TODAY‘S CONFIRMATION HEARING
TODAY‘S CONFIRMATION HEARING OF JUDGE CATAN, G. BROWN
TODAY‘S CONFIRMATION HEARING OF JUDGE CATAN, G. BROWN JACKSON IS MORE THAN JUST
OF JUDGE CATAN, G. BROWN JACKSON IS MORE THAN JUST A MOMENT IN HISTORY.
JACKSON IS MORE THAN JUST A MOMENT IN HISTORY. IT‘S A MOMENT FOR LITTLE BLACK
A MOMENT IN HISTORY. IT‘S A MOMENT FOR LITTLE BLACK GIRLS TO LOOK UP AT THEIR TV
IT‘S A MOMENT FOR LITTLE BLACK GIRLS TO LOOK UP AT THEIR TV SCREENS AND SEE THIS
GIRLS TO LOOK UP AT THEIR TV SCREENS AND SEE THIS EXTREMELY QUALIFIED.
SCREENS AND SEE THIS EXTREMELY QUALIFIED. BLACK WOMAN WITH GLASSES,
EXTREMELY QUALIFIED. BLACK WOMAN WITH GLASSES, ROCKING LOCKS,
BLACK WOMAN WITH GLASSES, ROCKING LOCKS, AND SEE THEMSELVES
ROCKING LOCKS, AND SEE THEMSELVES THE HEARING COMES JUST DAYS
AND SEE THEMSELVES THE HEARING COMES JUST DAYS AFTER THE HOUSE PASSED,
THE HEARING COMES JUST DAYS AFTER THE HOUSE PASSED, THE CROWN ACT WHICH WOULD BAN
AFTER THE HOUSE PASSED, THE CROWN ACT WHICH WOULD BAN DISCRIMINATION
THE CROWN ACT WHICH WOULD BAN DISCRIMINATION AGAINST TRADITIONAL.
DISCRIMINATION AGAINST TRADITIONAL. A CERTIFICATE ETHNICALLY BASED
AGAINST TRADITIONAL. A CERTIFICATE ETHNICALLY BASED HAIRSTYLES LIKE JUDGE,
A CERTIFICATE ETHNICALLY BASED HAIRSTYLES LIKE JUDGE, JACKSON‘S LOCKS,
HAIRSTYLES LIKE JUDGE, JACKSON‘S LOCKS, HAIRSTYLE. THAT HAS A LOT.
JACKSON‘S LOCKS, HAIRSTYLE. THAT HAS A LOT. HISTORY
HAIRSTYLE. THAT HAS A LOT. HISTORY OF BEING DEEMED AS
HISTORY OF BEING DEEMED AS UNPROFESSIONAL.
OF BEING DEEMED AS UNPROFESSIONAL. AND NOW IS BEING SEEN
UNPROFESSIONAL. AND NOW IS BEING SEEN ON THE WOMAN WHO
AND NOW IS BEING SEEN ON THE WOMAN WHO WILL LIKELY BE OUR NEXT
ON THE WOMAN WHO WILL LIKELY BE OUR NEXT SUPREME COURT JUSTICE.
WILL LIKELY BE OUR NEXT SUPREME COURT JUSTICE. JOINING ME NOW IS ROBIN
SUPREME COURT JUSTICE. JOINING ME NOW IS ROBIN DAUGHTRY CHAIR OF THE
JOINING ME NOW IS ROBIN DAUGHTRY CHAIR OF THE SOCIOLOGY DEPARTMENT AT
DAUGHTRY CHAIR OF THE SOCIOLOGY DEPARTMENT AT WESLEYAN UNIVERSITY AND
SOCIOLOGY DEPARTMENT AT WESLEYAN UNIVERSITY AND PROFESSOR IN YOUR THINK.
