for young turk is with us along with salon dot com is the land that greenwald five he
is the definition
of firebrand how much longer
it may take and how much longer can people with an agenda like
uh... the sort of things that you advocate for drink that you advocate for glenn continue
to look to this political structure to do it in this president and his party to do with
china at the end of the election i said that's it undone end of this agape now i was never
really one of the guys who
support the white house for the status of order what has invited a lot of heat for that
right now but because i challenge the government that's and i think it's for the job of the
media
renewable and as as well preferable action stevens your on that side
really but it is really told us a lot of teaching
well i i couldn't possibly understand is used usually three-dimensional chess well what
what part of three-dimensional trustee or ukraine united bishop
and the house of representatives
now they were wrong we were right it's time to fight
where's the leverage plan
well that's the issue is there there hasn't been any leverage because you can complain
and an object all sorts of things but at the end the day politicians know that they're
good you're going to give them to
here i'm dying an unconditional support because the other side is just mildly worse what you're
doing is you're insuring that you'll be ignored
but i think this election actually reveals some leverage which is one of the reasons
why the democrats got destroyed is because the base of the party the people who put the
democrats in power in the last election's didn't bother go and vote and the reason they
didn't bother known vote is because they were given a reason why they thought it was worthwhile
that is leverage that's calling the democrats
you will be out of power not just and that the house representatives but in the senate
in the white house if you continue on this path to add one other thing look
one adjective actually is that the you know the uh... idea that it's the far left that's
that's more than four even the baby characterization right as the far right
looted the country overwhelming grease on certain days one was a public option
even the majority of republicans and some polls were in favor the politic because we
know the health insurance companies are robin s when i have a choice so we all want to join
us right
huge majorities for that the white house ignores it
and then go on after that
angst got the whole country who was born after the banks
unduly well why don't you know does not want the bones of a great majority of the country
but i i i think that that i could get the answer why he didn't do it
is the obvious one which is that forty percent of all money for political functionality comes
from back
the next biggest contributor for all political functionality all campaign money comes from
the health care insurance companies
and insurance monopoly we function we have a plan a government that is not democrats
republicans
six major industries that provide all of the capitol most of it come from healthcare and
finance energy defense not far behind
and as a result the politicians work to perpetuate those old interests
to your point everybody would like to see more choice more competition but they don't
get it
because the politicians are more happy to work four of those who write the checks at
the expense of the balance of our country how much longer can if you are great to hear
you're right about that the reason they're a powerful factions in washington is because
they're powerful which means that they have lots of leverage they can threaten politicians
and their ability to remain in power
and the but but the person who knows that that's the critique that you just articulated
as brock obama himself his whole campaign was based upon
subverting that very system namely that no matter who wins democrats or republicans
the same special-interest continue to prosper or the ordinary americans suffer and the plan
was that buyers someone this highly energized activated citizenry behind him this army of
people who believe in
the change that he would bring he could circumvent all of those power structures he could tell
them that they could no longer have their way because they couldn't do anything to him
because he had this army of highly energized uh... young voters first-time voters on the
like and they squandered that instead of becoming the voice of popular stories they became the
target of that because they became the agents of the status quo rather than agents of change
he took the words right out of my mouth
lady squandered but let me and i'll let me up because the middle of the twenty pcs fundamental
error was weak
asks you to do change on the specific issues
that's great health care reform and said that's lovely ok anderson cooper wins in the parents
of several right
we asks you teach
instance system college that someone else
how it's going well what's going on
uh... if you
look at the failure to change how it's done and glenn's argued that with that which is
the only way to change how it's done is this massive coalition engaged coalition outside
of the political process with a charismatic leader in the white house
that can combine and ultimately reform the process and the post primary the gerrymandering
of all the districts suppose it's a competitive election
i get seventy five percent of all the house seats were not up for grabs because of the
gerrymandered it's always compatible action
and only twenty five percent of the seizure of play you go down that list
if you look at the fundamental obama failure which was to have the engagement to become
the president provide this coalition and then up in the navigation and a new look
constructively in a movie like the social network in the marks are property
aspect which is that if you choose engagement as a political or business philosophy it whatever
it is once i engage you know this from the young turks republish constantly you notice
from the work that you do and and so on and off and that they will be avoided businesses
set up
is based on engagement plan
one chewing gauge you cannot disengage
that they predict for the court to engage in is the decision to engage has today become
a constancy or else you will have the level of betrayal
that we now see
willy-nilly that that's the real tragedy of the obama presidency is their millions of
people
do it on the eve of the political process had nothing to offer them who were turned
away from it or wallowing in cynicism and they got convinced to put aside their cynicism
for the first time ever that there was really hope
that they would be able to realize by investing themselves in the political process and that
