAKE OVER WHOLE OF
UKRAINE BUT MOVE INTO DUNN BASS?
IS THAT A CONCESSION.
>> THE RUSSIANS ARE LAYING IT
ALL OUT PUBLICLY.
NATO CANNOT PUT ADVANCE WEAPONS
ON THE EASTERN BORDER.
IN OTHER WORDS THE POLES CANNOT
GET F-35 OR MISSILES TO PROTECT
THEMSELVES.
ROMANIANS AND POLES CANNOT HAVE
MISSILE DEFENSE.
THEY WANT TO BASICALLY
FINLANDIZE EASTERN EUROPE.
FINLAND AND ARE NOT NATO
MEMBERS, THEY CAN’T BE ALLOWED
TO JOIN NATO.
UKRAINE AND MOLDOVA, GEORGIA,
CAN’T JOIN NATO.
SO THE LIST OF CONCESSIONS THE
RUSSIANS ARE SEEKING FROM THIS
MILITARY BUILD-UP, IT IS CLASSIC
APPEASEMENT.
I REALLY HOPE THAT THE TONY
BLINKEN AND JAKE SULLIVAN AND
THE PRESIDENT REMAIN STRONG,
STEADFAST AND REJECT ALL OF
THOSE CONCESSIONS BECAUSE ONCE
YOU START MAKING THEM, AS YOU
KNOW, LARRY IT IS A VERY
SLIPPERY SLOPE AND VLADMIR PUTIN
WILL JUST POCKET THEM ONE AFTER
ANOTHER.
LARRY: ROBERT, WHAT IS HAPPENING
WITH RUSSIA’S INTERFERENCE AND
INTERVENTION IN KAZAHKSTAN?
BECAUSE I KNOW KAZAKHSTAN IS
DIFFERENT THAN THE UKRAINE, BUT,
BUT, BUT, THEY HAVE EXTRA
TROOPS, THEY’RE GOING BACK IN,
THERE IS SPECULATION LEFT AND
RIGHT.
MAYBE KAZAKHSTAN IS A ROAD MAP
FOR UKRAINE?
>> WELL, IT COULD BE, WHAT
VLADMIR PUTIN SAID MANY TIMES IN
THE PAST THE GREATEST
GEOPOLITICAL TRAGEDY OF HIS
LIFETIME WAS THE BREAKUP OF THE
SOVIET UNION AND HE WOULD LIKE
NOTHING MORE THAN TO ADD
KAZAKHSTAN, A OPINION PET IN
KAZAKHSTAN IN NEW SOVIET EMPIRE,
HE IS NOT A RUSSIAN OR COMMUNIST
BUT AUTHORITARIAN, TO ADD
UKRAINE REBUILD THE EMPIRE HE
THOUGHT WAS SO TRAGICALLY LOST
BY MIKHAIL GORBACHEV AND
DEMOCRATS OF THESE VARIOUS
COUNTRIES THAT DIDN’T WANT TO BE
UNDER THE RUSSIAN YOKE ANY
LONGER.
I WOULD BE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT
WATCHING KAZAKHSTAN.
I THINK THE OTHER INTERESTING
THING ABOUT KAZAKHSTAN, THE CHINESE ARE MAKING BIG ROADS
CHINESE ARE MAKING BIG ROADS
INTO THE STANS, TURKMENISTAN,
KAZAKHSTAN.
HE IS SAY TELLING CHINA
KAZAKHSTAN IS HIS BACKYARD.
INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THIS IS
BEING WATCHED IN BEIJING AS
WELL.
LARRY: LAST ONE, BIDEN TALKS
ABOUT SANCTIONS, OKAY?
HERE YOU HAVE GOT SENATOR TED
CRUZ WILL GET A VOTE ON THE
FLOOR OF THE SENATE TO RESTORE
THE NORD STREAM 2 SANCTIONS.
I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE IN
BIDEN’S INTEREST TO HAVE THE
SENATE DO THAT AND YOU KNOW,
STICK IT TO PUTIN AND YET THE
WHITE HOUSE OPPOSES CRUZ’S
AMENDMENT WHICH WAS A GIFT TO
PUTIN IN THE FIRST PLACE.
HOW DO YOU FIGURE THAT?
>> I DON’T UNDERSTAND IT.
I NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY
NORD STREAM 2 WAS ALLOWED TO BE
COMPLETED.
NO ONE IN EUROPE WANTS
NORD STREAM 2 EXCEPT SMALL GROUP
OF GERMAN INDUSTRIALISTS AND
ANGELA MERKEL.
GERMAN PEOPLE DON’T WANT IT.
THE DAINES DON’T WANT IT.
GOING THROUGH THEIR WATERS.
REST EUROPE DON’T WANT TO BE
DEPENDENT ON RUSSIA SO THEY CAN
TURN OFF THE SPYING BOTTOM OF
LNG ANYTIME THEY WANT, OIL
ANYTIME THEY WANT.
I DON’T KNOW WHY WE GAVE THE
CONCESSION TO PUTIN.
ALL WE DID WAS TAKE THE
CONCESSION, POCKET IT, PUT
TROOPS ON UKRAINE BORDER AND ASK
FOR MORE CONCESSIONS FROM NATO.
THE THING WOULD BE TO PULL BACK
THE NORD STREAM 2 CONCESSION WE
GAVE THEM, NOT GAIN ANY
GOODWILL.
PULL IT BACK, TAKE A STRONG
STAND.
UNTIL THE TROOPS ARE OFF BORDER
YOU WILL NOT SELL A DIME OF
NORD STREAM 2 OIL TO THE
GERMANS.
MAKE IT CLEAR WE CAN PLAY
HARDBALL TWO.
LARRY: AMEN TO THAT.
MY LAST QUESTION, QUICKLY, DO
YOU KNOW THE DATES OF THE IOWA
CAUCUSES?
>> I KNOW IT, I’VE BEEN OUT
THERE FOR THOSE CAUCUSES I CAN
TELL YOU IT IS COLD, LARRY.
YOU WILL NEED YOUR LONG JOHNS
FOR IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE MY
FRIEND BUT PRESIDENT KUDLOW
SOUNDS GREAT.
LARRY: I WILL SEE YOU OUT THERE
IN A COUPLE OF YEARS.