WESLEYAN UNIVERSITY AND PROFESSOR IN YOUR THINK. PIECE FOR NBC,
PROFESSOR IN YOUR THINK. PIECE FOR NBC, THINK YOU WRITE THE HISTORY OF
PIECE FOR NBC, THINK YOU WRITE THE HISTORY OF DREADLOCKS IN PARTICULAR,
THINK YOU WRITE THE HISTORY OF DREADLOCKS IN PARTICULAR, COMMUNICATES, THIS LEGACY,
DREADLOCKS IN PARTICULAR, COMMUNICATES, THIS LEGACY, THE NAME,
COMMUNICATES, THIS LEGACY, THE NAME, DATES TO BRITISH
THE NAME, DATES TO BRITISH COLONISTS
DATES TO BRITISH COLONISTS DISTASTE FOR
COLONISTS DISTASTE FOR FOR THE MATTED HAIR OF
DISTASTE FOR FOR THE MATTED HAIR OF KENAN WARRIORS, WHICH THEY
FOR THE MATTED HAIR OF KENAN WARRIORS, WHICH THEY DESCRIBED AS NASTY AND
KENAN WARRIORS, WHICH THEY DESCRIBED AS NASTY AND DREADFUL THAT ORIGIN
DESCRIBED AS NASTY AND DREADFUL THAT ORIGIN EXPLAINS. WHY? SOME PREFER THE
DREADFUL THAT ORIGIN EXPLAINS. WHY? SOME PREFER THE WORD
EXPLAINS. WHY? SOME PREFER THE WORD LOCKS OVER DREADLOCKS AND I
WORD LOCKS OVER DREADLOCKS AND I LOVE THIS BECAUSE MY MOTHER
LOCKS OVER DREADLOCKS AND I LOVE THIS BECAUSE MY MOTHER FOR MANY YEARS, MAYBE LIKE 20
LOVE THIS BECAUSE MY MOTHER FOR MANY YEARS, MAYBE LIKE 20 YEARS HAS HAD LOCKS AND SHE
FOR MANY YEARS, MAYBE LIKE 20 YEARS HAS HAD LOCKS AND SHE WOULD ALWAYS ALWAYS
YEARS HAS HAD LOCKS AND SHE WOULD ALWAYS ALWAYS CORRECT PEOPLE WHO CAME UP TO
WOULD ALWAYS ALWAYS CORRECT PEOPLE WHO CAME UP TO HER AND USE THE TERM
CORRECT PEOPLE WHO CAME UP TO HER AND USE THE TERM DREADLOCKS. I MEAN,
HER AND USE THE TERM DREADLOCKS. I MEAN, SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT HER
DREADLOCKS. I MEAN, SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT HER CHOICE OF
SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT HER CHOICE OF LOCKS AND WHY IT‘S IMPORTANT
CHOICE OF LOCKS AND WHY IT‘S IMPORTANT TO USE THE RIGHT TERM.
HAVE LOTS FOR MANY YEARS AND
HAVE LOTS FOR MANY YEARS AND WAS VERY ADAMANT ABOUT
HAVE LOTS FOR MANY YEARS AND WAS VERY ADAMANT ABOUT CALLING THEM LOCKS RATHER THAN
WAS VERY ADAMANT ABOUT CALLING THEM LOCKS RATHER THAN DREADS OR DREADLOCKS.
CALLING THEM LOCKS RATHER THAN DREADS OR DREADLOCKS. SO, YEAH, DREADLOCKS HAVE THIS
DREADS OR DREADLOCKS. SO, YEAH, DREADLOCKS HAVE THIS LONG HISTORY OF BEING
SO, YEAH, DREADLOCKS HAVE THIS LONG HISTORY OF BEING STIGMATIZED
LONG HISTORY OF BEING STIGMATIZED OF BEING TREATED AS SOMEHOW.
STIGMATIZED OF BEING TREATED AS SOMEHOW. UNCLEAN
OF BEING TREATED AS SOMEHOW. UNCLEAN DIRTY
UNCLEAN DIRTY IN SOME WAY.
