IS CONSOLIDATING POWER MORE >>> I DON’T KNOW ABOUT YOU,
PETE, BUT I THOUGHT I WOULD BE
ON THE TRAIL CAMPAIGNING FOR JOE
RIGHT NOW IN MICHIGAN OR
WISCONSIN OR PENNSYLVANIA.
SO TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU AND I
APPEAL TO FOLKS WHO NEED TO GET
ONE OVER TO JOE, THEN WE NEED TO
WORK ON IT.
>> BECAUSE PEOPLE NEED TO SEE
THE WORLD IS ON THE SAME TEAM.
IT IS NOT THAT WE ABANDONED THE
DIFFERENT IDEAS THAT MAKE US
DIFFERENT FROM EACH OTHER, BUT
IT IS LIKE THIS COMPARED TO THIS
GULF BETWEEN US AND WHAT IS
GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
>> FORMER 2020 DEMOCRATIC
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES ANDREW
YANG AND PETE BUTTIGIEG ARE
GARNERING SUPPORT FOR FORMER
VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN DURING
THIS ESPECIALLY DIFFICULT
CAMPAIGN SEASON.
CAMPAIGN SEASON. JOINING US NOW, FORMER CHIEF OF
STAFF TO THE D TRIPLE C AND FROM
HILLARY CLINTON’S 2016
PRESIDENTIAL CAME, ADRIAN ELROD
AND FROM CAMPAIGNS BY PETE
BUTTIGIEG, ANDREW CUOMO AND
BARACK OBAMA, LIZ SMITH JOINS
US.
US. AND LIZ, THE LATEST OPINION
PIECE IN "THE NEW YORK TIMES" IS
ENTITLED IT HOW JOE BIDEN CAN
DEFEAT
DEFEAT DEFEAT TRUMP FROM HIS BASEMENT
AND IN IT YOU WRITE, ULTIMATELY
FOR BIDEN TO BE VICTORIOUS, HE’S
GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE HEAVY
WEIGHT CHAMPION OF GENERATING
MEDIA ATTENTION, MR. TRUMP.
HE SHOULD BE WILLING TO GO
EVERYWHERE AS TRUMP WAS IN 2016.
TRUMP’S-FREE WHEELING MOMENTS
AND APPEARANCES THAT REACH THE
BROADER AUDIENCE HAVE EXPOSED
HIM AS UNFIT LIKE HIS RECENT
SUGGESTION TO TREAT COVID-19
WITH DISINFECTANT.
WITH DISINFECTANT. IF THE PUBLIC CONTINUES TO LOSE
CONFIDENCE IN HIS MANAGEMENT OF
THE PANDEMIC, IT IS LIKELY THAT
HE’LL REVERT EVEN MORE TO
PREDICTABLE AND SMALL PARTISAN
CORNERS.
CORNERS. BY GOING EVERYWHERE, BIDEN WILL
MEET VOTERS WHERE THEY ARE, ON
THEIR TERMS, BEING ABLE TO DO SO
WITHOUT LEAVING HIS MAKESHIFT
HOME STUDIO WHICH GIVES HIM A
TREMENDOUS ADVANTAGE.
TREMENDOUS ADVANTAGE. IT IS ONLY FITTING THAT A RETURN
TO NORMALCY WOULD BE ACHIEVED
THROUGH THE MOST ABNORMAL
CIRCUMSTANCES IN RECENT CAMPAIGN
HISTORY.
HISTORY. LIZ, THE BASEMENT BUNKER MAY BE
THE BEST THING FOR JOE BIDEN IN
THE AGE OF CORONAVIRUS.
>> YEAH, SO I KNOW THAT THAT IS
SORT OF GOES AGAINST WHAT THE
CONVENTIONAL WISDOM IS, THAT
SOMEHOW HE’S AT A DISADVANTAGE,
BUT THINK ABOUT IT.
THE WAY THAT WE RUN MODERN
PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS IS REALLY
INEFFICIENT.
INEFFICIENT. IT IS REALLY INEXPENSIVE.
