THE BORDER ITSELF.
>> Dana: PETER DOOCY, THANK YOU
SO MUCH.
>> Bill: THIS IS EITHER GOING TO
GO TO 51 OR IT WILL STAY WHERE
IT IS AND REPUBLICANS HAVE A
SHOT TODAY TO GO TO 50, WHICH
WOULD BE THE SAME PLACE WE WERE
FOUR WEEKS AGO TODAY GOING INTO
THE MID-TERMS.
THE GEORGIA MAP HERE IS WHERE
YOU CAN WATCH TONIGHT.
TAKE IT BACK A MONTH AGO.
THIS WAS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
WARNOCK AND WALKER, 36,000.
THE GOVERNOR’S RACE THE SAME
DAY, SAME TIME, YOU HAD BRIAN
KEMP A WINNER OVER STACEY ABRAMS
BY ALMOST 300,000 VOTES.
WALKER HAS TO DRIVE THAT NUMBER
UP IF HE WANTS TO WIN THE SENATE
RACE AGAINST WARNOCK.
WHERE DOES HE DO IT?
A LOT OF RED COUNTIES IN THE
NORTH.
CHEROKEE COUNTY, FORSYTHE COUNTY
AND HALL COUNTY TO THE EAST.
YOU HAVE TO RUN UP THAT NUMBER.
CONVERSELY FOR WARNOCK, A COUPLE
COUNTIES DOWN HERE SOUTH OF
ATLANTA IN FULTON AND HENRY
COUNTY WATCHING THAT TO SEE IF
HE CAN GET THE NUMBER HIGHER.
CLAYTON COUNTY WHERE HE CAN BE
VERY STRONG IN A RACE LIKE THIS.
THE BIG ONE HERE, WALKER WILL DO
REAL WELL IN THE RURAL RED
COUNTIES.
THE METRO AREA OF ATLANTA AND
FULTON COUNTY IS THE BIG ONE.
10% OF THE ENTIRE POPULATION IN
THE STATE LIVING IN FULTON
COUNTY.
WE’LL WATCH IT TONIGHT.
MARK PENN IS WITH US, FORMER
CLINTON POLLSTER AND FOX NEWS
CONTRIBUTOR.
HERE WE GO AGAIN.
IT IS ABOUT GEORGIA.
HOW DO YOU SEE IT TODAY WITH THE
POLLS OPEN AT THIS HOUR?
>> WELL, THIS HAS BEEN AN
INCREDIBLE RACE.
I THINK $4 HUNDRED MILLION HAS
BEEN SPENT IN THIS RACE.
I IMAGINE EVERY RESIDENT OF
GEORGIA KNOWS EVERYTHING YOU CAN
IMAGINE.
I THINK THE STRATEGY HERE HAS
BEEN ESSENTIALLY TO MAKE
HERSCHEL WALKER THE ISSUE.
KEEP BIDEN OUT OF IT.
KEEP NATIONAL POLITICS OUT OF
IT.
DEPICT HIM AS UNFIT.
YOU HAVE A TRUMP-ENDORSED
CANDIDATE RUNNING BEHIND IN
MAIL-IN BALLOTS AND IT MEANS THE
REPUBLICANS NEED A REALLY
EXCELLENT TURNOUT ON ELECTION
DAY HERE AND PUSHED THEMSELVES
INTO THE CORNER ONCE AGAIN IN
ORDER TO TAKE THIS SEAT.
THAT’S THEIR BIGGEST PROBLEM.
OVERCOMING MAIL-IN BALLOTS.
>> Dana: A MAP OF WHERE
PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS GONE
RECENTLY.
NOWHERE CLOSE TO GEORGIA.
NEITHER HAS PRESIDENT TRUMP GONE
TO GEORGIA.
SO YOU HAVE GOVERNOR KEMP THERE
TRYING VERY HARD TO HELP BRING
HERSCHEL WALKER A WIN.
BUT PRESIDENT OBAMA WENT DOWN
FOR WARNOCK SO YOU DID HAVE SOME
HEAVY HITTERS THERE BUT THE TWO
POSSIBLE CANDIDATES FOR 2024
STEERED CLEAR.
>> WELL, I THINK THEY ARE TRYING
TO ACTUALLY NOT NATIONALIZE IT,
NOT MAKE IT ABOUT TRUMP VERSUS
BIDEN.