DIRTY IN SOME WAY. SO YES, THIS IS A
IN SOME WAY. SO YES, THIS IS A REVOLUTIONARY MOMENT IN THAT
SO YES, THIS IS A REVOLUTIONARY MOMENT IN THAT SENSE, BUT
REVOLUTIONARY MOMENT IN THAT SENSE, BUT JACKSON‘S
SENSE, BUT JACKSON‘S LOCKS IN PARTICULAR, ARE A
JACKSON‘S LOCKS IN PARTICULAR, ARE A STYLE CALLED SISTER
LOCKS IN PARTICULAR, ARE A STYLE CALLED SISTER LOCKS.
STYLE CALLED SISTER LOCKS. WHICH WERE CREATED BY
LOCKS. WHICH WERE CREATED BY JOANNE CORNWELL AND IT‘S A,
WHICH WERE CREATED BY JOANNE CORNWELL AND IT‘S A, IT‘S A DIFFERENT TECHNIQUE
JOANNE CORNWELL AND IT‘S A, IT‘S A DIFFERENT TECHNIQUE THAT‘S USED TO CREATE THEM.
IT‘S A DIFFERENT TECHNIQUE THAT‘S USED TO CREATE THEM. IT HAS A SIMILAR
THAT‘S USED TO CREATE THEM. IT HAS A SIMILAR APPEARANCE THAT WE MIGHT BE
IT HAS A SIMILAR APPEARANCE THAT WE MIGHT BE USED TO, FROM MORE TRADITIONAL
APPEARANCE THAT WE MIGHT BE USED TO, FROM MORE TRADITIONAL SORTS OF DREADLOCKS, BUT IT IS
USED TO, FROM MORE TRADITIONAL SORTS OF DREADLOCKS, BUT IT IS A PARTICULAR TECHNIQUE IN A
SORTS OF DREADLOCKS, BUT IT IS A PARTICULAR TECHNIQUE IN A PARTICULAR STYLE. AND ONE
A PARTICULAR TECHNIQUE IN A PARTICULAR STYLE. AND ONE THING THAT STANDS OUT ABOUT
PARTICULAR STYLE. AND ONE THING THAT STANDS OUT ABOUT THIS STYLE TO ME. IS THAT
THING THAT STANDS OUT ABOUT THIS STYLE TO ME. IS THAT AS FAR AS NATURAL
THIS STYLE TO ME. IS THAT AS FAR AS NATURAL HAIRSTYLES GO, IT‘S KIND OF
AS FAR AS NATURAL HAIRSTYLES GO, IT‘S KIND OF EXPENSIVE
HAIRSTYLES GO, IT‘S KIND OF EXPENSIVE IN TERMS OF HOW TO GET IT
EXPENSIVE IN TERMS OF HOW TO GET IT STARTED AND THEN HOW TO
IN TERMS OF HOW TO GET IT STARTED AND THEN HOW TO MAINTAIN IT IN THERE AREN‘T AS
STARTED AND THEN HOW TO MAINTAIN IT IN THERE AREN‘T AS MANY
MAINTAIN IT IN THERE AREN‘T AS MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE TRAINED
MAINTAINING IT FOR HELPING YOU
MAINTAINING IT FOR HELPING YOU TO MAINTAIN IT. SO IT‘S A
MAINTAINING IT FOR HELPING YOU TO MAINTAIN IT. SO IT‘S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN
TO MAINTAIN IT. SO IT‘S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN TYPES OF DREADLOCKS AND
LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN TYPES OF DREADLOCKS AND OTHER NATURAL HAIRSTYLES,
TYPES OF DREADLOCKS AND OTHER NATURAL HAIRSTYLES, TOO.
