charles robinson is in houston uh
charles has his finger on the pulse
uh and his finger on the button for uh
every single
source in the nfl so he's always got
everything covered around the league but
specifically he knows houston inside and
out
matter of fact charles i i read your
write up uh on the article
uh first thing this morning uh excuse me
your article on the incident on the
on the lawsuit first thing this morning
so chuck what's your read on this man
uh not the cleanest way i've ever seen a
lawsuit dropped i'll i'll say that and
i've you know spent a lot of years a lot
of years particularly when i was on the
investigative beat dealing with
you know lawsuits leaked um to the
public i've never
really seen one of this magnitude
suggested in such a vague way on
instagram
and um so what ultimately happened was
tony busby who you said you know uh
failed mayoral
candidate here in houston um what i
would call
a one of the higher profile lawyers
someone who's in the headlines
you know embraces uh the the headlines
and
and large lawsuits that kind of a thing
um he goes on his instagram he puts it
out there
um the the lawsuit was filed a little
after eight
eight pm last night was not really
available until today
and um as you said desean watson denied
it
uh the nfl declined to comment the
houston texas says the first we're
hearing about any of this
had a chance to go through the lawsuit
today and
the way this breaks down real quick just
to run through the timeline is
you know march of 2020 so a year ago
deshawn watson allegedly
reaches out to the alleged victim um in
in this
suit and says hey you know i see you're
a masseuse
i need to get a massage a relaxation
massage not a
a sport massage they have this this
exchange over dm
then it moves to text messages
eventually something scheduled desean
goes in
and and according to the suit uh at one
point watson
inappropriately touches the masseuse
with
his penis okay we could say the word and
um you know these are all the
allegations that are in there
um she asks him to leave he leaves now
the i can tell you right now the crux of
of this suit is going to depending on if
this goes to discovery and what would
come out in discovery
the crux of this that i think what is
the biggest pinpoint in this
this suit that was put out there is
the uh claim by the attorney tony busby
that desean followed up the incident
with an apology
now that's how they characterize it an
apology text message
we don't know what the text message is
there was no characterization of exactly
what was said
in the text message they could be
framing it as an apology maybe we read
it later and we go out maybe
you're reading into it we don't know um
but the point
i think of the suit here when i read
through it was
uncapped punitive damages it was
wide-ranging
you know pain and suffering loss of
wages all these different things loss of
sleep
and decoding lawsuits when you do it
long enough
what i read in this is an attorney who
is trying to get desean watson's
camp to look at deshawn watson and say
look they're asking for this to be taken
in front of a jury
they're saying they have this text
message apology from you
and they're saying uncapped damages and
a lot of things
a lot of damage done allegedly to this
victim
it is to me in in in the history of of
decoding lawsuits
um you're basically saying to the
opposing side we've tried to
get a settlement prior to filing this
and we're this is our second shot at
trying to get a settlement here
with language that really suggests
hey if you let this go in front of a
jury and the jury sees this our way
you have no idea the damages that this
this could incur we could be talking
millions and millions of dollars
not the alleged six-figure settlement
that desean watson says they tried to
extract before filing the suit so
not so even if he believes he's innocent
even if he believes he's innocent
it may legally be in his best interest
to settle regardless
i will tell you that every attorney i've
spoken to
and we're talking big attorneys
nationally known attorneys attorneys who
take celebrity cases huge athlete cases
who have taken on the nfl all these
different things
all say the same thing you never ever
ever ever if there's any chance want to
get in front of a jury
because um they have seen juries juries
can get swung by who tells the best
story
where they have been certain that all
the facts lined up in their in their
you know case and that hey we got it's a
slam dunk
and then someone tells a better story in
the courtroom and the jury
sides with the story rather than the
meticulous layout of what the facts of
the case may be there's always that
danger
so a lot of settlements i will say this
like a lot of settlements occur
because lawyers look at their clients
and they go it's a risk
and so either are you going to mitigate
the risk and settle for this
or are you going to go ahead and say no
i'm fighting it all the way to the wall
and you're willing to take the chance
that the jury doesn't see it your way
interesting charles by the way uh nice
background finally
i like it
that's for michael smith by the way and
i'm going to work on the lighting i
promise to work on the lighting but
if i am if i look like i'm in the shade
of a tree right now blame michael smith
for this because this is 100
being worked out in it for his for his