IT IS TIME INTENSIVE.
AND IT IS REALLY EXHAUSTING.
SO IT IS NOT GREAT IF YOU ARE A
77-YEAR-OLD CANDIDATE.
77-YEAR-OLD CANDIDATE. AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN TO REALLY
INNOVATE AND CHANGE THE WAY THAT
WE CAMPAIGN.
WE CAMPAIGN. YOU KNOW, HE DOES NOT NEED TO BE
SPENDING HOURS AND HOURS A DAY
HOPPING ON A PLANE, FLYING
AROUND TO MADISON, MILWAUKEE,
WISCONSIN, HE COULD BE BEAMING
INTO THE BIG TV SHOWS, CALLING
INTO THE BIG RADIO SHOWS THERE,
AND ACHIEVING THE SAME RESULTS.
AND I THINK THAT THIS IS JUST A
GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO RETHINK AND
ALSO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TO
RETHINK THE WAY WE DO MODERN
CAMPAIGNS AND SAYING MAYBE A LOT
OF THE WAYS WE HAVE BEEN DOING
THIS HAVE BEEN FAIRLY
INEFFICIENT AND THERE IS A WAY
FOR JOE BIDEN EVEN THOUGH HE
DOES NOT HAVE THE BULLY PULPIT
OF THE PRESIDENCY, TO COMPETE
WITH DONALD TRUMP AND BE OMNI
PRESENT IF HE MAXIMIZES HIS
BASEMENT STUDIO AND HIS
SURROGATES LIKE PETE BUTTIGIEG
AND ANDREW YANG.
>> ADRIENNE ELROD, I COULDN’T
AGREE WITH LIZ MORE.
SEEING BIDEN ON THE CAMPAIGN
TRAIL, KNOWING HIM, THE ONE
THING THAT I THINK THAT IS
POSSIBLY FRUSTRATING FOR
CAMPAIGN AIDES IS THAT HE LOVES
CONNECTING WITH PEOPLE.
AND IN FACT THAT HAS GOTTEN HIM
INTO TROUBLE, INNOCENTLY
CONNECTING WITH PEOPLE WANTING
TO TALK TO THEM, WANTING TO HEAR
WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY, TAKING
THE MOMENT TO BE FULLY
EMPATHETIC TO SOMEONE MAYBE WHO
HAS LOST SOMEONE BUT THESE WERE
MOMENTS ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL
THAT WERE BEAUTIFUL IN MANY
WAYS.
WAYS. BUT THEY SUCKED HIS TIME AND HIS
ENERGY.
ENERGY. AND I THINK IT CONCERNED PEOPLE
WHO CARED ABOUT THE CAMPAIGN
THAT THEY WANTED HIM TO STAY
FOCUSED AND WHAT THIS BASEMENT
SITUATION HAS DONE HAS ALLOWED
JOE BIDEN TO SHOW A STEADY VOICE
WITHOUT ANY DISTRACTIONS OR ANY
WAYS THAT HE COULD EXHAUST
HIMSELF OR BE SEEN AS LESS
SERIOUS.
SERIOUS. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. YEAH, THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT,
MIKA.
MIKA. WHEN YOU GOING OUT ON THE
CAMPAIGN TRAIL AS A CANDIDATE,
PRESSING THE FLASHES AS WE CALL
IT, HAVING CONVERSATIONS
FACE-TO-FACE WITH VOTERS, TO THE
ONE HAND THAT YOU JUST
MENTIONED, YOU GET TO REALLY
SHOW YOUR STRENGTH IN TERMS OF
YOUR ABILITY TO CONNECT, YOUR
ABILITY TO BE EMPATHETIC, THINGS
THAT JOE BIDEN IS KNOWN FOR AND
THINGS THAT JOE BIDEN HAS
ATTRACTED A LOT OF VOTERS AND
SUPPORT BECAUSE OF BUT THERE IS
ALWAYS RISK.
ALWAYS RISK. YOU HAVE A PRESS POOL THAT
TRAVELS EVERYWHERE WITH YOU.
WE CALL IT THE PRESS SCRUM.