OTHER NATURAL HAIRSTYLES, TOO. IT‘S SO TRUE. AND I RIGHT
TOO. IT‘S SO TRUE. AND I RIGHT NOW MY MOTHER HAS SISTER
IT‘S SO TRUE. AND I RIGHT NOW MY MOTHER HAS SISTER LOCKS. AND SO WHEN I SEE JUST
NOW MY MOTHER HAS SISTER LOCKS. AND SO WHEN I SEE JUST JACKSON, I SEE MY OWN MOTHER
LOCKS. AND SO WHEN I SEE JUST JACKSON, I SEE MY OWN MOTHER REFLECTED BACK AT ME
JACKSON, I SEE MY OWN MOTHER REFLECTED BACK AT ME DOES JUDGE JACKSON‘S HAIR?
REFLECTED BACK AT ME DOES JUDGE JACKSON‘S HAIR? HELP.
DOES JUDGE JACKSON‘S HAIR? HELP. NORMALIZE NATURAL
HELP. NORMALIZE NATURAL HAIRSTYLES IN CORPORATE AND
NORMALIZE NATURAL HAIRSTYLES IN CORPORATE AND WORKPLACE SETTINGS, WHICH IS A
HAIRSTYLES IN CORPORATE AND WORKPLACE SETTINGS, WHICH IS A HUGE DEAL. I MEAN, WE JUST HAD
WORKPLACE SETTINGS, WHICH IS A HUGE DEAL. I MEAN, WE JUST HAD THE CROWN
HUGE DEAL. I MEAN, WE JUST HAD THE CROWN ACT
THE CROWN ACT PASS, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS NEEDS
ACT PASS, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS NEEDS TO BE
PASS, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS NEEDS TO BE LIKE, STOP ASKING ME ABOUT
TO BE LIKE, STOP ASKING ME ABOUT MY HAIR, HOW IT GOES ON MY
LIKE, STOP ASKING ME ABOUT MY HAIR, HOW IT GOES ON MY HEAD, AND HOW I CHOOSE TO WEAR
MY HAIR, HOW IT GOES ON MY HEAD, AND HOW I CHOOSE TO WEAR IT,
HEAD, AND HOW I CHOOSE TO WEAR IT, PLEASE.
IT, PLEASE. DEFINITELY.
PLEASE. DEFINITELY. I THINK THAT A LOT OF US THE
DEFINITELY. I THINK THAT A LOT OF US THE WAY YOU START THIS SEGMENT
I THINK THAT A LOT OF US THE WAY YOU START THIS SEGMENT THINKING ABOUT WHAT YOUNG
WAY YOU START THIS SEGMENT THINKING ABOUT WHAT YOUNG BLACK GIRLS AND WOMEN
THINKING ABOUT WHAT YOUNG BLACK GIRLS AND WOMEN WATCHING
BLACK GIRLS AND WOMEN WATCHING THIS THESE HEARINGS AND
WATCHING THIS THESE HEARINGS AND LOOKING AT THE NOMINATION THAT
THIS THESE HEARINGS AND LOOKING AT THE NOMINATION THAT HAPPENED EARLIER AND THINK,
LOOKING AT THE NOMINATION THAT HAPPENED EARLIER AND THINK, AND BEING ABLE TO SEE
HAPPENED EARLIER AND THINK, AND BEING ABLE TO SEE THEMSELVES IN HER, LIKE,
AND BEING ABLE TO SEE THEMSELVES IN HER, LIKE, THAT‘S PRETTY
THEMSELVES IN HER, LIKE, THAT‘S PRETTY TRANSFORMATIVE IN AND OF
THAT‘S PRETTY TRANSFORMATIVE IN AND OF ITSELF TO BE ABLE TO SEE
TRANSFORMATIVE IN AND OF ITSELF TO BE ABLE TO SEE YOURSELF
ITSELF TO BE ABLE TO SEE YOURSELF IN SOMEONE IN THIS SORT OF
YOURSELF IN SOMEONE IN THIS SORT OF POSITION TO BE ABLE TO SEE
IN SOMEONE IN THIS SORT OF POSITION TO BE ABLE TO SEE YOUR SISTER OR YOUR MOTHER.