WE KNOW EVEN TRUMP VERSUS BIDEN
CAME OUT SLIGHTLY FOR BIDEN SO
AT THE END OF THE DAY IT IS
GOING TO BE A CLOSE RACE BUT I
DO THINK THAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE
HAD MORE MONEY, THEY HAVE A
BETTER ORGANIZATION ON THE
MAIL-IN BALLOTS.
IT SEEMS ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE
ONLY RON DESANTIS HAS HAD A MAIL
BALLOT ORGANIZATION THAT YOU
REALLY NEED TO NEUTRALIZE
THINGS.
A VOTE THAT’S A MAIL-IN BALLOT
IS A VOTE 100%.
A VOTE ON ELECTION DAY IS MAYBE
MY KID IS SICK, MAYBE IT’S A
LITTLE RAINY, RIGHT?
.9 OF A VOTE.
YOU NEED SO MANY MORE VOTES TO
RELY ON THAT STRATEGY.
IT IS TIME THE REPUBLICANS
FIGURE OUT IF THEY LOSE IT WILL
BE BECAUSE OF THE FAILURE TO
NEUTRALIZE MAIL-IN BALLOTS.
IF THEY WIN THEY’LL HAVE MORE
MOMENTUM THAN I WOULD HAVE
EXPECTED.
>> Bill: JOE BIDEN SAID HE WOULD
GO HOME WITH HIS FAMILY AT
THANKSGIVING AND THINK ABOUT A
SECOND RUN OR NOT.
THAT DECISION KIND OF HAS BEEN
MADE PERHAPS, RON KLAIN WAS
ASKED THIS QUESTION.
WATCH WHAT HE SAID.
>> IT’S HIS INTENTION TO RUN.
TALK TO HIS FAMILY AND MAKE THE
DECISION ABOUT THAT.
I HEAR FROM A LOT OF DEMOCRATS
ACROSS THE COUNTRY THEY WANT HIM
TO RUN.
I EXPECT SHORTLY AFTER THE
HOLIDAYS, BUT I EXPECT THE
DECISION WILL BE TO DO IT.
>> Bill: THERE IT IS AT THE END.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT, MARK?
>> WELL, IT IS THE CHIEF OF
STAFF’S JOB NOT TO MAKE NEWS ON
THIS SUBJECT SO IF RON KLAIN HAD
ANSWERED IN ANY OTHER WAY HE
WOULD HAVE SET OFF LIKE 100
NEWSPAPERS RIGHT THERE.
SO I PAID NO ATTENTION TO
WHATEVER ANYONE SAYS ABOUT
WHETHER THEY’RE RUNNING OR NOT.
MOST CANDIDATES WHO BECAME
PRESIDENT SAID THEY WEREN’T
RUNNING BEFORE THEY RAN.
TRUE OF BARACK OBAMA AND BILL
CLINTON.
I THINK THE PRESIDENT NEEDS TO
KEEP THE FICTION HE IS RUNNING
AS LONG AS POSSIBLE EVEN IF HE
IS NOT RUNNING, HE DOESN’T WANT
TO BECOME A LAME DUCK TOO EARLY.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, HE IS A
LITTLE LESS LIKE LE AT THE END
OF THE DAY RUN.
I THINK THE HUNTER BIDEN
INVESTIGATION IS GOING TO BE A
REAL INVESTIGATION.
AND I THINK THAT HIS NUMBERS ARE
SO WEAK THAT HIM HAVING TO BE
THE CANDIDATE, AS YOU SAY, HE IS
NOT IN GEORGIA TODAY.
IF YOU RUN A PRESIDENTIAL RACE,
HE WILL HAVE TO BE IN GEORGIA.
AND HE WON’T BE ABLE TO GET AWAY
WITH THAT.
HIS NUMBERS ARE REALLY WEAK AND
MOST DEMOCRATS REALLY DON’T HAVE
HIM AS THEIR NUMBER ONE PICK FOR
THE NOMINEE.
I THINK HE HAS TO KEEP THIS GAME
GOING MAYBE ANOTHER SIX MONTHS.
I DON’T BELIEVE AT THE END OF
THE DAY HE WILL BE THE
DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE.
>> Bill: LOW 40s IN GEORGIA.