SOME STUDENTS RETURN TO CAMPUS
FOR THE THANKSGIVING DAY BREAK,
CARLEY AND TODD.
>> Carley: BROOKE THANK YOU SO
MUCH.
SPECIAL AGENT JONATHAN GILLIAM
PURE JONATHAN GOOD MORNING TO
YOU.
THE HEADLINE TODAY, THERE REALLY
ISN’T ONE.
TWO WEEKS IN AND NO INFORMATION
ON WHO COMMITTED THIS CRIME.
ARE THERE ANY DETAILS THAT YOU
ARE HONING IN ON IN THIS CASE?
>> I DO THINK THERE ARE SOME
IMPORTANT THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC
SHOULD BE INFORMED OF SO THEY
CAN GET AN IDEA WHAT THEY ARE
LOOKING FOR.
I HAVE BEEN VERY CRITICAL OF THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEY FIRST
HANDLED THESE THINGS BUT I HAVE
TO TELL YOU I DON’T BLAME THEM
AT ALL FOR NOT TELLING THE
FAMILIES ANYTHING ELSE.
EVER SINCE THIS OCCURRED, THE
FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE BEEN ON A
PODCAST, NEWSCAST AND
LAW ENFORCEMENT IS AUTOMATICALLY
GOING TO PULL BACK ON THE
INFORMATION THEY PROVIDE IF THAT
OCCURS.
SO, I DON’T BLAME THEM FOR THAT.
BUT WHAT I DO THINK THEY SHOULD
BE DOING AND THEY PROBABLY ARE
NOT GOING TO BECAUSE THEY THINK
THEY WILL INFLAME THE SITUATION
OF PEOPLE BEING NERVOUS IF THEY
DO THIS, BUT PEOPLE HAVE TO
UNDERSTAND ABOUT WHAT OCCURRED
ON THAT NIGHT AT THE TYPE OF
PERSON THAT WOULD DO THIS.
NOW, I’VE HEARD SOME ANALYSTS
SAYING THINGS THAT ARE
SOUND BITE RELATED.
ONE ANALYST ON ANOTHER NETWORK
SAID IT WAS PROBABLY A FEMALE OR
SAME ARGUMENT OR SOMETHING AND
INFLAMED IT AS EXCLUSIVE OR
ALL-INCLUSIVE TYPE OF THING.
I DON’T THINK THAT IS THE CASE.
I’M PRETTY SURE THIS WAS A YOUNG
MALE, SOMEBODY WHO COULD GET
INTO THE HOUSE AND GET OUT IN
THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT BEING
SEEN.
I DON’T THINK IT WAS TO PEOPLE
BECAUSE THE MORE PEOPLE YOU HAVE
GOING INTO THAT HOUSE, THE MORE
LIKELY IT IS THAT THEY WERE
GOING TO BE SEEN.
IT THINK IT IS ONE MALE YOUNG
ENOUGH TO HAVE BEEN IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THINK THAT POTENTIALLY THEY
ENTERED FROM THE SECOND FLOOR
BECAUSE THE FIRST FLOOR WAS
NEVER DISTURBED HERE OR THERE IS
ALSO A WOODED AREA BEHIND THAT
HOUSE.
BUT HERE IS AN IMPORTANT THING
THAT I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD
REALIZE.
THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THE FIRST
TIME THAT THIS PERSON DID THIS.
AS I EXPLAINED BEFORE, THIS IS
AN ADRENALINE FILLED INCIDENT
WHEN SOMETHING GOES IN AND THEY
KILL, ESPECIALLY WITH A KNIFE,
THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF
ADRENALINE THAT GOES INTO THIS.
TO DO THAT FOUR TIMES IN ONE
EVENT SHOWS THAT THIS PERSON IS
MOST LIKELY NOT DONE THIS
BEFORE.
SO PEOPLE NEED TO REALIZE, THIS
INDIVIDUAL IS PROBABLY ODD.