POSITION TO BE ABLE TO SEE YOUR SISTER OR YOUR MOTHER. IN IN THAT POSITION.
YOUR SISTER OR YOUR MOTHER. IN IN THAT POSITION. SO, YEAH.
IN IN THAT POSITION. SO, YEAH. YES, I DO THINK THAT
SO, YEAH. YES, I DO THINK THAT THIS SORT OF MOMENT
YES, I DO THINK THAT THIS SORT OF MOMENT GOES A LONG WAY
THIS SORT OF MOMENT GOES A LONG WAY TO NORMALIZE A LOOK,
GOES A LONG WAY TO NORMALIZE A LOOK, TO SAY
TO NORMALIZE A LOOK, TO SAY LOOK. DON‘T BE SURPRISED WHEN
TO SAY LOOK. DON‘T BE SURPRISED WHEN YOU SEE ME AT THE DEPARTMENT
LOOK. DON‘T BE SURPRISED WHEN YOU SEE ME AT THE DEPARTMENT MEETING OR THE BOARD MEETING,
YOU SEE ME AT THE DEPARTMENT MEETING OR THE BOARD MEETING, OR SHOWING UP FOR AN INTERVIEW
MEETING OR THE BOARD MEETING, OR SHOWING UP FOR AN INTERVIEW THAT THIS ISN‘T REALLY
OR SHOWING UP FOR AN INTERVIEW THAT THIS ISN‘T REALLY A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION.
THAT THIS ISN‘T REALLY A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION. LET ALONE A POINT OF
A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION. LET ALONE A POINT OF CONTENTION, IN TERMS OF
LET ALONE A POINT OF CONTENTION, IN TERMS OF WHETHER I‘LL BE HIRED OR
CONTENTION, IN TERMS OF WHETHER I‘LL BE HIRED OR WHETHER I‘LL BE PROMOTED.
WHETHER I‘LL BE HIRED OR WHETHER I‘LL BE PROMOTED. I THINK THIS IS A CRITICAL
WHETHER I‘LL BE PROMOTED. I THINK THIS IS A CRITICAL MOMENT OF CRITICAL STATEMENT
I THINK THIS IS A CRITICAL MOMENT OF CRITICAL STATEMENT IN THAT
MOMENT OF CRITICAL STATEMENT IN THAT REGARD.
IN THAT REGARD. IT‘S SO SO TRUE, BECAUSE IN
REGARD. IT‘S SO SO TRUE, BECAUSE IN THE LAW IN PARTICULAR, I
IT‘S SO SO TRUE, BECAUSE IN THE LAW IN PARTICULAR, I REMEMBER LEARNING A SPECIFIC
THE LAW IN PARTICULAR, I REMEMBER LEARNING A SPECIFIC RULE
REMEMBER LEARNING A SPECIFIC RULE WHEN YOU GO FOR A JOB
RULE WHEN YOU GO FOR A JOB INTERVIEW.
WHEN YOU GO FOR A JOB INTERVIEW. YOU HAVE TO WEAR A BLUE SUIT
INTERVIEW. YOU HAVE TO WEAR A BLUE SUIT OR A BLACK SUIT AND YOU SHOULD
YOU HAVE TO WEAR A BLUE SUIT OR A BLACK SUIT AND YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR HAIR UP
OR A BLACK SUIT AND YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR HAIR UP IN A VERY NEAT STYLE.
HAVE YOUR HAIR UP IN A VERY NEAT STYLE. I MEAN THIS IS
IN A VERY NEAT STYLE. I MEAN THIS IS DIRECTIONS, LITERALLY THAT I
I MEAN THIS IS DIRECTIONS, LITERALLY THAT I GOT AND IT WASN‘T LIKE I
DIRECTIONS, LITERALLY THAT I GOT AND IT WASN‘T LIKE I GRADUATED A LONG TIME AGO.
