>>> NEW REPORTING FROM THE "WASHINGTON POST" THIS HOUR,
TRUMP REVIVING THE IDEA TO FIRE
JEFF SESSIONS TO GET MORE
CONTROL OVER THE MUELLER PROBE.
EARLIER THIS MORNING YOU CAN SEE
LINDSEY GRAHAM MAY HAVE KNOWN
SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, LOOK AT
HIM TALKING ABOUT THEIR
RELATIONSHIP.
RELATIONSHIP. >> WE NEED AN ATTORNEY GENERAL
THAT CAN WORK WITH THE
PRESIDENT, THAT CAN LEAD THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
THIS RELATIONSHIP IS BEYOND
REPAIR, I THINK.
>> BUT SENATOR GRAHAM, I MEAN,
THE ONLY BEEF THE PRESIDENT
SEEMS TO HAVE AGAINST HIM IS
THAT HE’S NOT GOING TO GET RID
OF THE INVESTIGATION INTO
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
PRESIDENT TRUMP. >> LET ME FINISH THE SECOND
PART.
PART. IT’S MUCH DEEPER THAN THAT.
>> WHAT ELSE?
WHAT ARE WE MISS SNGING?
>> WE WON’T SAY ON THIS SHOW,
BUT IT’S A PRETTY DEEP BREACH.
>> THERE’S A FEDERAL PROSECUTOR
WHO’S SEEN DONALD TRUMP’S
ATTACKS ON THE DOJ LONG BEFORE
THIS FIGHT.
THIS FIGHT. SHE’S LIVE EXCLUSIVELY.
SHE DEPOSED TRUMP ON A DOJ
DISPUTE OVER HOUSING.
EVEN THE TRUMP SHOWED A TOTAL
LACK OF RESPECT FOR PROSECUTORS,
A LANDMARK MOMENT IN HIS RELSAL
ESTATE CAREER, HE CALLED THE
CASE RIDICULOUS.
CASE RIDICULOUS. IT GOT HIM TO ENTER A CONSENT
DECREE, PROMISING HIM NOT TO
DISCRIMINATE AND RENT TO TENANTS
REGARDLESS OF RACE.
JOINING ME IS ELISE GOLDWEBER.
>> HI.
>> HI. >> DID YOU EVER THINK THE PERSON
YOU WERE SUING THEN, TO PREVENT
DISCRIMINATION, WOULD BECOME
PRESIDENT?
PRESIDENT? >> NEVER THAT HE WOULD BECOME
PRESIDENT, NEVER.
PRESIDENT, NEVER. >> WHAT DO YOU SEE IN THE ECHOES
TODAY?
TODAY? >> WELL, IT’S SO MUCH THAT HE’S
SO THE SAME EVEN WHEN HE WAS 27,
28 YEARS OLD.
WE STARTED THE CASE AND HE WAS
REPRESENTED BY ROY COHN FROM THE
ARMY McCARTHY HEARINGS.
THAT WAS HIS ATTORNEY.
THE FIRST THING THEY DID WAS THE
SUE THE GOVERNMENT, THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT FOR $100 MILLION.
YOU CAN’T SUE THE GOVERNMENT FOR
$100 MILLION.
$100 MILLION. AND IT WAS VERY -- YOU KNOW,
VERY EXCITING.
VERY EXCITING. WE HAD A BIG DEVELOPER, NOT SO
MUCH DONALD, MORE HIS FATHER,
WHO OWNED WHAT WAS CALLED TRUMP
VILLAGE IN BROOKLYN, WHICH WAS A
HUGE HOUSING UNIT.
AND BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENED AT
TRUMP VILLAGE IS THAT IF A
PERSON OF COLOR CAME TO LOOK FOR
AN APARTMENT THEY WOULD BE TOLD
THERE WERE NO APARTMENTS
AVAILABLE AND A FAIR HOUSING
GROUP HAD SET UP A GROUP OF
TESTERS, WHITE AND PEOPLE OF
COLOR TO COME IN.
AND THE WHITE PEOPLE WERE
OFFERED APARTMENTS, THE PEOPLE
OF COLOR WERE TOLD THERE WERE NO
VACANCIES, OR THAT THEY COULD GO
AND LOOK AT APARTMENTS AT PATIO
GARDENS WHICH WAS IN A
NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS A
NEIGHBORHOOD OF COLOR.
>> SO WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU
ACHIEVED THROUGH THAT SUIT?
IN A SENSE THE DECREE MEANS THE
DOJ WON.
DOJ WON. BUT HE ALSO LEARNED THAT IT DOES
PAY TO FIGHT BACK REALLY HARD IF
YOU HAVE NO SCRUPLES.
>> WELL, I DON’T THINK IT PAID
FOR HIM SO MUCH.
IT BECAME THE LARGEST CONSENT
DECREE FOR ANY HOUSING
DISCRIMINATOR IN THE COUNTRY.
WE TRIED TO BRING CASES ALL
ACROSS THE COUNTRY FOR HOUSING
DISCRIMINATION.
DISCRIMINATION. SO HE ALWAYS PUT IT DOWN AND
SAID IT WAS, YOU KNOW, NOTHING.
BUT IT DID CHANGE THE WAY THEY
COULD RENT APARTMENTS AT TRUMP
VILLAGE AND AT OTHER BUILDINGS
IN BROOKLYN.
IN BROOKLYN. >> I WANT TO READ FROM SOMETHING
THAT TRUMP’S TEAM SAID ABOUT THE
LAWYER WHO ULTIMATELY REPLACED
YOU.
YOU. MS. GOLDWEBER WAS REPLACED BY
DONNA GOLD STEIN, AND IT WAS
TURNED INTO A GESTAPPO
INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. WHAT DID THOSE TACTICS MEAN IN
NEW YORK?
NEW YORK? YOU WOULDN’T THINK THAT’S A WAY
TO ENDEAR YOURSELF TO THIS CITY.
>> NO, NO, AND IT WAS A REALLY
TERRIBLE THING.
TERRIBLE THING. AND THERE WAS A HEARING IN COURT
WHERE MS. GOLDSTEIN TESTIFIED
AND THEY SAID -- THE JUDGE FOUND
THAT THERE WAS NO BAD
INTERROGATION TECHNIQUES.
INTERROGATION TECHNIQUES. AND EVERYTHING THAT HE SAID WAS
NOT TRUE.
NOT TRUE. HE TRIED TO MAKE THAT ATTACK
AGAINST HER.
AGAINST HER. >> DO YOU THINK HE WILL
ULTIMATELY TRY TO FIRE JEFF
SESSIONS, AND DO YOU THINK HE’LL
SERVE OUT A FULL TERM?
>> I DON’T THINK HE’LL SERVE OUT
A FULL TERM.
BUT I DON’T KNOW WHAT’S GOING TO
HAPPEN AFTER THE MIDTERM
ELECTIONS.
ELECTIONS. AND IF HE CAN, HE WILL.
>> BUT YOU SEE HIM AS THE SAME
RAM
RAM RAMBUNCTIOUS 28-YEAR-OLD?
RAMBUNCTIOUS 28-YEAR-OLD? >> THAT’S WHAT’S SO JARRING.