EVERY TIME YOU GO TO AN EVENT
OFTENTIMES THEY’LL SWARM AROUND
YOU AND START ASKING ALL KINDS
OF QUESTIONS AND MAYBE YOU’RE
PREPARED FOR THEM, MAYBE YOU’RE
NOT.
NOT. SO BY BEING AT HOME YOU ARE
MITIGATING THE RISK RIGHT NOW.
I THINK LIZ’S PIECE IS SO SMART.
BECAUSE SHE REALLY TALKS A LOT
ABOUT HOW THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN CAN
CONTINUE FOR EXAMPLE TO USE
SURROGATES TO THEIR ADVANTAGE.
AND YOU’RE ALSO SAVING A LOT OF
MONEY RIGHT NOW.
NOT HAVING TO TRAVEL, NOT HAVING
TO FLY A HUGE GROUP OF STAFFERS
ON EITHER A PRIVATE OR
COMMERCIAL PLANE.
COMMERCIAL PLANE. IT TAKES A LOT OF MONEY AND
ENERGY TO DO THOSE EVENTS EVERY
SINGLE DAY ON THE CAMPAIGN
TRAIL.
TRAIL. SO WHAT JOE BIDEN IS DOING
EFFECTIVELY IS, NUMBER ONE, IS
HE USING SURROGATES, DOING AT
LEAST 20, 25 SURROGATE EVENTS
EVERY WEEK, BEAMING
SUPER-SURROGATES IS WHAT WE
CALLED THEM ON THE CAMPAIGN,
LIKE ANDREW YANG AND PETE
BUTTIGIEG INTO THE HOMES OF
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ACROSS THE
COUNTRY AND USING THIS TIME TO
CONNECT WITH LOCAL MEDIA.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT DOESN’T
ALWAYS DRIVE HEADLINES
NATIONALLY BUT HE’S DOING
INTERVIEWS WITH LOCAL PRESS IN
THE KEY BATTLEGROUND STATES.
SO USING THE TIME EFFECTIVELY.
BUT LIKE ANY CANDIDATE HE I’M
SURE WANTS TO GET UNDER THE
CAMPAIGN.
CAMPAIGN. >> AND ANOTHER WAY TO SHOW A
STEADY HAND IS PUTTING HIMSELF
ON THE REPORT WITH OP-ED PIECES.
THERE WAS THE ONE FOR USA TODAY
IN JANUARY WHICH CORRECTLY
PREDICTED AND WARNED ABOUT THIS
PANDEMIC COMING.
PANDEMIC COMING. AND JOE BIDEN IS OUT WITH A NEW
OP-ED THIS MORNING IN "THE
WASHINGTON POST" ENTITLED "HOW
THE WHITE HOUSE CORONAVIRUS
RESPONSE PRESENTS US WITH A
FALSE CHOICE", IN WHICH HE
WRITES IN PART, THE CORONAVIRUS
TODAY HAS TAKEN THE LIVES OF
MORE THAN 79,000 AMERICANS.
ONE OF EVERY FIVE U.S. WORKERS
HAS FILED FOR UNEMPLOYMENT WITH
THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE NOW THE
HIGHEST SINCE THE GREAT
DEPRESSION.
DEPRESSION. IT IS AN EXTRAORDINARY MOMENT,
THE KIND THAT BEGS FOR URGENT,
STEADY, AND EMPATHETIC AND
UNIFYING LEADERSHIP BUT INSTEAD
OF UNIFYING THE COUNTRY TO
ACCELERATE OUR PUBLIC HEALTH
RESPONSE AND GET ECONOMIC RELIEF
TO THOSE WHO NEED IT, PRESIDENT
TRUMP IS REVERTING TO A FAMILIAR
STRATEGY OF DEFLECTING BLAME AND
DIVIDING AMERICANS.
DIVIDING AMERICANS. HIS GOAL IS AS OBVIOUS AS IT IS
CRAVEN.