GOT AND IT WASN‘T LIKE I GRADUATED A LONG TIME AGO. THIS IS
GRADUATED A LONG TIME AGO. THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT THING.
THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT THING. THERE‘S ALSO A LONG-STANDING
A REALLY IMPORTANT THING. THERE‘S ALSO A LONG-STANDING TRADITION
THERE‘S ALSO A LONG-STANDING TRADITION OF JUDGES APPEARING A VERY
TRADITION OF JUDGES APPEARING A VERY PARTICULAR WAY.
OF JUDGES APPEARING A VERY PARTICULAR WAY. BLACK ROBES. DRESS SHOES
PARTICULAR WAY. BLACK ROBES. DRESS SHOES COLORS
BLACK ROBES. DRESS SHOES COLORS MEAN
COLORS MEAN DOES THIS MOMENT MEAN FOR
MEAN DOES THIS MOMENT MEAN FOR YOUNG WOMEN AND GIRLS OF COLOR
DOES THIS MOMENT MEAN FOR YOUNG WOMEN AND GIRLS OF COLOR WHO ROCKED THEIR NATURAL
YOUNG WOMEN AND GIRLS OF COLOR WHO ROCKED THEIR NATURAL HAIR?
WHO ROCKED THEIR NATURAL HAIR? THAT THEY CAN SEE
HAIR? THAT THEY CAN SEE SOMEBODY REALLY BEING THEIR
THAT THEY CAN SEE SOMEBODY REALLY BEING THEIR TRUE AUTHENTIC SELF. EVEN AS
SOMEBODY REALLY BEING THEIR TRUE AUTHENTIC SELF. EVEN AS THEY, I MEAN, THE FACT THAT
TRUE AUTHENTIC SELF. EVEN AS THEY, I MEAN, THE FACT THAT SHE WAS WEARING
THEY, I MEAN, THE FACT THAT SHE WAS WEARING COBALT TODAY, WHICH I SEE THAT
SHE WAS WEARING COBALT TODAY, WHICH I SEE THAT YOU‘RE ALSO WEARING.
COBALT TODAY, WHICH I SEE THAT YOU‘RE ALSO WEARING. YOU KNOW, THAT ALSO STOOD OUT
YOU‘RE ALSO WEARING. YOU KNOW, THAT ALSO STOOD OUT TO ME
YOU KNOW, THAT ALSO STOOD OUT TO ME AS SOMETHING THAT
TO ME AS SOMETHING THAT WAS IMPORTANT AS WELL.
AS SOMETHING THAT WAS IMPORTANT AS WELL. YEAH. IT IS IMPORTANT AND THAT
WAS IMPORTANT AS WELL. YEAH. IT IS IMPORTANT AND THAT IMAGE JUST SAYS, SO MUCH
YEAH. IT IS IMPORTANT AND THAT IMAGE JUST SAYS, SO MUCH THAT WE HAVE IN OUR MINDS.
IMAGE JUST SAYS, SO MUCH THAT WE HAVE IN OUR MINDS. WHAT A JUDGE.
THAT WE HAVE IN OUR MINDS. WHAT A JUDGE. WHERE‘S IN
WHAT A JUDGE. WHERE‘S IN WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE, WHAT?
WHERE‘S IN WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE, WHAT? WE
WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE, WHAT? WE DON‘T TAKE.
