There's no easy way to say this, but your baby has a catastrophic brain abnormality.
>> What does that mean?
>> It means that parts of her brain didn't form,
your daughter if she is to survive, will live only a matter of hours after birth.
During that time she will experience a multitude of seizures and
ultimately aspirate on her own bodily fluids.
She will suffer.
A decision will need to be made on termination.
I wish I could tell you what to do, but
there's only one person who can make this choice.
>> How much time do it.
>> And that person is Greg.
>> Greg?
>> Is Greg, yeah, let me just give him a call.
Hey Greg, Dr. Robinson here.
>> What you just saw was a new add by mothers against Greg.
Greg Abbott pack and it's quite a doozy because it shows what the real
situation is in the state of Texas where abortions have been banned,
where abortion providers are terrified to provide care to women.
In the case of something like a miscarriage, for instance, and
there are already stories to share with you involving real women who have suffered
the consequences and will outline them for you in just a moment.
But it's important to keep in mind that the ad is not in any way hyperbole.
It's not an exaggeration what we're seeing in red states across the country,
including in Texas is an effort and
also the execution of policies that put politicians.
Particularly white conservative males between women and their doctors.
And I want to outline one particular story that was covered in the New York Times
about a 35 year old woman named Amanda.
Amanda and her husband want to have children.
They tried and unfortunately she miscarried not once but twice,
but her two miscarriages lead to different experiences.
Thanks to what the policies were in Texas at the time.
Now, before abortion was banned in Texas, she and her husband tried to get pregnant.
She did get pregnant and within her first trimester unfortunately,
she was saddened to learn that she suffered a miscarriage.
The fetus did not have a heartbeat.
She was miscarrying and in order to ensure that she doesn't hemorrhage from it or
have some sort of infection as a result of that non-viable
fetal tissue the hospital offered to do a surgical procedure.
That's the same surgical procedure that's done during a regular first
trimester abortion.
At a large hospital, a doctor performed a surgical procedure often used as a safe
and quick method to remove tissue from a failed pregnancy.
She awoke from anesthesia to find a card signed by the nurses and
a little pink and blue bracelet with a butterfly charm,
a gift from the hospital to express compassion for her loss.
It was so sweet because it's such a hard thing to go through, Amanda said now,
eight months later, unfortunately she suffered another miscarriage.
Remember she and her husband desperately want to have children.
But by the time she had her second miscarriage laws had changed in Texas and
the same facility that she went to for
care denied her the care that she had previously received.
So she said she went to the same hospital, Baylor Scott and White Medical Center,
doubled over in pain and screaming as she passed a large blood clot.
But when she requested the same surgical evacuation procedure called dilation and
curettage or DNC she said the hospital told
her no a DNC is the same procedure used for some abortions.
Now they were terrified that if they actually did this even
though they're dealing with a miscarriage that the state would come after them.
And the way that it would work is of course some private citizen can report
this facility and the doctors that provide the care could get into a lot of trouble.
The hospital sent her home according to the New York Times,
with instructions to return only, only if she was bleeding so
excessively that her blood filled a diaper more than once an hour.
Hospital records, I'm sorry hospital records that Amanda shared with
the New York Times noted that her embryo had no
cardiac activity during the visit and on an ultrasound a week earlier.
She reports having a lot of pain and she appears distressed, the records said.
Amanda said she sat on the toilet digging fingernail marks in my wall from the pain.
She then moved to the bathtub where her husband held her hand as they both cried.
The bathtub water is just dark red Amanda recalled.
For 48 hours it was like a constant heavy bleed and big clots,
in other words, because she was denied the care that she needed.
She could have very easily died.
And the experience was so dangerous and so traumatic that she and
her husband have now decided that they will stop trying to get pregnant.
Because they don't wanna go through the dangerous scenario of
having a miscarriage in the state of Texas again.
And again, I'm giving you guys that very gruesome, graphic detailed story
because what the add that we showed you earlier depicted is not hyperbole.
It is not an exaggeration.
This is now a reality for women across the country.
Thanks to individuals who lie to you and tell you that they care about
protecting life, when in reality, as we know, it's all about control.
It's all about forcing policy like forcing women to do what male politicians
want them to do, or what religious leaders think they should do.
Essentially people who have nothing to do with this woman, Amanda getting them
between her and her doctors, that is what's happening in Texas and
many other red states across this country right now.
And if you think it's just gonna be Red States and Red States alone,
you'd be mistaken.
They're focusing on making this federal law, I'll get to that in just a moment.
But Faron I'd like you to jump in and share your perspective, especially as
someone from Florida, where Ron DeSantis wants to pass similar legislation.
>> Yeah, I mean, it's horrific.
And honestly, it's kind of shocking that we don't already have women that have
died from this.
We know it's coming, we know it will eventually happen.
That we will have women in this country who will die
because you have these conservative men and unfortunately,
too many conservative women as well who don't even understand medical science.
They don't understand basic human biology.
They don't know anything about the human body, really.
And they're passing these laws to regulate it,
which will be a death sentence for far too many women in this country.
The horror stories, like the one you just told.
That's one of several that have been making the headlines in just the last
week, that we have seen.
Women forced to carry dead fetuses for weeks because
they cannot get a doctor to remove it from their bodies.