HE HAS PROBABLY SHOWN SOME TYPE
OF BEHAVIOR THAT PEOPLE THINK IT
STRANGE OR MENACING AND THEY ARE
CLOSE TO THEM.
I WOULD ADVISE PEOPLE IF THEY
KNOW SOMEONE LIKE THIS WHERE
THEY SAW SOMETHING BETWEEN THE
HOURS OF 3:00 AND 7:00 WHEN THE
SUN CAME UP ON THE
13TH OF NOVEMBER, THAT THEY
SHOULD CALL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND
SAY, THIS IS WHAT I SAW IT AND
THIS IS WHERE I SAW IT.
>> Todd: WOULD YOU GO SO FAR
TO SAY THIS INDIVIDUAL IS A
SERIAL KILLER?
>> WELL I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT
WHAT THEY DID, TYPICALLY KILLERS
DON’T RISE TO THIS LEVEL ON
THEIR FIRST SHOT.
SO SOMEBODY IS NOT GOING TO COME
IN AND KILL FOUR PEOPLE IN LESS
IT IS A FAMILY ORIENTED TYPE OF
THING, WHICH THIS WAS NOT.
YOU DO SEE WITH MASS KILLERS AND
PEOPLE ALSO NEED TO REALIZE THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMEBODY WHO
IS IN OVER KILLERS SUCH AS THE
WALMART KILLER WHERE THE PERSON
IN COLORADO THAT SHOT UP A
NIGHTCLUB HERE ARE PEOPLE EXPECT
TO BE SEEN.
IT IS A FIT OF RAGE OR
NARCISSISM OR PSYCHOPATHIC
DOMINANCE.
BUT WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL, THEY
MAY SHARE THAT NARCISSISTIC OR
PSYCHOPATHIC DOMINANTS, BUT THEY
DON’T WANT TO GET CAUGHT.
SO I THINK WHAT WE SEE HERE IS
SOMETHING THAT WAS AN ESCALATION
WITH THIS PERSON HAS PROBABLY
DONE SOMETHING VIOLENT BEFORE,
POTENTIALLY KILLING BEFORE
BECAUSE REMEMBER THEY DON’T START OFF KILLING AND KILLERS
START OFF KILLING AND KILLERS
DON’T NECESSARILY RAPE.
AND THEY HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED
PEOPLE BEFORE AND I WOULD SAY
WITHIN A THREE HOUR TRAVEL
DISTANCE TO MOSCOW, IDAHO, THAT
THIS PERSON PROBABLY LIVES.
>> Carley: JONATHAN, A LOT OF
THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN OUT ABOUT
THIS CASE IN TERMS OF
LAW ENFORCEMENT OR ARE MAKING
STATEMENTS THAT ARE LEADING
PEOPLE TO BELIEVE THAT THEY DO
NO MORE THAN WHAT IS RELEASED TO
THE PUBLIC.
DO YOU THINK THAT IS TRUE, OR AS
OF NOW, THEY ARE STILL
COMPLETELY IN THE DARK?
>> I THINK LAW ENFORCEMENT KNOWS
WHAT THEY KNOW HERE THEY COULD
BE TELLING US LESS BECAUSE
THINGS HAVE QUICKLY GOTTEN OUT
TO THE MEDIA OR IT COULD JUST BE
THE FACT THAT THIS WAS SUCH A
SATURATED CRIME SCENE AND THERE
WERE SO MANY PEOPLE THERE BEFORE
THAT NIGHT.
AND THAT MORNING WHEN PEOPLE
ACTUALLY CALLED OTHER PEOPLE
THAT CAME THERE BEFORE POLICE
EVEN GOT THERE.
I FIND IT TO BE THE ODDEST,
STRANGEST THING I HAVE EVER
HEARD.
SO I THINK THE SITUATION, THIS
CRIME SCENE IS GOING TO TAKE
TIME TO FILTER OUT.