WE DON‘T TAKE. WE DON‘T TAKE INTO
DON‘T TAKE. WE DON‘T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT SOMETIMES
WE DON‘T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT SOMETIMES THAT‘S
CONSIDERATION THAT SOMETIMES THAT‘S RACIALIZED AND THAT‘S
THAT‘S RACIALIZED AND THAT‘S GENDERED. THAT. IT‘S NOT JUST
RACIALIZED AND THAT‘S GENDERED. THAT. IT‘S NOT JUST THE BLACK ROBE AND THE GAVEL
GENDERED. THAT. IT‘S NOT JUST THE BLACK ROBE AND THE GAVEL THAT
THE BLACK ROBE AND THE GAVEL THAT OFTENTIMES PEOPLE WILL IMAGINE
THAT OFTENTIMES PEOPLE WILL IMAGINE SOMEONE WHITE OR THEY‘LL
OFTENTIMES PEOPLE WILL IMAGINE SOMEONE WHITE OR THEY‘LL IMAGINE A MAN OF THEY‘LL,
SOMEONE WHITE OR THEY‘LL IMAGINE A MAN OF THEY‘LL, IMAGINE AN OLDER WHITE MAN OR
IMAGINE A MAN OF THEY‘LL, IMAGINE AN OLDER WHITE MAN OR SOMETHING. SO IT‘S REALLY
IMAGINE AN OLDER WHITE MAN OR SOMETHING. SO IT‘S REALLY PIVOTAL PIVOTAL THAT
SOMETHING. SO IT‘S REALLY PIVOTAL PIVOTAL THAT OTHER BODIES OCCUPY THAT
PIVOTAL PIVOTAL THAT OTHER BODIES OCCUPY THAT SPACE. THAT DOESN‘T MEAN THAT
OTHER BODIES OCCUPY THAT SPACE. THAT DOESN‘T MEAN THAT THE WORLD IS GONE, BUT SOME
SPACE. THAT DOESN‘T MEAN THAT THE WORLD IS GONE, BUT SOME OF THAT OTHER BAGGAGE THAT
THE WORLD IS GONE, BUT SOME OF THAT OTHER BAGGAGE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT IMAGERY
OF THAT OTHER BAGGAGE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT IMAGERY THAT‘S HIGHLY RACIALIZED.
GOES ALONG WITH THAT IMAGERY THAT‘S HIGHLY RACIALIZED. THAT‘S HIGHLY GENDERED
THAT‘S HIGHLY RACIALIZED. THAT‘S HIGHLY GENDERED THOSE THINGS.
I MEAN, IN THE IDEAL WORLD.
I MEAN, IN THE IDEAL WORLD. I WISH WE DIDN‘T HAVE TO TALK
I MEAN, IN THE IDEAL WORLD. I WISH WE DIDN‘T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS EVEN THOUGH I LOVE
I WISH WE DIDN‘T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS EVEN THOUGH I LOVE TALKING ABOUT NATURAL HAIR. I
ABOUT THIS EVEN THOUGH I LOVE TALKING ABOUT NATURAL HAIR. I WISH WE DIDN‘T HAVE TO SAY,
TALKING ABOUT NATURAL HAIR. I WISH WE DIDN‘T HAVE TO SAY, LIKE WE‘RE
WISH WE DIDN‘T HAVE TO SAY, LIKE WE‘RE NORMALIZING THE WAY YOUR HAIR
LIKE WE‘RE NORMALIZING THE WAY YOUR HAIR GROWS OUT OF YOUR HEAD
NORMALIZING THE WAY YOUR HAIR GROWS OUT OF YOUR HEAD NATURALLY.
GROWS OUT OF YOUR HEAD NATURALLY. LIKE
NATURALLY. LIKE WHY ARE WE WHY DO WE NEED TO
LIKE WHY ARE WE WHY DO WE NEED TO NORMALIZE THE WAY. MY HAIR
WHY ARE WE WHY DO WE NEED TO NORMALIZE THE WAY. MY HAIR GROWS? THAT‘S SILLY,
NORMALIZE THE WAY. MY HAIR GROWS? THAT‘S SILLY, BUT DO YOU THINK WE‘RE
GROWS? THAT‘S SILLY, BUT DO YOU THINK WE‘RE ACTUALLY GOING TO GET TO A
BUT DO YOU THINK WE‘RE ACTUALLY GOING TO GET TO A POINT THROUGH PROGRESS LIKE
ACTUALLY GOING TO GET TO A POINT THROUGH PROGRESS LIKE THIS,
POINT THROUGH PROGRESS LIKE THIS, WHERE WOMEN COULD JUST WEAR
THIS, WHERE WOMEN COULD JUST WEAR THEIR HAIR, HOW THEY WANT AND
WHERE WOMEN COULD JUST WEAR THEIR HAIR, HOW THEY WANT AND NOBODY SAYS ANYTHING.