That is dangerous.
I mean, I have family members that have gone through miscarriages.
I have family members that have given birth to stillborn babies.
It is a horrifying experience, but they were able to immediately get
medical care because at the time we didn't have these laws in place here.
They went to the hospital, they got everything, fixed to the degree they had.
Obviously you're still dealing with the emotional trauma from that and what I'm
thinking here, as somebody who's seen the emotional damage this does to individuals.
How much more is that emotional damage amplified when a woman has to then
live with it, live with the pain, live with the dead fetus in the body for weeks?
I mean, we're talking about psychological damage that likely will not be
repaired for these women, and that's another thing that nobody's talking about.
Either the psychological part of what this is doing to the women,
going through these horrific stories here.
>> Well look, this is my opinion, but
I don't think that the psychological damage that women are are facing now and
will continue to face in coming years is the bug.
It's the feature, I think this is part of certain individuals with certain political
views wanting to be able to control women regardless of what they go through,
both physically and psychologically.
And what I find really fascinating about all of these stories that are coming out,
including the story of the ten year old girl who was raped and
got pregnant as a result of that rape in Ohio.
You see these right wingers who have defended anti-abortion policies run away
from those anecdotes run away from those stories.
Wanna deny that those stories exist.
And my question is why do they wanna deny it?
Aren't they proud of what they've been touting what they've been fighting for for
decades?
I mean, in their minds a ten year old who gets
pregnant as a result of rape should be forced to have her rapist baby.
That is what they believe.
That's why many of these red states have banned abortion even in the case of rape.
So if you are going to tout that kind of policy, you should be able to defend it.
You should be willing to stand by those policies,
even if there's a gruesome story involving a ten year old who got raped.
Even if we're talking about a 35 year old woman who nearly died as a result of her
miscarriage and was denied care when she desperately needed it.
You should be able to defend that.
But they're unwilling to, they immediately deflect and
they immediately go to the place of this isn't real.
This isn't happening, but it's very much real.
And if you think that conservatives in this country will just stop at allowing
red states to ban abortion, you'd be mistaken.
In fact, here is former Vice President Mike Pence, someone that people
wrongly referred to as a hero when he did the bare minimum on January six.
Telling us what he plans to do.
>> Now, it falls to this generation to take the case for life to every state and
every state house in America.
Our freedom agenda calls for
advancing pro-life protections in every state in the union, every single one.
We call for expanding support for women in crisis pregnancies to support
the unborn and to support the newborn with equal American generosity.
And finally we call for ending all taxpayer funding of abortion and
defunding planned parenthood once and for all.
>> Now let's not forget that planned parenthood provides primary health care to
men and women across the country,
especially in rural areas that don't have hospitals.
But the final question for you Faron thoughts on Mike Pence using
the word freedom in the context of controlling women's bodies.
>> Yeah, it's the I don't wanna make a comparison to 1984, but
I almost feel like I should.
But they use words to mean the opposite of what they actually mean here and
is American generosity is the phrase that really kind of stuck out to me.
Like what the heck does that even mean?
Where in America are we being generous with anything right now?
I mean from the economy to degree inflation to the rights that were
stripping away, like we are becoming a hugely oppressive country,
financially environmentally were oppressive with these rights.
And Mike Pence is up there with all of this confidence with all of
this bravado riding on this big wave of he was so great in January 6th,
I can't wait to see what he does next.
He is a monster.
>> Yep. >> He is the same kind of monster that
Donald Trump is or that Rhonda Santis is or that Greg Abbott is,
he's just in a different wrapper,
he is the same horrible candy filling that the rest of them are.
And right now, I think there's at least six different pieces of legislation
in the house that republicans have written that would in one way or
another ban abortion on the federal level.
They have made it clear when they take back the house,
they're gonna start pushing these things.
That's why they have these drafts ready.
There's the bill in the north Carolina state House that would make it legal for
you to kill another person that performs an abortion or
a woman who takes a plan B pill.
That that piece of legislation has been stalled in committee in the north Carolina
state House for a year, but it still exists written by republicans that they're
so pro life will literally kill you if you try to end the pregnancy.
It's it's nuts.
But that's where we are.
We we have to deal with the nuts because they are pushing us further and
further here.
No, we don't have to deal with the nuts.
We have to defeat them.
We have to fight aggressively.
We have to stay focused on accomplishing what we need to accomplish and
not get distracted by other garbage.
What they've done is effective because they were strategic
about dismantling reproductive rights pretty soon.
I have no doubt that they'll have the Supreme Court dismantle other rights that
were previously granted to americans by a previous Supreme Court that wasn't
ideologically driven and wasn't extremely right wing, but make no mistake about it.
They're not done.
And there terrible policies will not stop at stripping women of their rights.
They want to force theocratic rule on the rest of us.
And it's not because they even believe in that theology,
it's not because they want to protect anyone's life.
I mean, come on, remember George,
George Tiller who was an abortion provider, an abortion doctor.
He was murdered by a pro life activist slash murderer slash terrorist.
Like that's that is what we have seen in this country and we have to fight back.
We have to stay focused on this issue and many others,
otherwise they're going to run rough shot and they're going to dismantle all
the freedoms that we've appreciated and enjoyed in this country.