CRAVEN. HE HOPES TO SPLIT THE COUNTRY
INTO DUELLING CAMPS, CASTING
DEMOCRATS AS DOOM SAYERS HOPING
TO KEEP AMERICA GROUNDS AND
REPUBLICANS AS FREEDOM FIGHTERS
TRYING TO LIBERATE THE ECONOMY.
IT IS A CHILDISH TACTIC AND A
FALSE CHOICE THAT NONE OF US
SHOULD FALL FOR.
JONATHAN LEMIRE.
JONATHAN LEMIRE. >> THERE IS NO QUESTION THE
FORMER VICE PRESIDENT IS TRYING
TO STRESS THE NEED TO BALANCE
THE TESTING REQUIRED TO RESTART
THE ECONOMY WHILE THE WHITE
HOUSE AT THIS MOMENT SEEMS FAR
MORE FOCUSED ON JUST THE
ECONOMIC ASPECT OF THIS.
LIZ, GOOD TO SEE YOU.
QUESTION FOR YOU, SO JOE AND I
HAVE BEEN JOKING THAT BIDEN’S
BASEMENT IS AKIN TO WILLIAM
McKINLEY’S FRONT PORCH CAMPAIGN,
WHERE HE DID NOT POTENTIALLY GO
OUT AND SEEK GLAD HANDING WITH
VOTERS AND IT WASN’T BECAUSE OF
A PANDEMIC BUT THERE ARE MAJOR
POLITICAL EVENTS ON THE CALENDAR
THAT ARE GOING TO NEED TO BE
ADDRESSED, I’M TALKING ABOUT THE
CONVENTION.
CONVENTION. DEMOCRATS HAVE MOVED FROM JULY
TO AUGUST.
TO AUGUST. WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND
DEMOCRATS DO FOR THOSE FOUR DAYS
WHICH ARE, OF COURSE, BROADCAST
IN PRIME TIME, A HUGE
OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT WITH
VOTERS BECAUSE PRESIDENT TRUMP
AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE, AT
LEAST FOR NOW, PLANNING TO STILL
HAVE IN-PERSON EVENTS IN
CHARLOTTE, MAYBE SCALED DOWN BUT
WE WANT TO HAVE SOME SORT OF
CONVENTION.
CONVENTION. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY DEMOCRATS
SHOULD DO?
SHOULD DO? >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD
SAY THE REPUBLICANS ARE SAYING
THAT THEY WILL HAVE IT BUT
PUBLIC HEALTH GUIDELINES WILL
ULTIMATELY DICTATE WHAT THE
PARTIES DO.
PARTIES DO. AND EVEN THOUGH THE DEMOCRATIC
LEADERSHIP HASN’T SAID WE’RE
GOING TO GO TO A VIRTUAL
CONVENTION, LEAPT’S BE REAL,
THAT IS THE DIRECTION IN WHICH
WE ARE HEADED.
IF YOU LOOK ACROSS DIFFERENT
FIELDS, WE SEE CORPORATE
CONVENTIONS INTO 2021 BEING
CANCELED.
CANCELED. SO THE IDEA THAT WE’RE GOING TO
BE HOLDING AN IN-PERSON
CONVENTION WITH THOUSANDS OF
PEOPLE AND IN AUGUST OF 2020 IS
SIMPLY DELUSIONAL.
SIMPLY DELUSIONAL. HOWEVER, I DO THINK THAT
DEMOCRATS, AGAIN, CAN USE THIS
AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO INNOVATE.
THE OTHER DAY I HEARD NANCY
PELOSI TALKING ABOUT HOW WE
NEEDED TO HAVE AN IN-PERSON
CONVENTION BECAUSE IT REMINDED
HER OF HOW EXCITED SHE WAS IN
1960 SEEING JOHN F. KENNEDY AT
THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION.
WELL, GUESS WHAT?
IT’S 2020.
IT’S 2020. IT IS NOT 1960.
WE NEED TO BE DOING THINGS
DIFFERENTLY.
