>> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY, WE'RE BACK WITH MSNBC'S ALEX
WAGNER. >> THAT'S ME.
>> Stephen: NOW YOU HAVE HEARD, OBVIOUS LEAST IF THESE
ARE THE DOCUMENTS THAT THE DOJ SAYS THEY ARE, THERE IS NO
EXCUSE FOR HAVING THEM. THE LAW IS PRETTY CLEAR FROM
WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD. BUT HAVE YOU HEARD IN YOUR
REPORTING ANYBODY, ANY ALLY, ANY WATER CARRIER FOR THE FORMER
PRESIDENT EXPLAINING WHY HE WOULD HAVE THEM?
EVEN PUTTING UP A THEORY OF WHY HE WOULD HAVE THEM?
>> I MEAN LISTEN, AGAIN THIS IS THE JUMP INTO THE DARK HOLE THAT
IS DONALD TRUMP MIND CHAMBER AND I'M NOT SURE ANYBODY, I'M NOT
SURE THERE IS A SPECIFIC REASON OTHER THAN THIS GUY A SAY
HOARDER, THIS IS SOMEONE, AND I DON'T MEAN LIKE A CLINICAL
HOARDER BUT YOU KNOW, HE LIKES SQUIRRELING AWAY STUFF HE THINKS
IS INTERESTING, WHETHER ST SHAQUILLE O'NEAL BASKETBALL SHOE
OR LOVE LETTER FROM KIM JUNG-UN, I'M NOT MAKING THUP, THIS IS
REAL STUFF, SOME COULD BE THE IMPULSE OF TAKING MOMENTUM.
HE ALSO HAS RUN HIS BUSINESS LIKE A CRIME SINNED CAT AND
MAYBE THIS WAS LEVERAGE, A WAY FOR HIM TO GET BACK AT POTENTIAL
ENEMIES OR MAYBE LEVERAGE FOR FUTURE BUSINESS DEALINGS.
I MEAN WHO KNOWS, MAYBE IT WAS NONE OF IT BUT THROUGH ALL OF
THIS HE NEVER ANSWERED THE VERY SIMPLE QUESTION, WHY DID YOU
TAKE THE STUFF AND WHY WON'T YOU GIVE IT BACK.
>> Stephen: THE SECOND DUMBEST THING THAT HE DID OTHER THAN
LIKE BY THE WAY YOU HAVE A SPECIAL MASTER HAS TO HAVE
CLEARANCE, IS THE SECOND DUMBEST THING IS TO SAY THAT HE KNEW
THAT IT WAS ORVEG FOR HIM TO HAVE THEM BECAUSE HE
DECLASSIFIED THEM. THAT IS ADMITTING THAT HE KNEW
HE HAD THEM. >> YES.
>> Stephen: SOO THEY NOA HIS STATE OF MIND.
HE KNEW. >> HE KNEW HE HAD THEM.
>> Stephen: HE HAD THESE THINGS.
AND THE MISHANDLING OF DOCUMENTS IS A CRIME FOR WHICH HE CALLED
FOR THE DEATH PENALTY FOR PEOPLE.
>> OH, I MEAN, LOOK, DOT RULE AS PLIE TO HIM?
>> Stephen: I'M NOT SAYING-- I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE DEATH
PENALTY, THAT IS NOT THE CASE I'M NOT SAYING DEATH PENALTY, I
DON'T BELIEVE IN IT. BUT HE SAID THAT ABOUT JULIAN A
SANG AND SNOWDEN. >> FIRST WHEN THE PHOTO CAME OUT
OF THE DOCUMENTS SPLAID OUT ON THE FLOOR, HE DIDN'T SAY I NEVER
HAD THOSE DOCUMENTS. HE SAID I DIDN'T LEAVE THEM IN
THAT CONDITION. I HAD THEM IN-- I HAD THEM IN
CARTONS LIKE I AM NOT MESSY. LIKE THE LAST BIN IN MY SMEU
CLOSET, NICELY STACKED. HE DIDN'T SAY THAT PART BUT HE
DID INSIST HE KEPT THESE RECORDS HE SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD IN THE
FIRST PLACE VERY NEATLY STORED. AND YES, HE COULD VERY WELL, I
MEAN OTHER PEOPLE HAVE GONE TO JAIL FOR THIS.
>> Stephen: SO GIVEN THAT WE DON'T, NO ONE EVER KNOWS WHAT IS
GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWHERE BUT THERE IS A LOT OF, YOU KNOW,
VERY GRAPH EL COVERED VERY NARROW DANGEROUS CLIFFS FORWARD
FOR AMERICA, DOES THAT MAKE YOU MORE OR LESS EXCITED TO HAVE YIR
OWN TELEVISION SHOW. >> YOU NOARKS IF IT IS ALL
ENDING I MIGHT AS WELL BE ON TV TALKING ABOUT IT LIVE, LIKE AS
WE ALL FALL OFF THE CLIFF TOGETHER IT IS AN EXCITING TIME
TO BE A JOURNALIST. IT IS A DISTRESSING TIME TO BE
AN AMERICAN. >> Stephen: WHAT CAN WE EXPECT
AT 9 P.M. ON MSNBC TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY WHAT IS THE ALEX
WAGNER SHOW GOING TO BE LIKE. >> IT IS, WE WILL-- RACHEL
MADDOW HAS DONE AN AMAZES AND IMPORTANT THING IN THAT HOUR AND
I HOPE TO CARRY THROUGH SOME OF THE RIGOR AND INTELLIGENCE AND
THE HUMOR AND THE JOI DEVIVE SHE HAS FOR THE TOPIC THAT IS
SOMETHING I HOPE TO CARRY THREUS THROUGH FRIDAY.
BUT ALSO DIFFERENT STURVETION I WAS ON THE CIRCUS, WILL YOU SEE
STUFF ON THE FIELD, I THINK NEWS HAPPENS OUTSIDE OF THE CORRIDOR
AND I HOPE TO TAKE OUR VIEWERS TO PLACES THEY DON'T OFTEN SEE
AND AT THE CENTER OF THE HEATED DEBATES WE'RE HAVING IN THE
COUNTRY. >> Stephen: ALEX, THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. >> THANK YOU, STEPHEN.
>> Stephen: GOOD TO SEE YOU BEGIN, A
"ALEX WAGNER TONIGHT" AIRS TUESDAYS THROUGH FRIDAYS ON
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