YOU HAVE GOT TO REMEMBER THERE
IS DNA EVERYWHERE, BLOOD
EVERYWHERE SO THINGS ARE GOING
TO BE TAINTED.
IT TAKES A LONG TIME.
I WOULD RATHER SEE THE POLICE
TAKE THEIR TIME AND DILIGENTLY
WORKED THEIR WAY THROUGH THIS
THAN TO SUCCUMB TO PEER PRESSURE
AND TELL PEOPLE IS NO -- THEY
JUST CAN’T GET TO IT OR NOTHING
TO BE WORRIED ABOUT OR MAKE
SOMETHING UP.
I WOULD RATHER SEE THIS DILIGENT
INVESTIGATIVE PROCESS.
>> Todd: IF YOU ARE A CHILD AT
THE UNIVERSITY OF IDAHO, WITH
THAT CHILD BE BACK THE FOLLOWING
THANKSGIVING DAY BREAK?
>> I WOULD BE VERY CAREFUL WITH
THAT UNTIL THEY FIND OUT ANYMORE
INFORMATION RELEASED, BUT I WILL
TELL YOU ONE THING PEOPLE CAN
DO.
I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD GO AND
GET, IT IS A $35 PURCHASE AT
AMAZON.
IT IS A GARAGE -- EXCUSE ME A
DRIVEWAY DETECTOR AND IT COMES
WITH ONE LITTLE THING THAT LOOKS
OUT WITH I THINK IR AND HAS A
MONITOR THAT GOES OFF.
PEOPLE USE THEM ON THEIR
DRIVEWAYS ALL THE TIME.
YOU CAN PUT THAT AT THE FRONT
DOOR OF YOUR BEDROOM AND HAVE
THAT THING IN YOUR ROOM AND BE
PREPARED.
HAVE A BRIGHT FLASHLIGHT, A
BLUNT OBJECT, A PERMIT TO CARRY
AND SORORITY, DON’T GO OUT AND
GET WASTED TO THE POINT WHERE
YOU PASS OUT AND YOU DON’T KNOW
WHAT’S GOING ON WHEN YOU GET
HOME.
I WOULD NOT BUY SIDE AT ALL, BUT
ESPECIALLY UNTIL THEY CATCH YOU
DID THIS.
>> Carley: ABSOLUTELY.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE
LEARNING ABOUT THIS AREA --
GREAT ADVICE, BY THE WAY
THERE -- IT IS NOT
NEW YORK CITY.
WHERE YOU HAVE CRIMES, CAMERAS
ON EVERY CORNER.
IT IS A RULE COLLEGE TOWN AND
THIS AREA IS ONE WHERE THEY HAVE
A LOT OF COLLEGE HOMES SO
THEY DON’T MAKE THERE MAY NOT
HAVE BEEN CAMERAS IN THE AREA,
DELPORT, ANDTHERE ARE SOME INVES
SAYING EVEN IF YOU HAVE
SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT SEEM LIKE
A BIG DEAL, HANDED THEM BECAUSE
WHAT MIGHT NOT BE IN THE FOOTAGE
JUST AS IMPORTANT AS WHAT COULD
BE IN THE FOOTAGE.
SO GREAT ADVICE, GREAT ANALYSIS,
JONATHAN AND THANK YOU FOR
JOINING US HERE >> YOU GOT IT.
I WANT TO SAY ONE AT THE THING,
I WAS A PART OF THE TIMES SQUARE
INVESTIGATION WHERE A BOMBER
DROVE UP ON A BICYCLE AND PUT A
PIPE BOMB ON THE RECRUITING
DEPOT IN TIMES SQUARE IN 2008.
THEY’VE NEVER BEEN CAUGHT.
THEY DROVE ALL OVER
NEW YORK CITY IN A BICYCLE.
THAT TELLS YOU THE REALITY OF
CAMERAS.
>> Carley: IT WILL BE A LONG
INVESTIGATION, HOPEFULLY WITH
THE RIGHT INFORMATION AND