has come crashing down
and i don't see how it can be re-engage in the irony of headline biggest well concluded
that
this is my thought was the real chance that something would be made her international
in this worked that i don't ever believe absolutely group of u_s_ it'd be just flat out with glenn
is sold is a great irony here but the guy who sold us whole
people slowly wonders robbing of possible and wife companies are one chance because
of the money power is she
overwhelming is such a hard thing to fight but he had a blast so i mean if i did he had
that on the let's go listen campaign finance reform let's change the way things are done
i'm not scared me right some of the lobbyist on all our politicians
and he squandered a personal note what hope do we have
take really cute dylan
forget forget how obama forget the democrats peoples a full use of or the democrats are
hell yes that's right i dealt okay
uh... and what i scores of people that's what we do online gap that you reach out to them
you say
forgettable gonna build our own right
made-up right-click anywhere no bottle at a bomb
and i'd like to add one thing that i think is really important i guarantee you there
are two people who are watching rethinking
a look at how impatient they are where they think that he was going to come in and fundamentally
braddock lee change
and every washington in two years i don't think anybody thought that i've certainly
did not go i think everybody was in it for the long haul was one got patients the reason
the more disappointed isn't because he hasn't succeeded yet it's because he's not trying
to do in the opposite he's if everything is publishes is by meeting in secret with the
very lobbyist he said he
he he was going to this in power everything that he does is intended to entrench the system
rather than subvert and undermine it so the were actually fighting everybody including
everyone at this table would have all the patients in the world we're behind you to
take a long time you don't entrenched powerful interest quickly
the disappointment is that he's not trying to have a list that one of three with what
you were just saying i completely agree with what you just said but if you look back to
two thousand and a and that's the the stadiums that were full
for brocco palmer with the hope that we really were just referring to
the truth of the matter is brock obama didn't fill the stadiums
the people
buddhist decide to believe
fill those stadiums and i think that your point is whether brocco obama has disappointed
or not
whether the g_o_p_ is going to do anything on the front of transparency
redistricting
primary reform earmark transparency or not i'll certainly encourage them to do so
the fact of the matter is that that people do
want to see this happen as evidenced by the following that you have achieved the following
that you have achieved
the number of people that appeared
in that state around the president the success of this t_v_ program and others
uh... aspects of what we are doing suggest that there's actually more energy to do this
than ever before at that we simply have not been able to identify the appropriate vehicle
to get the necessary political leverage to actually make the reform happen in the yes
is the disappointment in this president because i thought was he was the leverage abiquiu
i think is to find a way tick re-engage big and get the engagement between an agenda
and
the process as speaking of the process
packages that i want to hear it for you guys a little bit more to get you don't get that
worked out that easily problems of the body and then we need a little more expression
of the church so it's not to be our turkish friend here uh... of course that would be
the next year that i'm working with is the following jon stewart
uh... we all know and love rosa
are the resident comedian throwing tomatoes from the side
uh...
met with that tim geithner for two hours in an off the record meeting
uh... recently out when you look
actin guide his handling of the banks in the economy the precipitous decline in investment
and landing in this country
the distorted housing market
constant money printing to cover up the ongoing extraction of the financial system
and morocco promised this is no way to keep that guy but that they use that guy
off the record to try to placate people like john stewart
does that basically confirmed for you with the word glenn was saying during which is
that he didn't use not even trying
lead although it was like yeah all we have absolute look look
if if he was on a white path i'd get all the patients the world and i back in because it's
not a matter of the hunting down better to have all of it
are you headed the right direction for example no campaign finance reform
they didn't even try they'd even proposing it wasn't even on the
or the huge black border gettign
that they didn't even make it on their so about ten ten guy who is the worst example
of that why did you hire the guy who gives the money on the minds of the bags why did
you hire a guide
meanwhile the mistakes why do i mail why did you hire larry summers that week so forget
it forget it dot skull we had it we rebuild it they will copy you help me help us they
will help us build to move your core values coalition would be something real simple
transparency in competition in decision making no more monopoly no more gerrymandering
no more back-room deals
the three of us will get it we we we will probably get eighty percent of the country
one way or the other ways we need is the the people realizing that these salvation their
solution doesn't lie with unconditional support for either of the two parties you have to
find ways to press for the party the tea party did
writing what you're gonna see it as the president proceeds on the same path is articulated so
many uh...
done with the core democratic supporters and lots of other people as well going down that
path for me kelly made them more and get this deficit commission
results and cost of social security which all of washington expects that it well
then you're gonna see massive up people's one of the party alignment a little that will
be a a great opportunity they come to cut social security and we're going to go to war
did not just against the republicans leg awarded sole bala white house the day
it's not going to happen talia's not they're gonna try
okay he put fourteen out of eighteen of those guys are activation orchestra concert after
they wanna cottage would not go out and do it i believe yes i believe you a member of
grateful that the updated work with both of your buyer both airworks
scott gently back a little later with a rent