THEIR HAIR, HOW THEY WANT AND NOBODY SAYS ANYTHING. UM, I DO THINK WE‘RE MOVING
NOBODY SAYS ANYTHING. UM, I DO THINK WE‘RE MOVING TOWARD THAT,
UM, I DO THINK WE‘RE MOVING TOWARD THAT, ESPECIALLY WHAT THE CROWN ACT
TOWARD THAT, ESPECIALLY WHAT THE CROWN ACT AND THAT LEGISLATION
ESPECIALLY WHAT THE CROWN ACT AND THAT LEGISLATION THAT FIRST. THERE HAS TO BE
AND THAT LEGISLATION THAT FIRST. THERE HAS TO BE SOME
THAT FIRST. THERE HAS TO BE SOME ACKNOWLEDGEMENT. THAT THERE IS
SOME ACKNOWLEDGEMENT. THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE THAT THERE HAS BEEN
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT. THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE THAT THERE HAS BEEN AN ISSUE THAT RACISM ISN‘T
AN ISSUE THAT THERE HAS BEEN AN ISSUE THAT RACISM ISN‘T JUST ABOUT YOUR SKIN TONE
AN ISSUE THAT RACISM ISN‘T JUST ABOUT YOUR SKIN TONE THAT IT‘S ALSO ABOUT TEXTURE
JUST ABOUT YOUR SKIN TONE THAT IT‘S ALSO ABOUT TEXTURE IS.
THAT IT‘S ALSO ABOUT TEXTURE IS. MMM. YOU‘RE THE, THE TEXTURE
IS. MMM. YOU‘RE THE, THE TEXTURE OF YOUR HAIR, THE STYLE OF
MMM. YOU‘RE THE, THE TEXTURE OF YOUR HAIR, THE STYLE OF YOUR HAIR, YOUR FACIAL
OF YOUR HAIR, THE STYLE OF YOUR HAIR, YOUR FACIAL FEATURES. WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS
YOUR HAIR, YOUR FACIAL FEATURES. WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS MORE COMPLEX
FEATURES. WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS MORE COMPLEX NUANCED, UNDERSTANDING OF
MORE COMPLEX NUANCED, UNDERSTANDING OF RACISM BEFORE WE CAN GET TO
NUANCED, UNDERSTANDING OF RACISM BEFORE WE CAN GET TO THAT PLACE.
RACISM BEFORE WE CAN GET TO THAT PLACE. WHERE WE DON‘T HAVE TO HAVE
THAT PLACE. WHERE WE DON‘T HAVE TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS.
PROFESSOR ROBIN DAUGHTRY, I
PROFESSOR ROBIN DAUGHTRY, I APPRECIATE THE NUANCE AND
PROFESSOR ROBIN DAUGHTRY, I APPRECIATE THE NUANCE AND EXPERTISE YOU BROUGHT TO THIS
APPRECIATE THE NUANCE AND EXPERTISE YOU BROUGHT TO THIS CONVERSATION.
EXPERTISE YOU BROUGHT TO THIS CONVERSATION. IT‘S SO COOL TO SEE THIS AND
CONVERSATION. IT‘S SO COOL TO SEE THIS AND I‘M SO GLAD TO HAVE YOU ON
IT‘S SO COOL TO SEE THIS AND I‘M SO GLAD TO HAVE YOU ON THIS HISTORIC DAY.
I‘M SO GLAD TO HAVE YOU ON THIS HISTORIC DAY. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.