benefit
work on the lighting look good and work
on best and work on best man holiday
we're not going to talk about that right
now
i do want to ask you do you believe
that this will affect teams that are
that that want to pursue deshaun watson
want to acquire him
do you think this will make anybody
pause and say i don't know about this
this could get ugly
it's not great i mean it's never i don't
think
this is an added layer of so i was
talking to a head coach
right around the super bowl we were
talking about desean watson and
he was you know it was a team that
needed a quarterback and we kind of went
through
i asked him i said you know like what is
your thoughts on this like what what's
happening with sean watson the texans
and this was prior to all this stuff and
he said you know
the funny thing about desean is um
when he came out like the the process of
vetting him and kind of going through
everything you go through when you're
considering a guy with a draft pick
is he was it's very clean like it was
very it was very you know
what what was going on with the texans
at that moment where he wanted out
didn't really fit quote unquote with the
character
of what their player evaluation was and
he said so it leads me to believe
what's wrong with the franchise rather
than what's wrong with the player
he was saying what's wrong with the
franchise because i feel like i know the
player
and so this signals to me that there's
something wrong with the texans
i'm just saying that you add in this and
this is another thing
where teams sit there and go wait a
minute this doesn't align
with the background that we've done this
doesn't align with the character eval
that we've done this doesn't align and
and i'm not saying that this is true
about desean watson i'm not saying it's
false about the sean watson we will see
as it plays out
sure but again that becomes a
conversation in the room
now will it stop the carolina panthers
and david tepper
who i think are really in aggressive
pursuit of this
i don't know that will it stop you know
um
the miami dolphins organization from
wanting to get involved
i don't know that but i can just say
that it does not help when now you have
to have this additional
layer of vetting and a conversation in
the room and know that you
you now are on boarding something if you
deal for him you're not you're on
boarding something that's not clean as
it's already playing out
yeah it it at minimum is a lot more due
diligence
let's let's just be honest about it it's
just it's just a lot more
due diligence that these uh that these
teams have to do um
michael you had anything else on the
show and also go to uh russell wilson
pivot okay okay um so
russell wilson according to dan patrick
the price according to his sources the
price tag
at least from the bears perspective was
a three first a third
and two starters i i jokingly not joking
i was serious i'm like i didn't know who
these starters were because
were they people who actually just
started a game or were they like quality
starters or were they chicago bear
starters and the ceo i was like nah they
ain't starters for us they might be
starters for you but
you know that's that's got to do with
our standards uh what are you hearing on
the russell wilson front not as uh
the teams on his hypothetical list seem
to be uh being eliminated one by one
right well first off um i was not able
to confirm
the package that dan patrick rolled out
there in terms of three first the third
and then the starters
but i will say this i do know how the
seahawks
work their draft board and i will say
this it is a draft board that
typically prioritizes 15
16 maybe 17 guys his first round picks
every year
so in their minds you and and you have
to take this into account when you're
weighing trades
if a team like the bears comes to you
and they're picking in the 20s
and you're and they're saying give us
your mvp caliber quarterback
which should in effect make us a better
team which means we're going to be
picking in the 20s or geez maybe even
the 30s
and your draft board is typically
stacked with 15 to 16
first-round picks annually those are
second-round picks
the organization looks at those as
second round picks it's why
when we've talked about desean watson we
keep saying over and over jets and
and dolphins well we're saying that
because they have top five picks and top
five picks or top five picks on any
board
there's no board that goes hey we only
have three first round picks on our
board this year
um so so if people are saying well geez
why would the seahawks turn down that
kind of a package that's crazy
it's because those picks are not
necessarily valued as first rounders
by the seattle seahawks organization now
i can tell you this there are other
teams calling the seahawks okay
that and i think you know let's say the
jets let's say the miami dolphins that
would really like
russell wilson to open up that four team
grouping that really no longer exists to
an extra few teams i think the jets and
the dolphins so that they could have a
realistic conversation
with the seahawks about russell wilson
the seahawks right now look at russell
wilson's deal
and they go hey we owe this guy 109
million over the next three years
given what has happened with the
quarterback market it's you know
we're not getting the greatest deal but