DIFFERENTLY. AND TO ME AS SOMEONE WHO HAS
BEEN TO MANY OF THE CONVENTIONS,
I FEEL LIKE PARTY CONVENTIONS
ARE THE TV EQUIVALENT OF AMBIEN,
THEY PUT PEOPLE TO SLEEP.
AND WE DO NOT NEED HOURS AND
HOURS OF TALKING POINTS DRIVEN
PRIME TIME SPEECHING ANY MORE.
SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY I
THINK FOR DEMOCRATS TO CALL ON
THE CREATIVE ELEMENTS OF OUR
PARTY, CALL ON OUR HOLLYWOOD
SUPPORTERS, CALL ON OUR CREATIVE
GRASS ROOT SUPPORTERS TO CREATE
DYNAMIC CONTENT.
DYNAMIC CONTENT. WE DON’T NEED TO SEE SPEECH
AFTER SPEECH.
AFTER SPEECH. WE COULD SEE MUSICAL
PERFORMANCES, WE COULD SEE
ENTERTAINMENT SKITS, WE COULD
SEE DISCUSSIONS AND INTERVIEWS,
IN ADDITION TO JUST SPEECH AFTER
SPEECH BEHIND A PODIUM.
AND I THINK THAT THIS IS A
MOMENT WHERE WE SHOULD ME
CALLING THE BEST AND THE
BRIGHTEST, THE MOST CREATIVE
MINDS IN OUR PARTY TOGETHER TO
HELP US FAST FORWARD TO 2020 AND
SORT OF GET OUT OF THE OLD WAY
OF DOING THINGS.
>> LET’S BRING INTO THIS
CONVERSATION LONG TIME MEDIA
EXECUTIVE AND CNBC FOUNDER AND
CONTRIBUTOR TOM ROGERS FROM NEWS
WEEK, AND TOM’S LATEST COLUMN
FOR NEWS WEEK ARGUES THAT WORDS
MATTER AND JOE BIDEN NEEDS TO
USE HIS BETTER.
SO, TOM, EXPLAIN THE CHALLENGE
YOU SEE JOE BIDEN COULD BE
FACING BY NOT DOING A LOT OF
OFF-THE-CUFF WORK AS MUCH.
>> WELL, TRUMP HAS BEEN
DOMINATING THE MEDIA AS WE KNOW
AND BIDEN HAS NOT BEEN IN THE
SPOTLIGHT.
SPOTLIGHT. BUT THAT IS GOING TO SHIFT.
AND WHEN IT SHIFTS, BIDEN NEEDS
TO PERFORM.
TO PERFORM. AND WITH ALL OF THE TALK ABOUT
HOW A VIRTUAL CAMPAIGN COULD BE
RUN, VERSUS A TRADITIONAL
CAMPAIGN AND SOME OF THE
SUGGESTIONS THAT ADRIENNE AND
LIZ HAVE MADE, THE BOTTOM LINE
IS THE CANDIDATE NEEDS TO
ARTICULATE A CLEAR AND
CONVINCING MESSAGE AND
PARTICULARLY WHETHER IT COMES TO
THE PANDEMIC, WHAT MY PIECE IS
IT THAT IS NOT THERE YET.
AND IT PAINS ME TO SAY THIS, BUT
HIS PERFORMANCE IN COMING ONE A
COMPELLING NARRATIVE AND A
PASSIONATE STORYLINE THAT REALLY
IS READY FOR PRIME TIME ELECTION
SEASON WHEN IT COMES TO TALKING
ABOUT THE LEGACY OF DONALD
TRUMP, OF MASS ECONOMIC
COLLAPSE, HE’S JUST NOT THERE
YET.
YET. HIS PERFORMANCES HAVE BEEN VERY
UNSATISFYING AND BASICALLY HE’S
BEEN GETTING SOFT CALL
INTERVIEWS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF
YOURS, MIKA, ON THE SEXUAL
HARASSMENT ISSUES.
HARASSMENT ISSUES. HE’S HAD PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES
TO ARTICULATE THAT MESSAGE AND I
THE CAMPAIGN NEEDS TO FIGURE OUT
HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT HE IS
REALLY IN A POSITION TO DISCUSS
THE -- WHAT WILL BE THE DEFINING
ISSUE OF THIS ELECTION IN A MUCH
MORE COMPELLING WAY THAN HE’S
BEEN ABLE TO DO IT TO DATE.
