uh...
this uh... this is of the
visibility road two thousand two that essentially um...
hasn't really uh...
i don't know at the predictions or the ah...
uh... what you perceived was happening in terms of the demographics in this
country have now really come into relief and
um... the i'd just want to get your thoughts on
on how
howie what happens from here because it seems that the republican party
uh... as
was completely caught flat-footed in terms of these demographic shifts and
and is all is almost to wed
to the way that they had constructed uh... their majorities in the past
to really uh... mm
to to really changed in any fashion i mean the
um... the the the thing that i A
uh... the analogy that i i i d uh...
the values is this for the red sox uh... before free two thousand four
the the the fan
just wanted to get into the playoffs
all of the uh...
the team could never really have that rebuilding year
that they needed to have because they had to be just good enough to maintain
of the demands of the fantasy in some of the republicans are in that same
situation
they can't really have a rebuilding year
and if they don't they're going to be a permanent of minority and least as far
as uh... you know they can
assuming they can redistricting more than they already have
well let's get back to base offer at the carpet same problem
who incidently after two thousand three and what we did rebuild of our
and anyway yes
that tonight
that's a nice way of thinking about the republicans
by the are army thing i'd i'd say though is that
abhi company
political mistake that the old baba people made in the first two years the
republicans have the house they're going to keep but i think
a lot of this
decade
uh... and they still have a lot of governorship
they still have uh... apace
in the country that sufficient is beaten the beetle
and uh... so they're not
that they're not is in bad shape that they were in the nineteen thirties
but the problem e side is the real one because they're based doesn't permit deb
who will bake the kind of adjustment
that would be necessary to win their dash in election i mean i thought
uh... i i thought layer
summer that romney
would have had a good chance i mean i thought he had a good chance at that
time
if he had turn to this
center high epic at the convention chose and up
op portman instead of ryan
uh... and
www any gift card to the center in about a month but it was really too late and
that you had the forty five percent thing anyway
finish but
blood again i don't think he could do that because
that there would have been affection operate the convention so they risk
their kind they are kind of thought
they are kind of stock but they are not uh... decimated they have a they have a
real basement country
and there's going to get your your sense of on uh... uh... on d
which article freddy krueger
um... the
the the the notion of a grand bargain and the idea of entitlement reform
that that really seems to be um...
the uh... the the monster that will not die and it seems that it's it's not
dying because to zurich sent one out to a certain extent i mean it's on the
white house uh...
uh... website the that offer is continually dangled out there by the
administration for
uh... anybody who would jump at it and then a give me your take on on
the that the politics of that and uh...
div how r cricket about that when you were talking about the media
can't
uh... krugman wrote about this who are are higher
poka at a conference of german and american i've newspaper editors
about
a month ago and uh...
i was just amazed at the extent to which the american editor who were
and earth the big shot newspapers are editorial page editors and editorial
page editors uh...
agreed with that kind of conventional wisdom about
the deficit
an entitlement that we had this terrible problem in our country and neither the
republicans or the democrats will budget
and what we need is the uh... copper might i think
and i think you can't you can't attribute that to uh... manipulation
from but washington is
it comes up to the colleges on back
sure about that ideology is extraordinarily powerful and uh... i
think is
far as the country future it's completely wrong a bad idea
i don't think that the problem are right economy license them in in
deficit better and i don't think it's life and idle
uh... again it's a it's a disturbing problem and i think that the uh...
uh... huh
i worry that the obi-wan people will give you an idea
by the way they they hear gave him a lot during his first term
uh... yeah i mean i don't know if i don't know if the dynamic is that
they're giving you know right simply that they're actually pursuing amin well
you know they
i mean eight week is another one of those um...
elm street ah... scenarios where
uh... the establishment of a
uh...
conventional wisdom is this notion of deficit and debt hysteria i would
i would argue that it's a function of
of of essentially
the administration giving in the on this because they seem to be the ones who are
pursuing it as vigorously as anybody else and then
uh... the republicans can talk in general terms about cutting socially
remarry care but they
the they can't possibly do it on their own
uh... and they need the obama administration the obama administration
to the extent that they are
um... i they are not cable to carry out their agenda
of this so-called entitlement reform
it seems to be just a function of the need to get uh... revenues as some type
of of cover
and that's a poison pill for the republicans
again i don't have any really inside information on this subject uh... i_q_
listen to what the president
that the time to
and i heard him when he said that told the republicans that he didn't think
deficits were problem
by monique feeling about tam is
uh... if they were able to in though
uh... they would present a program in the budget
that did not
contain any significant title route reform that
spent a lot on the infrastructure and uh... definite
for the future and they had packed
that were heavily weighted uh...
boredom toward the wealthy
article baba believe
that he can't get that and then he asked the compromise in order to
prevent a much worse situation uh...
the parents of cut
uh... budget cuts
and and he confided that by agreeing to this
sequester stuff up
uh... year and a half
co organs
up two thousand eleven
so uh... when inadvertent invitation
i mean because we know from uh... gene sperling uh... in his is email to bob
woodward pretty siddig
the uh... the intimidation factor but we know that he
claiming that that was part of the d_n_a_ that is sequestered was too
forces a situation that brought about entitlement reform and increase rather
all i think they thought that that
republicans would be so worried about the military side of it that they've
agreed to a deal
pickle with uh...
i think it was a miscalculation about whole uh...
that whole period with it
just a period of all uh... i think it was the uh...
the at darkness before the dawn in terms that the administration within endpoint
b
the july-august
two thousand eleven they just make terrible mistake
uh... and i think the real life they did a afterwards but the mistake with this
sequester with a a tactical
yes i i act i would certainly agree it was a failure from a tactical standpoint
but i also think that what they were pursuing
uh... with that sequester
was also problematic anaya mag
my sense is that the don is a little hazy
at you and your well that mine
but but
care tasted it's not like they are wedded to the it's worth this kind of
uh... fiscal austerity
they aren't and to the extent that they
seemed to court that it is that of a political desperation rather thin uh...
rats and out of any conviction
at least that's what i
well uh...
uh... i high hope you're right and i hope that it uh... that uh... won't make
any difference if i'm right at the end up making me feel ally my hope is that
it out that lack of conviction
that lack of conviction in some way input kate's their ability to make that
deal but um... and i suspected the haha item
and rather bad at this point on uh... the inability of maynard to to get his
cock is the vote for uh... increase revenues
uh... says the is the saving grace for so security medicare as as is sir
perverse is that sense but
uh... judges real pleasure talking today
thank you so much like talking to you
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