it's a pretty decent deal for what we're
getting the return on
russell wilson what makes me believe
that if russell wilson said hey i'll go
to the jets or i'll go to the dolphins
what makes me believe there could still
be traction there
is because when you talk to the two
camps russell wilson's camp the seattle
seahawks camp
and you ask them help me understand
how you put this thing you know fix it
how do you fix it when it's if he
doesn't get dealt
how do you fix things neither side a
is really taking that moment to go hey
here's
let's start fixing it right now neither
side as of at least yesterday
was really trying to fix it and neither
side could really
say exactly whether or not they thought
it was fixable they both have
significant trust issues
mostly about things and details that
were leaked in the media
and feeling like russell wilson was
trying to undermine pete carroll and
some players
and the organization feeling like um or
the organization feeling like russell
wilson was trying to undermine pete
carroll and some players and russell
wilson feeling like
the organization put out mechanics of
private meetings that happen
to undermine him and maybe the effect he
wants to have on the team move forward
so
that kind of trust issue this late is is
troubling and the fact that this didn't
get tried to
they didn't neither side really tried to
sweep this up quickly when it kind of
got out of control
leads me to believe that this is
something that's going to continue to be
a storyline
if you ask me when could a trade occur i
think for us
it's in the next two weeks for desean
watson i think we could go all the way
to the draft
before that resolves itself but i
thought the russell wilson thing would
be
repaired far more quickly than it is and
it's it's interesting to me that neither
side really can tell you
yeah here's how we'll we'll we're going
to fix this and here's how
depending on uh depending on who you
believe charles the patriots have
between
20 and 30 million dollars left to spend
in free agency uh what are your thoughts
on what they've done so far
um well i can tell i'll tell you what my
thoughts don't matter but i can tell you
what some other teams think
um that the
i've i've spoken to a number of other
teams that
believe um let's start with the tight
ends okay i think other teams look at
the tight ends as
sort of the highlight of what they've
done because they get the methodology of
what bill belichick was doing here
he sat there and said hey if i devote 11
to 12 million dollars
to a starting x wide receiver
what am i getting for that return in
terms of a mix mismatch element
not a lot you know considering the wide
receivers that are on the market
particularly at that 11 to 12 million
price point now hunter henry and and
johnny smith
if you use them correctly and you can
you can really make them worth
what their talent ceiling is supposed to
be you can create a lot of mismatches
when you put those two tight ends on the
field so
from that standpoint i think some teams
go okay we get it we think they paid a
little too much for these tight ends
based on the 2019 production
but we get what they're doing from a
mismatched standpoint and then they went
and got a couple warm bodies and nelson
aguilera and kendrick born
for the x and y positions um at wide
receiver
um or the x and z positions at wide
receiver
and so i think all in all
teams are kind of meh about the overall
class they're like man they spent a ton
of money
and when you spend a ton of guaranteed
money in particular
you're making up for draft classes that
you screwed up that you blew
and so that's you know this is the
bouquet of flowers and the chocolates
for the fan base that hey
you know what we were terrible when we
drafted a number of guys it didn't work
out
so we're making up for it with this
draft or with this free agency class
at the end of the day i think what
matters is the quarterback what are you
doing with the quarterback uh position
if you're if david andrews goes out the
door at center
now you've lost you know tony and
andrews that's a significant part of
your offensive line i know you brought
in trent brown um it's
we'll see i mean to me if you don't fix
the quarterback appropriately or you
don't
get what you think you get out of cam or
draft the rookie or whatever you're
going to do at quarterback
that's it's all for not because if if
you have listened to anybody in the
league over the last year
every team now is coming to the belief
that if we don't have the right
quarterback who can win a super bowl
then we're doing it wrong and we need to
start there first
appreciate you man uh you always do
what's right every single week
appreciate you emptying your notebook
chuck and notebook um and
teaming i i miss i i kind of miss the
background now
i'm sorry i mean not i'm looking at it
i'm just like man
you know the spaceship time travel
flux capacitor look was kind of but but
downtown houston's cool too
so i'll take it what you know what do
you want like do you want
to know i
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fund and send me a background so we can
make michael smith happy
with what we're doing here okay and
maybe sure you'll fix the light
the lighting too that would help
it's about what you're saying man that's
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