>> ADRIENNE, YUOUR THOUGHTS, I
GUESS TOM IS TALKING ABOUT
HAVING A COMMANDING AUTHORITY
OVER THE SITUATION.
IS HE ABLE TO DO THAT?
>> YEAH, I ACTUALLY AM GOING TO
SLIGHTLY DISAGREE WITH TOM HERE.
I THINK JOE BIDEN HAS DONE A
GREAT JOB SO FAR REALLY DRAWING
A CONTRAST WITH DONALD TRUMP IN
THE WAY HE, JOE BIDEN, WOULD
GOVERN IF HE WAS PRESIDENT.
THE TACTIC HIS CAMPAIGN TOOK
LAST WEEK WHICH I THINK THEY
WILL CONTINUE TO CAPITALIZE ON
IS CRONYISM.
IS CRONYISM. AND IN PART HOW DONALD TRUMP’S
ADMINISTRATION HAS CHOSEN TO
GIVE SOME OF THE BEST FRIENDS IN
CORPORATE AMERICA BIG PAYCHECKS
IN LIGHT OF THE CORONAVIRUS
PANDEMIC AS OPPOSED TO SMALLER
BUSINESSES AND PEOPLE WHO TRULY
NEED THAT MONEY IN ORDER TO STAY
IN BUSINESS.
IN BUSINESS. EVERY SINGLE DAY WE LOOK AT THE
HEADLINES AND WE KNOW THAT
DONALD TRUMP IS MISMANAGING THIS
CRISIS.
CRISIS. BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT
AREN’T ALWAYS DRIVING THE
HEADLINES WHEN HE IS IS FAVORING
HIS FRIENDS AND CORPORATE
AMERICA AND IT IS IMPORTANT THAT
THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN IS DRAWING
THAT CONTRAST AND YOU WILL GET
TO SEE MORE OF THAT BECAUSE
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT DRIVE
THE DECISIONS FROM THE
INDEPENDENT AND SWING VOTERS, IS
THIS PRESIDENT ON MY SIDE OR ON
THE SIDE OF THE CORPORATE
AMERICA.
AMERICA. THOSE ARE THE FINER POINTS THAT
WILL HELP DECIDE THIS ELECTION.
AND THEY’RE DRIVING A MESSAGE
THAT IS KALT-- CATERING EXACTLY
THOSE VOTERS.
THOSE VOTERS. THOSE 2% OR 3% THEY HAVE TO
SIPHON OFF FROM 2016 AND PUT
BACK IN THEIR CORNER AND USE TO
WIN IN 2020.
>> SO TOM, WHAT IS YOUR BIGGEST
CONCERN, IS IT LIKE A DEBATE
SITUATION?
SITUATION? >> DEBATE SITUATIONS ARE TOUGH
BUT MEASURING HIM IN WHAT HAS
BEEN ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEWS AND I
SAID FOR THE MOST PART VERY
FRIENDLY AND SOFTBALL-TYPE
INTERVIEWS, JOE BIDEN IS NEVER
GOING TO BE OBAMA OR CLINTON
WHEN IT COMES TO BE AN ORDER.
BUT WHEN YOU LISTEN TO HIM ON
THE PANDEMIC, A LOT OF
DISCONNECTED PHRASES, IT DOESN’T
REALLY COME TOGETHER IN A VERY
CONVINCING MESSAGE.
CONVINCING MESSAGE. EVERY MORNING YOU GUYS PUT
TOGETHER AND CRYSTALLIZE WHAT
THAT CRITIQUE OF TRUMP IS.
IT IS NOT HARD.
AND HE CAN DO IT IN AN OP-ED.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO SOCIAL
DISTANCING AND TELEVISION AND
PRIME TIME IN THE SPOTLIGHT IN
THE CAMPAIGN, THAT ARTICULATION
IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE MUCH
CLEARER THAN IT HAS BEEN AND I
FEAR A CRISIS FOR THE CANDIDATE
IF HE CANNOT COME UP WITH A MORE
CONVINCING WAY AND A MORE
ELOQUENT WAY TO PUT OUT THERE
EXACTLY WHAT THE CRITIQUE OF
TRUMP IS DURING THIS CRISIS.
IT IS A PROBLEM.
THE CAMPAIGN SHOULD TAKE THE
NEXT THREE WEEKS OF COACHING AND
MOCK INTERVIEWS AND SIMULATIONS,
WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO TO GET
TOGETHER, I THINK IN THE WAY
HE’S GOING TO NEED TO BE
PRIMETIME.
PRIMETIME. AND IT PLAYS INTO THE TRUMP
CRITIQUE THAT HE’S BEEN AROUND
TOO LONG, HE’S CONFUSED.
IT’S VERY EASY TO DEFEAT THAT
COMING OUT STRONG WITH THE KIND
OF ARTICULATION I THINK HE’S
CAPABLE OF.
CAPABLE OF. >> LIZ SMITH, DO YOU THINK THE
ALLEGATIONS BY TARA READE AND
HOW THEY’VE PLAYED OUT HAVE
IMPACTED THE CAMPAIGN GREATLY?
>> NO, I THINK WHAT WE’VE SEEN
ACTUALLY IS THAT WHILE THEY’VE
GARNERED A LOT OF MEDIA COVERAGE
AND WE’VE SEEN BIDEN’S OPPONENTS
ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE AND ON
THE BERNIE LEFT SEIZE ON THEM
THAT HE’S HANDLED THEM PRETTY
WELL.
WELL. HE GOT OUT AHEAD OF THIS STORY
AND PEOPLE KNOW JOE BIDEN.
AND THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA,
NATIONAL MEDIA HAS LOOKED INTO
THESE ALLEGATIONS.
THESE ALLEGATIONS. FOUND, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN UNABLE
TO CORROBORATE THEM.
SO I’M CONFIDENT THAT JOE BIDEN
WILL BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THIS
MOMENT AND I’M HAPPY WITH THE
WAY HE’S HANDLED IT THUS FAR.
BUT AUSHLGS LET’S KEEP IN MIND,
MIKA, HE WENT ON YOUR SHOW AND
YOU THREW HIM A LOT OF TOUGH
QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS. WE HAVE NOT SEEN THAT
WILLINGNESS TO BE GRILLED ABOUT
THE SCORES AND SCORES OF
ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT
AND SEXUAL ABUSE AGAINST DONALD
TRUMP.
TRUMP. AND IT’S GOING TO BE A VERY,
VERY DIFFICULT CASE FOR DONALD
TRUMP TO PROSECUTE WITH THAT
SORT OF RECORD.
AND SO THIS HAS BEEN A BUMP BUT
IT’S BEEN AN IMPORTANT TEST FOR
JOE BIDEN.
JOE BIDEN. AND I THINK IT SHOWS THAT HE
WILL BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE
THINGS THAT THE RIGHT WING NOISE
MACHINE THROWS HIS WAY
THROUGHOUT THIS ELECTION.
>> LIZ SMITH, ADRAINIAN ELROD, T
ROGERS, THANKS FOR BEING ON.
>>> THERE’S NEW REPORTING THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL WITHDREW THE
CHARGES AGAINST MICHAEL FLYNN SO
THE PRESIDENT WOULDN’T NEED TO
PARDON HIS FORMER NATIONAL
SECURITY ADVISER IN AN ELECTION
YEAR.
YEAR. >>> AND BEFORE WE GO TO BREAK
TODAY, RIGHT AFTER THE SHOW,
COSMOPOLITAN’S EDITOR IN CHIEF
JESSICA PELZ JOINS ME ON KNOW
YOUR VALUES INSTAGRAM PAGE TO
DISCUSS CAREER GROWTH IN THE AGE
OF CORONAVIRUS.
OF CORONAVIRUS. HEAD TO UNDERSCORE KNOW